[CitizensTruth] Building Community-food circles-preparation now, little by little

Kris Knight welaware at merr.com
Mon Apr 21 21:27:33 EDT 2008


Might I also suggest you invest in a small colloidal silver
generator. Anyone wanting one within this group, I can get you a
wholesale one for about $65 or so, unless the cost went up a bit.
Look this up. Multiple uses for this; could easily save a life.
Adrenal support also important. B12 sublingual. What do you all
think about my coming up with a list that Hal could post? With
interest, I'd be willing to put in the time. think I already have a
list somewhere that I could find...
thanks for this info, Janice...

On Apr 21, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Janice Matthews wrote:


> Hello, Chicago comrades,

>

> I have begun this process last Fall. Have 14 hen chicks (pullets)

> about ready to head outside to the coop I'm building now, to provide

> eggs. Next is to build the shelter for my milk goats. Working to get

> the garden in now... It takes a lot of planning and patience (and

> work) but seems quite necessary now. I tell you this as hopefully an

> encouragement...

>

> Second, Kansas City has a growing Food Circle. You might check to

> see what's happening in/around Chi for that. Look for sustainability

> and/or permaculture groups in the area, who then link to other

> groups. In KC, farmers from a circle around KC participate in the

> markets, but also offer an opportunity for people to sign up for the

> produce before it becomes available, so the farmers have an idea of

> where it will be going when it's ready. Also, as you said, no one

> (hardly) grows everything, so some of these people trade with each

> other, as well.

> Example: Lawrence, where I'm near now, has the Lawrence

> Sustainability Network. It's a clearinghouse of people working on

> various things... sustainable energy, (fighing new coal plants in KS

> now), learning to get off the grid via alternative energy, food,

> healthcare/herbs, etc.

>

> I hope you'll find that there's already a network happening near

> you, to which you can just plug in, rather than having to invent the

> whole dang wheel :) I've found that these are generally incredibly

> kind and generous people for the most part, too--after all they're

> building community, and we need various people doing various things

> in order to complete a community.

>

> Just to end... I feel less hopeless, less depressed, less despondent

> because of these linkages. I still see what's happening, I still

> suffer information overload, but I feel a tiny bit less vulnerable...

>

> Just a reminder--Please don't put off stocking up on herbal/

> homeopathic remedies now (LDM-100, especially), while they're

> available, no matter what you do for food. Knowing I can treat the

> kids for virus/bacteria/fungus is a huge relief, and I can just sort

> of check it off the list now. At least that's one thing, eh?!!

>

> Love to you all,

> Janice

> Jefferson County, Kansas--

> Home of a BAZILLION honeybees, by the way ... be encouraged :)

>

> Daniel Stafford wrote:

>>

>> I don't know how to get family members to listen - I have the same

>> issue - they just see the downside and want to continue "as-is" so

>> far.

>>

>> I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to start with those of us

>> who live in proximity and are awake to this. We could all start

>> doing our gardening, and organize canning parties this fall in our

>> local areas. Setting up something like an online social network

>> specifically for urban agriculture might be a place to start, other

>> than in your garden. After all, we all love company while we're

>> working - and who knows how many of your neighbors might be

>> wondering what they can do about it all. Also, if we all grow

>> tomatoes and corn, where will we get onions, garlic, or carrots?

>> Some coordination among urban growers on the local level is a great

>> idea.

>>

>> By the way, here is an excellent article on how to put a no-till

>> organic garden in any yard: http://www.motherearthnews.com/Organic-Gardening/2008-04-01/Easy-Garden-Anyone-Can-Make.aspx

>>

>> When the food crisis really starts hitting, there's going to be a

>> whole different attitude. That usually wakes people up really fast

>> - the problem is, we are within about three-four weeks of planting

>> season. It is pretty late to start seedlings for this year - so if

>> you are going to take on a little urban agriculture of your own,

>> choose varieties that mature rapidly. Seed savers and other seed

>> sources will usually tell you how long a particular veggie variety

>> takes to produce.

>>

>> On the home front, we need to approach our local municipalities on

>> using eminent domain as a weapon against foreclosure. That won't be

>> enough by itself, though. Those municipalities do have to pay for

>> what they sieze, even if it's not market rate. They also lose

>> property tax revenues on any such properties unless they can turn

>> around ownership quickly.

>>

>> Maybe organizing non-profit "housing co-ops" that buy out mortgages

>> and sell them back to homeowners at close to zero interest might be

>> another approach to work with. Think about it - high-interest

>> mortgages really cost many thousands of dollars over the long term

>> than their initial loan amount. If people start pitching in to a co-

>> op at $25.00 a month, then get in line to have their mortgage

>> bought out by the co-op, a lot of capital that would have gone to

>> pay interest will be conserved in the local communities. The co-op

>> then sells the house back to the homeowner over time, but without

>> the added interest costs raising their payment. Add this up over

>> hundreds or thousands of houses, and the amount of money not sent

>> to big corporations in interest gets truly immense - and makes it

>> easier for communities to afford other things.

>>

>> Such cooperatives could also have rules about urban/suburban

>> organic gardening - say, in favor thereof...you join, you agree to

>> produce food using organic means.

>>

>> Approaching municipal governments about city, town, or village-wide

>> composting programs can also help. Many municipalities that do this

>> provide free organic fertilizer - compost - back to their residents

>> at little or no cost while reducing their landfill use by about

>> thirty percent.

>>

>> Organize classes in your area on gardening, canning, and composting

>> - share seeds and knowledge. Get people working together. Target

>> classes to specific neighborhoods, so that you're teaching the same

>> neighbors at the same time - making it easy for them to garden

>> together cooperatively.

>>

>> Also, make your garden as attractive as possible, so you avoid

>> those "going hillbilly?" looks and grumbles from suburbanites with

>> a well-developed sense of aesthetics.

>>

>> The bottom line, we just need to start taking whatever positive

>> action we can. E-mail lists need to become better than gripe

>> sessions - they need to become the inspiration for beneficial,

>> peaceful grass roots action.

>>

>> Dan

>>

>>

>>

>> Mike Kirk wrote:

>>>

>>> Any advice on how to get family members and relatives to "see the

>>> light" on these issues? Most of mine live in "Disney World" and

>>> don't even bring it up.

>>>

>>> Too much of a downer at holidays and get togethers - la,la, la -

>>> "the government will step in and make the problems go away."

>>>

>>> With these events coming at a more rapid pace, at some point it

>>> will be hard to avoid the reality.

>>>

>>> Thanks for the post. Time to get my bicycle ready for the daily

>>> commute. :-)

>>>

>>> -Mike

>>>

>>> Daniel Stafford <aqmstaffo at mailbag.com> wrote:

>>> I said this first this past January as the foreclosure crisis

>>> started dragging on the economy. Dire predictions were flying all

>>> about. Now, there are major retailing chains and restaurant chains

>>> closing stores or going bankrupt. We've lost 3/4 of the Bakers

>>> Square, Joes Crab Shack, and Lonestar Steak Houses in our area

>>> already. Wickes Furniture was just built last spring, and they

>>> went out of business - it's empty now. Wilson's Leather is going

>>> out of business nationally, their entire store, fixtures included,

>>> is on clearance. Food rationing is starting to happen on both

>>> coasts. Oil has spiked over $117.00 a barrel and gasoline is

>>> looking to head north of $4.00 per gallon this spring, let alone

>>> this summer.

>>>

>>> Wage erosion cuts deeper in US America faces food rationing? Oil

>>> spikes to over $117 per barrel

>>> Average pump price hits $3.50; Fuel panic begins, oil capacity

>>> rise on hold.

>>> Food prices could harm security

>>> US dollar hits record low

>>> AU drought worsens global rice crisis States tackle foreclosure

>>> Foreigners sustain NY's economy Foreclosures up 57% in 12 mos. AP:

>>> More won't be buying home soon

>>> Ohio town fore- closures up 178% US housing woes spread globally

>>> Citigroup, Merrill Lynch's $15b loss 'Poor go hungry, rich fill

>>> tanks' Soros sounds world economy alarm

>>> Middle class hit by debt, econ. woes 'Bleaker hopes' for

>>> retirement years Foreclosures hit McMansions Delinquent loan

>>> payments soar UN World Food Program struggling

>>> Corn rationing predicted for 2008 Banks abandoning student loans

>>> Economic downturn hits states hard Food stamp use nears new high

>>> Wave of Bankruptcies Will 'Remake' Shopping Malls Across the

>>> Country "Foreclosures Prompt Cities to Make Plea for Aid :

>>> The United States Conference of Mayors (usmayors.org)As more than

>>> 250 mayors , agreed that the collapse of the subprime market had

>>> left a growing problem of vacant houses, depressed property

>>> values, tighter credit, and a need to cut services to close

>>> municipal budget gaps.

>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/24/us/24mayors.html?

>>> _r=1&oref=slogin "

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> How do we beat this in the absence of help from the federal

>>> government?

>>> It's Time To Develop Community Volunteer Pools

>>>

>>> It's Time To Develop Community Volunteer Pools -

>>>

>>>

>>> With news like this, and many other stories threatening the

>>> possibility of a global Depression, (Based on a repeat of the land

>>> speculation mistakes of the 1920's and other factors) it is time

>>> to organize volunteer labor pools. Absent any real leadership from

>>> the government, the unemployed and bankrupt will increase in

>>> numbers dramatically over the next few years. This represents a

>>> lot of economically desperate people and a huge pool of idle talent.

>>>

>>> Food security is going to become difficult under these

>>> circumstances. It will become vital to begin massive vegetable

>>> gardening efforts in urban and suburban areas. It is also going to

>>> become necessary to build large scale shelters as housing

>>> foreclosures continue to skyrocket, driving up the ranks of the

>>> homeless.

>>>

>>> Grass lawns are a waste of precious crop-growing space. If you add

>>> up the aggregate land area of lawns in the USA, that is a large

>>> area of "farmable" land. Putting in a home garden now, before it's

>>> too late, could help many avoid hunger if the economy collapses as

>>> many are predicting. Community garden plots need to rise up, and

>>> so do back yard garden plots. "Canning days" for whole

>>> neighborhoods could mean the difference between just missing

>>> certain food items or going hungry over the next few winters. http://www.seedsavers.org

>>> is an excellent source of vegetable seeds and plant seedlings,

>>> with over 25,000 varieties of heirloom vegetables that are

>>> optimized for different parts of the country.

>>>

>>> Why not begin forming the structures of a "citizens' W.P.A." now,

>>> before all this happens? Strapped municipalities could use these

>>> pools of labor to avoid much of the cost of infrastructure

>>> improvements, focusing their dwindling property tax intake on

>>> purchasing materials for volunteer workers to use. In return, such

>>> municipalities could provide materials and space for shelters and

>>> gardening projects to feed the volunteers and their families.

>>>

>>> Additionally, judicious use of eminent domain laws could foreclose

>>> on the Foreclosers - seizing bank-owned vacant properties and

>>> using them to house homeless laborers in return for their labor

>>> hours on community projects. They do not need the federal

>>> government to solve the problem. This could be a way for rural

>>> communities and suburbs to turn the situation around - since such

>>> efforts would in effect fall outside the purview of the failing

>>> capitalist economy.

>>>

>>> Obviously, recycling and local sourcing of materials would be

>>> driven higher by such measures. Energy efficiency could also be

>>> built into such plans.

>>>

>>> Just as the States are taking action on renewable energy and

>>> climate change through local initiatives, the States and local

>>> communities could begin a national turn-around absent help from

>>> the federal government, in a legal and moral manner.

>>>

>>> Idle union workers could initiate apprenticeship programs within

>>> the volunteer pools, creating a vast pool of skilled workers for

>>> when the economy does rebound. Municipal energy projects such as

>>> wind, solar, and biomass (not using food grains, but rather

>>> agricultural and yard waste) systems could be built also, driving

>>> up local renewable power generation.

>>>

>>> Local sustainable forestry programs could also be developed and

>>> maintained, providing a source of lumber for furniture and

>>> interior building structures. Earthen housing using lumber only

>>> for floors, windows and roofing could provide highly durable and

>>> energy-efficient housing in place of the current lumber-intensive

>>> methods of buildings. Existing vacant structures could be tapped

>>> for materials and space to build with.

>>>

>>> Municipalities that embark on such paths could begin to draw

>>> people back out into the small towns and suburbs without the need

>>> for long-distance commuting.

>>>

>>> Small family-owned farms might even work with such communities,

>>> providing much-needed food in return for volunteer labor to help

>>> with growing and harvesting. Composting and sustainable farming

>>> methods are age-old ways of working farms without the need for

>>> petroleum-based fertilization. Natural methods of controlling

>>> pests would leave enough production in place, when combined with

>>> urban/suburban gardening efforts, to feed local populations.

>>>

>>> I also wonder if milkweed pod fiber and cattail fiber couldn't be

>>> used to produce small quantities of local textiles in a manner

>>> similar to the way cotton is used today. Does anyone out there

>>> know if there are small-scale textile mills that could be used or

>>> built to operate with such materials? Milkweed and cattails are

>>> ubiquitous in the Midwestern US in my experience.

>>>

>>> It's time to think outside the traditional box, and recover some

>>> of the skill sets that were our heritage from times when

>>> communities had to be much more self-reliant in the past, combined

>>> with modern technologies in ways that are harmonious to the

>>> natural environment and the natural rhythms of the human body.

>>>

>>> There are things we can do to head the worst effects of a severe

>>> economic downturn off, while making the lives we lead more

>>> sustainable and healthy. More walking, biking, and horsepower in

>>> the flesh, more local foods, more local work, shared computers at

>>> libraries, community fire brigades, and many other means are

>>> available.

>>>

>>> Open private schools where laid-off teachers could educate

>>> children and recover from the closures of public schools resulting

>>> from No Child Left Behind and lack of federal funding.

>>>

>>> There are ways to do these things, using non-profit entities and

>>> local initiatives that would bypass the failures of national-scale

>>> systems. A mixture of the best from the past and present could

>>> lead to a more sustainable, stable, and bright future.

>>>

>>> It's not necessary to go down in flaming despair at all - if we

>>> work together, and start now.

>>>

>>> JMHO,

>>>

>>> Dan Stafford

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Kris Knight of WellAware Life Enhancement Center
Phone: 1-608-ALL-LIFE
welaware at merr.com





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