[CitizensTruth] Hoax - was Re: Fw: Good news. Wyoming sheriffs put Feds in their place.
Chuck Minne
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Sat Apr 26 00:16:33 EDT 2008
Sorry, this is from: http://beyond-the-illusion.com/files/New-Files/20000131/wyoming_sheriff_hoax_revealed.txt
Well I am shocked. For people who take pride in picking apart government
statements to find conspiracy theories all over, you take this story at face
value. So I've decided to do it for you, since clearly you cannot.
Let's go to the original post, in its entirety with point by point
refutations:
WYOMING SHERIFF PUTS FEDERAL OFFICERS ON CHOKE CHAINS
County sheriffs in Wyoming are insisting that all federal law
enforcement officers and personnel from federal regulatory agencies must
clear all their activities in a Wyoming county
with the Sheriff's Office.
(There is only one "sheriff" cited, and as we are about to see, that
"sheriff" is questionable.)
Speaking at a press conference following the recent US District Court
decision (case No 2:96-cv-099-J), Bighorn County Sheriff Dave Mattis stated
that all federal officials are forbidden to enter his county without his
prior approval.
(Now, look at this. RECENT decsion, and yet the Case notes below say
"Closed: 29th April 1997". April 1997 is RFECENT in relation to January
2000? Next, let's look at "Sheriff" Dave Mattis. Again, let's see the case
notes say the party is "Case: Castaneda v. USA" not "Mattis v. USA" or even
"Castaneda et. al. v. USA". Now, the case number. Here the case number is
"No 2:96-cv-099-J" below in the case notes it is "Case No: 2:1996cv00099" no
J in sight and "96" becomes "1996". I'll forgo the hyphen problems, that'd
just be petty.)
"If a sheriff doesn't want the Feds in his county, he has the Constitutional
power and Right to keep them out -or- ask them to leave -or- retain them in
custody."
(Ok, nice quote from this "phantom" Sheriff Castaneda...er...Mattis I mean.
This ability to quote will become important later.)
The court decision came about after Mattis & other members of the Wyoming
Sheriffs' Association brought a suit against both the BATF and the IRS in
the Wyoming federal court district seeking restoration of the protections
enshrined in the United States Constitution and the Wyoming Constitution.
(Now, court decision. BUT as has been shown before in other posts, it was
NOT a court decision but a "settlement". Here's a quote from one post: "His
case was settled with a settlement, he says, not a court decision." Now, I
know this is double hearsay, but then again all YOU havei is double hearsay,
so if yours is acceptable, so is mine. AND let's also note that any
Lexis-Nexis or Westlaw search will show NO such suit filed in ANY Wyoming
case. In fact the ONLY case with the Wyoming Sheriff's Association involved
retirement benefits, and was to mention that the petitioner was a member of
the group.)
The District Court ruled in favor of the sheriffs,
("Castaneda v. USA" not "Castandea et. al. v. USA. Can't keep the story
straight, can they?)
stating that, "Wyoming is a sovereign state and the duly elected sheriff of
a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county and has law
enforcement powers exceeding that of any other state or federal official."
(WHERE IS THIS DOCUMENT? They can quote the document, but NO ONE seems to be
able to provide it. Now, wether it is a settlement, a court order, or some
scribble on a napkin, they seem to be able to quote it. And yet when asked
to provide it, they suddenly say "Well, it is under gag" or "The "Sheriff"
doesn't have it." IF it was a judiciaul determination, a settlement,
WHATEVER, then the parties to the case WOULD have a CERTIFIED copy of the
final order or determination. And CLEARLY they do, since they QUOTED it. But
suddenly when pressed, they cannot produce it? Sounds like something out of
the Clinton playbook: "I don't know where those billing records are,
Senator, but I can assure you as to what they say and can quote them to
you.")
The Wyoming sheriffs are demanding access to all BATF files to verify that
the agency is not violating provisions of Wyoming law that prohibit the
registration of firearms or the keeping of a registry of firearm owners.
(Yep, and those files are the same place as this fictious court
order/settlement. Namely: never never land.)
The sheriffs are also demanding that federal agencies immediately cease the
seizure of private property and the impoundment of private bank accounts - -
- without regard to due process in state courts.
(I have a friend who is a tax attorney. He's going to pull up a few cases
from Wyoming since 1997 for failure to pay income tax liens and seizures by
the Federal Government. When he gives them to me, I'll post here. Suffice to
say this is all but certainly crap.)
Sheriff Mattis stated,
(Shouldn't that be Castaneda?)
"I am reacting to the actions of federal employees who have attempted to
deprive citizens of my county of their privacy, their liberty, and their
property without regard to constitutional safeguards.
(By completely ignoring the supremecy clause of the Constitution)
I hope that more sheriffs all across America will join us in protecting
their citizens from the illegal activities of the IRS, EPA, BATF, FBI, or
any other federal agency that is operating outside the confines of
Constitutional Law.
(Constitutional law as decided by me, not the courts, not the due process of
the judicary and legislature, as defined by me. What a lark.)
Employees of the IRS and the EPA are no longer welcome in Bighorn County
unless they intend to operate in conformance to constitutional law."
(As laid out in this phantom court order, I mean settlement, that I just
can't see to provide right now.)
Case Notes:
Case: Castaneda v. USA
Filed: 10th May 1996
Closed: 29th April 1997
Case No: 2:1996cv00099 Wyoming District Court, Casper
Nature of Suit: Civil Rights
(Again, hit the computers folks. Look for cases of Castaneda [there are
thousands, it is a popular name in California] in Wyoming. THERE ARE NONE.
Not to mention that they provide ALL this info, but WHERE is the judge's
name? Ever case once filed is given to a specific judge. WHERE'S the judge's
name. A call to that judge's clerk could clear this up in 5 minutes. But of
course, if they did THAT then anyone who checked would find this is a HOAX
inside of 5 minutes.)
Class dismissed.
Daniel Stafford <aqmstaffo at mailbag.com> wrote:
Wow. Someone tell me this is true.
Dan
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Subject: RE: Good news. Wyoming sheriffs put Feds in their place.
Yeah, I was just gonna ask, how does that affect Joe in Maricopa Country, who's a total nutcase.
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:54:25 -0400
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That's welcome news, because our Maricopa County sheriff Joe Arpaio in AZ has gone wild and lawless. Like Bush, he thinks he's above the law. :(
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Subject: Fw: Good news. Wyoming sheriffs put Feds in their place.
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:40:37 -0700
----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Eastman
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Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:11 PM
Subject: Good news. Wyoming sheriffs put Feds in their place.
Wyoming sheriffs put Feds in their place.
Here's one the mainstream media isn't going to tell you: County sheriffs in Wyoming are demanding that federal agents actually abide by the Constitution, or face arrest. Even better, a U.S. District Court agreed according to the Keene Free Press:
The court decision was the result of a suit against both the BATF and the IRS by Mattis and other members of the WyomingSheriff's Association. The suit in the Wyoming federal court district sought restoration of the protections Constitution and the Wyoming Constitution.
Guess what? The District Court ruled in favor of the sheriffs. In fact, they stated,Wyoming is a sovereign state and the duly elected sheriff of a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county and has law enforcement powers exceeding that of any other state or federal official." Go back and re-read this quote. The court confirms and asserts that "the duly elected sheriff of a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county and has law enforcement powers EXCEEDING that of any other state OR federal official." And you thought the 10th Amendment was dead and buried not in Wyoming, not yet.Bighorn County Sheriff Dave Mattis comments:
"If a sheriff doesn't want the Feds in his county he has the constitutional right and power to keep them out, or ask them to leave, or retain them in custody." "I am reacting in response to the actions of federal employees who have attempted to deprive citizens of my county of their privacy, their liberty, and their property without regard to constitutional safeguards. I hope that more sheriffs all across America will join us in protecting their citizens from the illegal activities of the IRS, EPA, BATF,FBI, or any other federal agency that is operating outside the confines of constitutional law. Employees of the IRS and the EPA are no longer welcome in Bighorn County unless they intend to operate in conformance to constitutional law."The implications are huge:
But it gets even better. Since the judge stated that the sheriff "has law enforcement powers EXCEEDING that of any other state OR federal official," the Wyoming sheriffs are flexing their muscles. They are demanding access to all BATF files.
Why? So as to verify that the agency is not violating provisions of Wyoming law that prohibits the registration of firearms or the keeping of a registry of firearm owners. This would be wrong.
The sheriffs are also demanding that federal agencies immediately cease the seizure of private property and the impoundment of private bank accounts without regard to due process in Wyoming state courts.
This case is not just some amusing mountain melodrama. This is a BIG deal. This case is yet further evidence that the 10th Amendment is not yet totally dead, or in a complete decay in the United States.
It is also significant in that it can, may, and hopefully will be interpreted to mean that "political subdivisions of a State are included within the meaning of the amendment, or that the powers exercised by a sheriff are an extension of those common law powers which the 10th Amendment explicitly reserves to the People, if they are not granted to the federal government or specifically prohibited to the States."
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