From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com Mon Dec 1 13:11:51 2008 From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:11:51 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] EXCLUSIVE: Mumbai - Not a [JUST] a Mossad CIA Job Message-ID: <493428E7.80107@thetwofacesofmoney.com> the following 3 clips are decidedly not for delicate ears but they are funny (and short). Arguably, they contain more truth than most "newslies" sources. First clip, featuring Lying Throughmyteeth, is under 7 minutes, titled: Mumbai - Not a Mossad CIA Job: http://www.fknnewz.com/view/197/mumbai-not-a-mossad-cia-job/ Second clip, featuring Reagan in his own words, is under 3 minutes, and includes this intriguing quote: "The Evidence is now conclusive that the terrorist bombing of La Belle Discoteque was planned and executed under direct orders of the UN Charter . . ." http://www.fknnewz.com/view/200/-ronald-reagan-on-falseflag-terrorism-/ Third clip, featuring Hardto Please, is under 5 minutes: quote "autopsy report says in plain English that RFK was shot in the back by 2 bullets, even though Sirhan Sirhan was standing 6 feet in front of him": http://www.fknnewz.com/view/51/litvinenko-not-killed-by-cia-like-rfk-jfk-mlk/ NOW read this more scholarly and detailed article, titled "India's 9/11. Who was Behind the Mumbai Attacks? Washington is Fostering Political Divisions between India and Pakistan: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11217 From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com Mon Dec 1 13:19:09 2008 From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:19:09 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] water powered cars - Lost Science addendum Message-ID: <49342A9D.4050501@thetwofacesofmoney.com> Reuter's report, under 1 1/2 minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU (description: Have you ever wondered why H2O/Water powered cars have never been marketed by U.S companies? Maybe the word OIL comes to mind! Now the Japanese are marketing H2O cars. Please don't tell me that America will be buying H2O cars from Japan, when this simple technology has been available for decades!!! This is the Japanese company the clip talks about: http://www.genepax.co.jp/en/ ) Converting your own car for under $150: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hliB6W8T2ck&feature=related and a critique of new conversion kits: http://www.waterasgas4car.com/ top rated kit: http://runyourcarwithwater.com/?hop=buyinfo which sells such a device, has some interesting video clips and includes this intriguing statement: HHO provides the atomic power of Hydrogen, while maintaining the stability of water. And this addendum to the Lost Science in 4 parts series of emails I posted over the past few weeks. The following links concern themselves with water powered engines using principles developed by Schauberger. In this clip watch how Klein uses water to power an electrolysis device to burn through brick, as Schauberger did for cement decades before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sTs30E1neg And this page: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FA9wiMkXwE (click on the "more info" button on the right for more clips featuring various inventors including Klein above) From mincam2 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 1 23:06:11 2008 From: mincam2 at yahoo.com (Chuck Minne) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:06:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] How we got screwed - read the bankers' lies here. In-Reply-To: <493428E7.80107@thetwofacesofmoney.com> Message-ID: <287900.90561.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> US diluted loan rules before crash By MATT APUZZO ? 18 hours ago ? WASHINGTON (AP) ? The Bush administration backed off proposed crackdowns on no-money-down, interest-only mortgages years before the economy collapsed, buckling to pressure from some of the same banks that have now failed. It ignored remarkably prescient warnings that foretold the financial meltdown, according to an Associated Press review of regulatory documents. ? "Expect fallout, expect foreclosures, expect horror stories," California mortgage lender Paris Welch wrote to U.S. regulators in January 2006, about one year before the housing implosion cost her a job. ? Bowing to aggressive lobbying ? along with assurances from banks that the troubled mortgages were OK ? regulators delayed action for nearly one year. By the time new rules were released late in 2006, the toughest of the proposed provisions were gone and the meltdown was under way. ? "These mortgages have been considered more safe and sound for portfolio lenders than many fixed rate mortgages," David Schneider, home loan president of Washington Mutual, told federal regulators in early 2006. Two years later, WaMu became the largest bank failure in U.S. history. ? The administration's blind eye to the impending crisis is emblematic of its governing philosophy, which trusted market forces and discounted the value of government intervention in the economy. Its belief ironically has ushered in the most massive government intervention since the 1930s. ? Many of the banks that fought to undermine the proposals by some regulators are now either out of business or accepting billions in federal aid to recover from a mortgage crisis they insisted would never come. Many executives remain in high-paying jobs, even after their assurances were proved false. ? In 2005, faced with ominous signs the housing market was in jeopardy, bank regulators proposed new guidelines for banks writing risky loans. Today, in the midst of the worst housing recession in a generation, the proposal reads like a list of what-ifs: ? _Regulators told bankers exotic mortgages were often inappropriate for buyers with bad credit. _Banks would have been required to increase efforts to verify that buyers actually had jobs and could afford houses. _Regulators proposed a cap on risky mortgages so a string of defaults wouldn't be crippling. _Banks that bundled and sold mortgages were told to be sure investors knew exactly what they were buying. _Regulators urged banks to help buyers make responsible decisions and clearly advise them that interest rates might skyrocket and huge payments might be due sooner than expected. ? Those proposals all were stripped from the final rules. None required congressional approval or the president's signature. ? "In hindsight, it was spot on," said Jeffrey Brown, a former top official at the Office of Comptroller of the Currency, one of the first agencies to raise concerns about risky lending. ? Federal regulators were especially concerned about mortgages known as "option ARMs," which allow borrowers to make payments so low that mortgage debt actually increases every month. But banking executives accused the government of overreacting. ? Bankers said such loans might be risky when approved with no money down or without ensuring buyers have jobs but such risk could be managed without government intervention. ? "An open market will mean that different institutions will develop different methodologies for achieving this goal," Joseph Polizzotto, counsel to now-bankrupt Lehman Brothers, told U.S. regulators in a March 2006. ? Countrywide Financial Corp., at the time the nation's largest mortgage lender, agreed. The proposal "appears excessive and will inhibit future innovation in the marketplace," said Mary Jane Seebach, managing director of public affairs. ? One of the most contested rules said that before banks purchase mortgages from brokers, they should verify the process to ensure buyers could afford their homes. Some bankers now blame much of the housing crisis on brokers who wrote fraudulent, predatory loans. But in 2006, banks said they shouldn't have to double-check the brokers. ? "It is not our role to be the regulator for the third-party lenders," wrote Ruthann Melbourne, chief risk officer of IndyMac Bank. ? California-based IndyMac also criticized regulators for not recognizing the track record of interest-only loans and option ARMs, which accounted for 70 percent of IndyMac's 2005 mortgage portfolio. This summer, the government seized IndyMac and will pay an estimated $9 billion to ensure customers don't lose their deposits. ? Last week, Downey Savings joined the growing list of failed banks. The problem: About 52 percent of its mortgage portfolio was tied up in risky option ARMs, which in 2006 Downey insisted were safe ? maybe even safer than traditional 30-year mortgages. ? "To conclude that 'nontraditional' equates to higher risk does not appropriately balance risk and compensating factors of these products," said Lillian Gavin, the bank's chief credit officer. ? At least some regulators didn't buy it. The comptroller of the currency, John C. Dugan, was among the first to sound the alarm in mid-2005. Speaking to a consumer advocacy group, Dugan painted a troublesome picture of option-ARM lending. Many buyers, particularly those with bad credit, would soon be unable to afford their payments, he said. And if housing prices declined, homeowners wouldn't even be able to sell their way out of the mess. ? It sounded simple, but "people kind of looked at us regulators as old-fashioned," said Brown, the agency's former deputy comptroller. ? Diane Casey-Landry, of the American Bankers Association, said the industry feared a two-tiered system in which banks had to follow rules that mortgage brokers did not. She said opposition was based on the banks' best information. ? "You're looking at a decline in real estate values that was never contemplated," she said. ? Some saw problems coming. Community groups and even some in the mortgage business, like Welch, warned regulators not to ease their rules. ? "We expect to see a huge increase in defaults, delinquencies and foreclosures as a result of the over selling of these products," Kevin Stein, associate director of the California Reinvestment Coalition, wrote to regulators in 2006. The group advocates on housing and banking issues for low-income and minority residents. ? The government's banking agencies spent nearly a year debating the rules, which required unanimous agreement among the OCC, Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., Federal Reserve, and the Office of Thrift Supervision ? agencies that sometimes don't agree. ? The Fed, for instance, was reluctant under Alan Greenspan to heavily regulate lending. Similarly, the Office of Thrift Supervision, an arm of the Treasury Department that regulated many in the subprime mortgage market, worried that restricting certain mortgages would hurt banks and consumers. ? Grovetta Gardineer, OTS managing director for corporate and international activities, said the 2005 proposal "attempted to send an alarm bell that these products are bad." After hearing from banks, she said, regulators were persuaded that the loans themselves were not problematic as long as banks managed the risk. She disputes the notion that the rules were weakened. ? In the past year, with Congress scrambling to stanch the bleeding in the financial industry, regulators have tightened rules on risky mortgages. ? Congress is considering further tightening, including some of the same proposals abandoned years ago. ? ? Congress asking the bankers where all the bailout money went. ? River and Ocean currents can power the world say U. of Michigan scientists ? See the video --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Geri Perry wrote: From: Geri Perry Subject: [CitizensTruth] EXCLUSIVE: Mumbai - Not a [JUST] a Mossad CIA Job To: "Citizens Truth" Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 12:11 PM the following 3 clips are decidedly not for delicate ears but they are funny (and short). Arguably, they contain more truth than most "newslies" sources. First clip, featuring Lying Throughmyteeth, is under 7 minutes, titled: Mumbai - Not a Mossad CIA Job: http://www.fknnewz.com/view/197/mumbai-not-a-mossad-cia-job/ Second clip, featuring Reagan in his own words, is under 3 minutes, and includes this intriguing quote: "The Evidence is now conclusive that the terrorist bombing of La Belle Discoteque was planned and executed under direct orders of the UN Charter . . ." http://www.fknnewz.com/view/200/-ronald-reagan-on-falseflag-terrorism-/ Third clip, featuring Hardto Please, is under 5 minutes: quote "autopsy report says in plain English that RFK was shot in the back by 2 bullets, even though Sirhan Sirhan was standing 6 feet in front of him": http://www.fknnewz.com/view/51/litvinenko-not-killed-by-cia-like-rfk-jfk-mlk/ NOW read this more scholarly and detailed article, titled "India's 9/11. Who was Behind the Mumbai Attacks? Washington is Fostering Political Divisions between India and Pakistan: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11217 _______________________________________________ CitizensTruth mailing list CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth website: http://citizenstruth.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Tue Dec 2 10:14:32 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:14:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be published in the Chicago Tribune Message-ID: <538658.34280.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mr. Obama: Don?t Miss Next Week?s Chicago Tribune Full-Page Citizenship Challenge To Run Twice, December 1st and 3rd D.C. National Press Club Event: Dec 8th Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be published in the Chicago Tribune on both Monday, December 1, 2008 and Wednesday, December 3, 2008. It will appear in the main news section. Click here to view a copy of the final ad. http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/#LatestNews From mjkirk12 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 2 10:44:47 2008 From: mjkirk12 at yahoo.com (Mike Kirk) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:44:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be published in the Chicago Tribune In-Reply-To: <538658.34280.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <787036.6361.qm@web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> This ad is well-intentioned, but given the public apathy to the egregious constitutional violations of President Bush (and other past Presidents), Obama's place of birth is a minor issue. You can be sure the Republicans would have dug this up to use against Obama during the campaign if it was true. -Mike --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Edward Rynearson wrote: > From: Edward Rynearson > Subject: [CitizensTruth] Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be published in the Chicago Tribune > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:14 AM > Mr. Obama: > Don?t Miss Next Week?s Chicago Tribune > Full-Page Citizenship Challenge To Run Twice, > December 1st and 3rd > > D.C. National Press Club Event: Dec 8th > > Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be published in > the Chicago Tribune > on both Monday, December 1, 2008 and Wednesday, December 3, > 2008. It will appear in the main news section. Click here to > view a copy of the final ad. > > http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/#LatestNews > _______________________________________________ > CitizensTruth mailing list > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > website: http://citizenstruth.info From hal at drxyzzy.org Tue Dec 2 11:23:16 2008 From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:23:16 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] bailing what out Message-ID: Remember when Bush and friends tried to privatize Social Security? Total Social Security benefits paid in 2007 were $585 billion. Cost of bailouts to Wall Street are now at $7 trillion and no end in sight. One way of seeing these amazing numbers is that the folks on Wall Street managed to cut in front of a bunch of retirees after all, pocketing huge amounts of cash without much of a fight at all. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Tue Dec 2 12:03:10 2008 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:03:10 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be published in the Chicago Tribune In-Reply-To: <787036.6361.qm@web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <787036.6361.qm@web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49356A4E.5030707@mailbag.com> The Wing Nuts at work were all over it today - they think it'll actually go somewhere - I have my doubts. Dan Mike Kirk wrote: > This ad is well-intentioned, but given the public apathy to the egregious constitutional violations of President Bush (and other past Presidents), Obama's place of birth is a minor issue. > > You can be sure the Republicans would have dug this up to use against Obama during the campaign if it was true. > > -Mike > > > --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Edward Rynearson wrote: > > >> From: Edward Rynearson >> Subject: [CitizensTruth] Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be published in the Chicago Tribune >> To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net >> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:14 AM >> Mr. Obama: >> Don?t Miss Next Week?s Chicago Tribune >> Full-Page Citizenship Challenge To Run Twice, >> December 1st and 3rd >> >> D.C. National Press Club Event: Dec 8th >> >> Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be published in >> the Chicago Tribune >> on both Monday, December 1, 2008 and Wednesday, December 3, >> 2008. It will appear in the main news section. 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URL: From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Tue Dec 2 12:13:08 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:13:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] CitizensTruth Digest, Vol 41, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <675277.62507.qm@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "You can be sure the Republicans would have dug this up to use against Obama during the campaign if it was true." I believe that the entire election was a farce. Palin and McCain were picked to provide an easy target for Obama. Ron Paul was the only viable opponent to any democrat and he was shut down. Are there two opposing parties? I think the Republicans were told to keep a thousand miles away from this by the people who really run things. Ed --- On Tue, 12/2/08, citizenstruth-request at six.pairlist.net wrote: > From: citizenstruth-request at six.pairlist.net > Subject: CitizensTruth Digest, Vol 41, Issue 3 > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 11:00 AM > Send CitizensTruth mailing list submissions to > citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > citizenstruth-request at six.pairlist.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > citizenstruth-owner at six.pairlist.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of CitizensTruth digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will > be published in > the Chicago Tribune (Edward Rynearson) > 2. Re: Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will > be published > in the Chicago Tribune (Mike Kirk) > 3. bailing what out (Hal Snyder) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:14:32 -0800 (PST) > From: Edward Rynearson > Subject: [CitizensTruth] Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. > Obama will > be published in the Chicago Tribune > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > Message-ID: > <538658.34280.qm at web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Mr. Obama: > Don?t Miss Next Week?s Chicago Tribune > Full-Page Citizenship Challenge To Run Twice, > December 1st and 3rd > > D.C. National Press Club Event: Dec 8th > > Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be published in > the Chicago Tribune > on both Monday, December 1, 2008 and Wednesday, December 3, > 2008. It will appear in the main news section. Click here to > view a copy of the final ad. > > http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/#LatestNews > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:44:47 -0800 (PST) > From: Mike Kirk > Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Our full-page Open Letter to > Mr. Obama > will be published in the Chicago Tribune > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > Message-ID: > <787036.6361.qm at web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > This ad is well-intentioned, but given the public apathy to > the egregious constitutional violations of President Bush > (and other past Presidents), Obama's place of birth is a > minor issue. > > You can be sure the Republicans would have dug this up to > use against Obama during the campaign if it was true. > > -Mike > > > --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Edward Rynearson > wrote: > > > From: Edward Rynearson > > > Subject: [CitizensTruth] Our full-page Open Letter to > Mr. Obama will be published in the Chicago Tribune > > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:14 AM > > Mr. Obama: > > Don?t Miss Next Week?s Chicago Tribune > > Full-Page Citizenship Challenge To Run Twice, > > December 1st and 3rd > > > > D.C. National Press Club Event: Dec 8th > > > > Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be > published in > > the Chicago Tribune > > on both Monday, December 1, 2008 and Wednesday, > December 3, > > 2008. It will appear in the main news section. Click > here to > > view a copy of the final ad. > > > > http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/#LatestNews > > _______________________________________________ > > CitizensTruth mailing list > > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > > website: http://citizenstruth.info > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:23:16 -0600 > From: Hal Snyder > Subject: [CitizensTruth] bailing what out > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; > Format="flowed"; > DelSp="yes" > > Remember when Bush and friends tried to privatize Social > Security? > > Total Social Security benefits paid in 2007 were $585 > billion. > > Cost of bailouts to Wall Street are now at $7 trillion and > no end in > sight. > > One way of seeing these amazing numbers is that the folks > on Wall > Street managed to cut in front of a bunch of retirees after > all, > pocketing huge amounts of cash without much of a fight at > all. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > CitizensTruth mailing list > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > > > End of CitizensTruth Digest, Vol 41, Issue 3 > ******************************************** From mjkirk12 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 2 12:43:47 2008 From: mjkirk12 at yahoo.com (Mike Kirk) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:43:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] CitizensTruth Digest, Vol 41, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <675277.62507.qm@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <923804.8603.qm@web83806.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> So, the 'people that run things' (bankers, money masters, corporations) are allowing Obama to become President to later hold this issue of 'natural born citizen' over his head to keep him in line? -Mike --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Edward Rynearson wrote: > From: Edward Rynearson > Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] CitizensTruth Digest, Vol 41, Issue 3 > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 11:13 AM > "You can be sure the Republicans would have dug this up > to use against Obama during the campaign if it was > true." > > I believe that the entire election was a farce. Palin and > McCain were picked to provide an easy target for Obama. Ron > Paul was the only viable opponent to any democrat and he was > shut down. > > Are there two opposing parties? I think the Republicans > were told to keep a thousand miles away from this by the > people who really run things. > > Ed > > > --- On Tue, 12/2/08, citizenstruth-request at six.pairlist.net > wrote: > > > From: citizenstruth-request at six.pairlist.net > > > Subject: CitizensTruth Digest, Vol 41, Issue 3 > > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 11:00 AM > > Send CitizensTruth mailing list submissions to > > citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > > 'help' to > > citizenstruth-request at six.pairlist.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > citizenstruth-owner at six.pairlist.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is > more > > specific > > than "Re: Contents of CitizensTruth > digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will > > be published in > > the Chicago Tribune (Edward Rynearson) > > 2. Re: Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will > > be published > > in the Chicago Tribune (Mike Kirk) > > 3. bailing what out (Hal Snyder) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:14:32 -0800 (PST) > > From: Edward Rynearson > > > Subject: [CitizensTruth] Our full-page Open Letter to > Mr. > > Obama will > > be published in the Chicago Tribune > > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > > Message-ID: > > <538658.34280.qm at web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Mr. Obama: > > Don?t Miss Next Week?s Chicago Tribune > > Full-Page Citizenship Challenge To Run Twice, > > December 1st and 3rd > > > > D.C. National Press Club Event: Dec 8th > > > > Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be > published in > > the Chicago Tribune > > on both Monday, December 1, 2008 and Wednesday, > December 3, > > 2008. It will appear in the main news section. Click > here to > > view a copy of the final ad. > > > > http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/#LatestNews > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:44:47 -0800 (PST) > > From: Mike Kirk > > Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Our full-page Open Letter > to > > Mr. Obama > > will be published in the Chicago Tribune > > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > > Message-ID: > > <787036.6361.qm at web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > This ad is well-intentioned, but given the public > apathy to > > the egregious constitutional violations of President > Bush > > (and other past Presidents), Obama's place of > birth is a > > minor issue. > > > > You can be sure the Republicans would have dug this up > to > > use against Obama during the campaign if it was true. > > > > -Mike > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Edward Rynearson > > wrote: > > > > > From: Edward Rynearson > > > > > Subject: [CitizensTruth] Our full-page Open > Letter to > > Mr. Obama will be published in the Chicago Tribune > > > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > > > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:14 AM > > > Mr. Obama: > > > Don?t Miss Next Week?s Chicago Tribune > > > Full-Page Citizenship Challenge To Run Twice, > > > December 1st and 3rd > > > > > > D.C. National Press Club Event: Dec 8th > > > > > > Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be > > published in > > > the Chicago Tribune > > > on both Monday, December 1, 2008 and Wednesday, > > December 3, > > > 2008. It will appear in the main news section. > Click > > here to > > > view a copy of the final ad. > > > > > > http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/#LatestNews > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CitizensTruth mailing list > > > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > > > website: http://citizenstruth.info > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:23:16 -0600 > > From: Hal Snyder > > Subject: [CitizensTruth] bailing what out > > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > > Message-ID: > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii"; > > Format="flowed"; > > DelSp="yes" > > > > Remember when Bush and friends tried to privatize > Social > > Security? > > > > Total Social Security benefits paid in 2007 were $585 > > billion. > > > > Cost of bailouts to Wall Street are now at $7 trillion > and > > no end in > > sight. > > > > One way of seeing these amazing numbers is that the > folks > > on Wall > > Street managed to cut in front of a bunch of retirees > after > > all, > > pocketing huge amounts of cash without much of a fight > at > > all. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CitizensTruth mailing list > > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > > > > > > End of CitizensTruth Digest, Vol 41, Issue 3 > > ******************************************** > _______________________________________________ > CitizensTruth mailing list > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > website: http://citizenstruth.info From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Tue Dec 2 14:55:51 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:55:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Alex Jones on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory (must listen!) Message-ID: <81492.83966.qm@web30008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> December 2, 2008 Alex Jones appears on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory to discuss the public announcement of the plan to station 20,000 more troops inside America for ?domestic security? purposes. http://www.radiodujour.com/people/jones_alex/index.shtml (please distribute this - the infowars link is available on my page if you want to distribute that - lets get this out!) From rmigalla at earthlink.net Wed Dec 3 05:24:25 2008 From: rmigalla at earthlink.net (Robin Migalla) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 04:24:25 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] FW: Forest Gump Explains the Mortgage Mess Message-ID: <01C954FF.0745FA30.rmigalla@earthlink.net> -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 14:20 Subject: Forest Gump Explains the Mortgage Mess This is the best explanation I've heard. Not sure what it says about me to have to have a Forest Gump explanation to understand this mess. Mortgage Backed Securities are like boxes of chocolates. Criminals on Wall Street stole a few chocolates from the boxes and replaced them with turds. Their criminal buddies at Standard & Poor rated these boxes AAA Investment Grade chocolates. These boxes were then sold all over the world to investors. Eventually somebody bites into a turd and discovers the crime. Suddenly nobody trusts American chocolates anymore worldwide. Hank Paulson now wants the American taxpayers to buy up and hold all these boxes of turd-infested chocolates for $700 billion dollars until the market for turds returns to normal. Meanwhile, Hank's buddies, the Wall Street criminals who stole all the good chocolates are not being investigated, arrested, or indicted. Mama always said: 'Sniff the chocolates first, Forrest'. Quote of the day from a fund manager: 'This is worse than a divorce... I've lost half of my net worth and I still have my wife..' From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Wed Dec 3 14:35:42 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:35:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] =?utf-8?q?Wallstreet_Journal_Law_Blog=3A_Obama?= =?utf-8?q?=E2=80=99s_Citizenship_Again_Questioned_And_Then_Answered?= Message-ID: <16183.39091.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/12/03/obamas-citizenship-again-questioned-and-then-answered/ From hal at drxyzzy.org Thu Dec 4 09:50:20 2008 From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:50:20 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama ... In-Reply-To: <538658.34280.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <538658.34280.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <29399B35-90F3-4AC0-A57E-824EC2B31CC5@drxyzzy.org> BuzzFlash names the Trib as Media Putz of the Week. http://mediaputz.com/08/12/putz1204.html It's somewhat of a rant but makes a couple points. Meanwhile, the circus continues: Thomas Breaks Custom, Forces Supreme Court to look at Obama Citizenship Case (December 3, 2008) - In a highly unusual move, U.S. Associate Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has asked his colleagues on the court to consider the request of an East Brunswick, N.J. attorney who has filed a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama?s status as a United States citizen.... ?There is no way that anyone can argue about whether Barack Obama is a citizen,? Singer said. ?In this country, we have a system known as jus soli or birthright by citizenship. You are a citizen by being born on American soil and he (Obama) was born in Hawaii.? Singer said that Donofrio?s argument that Obama?s father was a Kenyan national does not matter because citizenship is not based on parentage, but on where someone was born. On Dec 2, 2008, at 9:14 AM, Edward Rynearson wrote: > Mr. Obama: > Don?t Miss Next Week?s Chicago Tribune > Full-Page Citizenship Challenge To Run Twice, > December 1st and 3rd > > D.C. National Press Club Event: Dec 8th > > Our full-page Open Letter to Mr. Obama will be published in the > Chicago Tribune > on both Monday, December 1, 2008 and Wednesday, December 3, 2008. > It will appear in the main news section. Click here to view a copy > of the final ad. > > http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/#LatestNews -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmigalla at earthlink.net Thu Dec 4 11:08:59 2008 From: rmigalla at earthlink.net (Robin Migalla) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:08:59 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Festival of Lights and Hope Message-ID: <01C955F8.54513BB0.rmigalla@earthlink.net> Hello Everyone, I just wanted to let you know I'm a featured guest in the upcoming Festival of Lights and Hope sponsored by The Optimum Health Studio in Elgin on December 28th. If you'd like to learn more, check out this link... http://westonaprice-elgin.org/files/lightfest.doc If you'd rather not receive these kinds of emails from me, please just reply and let me know. Cheers, Robin From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Thu Dec 4 16:25:59 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:25:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] (Marketwatch) - Mr. Obama's Eligibility to be Aired Monday at the National Press Club Message-ID: <519400.86071.qm@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Mr-Obamas-Eligibility-Aired-Monday/story.aspx?guid=%7B35E191D7-D7BD-4722-BAF1-E6C0CBC18EA3%7D QUEENSBURY, N.Y., Dec 04, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- On Monday, December 8, 2008, at 1:30 pm, the We The People Foundation will conduct a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington D.C. The licensed attorneys who initiated lawsuits in PA (Philip Berg), NJ (Leo Donofrio) and CA (Orly Taitz), challenging Mr. Obama's legal eligibility to hold the Office of President of the United States, will briefly summarize the facts, legal arguments and status of their cases. They will answer questions from the press. Prior to the start of the conference, at 10 am, the Supreme Court of the United States is expected to announce whether it will consider applications from these attorneys who have asked the Court to delay the proceedings of the Electoral College pending a determination of the underlying constitutional question - the meaning of the "natural born citizen" clause of Article II of the Constitution and its application to Mr. Obama. Robert Schulz will briefly discuss Mr. Obama's response to the publication of his Open Letter in the Chicago Tribune on Monday and Wednesday of this week. For the reasons given in the Open Letter, Schulz asked Mr. Obama to: (1) immediately authorize Hawaiian officials to provide a team of forensic scientists access to his original ("vault") birth certificate and (2) arrange for the delivery of other documents needed to conclusively establish Obama's citizenship status. Mr. Schulz will answer questions from the press. "Under our Constitution, no one is eligible to assume the Office of the President unless he or she is a 'natural born citizen,'" said Bob Schulz, Chairman of the Foundation. "To date, Mr. Obama has refused all requests to release his original birth certificate or other documents that would definitively establish his citizenship status and thus his constitutional eligibility." The Open Letter to Mr. Obama summarizes the evidence against Mr. Obama and the adverse consequences that would befall the Nation should he assume the Office of the President as a usurper. "Should the state members of the Electoral College cast their votes for Mr. Obama in the face of such overwhelming evidence, and without verification of Mr. Obama's eligibility, they would be committing treason to the Constitution," said Schulz. www.WeThePeopleFoundation.org From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Thu Dec 4 19:27:21 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:27:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] =?utf-8?q?Leaked_Memos_Reveal_Holder=E2=80=99s_In?= =?utf-8?q?volvement_In_OKC_Murder_Cover-Up?= Message-ID: <666120.59985.qm@web30004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> December 3, 2008 Alex Jones talks with former United States Marine and lawyer Jesse Trentadue who is attempting to uncover the cause of his brother?s death. Kenny Trentadue was murdered in a federal penitentiary after he was mistaken for Richard Guthrie, who was allegedly involved in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. http://www.radiodujour.com/people/trentadue_jesse/ http://www.prisonplanet.com/leaked-memos-reveal-holders-involvement-in-okc-murder-cover-up.html From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Fri Dec 5 09:55:27 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:55:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] LA Times - Supreme Court deliberates Obama Citizenship today Message-ID: <840410.93431.qm@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Supreme Court today deliberates suit blocking Obama presidency It may come as something of a shock to those millions planning trips to Washington for the Jan. 20 inauguration of President-elect Barack Obama that he isn't really legally capable of taking the oath. It's the birth certificate thing. That's because he was born in Kenya to an alien father and isn't a natural-born American as the Constitution requires and the copy of his Hawaii birth certificate looks fake to many and the state won't release the original, which makes everything that much more suspicious. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/12/obama-birth-cer.html From r.gillam at comcast.net Fri Dec 5 10:55:17 2008 From: r.gillam at comcast.net (Ragen Gillam) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:55:17 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Good Article Message-ID: <20081205155510.3B2DB6DC55@six.pairlist.net> From: From: http://www.alternet.org/environment/108481/zombie_economics:_don't_bail_out_ the_system_that_gave_us_suvs_and_strip_malls/ Zombie Economics: Don't Bail out the System that Gave Us SUVs and Strip Malls By James Howard Kunstler - November 25, 2008 Why squander our remaining resources on a lifestyle that doesn't have a future? Though Citicorp is deemed too big to fail, it's hardly reassuring to know that it's been allowed to sink its fangs into the Mother Zombie that the U.S. Treasury has become and sucked out a multibillion dollar dose of embalming fluid so it can go on pretending to be a bank for a while longer. I employ this somewhat clunky metaphor to point out that the U.S. government is no more solvent than the financial zombies it is keeping on walking-dead support. And so this serial mummery of weekend bailout schemes is as much of a fraud and a swindle as the algorithm-derived-securities shenanigans that induced the disease of bank zombification in the first place. The main question it raises is whether, eventually, the creation of evermore zombified U.S. dollars will exceed the amount of previously created U.S. dollars now vanishing into oblivion through compressive debt deflation. My guess, given the usual time-lag factor, is that the super-inflation snapback will occur 6 to 18 months from now. And the main result of all this will be our inability to buy the imported oil that comprises two-thirds of the oil we require to keep WalMart and Walt Disney World running. At some point, then, in the early months of the Obama administration, we'll learn that "change" is not a set of mere lifestyle choices but a wrenching transition away from all our familiar and comfortable habits into a stark and rigorous new economic landscape. The credit economy is dead, and the dead credit residue of that dead economy is going where dead things go. It came into the world as "money," and it is going out of this world as a death-dealing disease, and we're not going to get over this disease until we stop generating additional zombie money out of no productive activity whatsoever. The campaign to sustain the unsustainable is, besides war, the greatest pitfall this society can stumble into. It represents a squandering of our remaining scant resources and can only produce the kind of extreme political disappointment that wrecks nations and leads to major conflicts between them. I don't know how much Mr. Obama buys into the current adopt-a-zombie program -- his Treasury designee, Timothy Geithner, was apparently in on this weekend's Citicorp deal -- but the president-elect would be wise to steer clear of whatever the walking dead in the Bush corner are still up to. All the activities based on getting something for nothing are dead or dying now, in particular, buying houses and cars on credit, and so it should not be a surprise that the two major victims are the housing and car industries. Notice, by the way, that these are the two major ingredients of an economy based on building suburban sprawl. That's over, too. We're done building it, and the stuff we've already built is destined to lose both money value and usefulness as the wrenching transition goes forward. All this obviously begs the question: What kind of economy are we going to live in if the old one is toast? Well, it's also pretty obvious that it will have to be based on activities productively aimed at keeping human beings alive in an ecology that has a future. Once you grasp this, you will see that there is no reason to despair and more than enough for all of us to do, so we can recover from the zombie nation disease and get on with the next chapter of American history -- and I sure hope that Mr. Obama will get with the new program. To be specific about this new economy, we're going to have to make things again, and raise things out of the earth, locally, and trade these things for money of some kind that we earn through our own productive activities. Don't make the mistake of thinking this is optional. The only other option is to go through a violent sociopolitical convulsion. We ought to know from prior examples in world history that this is not a desirable experience. So, to avoid that, we really have to put our shoulders to the wheel and get to work on things that matter, and do it at a scale that is consistent with what the world really has to offer right now, especially in terms of available energy. In my view -- and I know this is controversial -- a much larger proportion of the U.S. population will have to be employed in growing the food we eat. There are many ways of arranging this, some more fair than others, and I hope the better angels of our nature steer us in the direction of fairness and justice. The prospects of a devalued dollar imply that we very shortly will not be able to get the all the oil-and-gas-based "inputs" that have made petro-agriculture possible the past century. The consequences of this are so unthinkable that we have not been thinking about it. And, of course, the further implications of current land-use allocation, and the property-ownership issues entailed, suggests formidable difficulties in rearranging the farming sector. The sooner we face all this, the better. CLIP - Please read the rest at http://www.alternet.org/environment/108481/zombie_economics:_don't_bail_out_ the_system_that_gave_us_suvs_and_strip_malls/ <> <> <> <> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hal at drxyzzy.org Fri Dec 5 21:16:04 2008 From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:16:04 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] noise machine [was: ...Supreme Court deliberates Obama Citizenship...] In-Reply-To: <840410.93431.qm@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <840410.93431.qm@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <23769E11-BE05-4779-949F-E125144B78C4@drxyzzy.org> Present challenges to Obama's citizenship have a lot in common with classic noise machine / echo chamber attacks. See David Brock's "The Republican Noise Machine" or the recent bio of Lee Atwater on PBS. The objective of a Noise Machine attack is not so much to win the argument at hand, as to spread a damaging story as far as it will go. It starts on the fringes with the likes of Corsi and the freepers. From there the next stop is Drudge and/or WorldNetDaily, then on to Limbaugh and the shock jocks, then Fox (not sure this issue is going that far), and finally the so-called main stream. The goal is to undermine the popular mandate and derail progressive initiatives by means of distraction and character assassination. The more the story is echoed, the more it chews away at its target. As Naomi Klein points out, it's not just the message that matters, it's the amplification. On Dec 5, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Edward Rynearson wrote: > Supreme Court today deliberates suit blocking Obama presidency > It may come as something of a shock to those millions planning > trips to Washington for the Jan. 20 inauguration of President-elect > Barack Obama that he isn't really legally capable of taking the oath. > > It's the birth certificate thing. > > That's because he was born in Kenya to an alien father and isn't a > natural-born American as the Constitution requires and the copy of > his Hawaii birth certificate looks fake to many and the state won't > release the original, which makes everything that much more > suspicious. > > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/12/obama-birth- > cer.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aroyboy44 at hotmail.com Fri Dec 5 23:12:55 2008 From: aroyboy44 at hotmail.com (andrew ritter) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:12:55 +0000 Subject: [CitizensTruth] noise machine [was: ...Supreme Court deliberates Obama Citizenship...] In-Reply-To: <23769E11-BE05-4779-949F-E125144B78C4@drxyzzy.org> References: <840410.93431.qm@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <23769E11-BE05-4779-949F-E125144B78C4@drxyzzy.org> Message-ID: Thanks Hal, it also serves to distract us from little things like our money being stolen and more Iraqi's dying and a likely false flag operation in India and the coming financial meltdown and pending terrorist attack that Biden promised will happen From: hal at drxyzzy.org Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:16:04 -0600 To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net Subject: [CitizensTruth] noise machine [was: ...Supreme Court deliberates Obama Citizenship...] Present challenges to Obama's citizenship have a lot in common with classic noise machine / echo chamber attacks. See David Brock's "The Republican Noise Machine" or the recent bio of Lee Atwater on PBS. The objective of a Noise Machine attack is not so much to win the argument at hand, as to spread a damaging story as far as it will go. It starts on the fringes with the likes of Corsi and the freepers. From there the next stop is Drudge and/or WorldNetDaily, then on to Limbaugh and the shock jocks, then Fox (not sure this issue is going that far), and finally the so-called main stream. The goal is to undermine the popular mandate and derail progressive initiatives by means of distraction and character assassination. The more the story is echoed, the more it chews away at its target. As Naomi Klein points out, it's not just the message that matters, it's the amplification. On Dec 5, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Edward Rynearson wrote:Supreme Court today deliberates suit blocking Obama presidencyIt may come as something of a shock to those millions planning trips to Washington for the Jan. 20 inauguration of President-elect Barack Obama that he isn't really legally capable of taking the oath. It's the birth certificate thing. That's because he was born in Kenya to an alien father and isn't a natural-born American as the Constitution requires and the copy of his Hawaii birth certificate looks fake to many and the state won't release the original, which makes everything that much more suspicious. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/12/obama-birth-cer.html _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardfobes at hotmail.com Sat Dec 6 12:41:55 2008 From: richardfobes at hotmail.com (Richard Fobes) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:41:55 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Come And Protest Obama's Pro-War Policies In Chicago On Dec. 13th and Dec. 14 Message-ID: In one week, the World Can't Wait, Lone Lantern-Chicago 9/11 Truth, and several other groups will be protesting Obama's pro-war policies. We are demonstrating on Saturday, December 13, 1pm, at the Federal Plaza in downtown Chicago at President-Elect Obama's current headquarters. On Sunday, December 14, at Noon, we will be demonstrating and marching around Obama's neighborhood in Hyde Park. I invite you to come on down if possible. This is going to be the last time that Obama will be here in Chicago before he's off to Washington D.C. Organizers have invited speakers on the topic of 9/11 Truth as well on Saturday. This is good. We are sending Obama and his administration that 9/11 TRUTH is an issue that is never going away until our questions are answered and the TRUTH comes out! 9/11 TRUTH ENDS WARS. Saturday, December 13, 1pm, Federal Plaza (Adams and Dearborn), Chicago IL: http://www.meetup.com/lonelantern/calendar/9284812/ Sunday, December 14, noon, Obama's neighborhood in Hyde Park, 5100 S. Drexel, Chicago IL: http://www.meetup.com/lonelantern/calendar/9291457/ Hope you can make it!! -Rich Chicago, IL _________________________________________________________________ Suspicious message? There?s an alert for that. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad2_122008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Sat Dec 6 13:32:03 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:32:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] CitizensTruth Digest, Vol 41, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <911884.95825.qm@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Here's what it boils down to for me. There are two documents in this case. The "certificate of live birth" that Obama sent to Annenburg's FactCheck.org and the actual "vault birth certificate" that is being kept sealed by the state of Hawaii. The noise machine in this case is the Obama camp and their fleet of lawyers. Rather than release the actual birth certificate, they released a computer generated document printed out on state stationary. So when people say that Obama did release his birth certficate and that experts validated it . . . that is "noise". This case is still in the Supreme Court. It is in the hands of Justice Clarence Thomas. There is the possibility (remote) that they could get involved. It is a big stoy. Here's a link to google searching for "Supreme Court Obama" http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=supreme+court+obama I've always voted Democrat up until this season where I supported both Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich in the primaries and ended up voted for the Green Party. I hope that Obama is the greatest president that we've ever had. So far, by the people he's appointing it looks like more of the same rather than change. Until we free ourselves from the international banking cabal (insert ad hominems here) that daddy Bush called, "The New World Order", there will be no change. Peace Ed Rynearson http://www.radiodujour.com --- On Sat, 12/6/08, citizenstruth-request at six.pairlist.net wrote: > From: citizenstruth-request at six.pairlist.net > Subject: CitizensTruth Digest, Vol 41, Issue 7 > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 11:00 AM > Send CitizensTruth mailing list submissions to > citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > citizenstruth-request at six.pairlist.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > citizenstruth-owner at six.pairlist.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of CitizensTruth digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. noise machine [was: ...Supreme Court > deliberates Obama > Citizenship...] (Hal Snyder) > 2. Re: noise machine [was: ...Supreme Court > deliberates Obama > Citizenship...] (andrew ritter) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:16:04 -0600 > From: Hal Snyder > Subject: [CitizensTruth] noise machine [was: ...Supreme > Court > deliberates Obama Citizenship...] > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > Message-ID: > <23769E11-BE05-4779-949F-E125144B78C4 at drxyzzy.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; > Format="flowed"; > DelSp="yes" > > Present challenges to Obama's citizenship have a lot in > common with > classic noise machine / echo chamber attacks. See David > Brock's "The > Republican Noise Machine" or the recent bio of Lee > Atwater on PBS. > > The objective of a Noise Machine attack is not so much to > win the > argument at hand, as to spread a damaging story as far as > it will go. > It starts on the fringes with the likes of Corsi and the > freepers. > From there the next stop is Drudge and/or WorldNetDaily, > then on to > Limbaugh and the shock jocks, then Fox (not sure this issue > is going > that far), and finally the so-called main stream. > > The goal is to undermine the popular mandate and derail > progressive > initiatives by means of distraction and character > assassination. The > more the story is echoed, the more it chews away at its > target. As > Naomi Klein points out, it's not just the message that > matters, it's > the amplification. > > > On Dec 5, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Edward Rynearson wrote: > > > Supreme Court today deliberates suit blocking Obama > presidency > > It may come as something of a shock to those millions > planning > > trips to Washington for the Jan. 20 inauguration of > President-elect > > Barack Obama that he isn't really legally capable > of taking the oath. > > > > It's the birth certificate thing. > > > > That's because he was born in Kenya to an alien > father and isn't a > > natural-born American as the Constitution requires and > the copy of > > his Hawaii birth certificate looks fake to many and > the state won't > > release the original, which makes everything that much > more > > suspicious. > > > > > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/12/obama-birth- > > > cer.html > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:12:55 +0000 > From: andrew ritter > Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] noise machine [was: ...Supreme > Court > deliberates Obama Citizenship...] > To: Hal Snyder , truth seekers > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Thanks Hal, > > it also serves to distract us from little things like our > money being stolen and more Iraqi's dying and a likely > false flag operation in India and the coming financial > meltdown and pending terrorist attack that Biden promised > will happen > > > > From: hal at drxyzzy.org > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:16:04 -0600 > To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net > Subject: [CitizensTruth] noise machine [was: ...Supreme > Court deliberates Obama Citizenship...] > > Present challenges to Obama's citizenship have a lot in > common with classic noise machine / echo chamber attacks. > See David Brock's "The Republican Noise > Machine" or the recent bio of Lee Atwater on PBS. > The objective of a Noise Machine attack is not so much to > win the argument at hand, as to spread a damaging story as > far as it will go. It starts on the fringes with the likes > of Corsi and the freepers. From there the next stop is > Drudge and/or WorldNetDaily, then on to Limbaugh and the > shock jocks, then Fox (not sure this issue is going that > far), and finally the so-called main stream. > The goal is to undermine the popular mandate and derail > progressive initiatives by means of distraction and > character assassination. The more the story is echoed, the > more it chews away at its target. As Naomi Klein points out, > it's not just the message that matters, it's the > amplification. > > On Dec 5, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Edward Rynearson wrote:Supreme > Court today deliberates suit blocking Obama presidencyIt may > come as something of a shock to those millions planning > trips to Washington for the Jan. 20 inauguration of > President-elect Barack Obama that he isn't really > legally capable of taking the oath. > It's the birth certificate thing. > That's because he was born in Kenya to an alien father > and isn't a natural-born American as the Constitution > requires and the copy of his Hawaii birth certificate looks > fake to many and the state won't release the original, > which makes everything that much more suspicious. > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/12/obama-birth-cer.html > _________________________________________________________________ > Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. > http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > CitizensTruth mailing list > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > > > End of CitizensTruth Digest, Vol 41, Issue 7 > ******************************************** From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Sat Dec 6 17:46:14 2008 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:46:14 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Chicago: 200 workers occupy factory Message-ID: <493B00B6.9070806@mailbag.com> **200 workers occupy factory* * Laid-off workers demanding severance stage mass Chicago sit-in. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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RIGHT ON to these workers! We need to get there and support them... wish I was close enough to bring sleeping bags/blankets/food... maybe someone can contact Food Not Bombs, yes? And can WCW-Chicago support? This makes me really, really happy. Smells like resistance to me :) Janice in Kansas! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FLASH! Radio Free Kansas Alert! FLASH! Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:10:21 -0600 From: Michael Caddell To: bluebarnnewscentral at gmail.com *Here's Some "Change" You Can Do Something About!* ** Angry workers who were denied pay and benefits by Bank of America (who received federal bailout funds) at a Chicago factory have seized it and refuse to leave. Urgent pleas for blankets (the heat is being turned off as you receive this email), hot coffee and food are being issued. Police are patrolling, but haven't made attempts to oust the workers. Here are some contacts for helping them out. *Vigil/solidarity rally for Republic Windows Workers! Noon, Saturday, December Republic Windows & Doors 1333 N. Hickory On Goose Island, near the intersection of Division & Clyborn * More info: Mark of the UE at 773 405 3022 (312) 502-7867 - Jerry Mead-Lucero, Labor Beat Spread the word! Media links: Workers stage sit-in over money owed to them - Chi Town Daily News Workers protest layoffs ABC 7 Chicago (WLS) "We Aren't Animals" - Fired Employees Stage Sit-In - NBC Chicago Plant Closing Leads to Sit-In - Chicago Public Radio Republic workers say they're not leaving without pay - Chi Town Daily News Workers occupy closed factory - UPI UE Members in Chicago Need Our Help! - UE More news to follow tonight on Radio Free Kansas tonight beginning at 8pm (central)! to listen in click the word "blogtalkradio" on any of the sites listed below Live Callers 646-716-8652 -- "It's a fool who looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart" - Ulysses Everett McGill "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" The Flyer's Daily Ticker http://fightincockflyer.blogspot.com The Nortonville Sun http://nortonvillesun.blogspot.com Discomfit Magazine http://discomfit.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Sun Dec 7 02:49:30 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:49:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] To President-elect Barack Obama - From Citizen Berryhill Message-ID: <397475.18222.qm@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To President-elect Barack Obama - From Citizen Berryhill "Mr. President-elect, surely you know that there is a 'tempest in the teapot' brewing regarding the vault version of your birth certificate. And, only you, Sir, can bring closure to this issue. Mr. Obama, show your birth certificate for the sake of all the people who supported and voted for you... and, also to quiet (once, and for all) the skeptics, naysayers, and people who deem your Presidency 'illegitmate'" Mrs. Berryhill, a 2007 Jefferson Public Service Award winner, also received the prestigious Presidential Service Award in 2006. She is married to Rev. C.L. Berryhill, Jr. http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=11061 From hal at drxyzzy.org Sun Dec 7 09:49:14 2008 From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 08:49:14 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Barack Obama and the changing dynamic [was: ... From Citizen Berryhill] In-Reply-To: <397475.18222.qm@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <397475.18222.qm@web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A couple weeks ago there was a debate at the annual World Can't Wait / Drive Out the Bush Regime conference, arguing pro and con whether Barack Obama is a leader we can "work with". The event was well attended and reflects a present challenge. Among people who work at staying informed and who feel deeply betrayed by a system that allowed the malevolence of the departing regime, Obama's victory raises a question where we put our energies now. A split is happening. One way to describe it is, people who are called to continue dissent vs. people who see a fundamental shift and are called to work within the new system. Many of us feel some pull in both directions. I watched Barack Obama's Dec 6 video address at http://change.gov and looked over the invitations to participate. I see a huge difference from the last 8 years. I spent much of yesterday with a group of organizers in the IL 8th and 10th US Congressional Districts strategizing how best to get affordable health care for every man, woman, and child in this country. The energy was palpable. The ideas were specific and constructive. I'm there. Hal On Dec 7, 2008, at 1:49 AM, Edward Rynearson wrote: > To President-elect Barack Obama - From Citizen Berryhill > > "Mr. President-elect, surely you know that there is a 'tempest in > the teapot' brewing regarding the vault version of your birth > certificate. And, only you, Sir, can bring closure to this issue. > Mr. Obama, show your birth certificate for the sake of all the > people who supported and voted for you... and, also to quiet (once, > and for all) the skeptics, naysayers, and people who deem your > Presidency 'illegitmate'" > > Mrs. Berryhill, a 2007 Jefferson Public Service Award winner, also > received the prestigious Presidential Service Award in 2006. She is > married to Rev. C.L. Berryhill, Jr. > > http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=11061 From futurenotwritten at yahoo.com Sun Dec 7 11:46:35 2008 From: futurenotwritten at yahoo.com (Jay Becker) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 08:46:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Fw: [M20all] Photos: Workers Occupy Republic Factory in Chicago Message-ID: <505984.50236.qm@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Declare It Now! Wear Orange! Impeach Bush & Cheney for War Crimes & Crimes against Humanity! --- On Sat, 12/6/08, DickReilly at aol.com wrote: From: DickReilly at aol.com Subject: [M20all] Photos: Workers Occupy Republic Factory in Chicago To: ChiAntiWar at yahoogroups.com Cc: CCAWRdiscussion at ccawr.org, Red1pearl at aol.com, m20all at m20coalition.net, redjerry2 at yahoo.com Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:16 PM Click on image for a larger version by the workers themselves. Click on image for a larger version Click on image for a larger version Click on image for a larger version Click on image for a larger version Click on image for a larger version ? Additional Photo Galleries at : http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswire/display/84884/index.php?] ? Photos: Workers Occupy Republic Factory in Chicago Christine Geovanis, Chicago Independent Media Center ? Hundreds of people gathered Saturday afternoon at the Republic Windows factory on Chicago's Goose Island to lend their solidarity to Republic workers, who occupied the plant on Friday. The workers have vowed to continue the occupation until they are paid back pay and benefits, or until the plant is re-opened -- by the owners or by the workers themselves. On Tuesday, the owners announced that because Bank of America has cut their credit line, the factory would be shuttered and all workers laid off on Friday -- without federally and state-mandated notice, severance pay and benefits. The workers instead voted to take over the plant, and have vowed to occupy the factory floor until the company pays them the money they're owed. Bank of America received $25 billion in federal bailout money earlier this fall, despite pointing out at the time that they were not in financial need. Since the bailout began, BOA -- like other big banks across the globe -- has slashed essential credit lines to manufacturing and service businesses, forcing a growing number of small and medium-sized companies to shut down. The action at Republic Windows comes on the heels of a workers' campaign at the plant to kick out the company union, which had colluded with company owners and management for years. That effort succeeded after three years of struggle, and workers have vowed to take that fighting spirit of solidarity to the wall with the factory occupation, as well. Republic Windows' worker occupation is one of the first actions of its kind in the United States since the Great Depression, when a wave of worker seizures of factories and manufacturing operations marked one of the most militant phases in U.S. labor history. Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. 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Need Your Immediate Support!* Yesterday, Friday December 5th, the workers of Republic Windows and Doors occupied their factory, which was due to close at 10:00 AM. The workers are fighting for pay for their lost vacation days and for the 75 days notice that they are guaranteed under Illinois law. This is the first time in many years workers have taken the bold, militant strategy of occupying their place of work to demand justice. The plan to occupy the plant until the hear the results of the next round of negotiations Monday afternoon. THEY NEED TO KNOW THEY HAVE OUR SUPPORT! A prayer vigil has been planned for 12:00 Noon, Saturday December 6th. Please attend. BUT WE SHOULD ORGANIZE A CONSTANT PRESENCE OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS PICKETING OUTSIDE THE FACTORY! BRING FOOD AND COFFEE FOR THE WORKERS. It is our presence and the press that is the workers best defense against the police raiding the factory. These workers are fighting for all of us!!! As the economic crisis deepens we need to launch a working class fight back. These workers are the starting point and deserve our full support. Go to: Republic Windows & Doors 1333 N. Hickory On Goose Island, near the intersection of Division & Clybourn Feel free to call me for more info? (312) 502-7867 (Message written by Jerry Mead-Lucero, www.laborexpress.org) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the web address below to tell your friends about this. Tell-a-friend! If you received this message from a friend, you can sign up for Chicago Jobs With Justice . This message was sent to kklcac at earthlink.net. Visit your subscription management page to modify your email communication preferences or update your personal profile. To stop ALL email from Chicago Jobs With Justice, click to remove yourself from our lists (or reply via email with "remove or unsubscribe" in the subject line). From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Mon Dec 8 07:15:14 2008 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:15:14 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Chemicals eliminating males & rendering males sterile throughout nature: London Independent Message-ID: <493D0FD2.3080409@mailbag.com> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/its-official-men-really-are-the-weaker-sex-1055688.html Girls, hang on to your...er, it's getting lonelier out there... It's official: Men really are the weaker sex Evolution is being distorted by pollution, which damages genitals and the ability to father offspring, says new study. Geoffrey Lean reports /Sunday, 7 December 2008 / The male gender is in danger, with incalculable consequences for both humans and wildlife, startling scientific research from around the world reveals. The research -- to be detailed tomorrow in the most comprehensive report yet published -- shows that a host of common chemicals is feminising males of every class of vertebrate animals, from fish to mammals, including people. Backed by some of the world's leading scientists, who say that it "waves a red flag" for humanity and shows that evolution itself is being disrupted, the report comes out at a particularly sensitive time for ministers. On Wednesday, Britain will lead opposition to proposed new European controls on pesticides, many of which have been found to have "gender-bending" effects. It also follows hard on the heels of new American research which shows that baby boys...Full Story -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Mon Dec 8 07:38:36 2008 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:38:36 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] More coverage on Chicago Factory Occupation By Laid-off Workers Message-ID: <493D154C.7030107@mailbag.com> Workers Occupy Factory in Chicago http://www.truthout.org/120708C Rupa Shenoy, The Associated Press: "Workers who got three days' notice their factory was shutting its doors voted to occupy the building and say they won't go home without assurances they'll get severance and vacation pay they say they are owed. In the second day of a sit-in on the factory floor Saturday, about 200 union workers occupied the building in shifts while union leaders outside criticized a Wall Street bailout they say is leaving laborers behind. About 50 workers sat on pallets and chairs inside the Republic Windows and Doors plant. Leah Fried, an organizer with the United Electrical Workers, said the Chicago-based vinyl window manufacturer failed to give 60 days' notice required by law before shutting down." From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Mon Dec 8 08:13:48 2008 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 07:13:48 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Tribune Co. - owner Chicago Tribune & LA Times on edge of bankruptcy? Message-ID: <493D1D8C.1000807@mailbag.com> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/08/business/media/08tribune.html From r.gillam at comcast.net Mon Dec 8 11:28:06 2008 From: r.gillam at comcast.net (Ragen Gillam) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:28:06 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Chemicals eliminating males & rendering males sterile throughout nature: London Independent In-Reply-To: <493D0FD2.3080409@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <20081208162814.41F226A9EA@six.pairlist.net> Watch this video for further information on this subject: Click here: informationliberation - The Disappearing Male _____ From: citizenstruth-bounces at six.pairlist.net [mailto:citizenstruth-bounces at six.pairlist.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Stafford Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:15 AM To: IL Progressive Dems; AB_Progressives; Progressive; DiehardDems at yahoogroups.com; Citizen's Truth Subject: [CitizensTruth] Chemicals eliminating males & rendering males sterile throughout nature: London Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/its-official-men-really-are-the-we aker-sex-1055688.html Girls, hang on to your...er, it's getting lonelier out there... It's official: Men really are the weaker sex Evolution is being distorted by pollution, which damages genitals and the ability to father offspring, says new study. Geoffrey Lean reports Sunday, 7 December 2008 The male gender is in danger, with incalculable consequences for both humans and wildlife, startling scientific research from around the world reveals. The research - to be detailed tomorrow in the most comprehensive report yet published - shows that a host of common chemicals is feminising males of every class of vertebrate animals, from fish to mammals, including people. Backed by some of the world's leading scientists, who say that it "waves a red flag" for humanity and shows that evolution itself is being disrupted, the report comes out at a particularly sensitive time for ministers. On Wednesday, Britain will lead opposition to proposed new European controls on pesticides, many of which have been found to have "gender-bending" effects. 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URL: From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Mon Dec 8 20:57:02 2008 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:57:02 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Compassionate Community... Message-ID: <493DD06E.4000106@mailbag.com> /*Compassionate Community...*/ As the layoffs and rumors fly, Hopes and dreams are thin, Resources even thinner, Hand to helping hand, Remember "united we stand," Because divided we fall. The neighbor who lost their job - and internet, Has no fuel to drive to search, Give a few minutes on the web, Job-hunting and State aid sites are great, If you can find them, Or will our poets fall off line one-by-one? We have all these back yards of grass we have to water, When out-of-work neighbors can pull weeds in all that garden space, As grocery stores are harder to visit, Canning parties next fall sound delicious, When compared to shoe leather boiled in grief sauce. A neighborhood Captain maybe, Or better a Yahoo list to go along with Craig's, Sharing time and resources in exchange for food, Village projects for solar heaters and hot water, First to those who need utility assistance, Then for the rest of us who learn "waste not - want not" first hand. The time has come my friends, To know your neighbors, Trade a little help for a bit of work 'round the house, Supporting those still working, So they can support those unemployed, Grease the local wheels first, Keep the tall from falling too fast and hard. It's all of us in the end - salvation from on high may be slow. AquarianM By: Daniel A. Stafford Who Cares About Copyright On This - 12/08/2008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From futurenotwritten at yahoo.com Tue Dec 9 10:11:46 2008 From: futurenotwritten at yahoo.com (Jay Becker) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 07:11:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Two important protests tomorrow! Message-ID: <133075.81389.qm@web33508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> PLEASE FORWARD - Two important protests for anyone in the Loop tomorrow, or anyone who can be there: The Republic Windows and Doors rally originally scheduled for tomorrow (Tuesday), was postponed to 12 noon, Wednesday to Bank of America at 231 S. LaSalle, Chicago. ? FYI, the "Day Without a Gay" protest against Prop 8 (and to demand equal marriage rights in Illinois) is at 11 AM sharp on Wednesday in front of the County/City Building, 118 N. Clark Street.? After that demo (finishing at about noon), the group will march over to 231 S. LaSalle to support the Republic workers. Declare It Now! Wear Orange! Impeach Bush & Cheney for War Crimes & Crimes against Humanity! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Tue Dec 9 12:50:15 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:50:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Regarding: Supreme Court Refuses To Review Obama Citizenship Case: Message-ID: <20831.26350.qm@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Regarding: Supreme Court Refuses To Review Obama Citizenship Case: http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20081208/493ca9d0_3ca6_1552620081208753694964 "At least one other appeal over Obama's citizenship remains at the court. Philip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa., argues that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as Obama says and the Hawaii secretary of state has confirmed. Berg says Obama also may be a citizen of Indonesia, where he lived as a boy. Federal courts in Pennsylvania have dismissed Berg's lawsuit." There were hundreds of similiar news releasese with the same headline. Nearly all of them qualify with the paragraph above. The Berg case is still alive. But if you don't read past the headlines, you wouldn't know that. If you just saw the TV report of Bush landing on the aircraft carrier, you would think that he was some kind of pilot. They count on us not looking past the headline. Berg's case may be history also by now, but that doesn't invalidate my point. Horrible journalism abounds. http://www.radiodujour.com/people/berg_philip From mincam2 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 9 13:39:44 2008 From: mincam2 at yahoo.com (Chuck Minne) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 10:39:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Synthetic biology - Engineered bacteria create high-energy biofuel In-Reply-To: <133075.81389.qm@web33508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <573672.2528.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ? Engineered bacteria create high-energy biofuel ? Altered microbes make an alcohol not produced naturally ? By Patrick Barry Web edition : Monday, December 8th, 2008 ? ? Researchers have designed an entire molecular ?assembly line? in bacterial cells that pieces together a kind of alcohol that isn?t normally made by known living organisms. This alcohol could serve as a biofuel that, unlike ethanol, has a high energy density and could be used in gasoline and jet fuel. ? While the engineered bacteria are not yet efficient enough to produce biofuel on a commercial scale, the work shows that microbes can be designed to make chemicals that are beyond life?s natural repertoire, the researchers report online December 8 in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. ? ?Previous metabolic engineering work typically produces compounds that already exist in nature,? says coauthor James Liao, a biomolecular engineer at the University of California, Los Angeles. ?Our work here aims to produce compounds that are not synthesized in nature.? ? Since the 1970s, scientists have been able to alter cells by inserting a foreign gene into cells? DNA. That gene carries the genetic code for a protein ? perhaps human insulin or a protein that makes plants resistant to pests ? that the cells? machinery will then produce. ? But this engineering approach only works for making proteins, which are large, complex molecules. To make small molecules such as alcohols, cells normally use several proteins as the ?robots? in an assembly line that, step by step, converts some other molecule into the desired alcohol. ? Liao and his colleagues designed three ?robot? proteins that extended metabolic assembly lines in the bacterium E. coli so that it could make relatively large alcohol molecules. When the team inserted the artificial genes encoding those proteins into the bacteria, the bacteria produced alcohols containing between five and eight carbon atoms ? ethanol contains only two. Larger alcohol molecules contain more energy than smaller ones and are also easier to separate from the water in which the bacteria live, an important consideration for large-scale industrial production. ? Designing artificial genes to make all the robots for such an assembly line is far more difficult than just inserting single genes from different species. This more ambitious form of genetic engineering is often called metabolic engineering, part of a broader field called synthetic biology. ? The research is ?a major development in synthetic biology, and a marvelous demonstration of how engineering of organisms can be put to practical use,? comments James Collins, a bioengineer at Boston University. ? Physical catalysts can also make similar, large alcohol molecules from plant sugars, but Liao says that a biological approach has some advantages. ?Biological ways are usually more specific and better controlled. In addition, the biological reaction conditions are at a lower temperature ? 30 to 37 degrees Celsius ? and lower pressure, as opposed to typical chemical conversions which occur at high temperatures.? ? Collins adds that ?you just basically feed the bacteria and keep them happy and they chug along and do all the biochemistry.? ?These larger bioalcohols could also serve as a renewable feedstock for the chemical industry, Liao says, which currently uses petroleum as a starting material for making everything from plastics to fertilizers ? ? Congress asking the bankers where all the bailout money went. ? River and Ocean currents can power the world say U. of Michigan scientists ? See the video ? ?Education is that which discloses to the wise and disguises from the foolish their lack of understanding.? (Ambrose Bierce) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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David Whyte is an English poet and apparently a prophet too. Thoughts on the Creativity of Winter Outside my window the wintry English fields spread, as they have for centuries to the dark, smoke blue line of woods that limit the horizon of the valley. A bright fire burns in the grate to my left, while outside I can hear the call of a barn owl cutting the still, even air. All is exactly as it has been for many a hundred year in these Cotswold hills where I happily find myself this winter's day. Everything from horizon to horizon is eternal and quiet and seemingly unchangeable - except, that is, for one tiny but extraordinary portal I can open on this laptop to a parallel world of web-borne news, a world supposedly more real than the quiet one I inhabit this cold but beautiful evening. With a few clicks, I can enter an astonishing world of worry, anxiety and for many individuals, and indeed whole societies, material hardship, brought on by the cessation of credit. Out of the hermetic silence of a quiet winter day I can take a few short steps and almost touch the sense of panic and the extraordinary breakdown in trust that has stopped the flow of currency from one person to another, one bank to another one society to another. It is as if the cold hands of this financial season have touched every last monetary stream and rivulet, and frozen them over. It is winter here in the countryside with all its well-loved beauties, but out in the world of money, it is winter with another form of terrible beauty, the winter of disappearance, immobility, and the worry fret and anxiety that comes from seeming to have very little shelter from its effects. It is always a trauma for the human psyche when those elements it has over-invested itself in at the periphery of life are withdrawn, and the spring-like world of growth and opportunity seems to close down, as if the old currencies have become worthless while we as yet do not know how to value or harvest the following season. But this form of trauma has also been seen by many of our great religious, contemplative and artistic traditions as an invitation back to another kind of valuation, a return to a more internal focus, an opportunity to revive an old friendship with the place from which all the peripheries are recognized, priced and named. This internal, alchemical, almost catalytic core of identity-making and decision-making has long been associated with the soul of an individual; the part of us attempting to belong to the world in the biggest way it can; the part that witnesses our outer actions, stirs our conscience and quite often seems to be at odds with those other parts of us trying to game the system at the periphery. It is interesting to think that what may be a financial trauma for the surface personality may be a break for freedom for a more serious, central core of the psyche, the part that understands its own mortality and secretly knows that it will eventually all come to a place where we have to give up on all the peripherals anyway, at that unknown, appointed crossroads when our particular individual life as we know it, comes to an end. In times of difficulty, it is tempting to think that creativity, vision and new possibilities must be put aside simply in order to survive. It is tempting, when the financial tide goes out, to act from a sense of impoverishment; it easy to feel abandoned when the source and sense of our riches are no longer in the summer air but hidden deep in a form of winter potentiality. It is always very hard to understand that the world has shifted to another axis of generosity; one not so readily recognized. When we feel bereft of one form of support we can easily forget that it is because we might be meant to put that particular form of comfort aside and look to a fiercer more internally grounded stage of our maturity, one that might emanate from a simpler but surer ground than the outer sky of mirrors and monetary instruments we might have constructed for ourselves in the so-called real world. It also might be surprising to think that there are just as many forms of courage and creativity associated with disappearance and doing without; just as many satisfying elements of aliveness associated with a winter as with spring. This central, core conversation to which we return in each succeeding winter is both nourishing and deeply disturbing, it seems heedless of any flimsy structures we may have erected, it seems fiery in that it burns familiar things away and yet provides another form of warmth emanating from a more nested, interior hearth. In my experience the first necessity of an individual in finding this fiery, core conversation is a radical form of simplification. To get to the core conversation we have to withdraw from the edges. Whatever expenses we have been making at the margins of our lives in terms of emotions, finances or time-based commitment must be brought back to the central conversation that makes the most sense. Radical simplification often entails a seemingly ruthless withdrawal from secondary involvements, i t also involves simplifying wants and needs to grant us another form of freedom not necessarily involved with the freedom to buy anything we want at any time. Arguments for indiscriminate buying to revive the economy are circular and lock human beings into a never ending cycle of buying goods that are non essential, with everyone encouraged to live beyond their means, to the ultimate dismantling of the natural systems that supply those wants in the first place. The practice of radical simplification, however, might not mean living in a desire-less, enlightened state, but simply catching our desires as close to the centre of our experience as possible. Practically, we can catch a need for an expensive new sports car early on in the process by buying a second hand version of the same, we can catch it even earlier, nearer to the center, by renting one every now and again, without having to go to expense of maintaining it, we can catch it very close in indeed, by attempting to live out directly the very qualities that underlie the desire itself. Without the prop of the car, we might try to cultivate a certain air of freedom as if the wind was always in our hair. The withdrawal from the literal, over- concretized periphery where everything is counterfeiting for something closer in, almost always leaves us dealing in another more imaginative currency at the center. Now that our focus is shifting away from the peripheral bubble of promised riches, we are just beginning to be reminded again of the depths of poverty, both in the developing world and the United States where the social safety net for those in difficulty has been worn almost to nothing. But it is exactly this re evaluation of the periphery and the renewed emphasis on what is essential that will bring spending back from mere baubles to infrastructure and education, back from foreign adventurism to a coherent approach to the sources of terror; in the United States especially there must be an attempt at a better health care system, a more cohesive, less poisonous political conversation and a renewed relationship with a world in desperate need for it to return to its foundational ideals. This new faculty of valuation can be quite disturbing to way we might have priced and measured out our life in the recent, unbalanced, heady times. The road of radical simplification almost always leads to the door of the great and unwanted unknown. The door to begin with seems to open on to nothing we at first can recognize. To enter through that door we have to cultivate what Suzuki Roshi called beginner?s mind, where we stop having to know and name everything in advance and allow ourselves the satisfactions of discovery and revelation. In doing this we actually start to re mould our identity in the form of the learner and listener. Learning, listening and radically simplifying as we go we might have a possibility of opening up that catalytic core where very few elements need combine to create a great deal of new energy. A decision made from this core has enormous leverage on the outer world where we see, hear, work and have relationships. This internal center appears when the outer peripheries have bankrupted themselves, fallen and become a loam that we must plough back to enrich the ground. In the depths of winter under the cold night of wind and stars and shut off from the garden, we look for those hidden and invisible springs that will uncoil, in the still summer air, each new, yet to be imagined rose. From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Mon Dec 15 00:47:35 2008 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:47:35 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Fw: LA silencing public TV In-Reply-To: <322315262-1229184565-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2115987357-@bxe272.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <322315262-1229184565-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2115987357-@bxe272.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <4945EF77.1080306@mailbag.com> Dan Stafford wrote: > See the LA Times article below - has national implications. Very > interest from several perspectives. > > 1. What is the status of local public access here, and could we > effectively use it to reach out to local Progressives? > > Dan > > Words are the mind's bridge - its connection to all the universe. > Love is the heart's bridge - its connection to all other souls. > Loving words can work miracles. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ** > > > > > > http://www.laweekly.com/content/printVersion/410933 > > > > http://zumatimes.com/ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aroyboy44 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 15 01:10:35 2008 From: aroyboy44 at hotmail.com (andrew ritter) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:10:35 +0000 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Bill of Rights Birthday Bash @ Abby Pub Message-ID: Hello Truthers, Here's an event going on in Chicago Tonight (Monday Night), I'm the writer/director and a performer for the comedy portion of the show, hope to see you there! Chicagoans for Civil Liberties presents a Bill of Rights Birthday Bash! Celebrate the Ratification of the Bill of Rights with Poetry, Comedy, Music and Fun December 15, 2008 6-11pm at the Abbey Pub 3420 W Grace St, Chicago, IL 60618 $15 for a full night of entertainment and a buffet proceeds are donated to the Bill of Rights Defense Committee The Birthday Bash includes: + from 6-9pm poets Kevin Coval and Andrea Stevenson the improv/sketch troupe The Posse Billities video artist Eden Roemer + from 9pm on - the House Music band Madd Soul with DJ FLX Kevin Coval is the co-founder of Louder Than a Bomb: The Chicago Teen Poetry Festival, the largest youth poetry festival in the world. Kevin has appeared on Russell Simmons' HBO Def Poetry Jam and is the author ofSlingshots (A Hip-Hop Poetica) and the newly released Everyday People Madd Soul with DJ FLX is a combination of Percussionist Louie-Louie, Trumpeter Micah Frazier, Saxophonist Tommy Bradford performing live with up-tempo guest Chicago House DJ FLX creating a House vibe with Latin and jazz influences. Madd Soul has performed at The Winter Music Conference in Miami and in venues throughout Chicago. The Posse Billities, an Improv/Sketch troupe directed by Andrew Ritter presented by Collective Action Productions, brings to the show Second City experience and Daily Show comedic relevancy. Eden Roemer is a video artist with work shown in Chicagoland venues and on YouTube. 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URL: From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Mon Dec 15 11:49:27 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:49:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Headline reads: Justices won't review Obama's eligibility to serve Message-ID: <574051.10617.qm@web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iHUQU9Oy9bW8w5a5eevJkGvFNtmAD9538E480 But again if you read the AP News Release you will find: "At least two other appeals over Obama's citizenship remain at the court. Philip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa., argues that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as Obama says and Hawaii officials have confirmed." http://www.radiodujour.com/people/berg_philip From futurenotwritten at yahoo.com Tue Dec 16 09:00:31 2008 From: futurenotwritten at yahoo.com (Jay Becker) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:00:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Fw: LA silencing public TV In-Reply-To: <4945EF77.1080306@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <474539.44789.qm@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dan, here in Chicago we have CAN-TV, which airs many progressive events, including a regular (monthly, I believe) 9/11 Truth program. CAN tapes many World Can't Wait programs, forums put on by the National Lawyers Guild, programs at Revolution Books, and many, many others. I watch Democracy Now! on it every weekday morning at 7 am. It's a great resource, but accessible only in the city of Chicago. I believe there's a similar community access channel in Evanston and some other suburbs but I don't know much about them. Jay Declare It Now! Wear Orange! Impeach Bush & Cheney for War Crimes & Crimes against Humanity! --- On Sun, 12/14/08, Daniel Stafford wrote: From: Daniel Stafford Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Fw: LA silencing public TV To: "IL Progressive Dems" , "AB_Progressives" , "Progressive" , DiehardDems at yahoogroups.com, "Citizen's Truth" Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 11:47 PM Dan Stafford wrote: See the LA Times article below - has national implications. Very interest from several perspectives. 1. What is the status of local public access here, and could we effectively use it to reach out to local Progressives? Dan Words are the mind's bridge - its connection to all the universe. Love is the heart's bridge - its connection to all other souls. Loving words can work miracles. ? ? http://www.laweekly.com/content/printVersion/410933 ? http://zumatimes.com/ ? ? _______________________________________________ CitizensTruth mailing list CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth website: http://citizenstruth.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From futurenotwritten at yahoo.com Tue Dec 16 09:03:37 2008 From: futurenotwritten at yahoo.com (Jay Becker) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:03:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Will we have an ANTI-war movement? Message-ID: <490531.78360.qm@web33506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ? The World Can't Wait Stop the Crimes of Your Government Donate | Local Chapters | Store ? Visible action is urgently needed. Plan Now: The USA PATRIOT Act, the Military Commissions Act, and Obama's FISA Act must be repealed; the U.S. torture state must be dismantled, and secret rendition ended. *Visible - orange - protests on Sunday, January 11, the anniversary of Guantanamo. Prosecute the war criminals and STOP the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan! *The first anti-war protest of the Obama administration January 20, 2009, Washington DC, Six Years of Illegitimate War - Resist the Recruiters! *Wednesday, March 18 "We Are Not Your Soldiers" Day of resistance to recruiters; *Thursday March 19: Local protests including school walk-outs. *Saturday March 21: United mass protests. We in World Can't Wait pledge to work with everyone who wants to build an ANTI-war movement.? Real change happens when people take independent action - outside the confines of government and in their own interests. If we want to stop the continued horror of the largest imperialist power on earth dropping bombs, sending death squads and torturers anywhere with impunity - in our names -- the only way is to face up to reality, tell the truth, and get out to the people with the message that we must stop the crimes of our government. Become a sustainer 4Real Change Now... Jay I was at the United for Peace & Justice National Assembly this weekend.? I met some of you there who read this list; and others who were not familiar with World Can't Wait. I worked with others -- mostly peace coalitions from the middle of the country, not in the larger cities -- to get UFPJ to support a united anti-war march in Washington DC on the sixth anniversary of the war, Saturday March 21.? By 111-49, that proposal was defeated, in favor of what UFPJ's program "Yes We Can...End the War" for a Saturday, April 4 march on Wall Street, focusing on the recession. Not to directly challenge Obama's escalation of the war in Afghanistan is shameful.? On the anniversary of "Shock & Awe," and under a new president, the anti-war movement needs to be in Washington.? And many of us WILL be there (see sidebar).? World Can't Wait wrote a letter to the anti-war movement.? We posed: "We in this country, and those of us in this movement, have a choice. We can side with our government, with the "good war" fought in our names, and act like American lives are more important than anyone else's lives. Or we can show the people living in the Middle East, and the world, that in the U.S. there is a difference between the people and their government, and that the people are taking responsibility to end an unjust war and the war crimes that have been carried out in our name. We can act like we care about the whole planet." To the Anti-War movement in the United States: "That which you do not resist and mobilize to stop you will learn - or be forced - to accept." >From the Call to Drive out the Bush Regime, 2005 Barack Obama is sending a surge of 20,000 troops to Afghanistan. An antiwar movement that does not move immediately to oppose the Obama doctrine of shifting the central front of the war on terror to Afghanistan, no longer deserves to be called an anti-war movement. Millions of people voted for Obama because they thought he would end the war. Yet Obama filled his cabinet with Hillary "Obliterate Iran" Clinton, Robert Gates, James Jones and Susan Rice ("a kettle of hawks," said Jeremy Scahill). He is not only continuing an unjust war by leaving 80,000 troops and 17 permanent bases in Iraq, and all over the region, including nuclear carrier-led task forces with enough firepower to "annihilate" any country in the region, but Obama is enlisting many progressive sections of society to support and be complicit in waging a spreading war for U.S. hegemony and imperialist expansion known as the "war on terror." The election of the first Black president is effectively re-branding preemptive and illegal wars of aggression to make us feel good about them. Massive anti-war sentiment and action is already being transformed into flag-waving patriotism, passivity and capitulation in the face of horrors... full text. ?Please post your comments on this letter on worldcantwait.org; digg it; post it to other sites or email it; and write me here about it.? The protest seen around the world: "He [George Bush] deserves to be hit with 100, not just one or two shoes. Who wants him to come here?" said an Iraqi in response to Muntadar al-Zaidi's action yesterday of throwing his shoes at Bush during a Bagdad press conference.? "This is a farewell kiss, you dog.? This is for the widows the orphans, and those killed in Iraq."? al-Zaidi, who reportedly was detained by U.S. troops last year while working as a reporter, was dragged out and beaten by Iraqi security, and is still being held.? Iraqis rallied today, calling him a hero for insulting Bush. An action at the White House Wednesday December 17, 11 am, to bring shoes with the names of Iraqis as a demand that the war in Iraq be ended has been called by Code Pink, AfterDowningStreet, and Democrats.com.? David Swanson writes Bush Comparison Seen As Unfair to Dogs. Last Monday,the City Council of Berkeley, CA passed a resolution putting the City of Berkeley on record calling for UC Berkeley Law professor John Yoo to be prosecuted for war crimes.? Many of you contacted the City Council, and people, including 3 City Council members, testified in favor of the resolution, which marks another stage in the growing political battle over torture that erupted over the past year with "torture professor" Yoo at its vortex.? The nearly-unanimous vote is being described in the San Francisco Chronicle and other news reports as Berkeley boldly taking a stand on yet another national controversy.? It is a good thing that even one U.S. city says out loud and officially that torture is a war crime, and that criminals like John Yoo should be brought to account.? The people of the world would surely be glad if many more cities followed Berkeley's lead.? Yet the resolution which ultimately passed was a re-written substitute for, and cut the heart out of, the original version.? World Can't Wait will be reporting further as part of our extensive coverage of the US torture state. Debra Sweet, Director, The World Can't Wait - Drive Out the Bush Regime World Can't Wait - info at worldcantwait.org - 866.973.4463 - 305 W. Broadway #185, NY, NY 10013 Send checks or money orders, payable to "World Can't Wait": World Can't Wait 305 W. Broadway #185 New York, NY 10013 For sponsorship level donations, or if you wish to make stock donations please contact our development director Samantha Goldman samantha at worldcantwait.org, 347-581-2677. To make a tax-deductible donation of $100 or more in support of WCW's educational activities, please make checks out to "The Alliance for Global Justice," a 501(3)(c) organization, and designate "for WCW" in the check memo line. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I > believe there's a similar community access channel in Evanston and > some other suburbs but I don't know much about them. > > Jay > > * *//Declare It Now! Wear Orange! > Impeach Bush & Cheney for War Crimes > & Crimes against Humanity! > > > --- On *Sun, 12/14/08, Daniel Stafford //* wrote: > > From: Daniel Stafford > Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Fw: LA silencing public TV > To: "IL Progressive Dems" , > "AB_Progressives" , "Progressive" > , DiehardDems at yahoogroups.com, > "Citizen's Truth" > Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 11:47 PM > > > > Dan Stafford wrote: >> See the LA Times article below - has national implications. Very >> interest from several perspectives. >> >> 1. What is the status of local public access here, and could we >> effectively use it to reach out to local Progressives? >> >> Dan >> >> Words are the mind's bridge - its connection to all the universe. >> Love is the heart's bridge - its connection to all other souls. >> Loving words can work miracles. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.laweekly.com/content/printVersion/410933 >> >> >> >> http://zumatimes.com/ >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > CitizensTruth mailing list > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > website: http://citizenstruth.info > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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His recent articles include "The U.S. in Afghanistan: A War for Empire-Not a 'Good War' Gone Bad" and "Obama's Foreign Policy: Steering U.S. Imperialism Through Dangerous Waters," which can be found at revcom.us and larryeverest.com Norman Solomon and Larry Everest will be guests on KPFA Flashpoints, 94.1 FM between 5-6 PM, Thursday, Dec 18 Co-Moderators and Hosts: Bay Area educator Mary Prophet and KPFA Flashpoint's Dennis Bernstein Thursday, December 18, 7pm, Berkeley Fellowship of Unitarian Universalists, 1924 Cedar Street (at Bonita Avenue), Berkeley, CA 510-841-4824 $5-$10, no one turned away for lack of funds. The San Francisco Bay Area Chapter The World Can't Wait - Drive Out the Bush Regime! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Individual justices and the entire court have turned down emergency appeals over Obama's eligibility at least seven times in the past six weeks. Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961 to an American mother and a Kenyan father. Reacting to Internet-fueled conspiracy theories that Obama's birth certificate is a fake, Hawaiian officials have said they examined the document and have no doubt it is authentic. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iHUQU9Oy9bW8w5a5eevJkGvFNtmAD954J4CG0 From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Wed Dec 17 16:44:08 2008 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:44:08 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Fwd: New Illinois Motto In-Reply-To: <1418521907.1148751229547379020.JavaMail.root@sz0133a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1418521907.1148751229547379020.JavaMail.root@sz0133a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <494972A8.6060005@mailbag.com> /*New Illinois State Motto.........*/ // "Illinois, where our governors, personally, make our license plates" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dimension04 at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 18 10:35:35 2008 From: dimension04 at sbcglobal.net (Connie Smith) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:35:35 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] lawsuit: Cheney, Rumsfeld allowed hit on Pentagon Message-ID: A career Army officer who survived the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, claims that no evacuation was ordered inside the Pentagon, despite flight controllers calling in warnings of approaching hijacked aircraft nearly 20 minutes before the building was struck. ...On behalf of retired Army officer April Gallop, California attorney William Veale has filed a civil suit against former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Vice President Dick Cheney and former US Air Force General Richard Myers... It alleges they engaged in conspiracy to facilitate the terrorist attacks and purposefully failed to warn those inside the Pentagon, contributing to injuries she and her two-month-old son incurred. Gallop says she heard two loud explosions, and does not believe that a Boeing 757 hit the building. Her son sustained a serious brain injury... ..."The ex-G.I. plaintiff alleges she has been denied government support since then, because she raised 'painful questions' about the inexplicable failure of military defenses at the Pentagon that day, and especially the failure of officials to warn and evacuate the occupants of the building when they knew the attack was imminent" said Veale in a media advisory. from the lawsuit: "This claim is supported by data from the plane's "black box", released by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), which indicate the plane passed over the building at very low altitude, just as an explosion and fireball were engineered (inside) by other means..." http://rawstory.com//printstory.php?story=13442 - - - more: Statement from "Pilots for Truth," high-level military and aviation experts: We have contacted April offering any assistance she may need with this lawsuit. 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In-Reply-To: References: <217670429.44606801@wfc.wfcDB.mail.democracyinaction.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:44:58 -0500 From: contact at cindyforcongress.org To: dulouz2001 at hotmail.com Subject: Last Ditch Effort... Dear Friend, On Monday, I sent an e-mail announcing that the Cindy for Congress campaign organization was closing its doors. In response, I received a flood or replies begging me not to give up. Believe me, I do not want to give up. As noted in that e-mail, I will continue to do what I can, while also trying to keep life and limb together. I've lived in tents and on couches before because my commitment to the cause is greater than my financial resources. And, yes, I'm willing to do whatever it takes to stay in the game if you, my supporters, are able to help provide some of the necessary resources. Given that we literally are within days of losing our office space, having the electricity turned off and so on, if we're going to save the Cindy for Congress campaign, we need to act now. Of course, this plea comes at the worst time of year. Thanks to the failed economic policies of this and past administrations, we're all financially strapped. Yet holiday traditions call for spending more money than usual. Now, here I am, hat-in-hand, literally begging for money and other resources. Before you delete this message, let me give you a breakdown of what it costs to keep the Cindy for Congress campaign running. If you'll read the next few paragraphs, you'll see that even little donations have a huge impact on our ability to keep the doors open. We spent roughly $600,000 last year while my opponent raised $2.3 million to ensure her re-election and to elect more status-quo supporting Democrats around the country. Next year, 2009, we'll need approximately $240,000 to maintain even a minimal level of visibility and momentum. This will be critical going into 2010 when we'll need even more money to mount an aggressive campaign that has a more significant impact. If we divide $240,000 by 12, that means about $20,000 per month in donations to keep the campaign afloat. If we take the monthly figure and divide it by 5000 supporters, we'd need EVERYONE receiving this to donate $4.00 per month. But the bottom line is, we need you to click the donate button at the top of this message and donate something. Anything. If we can get thru the next month or two, we'll have time to work on building a more stable financial foundation. True Grassroots Movement IF we're to keep the Cindy for Congress campaign alive and growing between now and the next election in 2010, we need every individual who supports us to be actively involved. We need to focus on convincing thousands upon thousands of people that our efforts are worth supporting. If I can win a seat in the US House of Representatives, my official duty will be to represent the people of the 8th Congressional district in San Francisco but you know I can't - and won't - stop there. No matter how well or successfully (or failing) Obama is in addressing the ills plaguing this country right now, both the House and Senate need more members who believe they answer to the people. Currently, most members of both houses are beholden to corporate contributors and the super-rich. Together, these two often overlapping groups control a disproportionate amount of the country's resources and political power. Our founders believed in one person, one vote (if you were a white, male property owner; but movements have achieved universal suffrage), but we've seen this principle erode over the years. Now we're seeing the results: An economic meltdown; No public healthcare; One environmental disaster after another; Our Constitution lies in shreds; Less security at our ports and borders than before 9-11; A full brigade of the US Army trained and poised to turn on the American public should the president deem it advisable; A public education system rated at the bottom of all such systems in the industrialized world. The list goes on and on and on. The ONLY answer lies with us ? with "We, the People." Until we stand up for our rights, the deck will continue to be stacked against us. Again, not because of anything the incoming administration does or doesn't do. The entire system is full of weeds. We need to ferret out those weeds and replace them with healthy green grass. I apologize for being so long-winded and brazen in my request for support. However, as I said at the beginning of this note, the response to my announcement about suspending the Cindy for Congress campaign was overwhelming. As such, I thought it was worth a last-ditch effort to scrape together enough funds and new volunteers to re-energize the campaign while we figure out how to keep the organization solvent, going and growing. My most heartfelt thanks for any help and support you can offer. You'll hear from me at least one more time with an update on the success (or failure) of our efforts. Best, Cindy PS: If it's impossible for you to make a financial contribution at this time - and I know about financial hardship - continue reading. There are a whole host of things you can do that would help the Cindy for Congress campaign greatly. Remember, the more of you who get involved, the more likely we are to win the next election! Can't donate money? While money is critical at this point - and I do mean critical - we can use help in a number of other areas. 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So we put Windows on the web. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032869/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hal at drxyzzy.org Sat Dec 20 12:45:08 2008 From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:45:08 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Rove's IT wizard silenced Message-ID: <75680157-2E1C-413E-82D4-DE1E7A8DEC6F@drxyzzy.org> Bush Insider Who Planned To Tell All Killed In Plane Crash: Non-Profit Demands Full Federal Investigation WASHINGTON, Dec. 20 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Michael Connell, the Bush IT expert who has been directly implicated in the rigging of George Bush's 2000 and 2004 elections, was killed last night when his single engine plane crashed three miles short of the Akron airport. Velvet Revolution ("VR"), a non-profit that has been investigating Mr. Connell's activities for the past two years, can now reveal that a person close to Mr. Connell has recently been discussing with a VR investigator how he can tell all about his work for George Bush. Mr. Connell told a close associate that he was afraid that George Bush and Dick Cheney would "throw [him] under the bus." Background. Connell was Rove's IT consultant. http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6214 Karl Rove has threatened a GOP high-tech guru (Connell) and his wife, if he does not "'take the fall' for election fraud in Ohio," according to a letter sent this morning to Attorney General Michael Mukasey, by Ohio election attorney Cliff Arnebeck. Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:51 AM To: AskDOJ at usdoj.gov Subject: Report of Rove threats against witness Michael Connell Dear Attorney General Mukasey: We have been confidentially informed by a source we believe to be credible that Karl Rove has threatened Michael Connell, a principal witness we have identified in our King Lincoln case in federal court in Columbus, Ohio, that if he does not agree to "take the fall" for election fraud in Ohio, his wife Heather will be prosecuted for supposed lobby law violations.This appears to be in response to our designation of Rove as the principal perpetrator in the Ohio Corrupt Practices Act/RICO claim with respect to which we issued document hold notices last Thursday to you and to the US Chamber of Commerce Institute for Legal Reform. See: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6189 and http://www.archive.org/d...tionFraudInOhioCourtCase. 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Dear AE911Truth Supporter, We have several very important projects we are working on at the year's end, and we will be able to update you soon in our January eNewsletter, The Blueprint. In the mean time, we wanted to extend to you and your loved ones our very best wishes for your holidays ? and to let you know that we continue to reach out every day without stop to bring the 9/11 Truth to Architects, Engineers and all others! See the fabulous results of our European AE911Truth tour! And please consider us this year as a part of your year-end giving. AE911Truth survives only because of the generous support of our Sustaining Members. Consider giving a double gift of a sustaining membership to AE911Truth from a supportive friend or loved one for Christmas in their name! (a great idea for "the 9/11 Truther who has everything") Or a one-time year-end donation which will help us bring lunch to the architecture & engineering firms in early 2009 and feed them the 9/11 Truth! 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URL: From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Sun Dec 21 13:08:58 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:08:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] December 19, 2008 - Richard Gage on the Alex Jones show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <141498.65090.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 9/11 lies were used to destroy our bill of rights and constitution December 19, 2008 Alex Jones speaks with Richard Gage about the deceptive proclamations that the National Institute for Standards and Technology has made in their attempt to explain away the almost free fall collapse of the third building, WTC7 on 9/11/2001 and the subsequent pool of molten iron found at the base of the building. No aircraft struck World Trade Center Building 7. No steel frame building had ever collapsed because of fire in this manner before September 11, 2001. Alex and Richard take questions from callers. http://www.radiodujour.com/people/gage_richard/index.shtml From Walterb306 at cs.com Mon Dec 22 12:42:13 2008 From: Walterb306 at cs.com (Walterb306 at cs.com) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:42:13 EST Subject: [CitizensTruth] ARTICLE-US to expand DNA collection Message-ID: All, FYI, Beverley RAMSTACK: U.S. set to expand DNA collections http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/dec/22/us-set-to-expand-dna-collectio ns/ Tom Ramstack (Contact) Monday, December 22, 2008 Tom Ramstack The government is expanding collection of DNA samples beginning Jan. 9 to include anyone arrested on federal charges and many immigrants detained by the Homeland Security Department. Previously, DNA was collected only from people convicted of crimes. Civil rights advocates are up in arms. They say DNA sampling before conviction is another example of big government trampling the privacy of individuals. The new policy would add more than 1.2 million DNA samples to an FBI database that already has digitally logged the genetic material of 6.2 million convicts. The samples can be taken from blood or saliva swabs. The federal policy follows the lead of 13 states that have expanded their DNA collection to arrestees, largely from crime concerns raised by illegal immigration and terrorism. All 50 states allow DNA sampling on convicts. Most of the new samples would be taken from illegal immigrants detained by the Homeland Security Department. Its records show that Border Patrol and other agencies detained about 1.2 million immigrants in 2006. About 140,000 Americans are arrested for felonies each year that could subject them to DNA sampling after Jan 9. Immigrants awaiting lawful entry into the United States or detained at sea by the Coast Guard would not be subjected to the DNA sampling. Law enforcement agencies use DNA by comparing samples to crime-scene evidence to find a match that leads them to suspects. The Justice Department instituted the policy with the approval of Congress in a December 2005 reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act. "We know from past experience that collecting DNA at arrest or deportation will prevent rapes and murders that would otherwise be committed," Sen. Jon Kyl, Arizona Republican, who sponsored the legislation, said when the Justice Department published its final regulations for the expanded samplings earlier this year. He mentioned as an example Arizona's "Chandler rapist," an illegal immigrant arrested in January after a suspected half-dozen sexual assaults on teenage girls and young mothers. He had been deported in 2003, but police took no DNA sample from him, which Mr. Kyl said could have led to an arrest early in the crime spree. The American Civil Liberties Union says the new policy punishes people who might never be convicted of crimes. Many arrestees later are found not guilty or have their cases dismissed. Immigrants are not necessarily criminals. The FBI could retain the genetic material permanently in the National DNA Index System. The ACLU says the government could analyze it for ancestry and medical diagnoses, both of which are supposed to be protected under the Fourth Amendment as privacy issues. "Already, the government has allowed its DNA database to be used in ways that go far beyond what was originally envisioned," said Michael T. Risher, ACLU staff lawyer. Law enforcement agencies sometimes use their database matches to track down family members whose DNA is similar to crime-scene genetic material in the hope they will then name the suspect, the ACLU says. The Justice Department denies privacy rights would be trampled by wider collection of DNA. "DNA samples and profiles in the system are subject to stringent privacy protections, reinforced and secured through numerous safeguards to ensure that information in the system is used only for proper law enforcement identification purposes," said Evan Peterson, Justice Department spokesman. o Above the Law runs on Mondays. Call Tom Ramstack at 202/636-3180 or e-mail tramstack at washingtontimes.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Tue Dec 23 22:39:23 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:39:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Karl Rove's IT Guru crashes his airplane - Peter B Collins/Raw story/Brad Blog Message-ID: <873429.58954.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If this isn't a conspiracy theory then what would you call it? December 22, 2008 Peter B Collins talks with Brad Friedman (bradblog.com), Larisa Alexandrovna (rawstory.com) and attorney Clifford Arnebeck about the mysterious death by plane crash of Karl Rove's IT Guru Mike Connell who was set to testify that he participated in manipulating the Ohio 2004 presidential election to insure that George W Bush would remain president of the United States. http://www.radiodujour.com/people/connell_mike/ From mincam2 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 24 23:57:13 2008 From: mincam2 at yahoo.com (Chuck Minne) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:57:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Karl Rove's IT Guru crashes his airplane - Peter B Collins/Raw story/Brad Blog In-Reply-To: <873429.58954.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <939883.34968.qm@web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From:? http://www.alternet.org/election08/114674/rove%27s_it_guru_warned_of_sabotage_before_fatal_plane_crash%3B_was_set_to_testify/ ? ? ? Rove's IT Guru Warned of Sabotage Before Fatal Plane Crash; Was Set to Testify ? By Amy Goodman, Democracy Now! Posted on December 22, 2008, Printed on December 24, 2008 http://www.alternet.org/story/114674/ Amy Goodman: A top Republican internet strategist who was set to testify in a case alleging election tampering in 2004 in Ohio has died in a plane crash. Mike Connell was the chief IT consultant to Karl Rove and created websites for the Bush and McCain electoral campaigns. He also set up the official Ohio state election website reporting the 2004 presidential election returns. ? Connell was reportedly an experienced pilot. He died instantly Friday night when his private plane crashed in a residential neighborhood near Akron, Ohio. ? Michael Connell was deposed one day before the election this year by attorneys Cliff Arnebeck and Bob Fitrakis about his actions during the 2004 vote count and his access to Karl Rove's e-mail files and how they went missing. ? Velvet Revolution, a non-profit investigating Connell's activities, revealed this weekend that Connell had recently said he was afraid George Bush and Dick Cheney would "throw [him] under the bus." Cliff Arnebeck had also previously alerted Attorney General Michael Mukasey to alleged threats from Karl Rove to Connell if he refused to "take the fall." ? Well, Mark Crispin Miller joins us now, a professor of media culture and communication at New York University, the author of several books, including Loser Take All: Election Fraud and the Subversion of Democracy, 2000-2008 and Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election & Why They'll Steal the Next One Too. Mark Crispin Miller us now in our firehouse studio. ? Welcome to Democracy Now! ? Mark Crispin Miller: It's good to be here, Amy. Thank you. ? AG: Alright, well, we had you on right before the election, because that's when Mike Connell was being deposed. This news that came out of his death in a plane crash on Friday night, talk about what you understand has happened. ? MCM: Well, I cannot assert with perfect confidence that this was no accident, but I will say that the circumstances are so suspicious and so convenient for Rove and the White House that I think we're obliged to investigate this thing very, very thoroughly. And that means, first of all, taking a close look at some of the stories that were immediately circulated to account for what happened, that it was bad weather. That was the line they used when Wellstone's plane went down. There had been bad weather, but it had passed two hours before. And this comes from a woman at the airport information desk in Akron. We're told that his plane was running out of gas, which is a little bit odd for a highly experienced pilot like Connell, but apparently, when the plane went down, there was an explosion, a fireball that actually charred and pocked some of the house fronts in the neighborhood. People can go online and see the footage that news crews took. But beyond the, you know, dubiousness of the official story, we have to take a close look at -- and a serious look at all the charges that Connell was set to make. ? AG: Now, he had asked the Attorney General Mukasey for protective custody, because of threats to him and his wife? ? MCM: He reported threats to his lawyer, Cliff Arnebeck, and Arnebeck -- also, Velvet Revolution heard from tipsters, as well, tipsters who also claimed that Connell's life was at risk. Stephen Spoonamore, the whistleblower who was the first -- who was the one to name Connell in the first place, also had an ear to the inside. He's also very connected. And all these people were saying Rove is making threats, the White House is very worried about this case. ? Having heard all this, Arnebeck contacted Mukasey, he contacted Nancy Rogers, who is the Ohio Attorney General, and he wrote a letter to the court, telling all of them that "This man should be in protective custody. He is an important witness in a RICO case. Please do something to look after him." And they didn't respond to this. ? AG: So, explain what this case is all about and exactly what Mike Connell has been doing over these last years. What does it mean to be Karl Rove's IT guru? ? MCM: Well, the lawyers in the case refer to him as a high-IQ Forrest Gump, by which they mean that he seems to have been present at the scene of every dubious election of the last eight years. We're talking about Florida in 2000. We're talking about Ohio in 2004. We're talking about Alabama in 2002. He seems to have been involved in the theft of Don Siegelman's re-election for governor. There's some evidence that links him with the Saxby Chambliss-Max Cleland Senate race in Georgia in 2002. To be Karl Rove's IT guru seems to have meant basically setting it up so that votes could be electronically shaved to the disadvantage of the Democrats and the advantage of Republicans. ? AG: What do you mean, "electronically shaved"? I mean, you've got all these precincts all over Ohio. They're counting up their votes. What does he have to do with this? ? MCM: Well, specifically, there's a computer architecture setup called "Man in the Middle," which involves shunting the election returns from, you know, the state in question -- in this case, Ohio -- shunting them to a separate computer elsewhere. All of the election returns in Ohio in 2004 went from the Secretary of State's website -- this is Ken Blackwell -- to a separate computer in a basement in Chattanooga, Tennessee, which was under the control of another private company called SMARTech. ? So we have now two private companies: GovTech Solutions, which is Connell's company, SMARTech, which is run by a guy named [Jeff] Averbeck. And the company -- the third private company that managed the voting tabulators in Ohio was called Triad. All three of these companies worked closely together on election night in Ohio in 2004. It turns out that the state's own IT person was sent home at 9:00 p.m. They said, "Go ahead. Go home. We'll take care of this." So that this trio of highly partisan and, let me add, Christianist companies basically took over the whole -- ? AG: What do you mean, "Christianist"? ? MCM: Well, they're radical theocratic activists, particularly -- particularly Triad and SMARTech. You know, they are fervently anti-choice. ? AG: Well, Mike Connell was, in fact -- many said that's what motivated him through all of this, his fierce anti-abortion stance. ? MCM: He told -- Connell told Spoonamore that one of the primary reasons why he helped Bush-Cheney steal elections was to save the babies. I do think, though, that we have to draw a distinction between Connell, on the one hand, and the Averbeck and the Rapp family, on the other hand, because Connell was far less ferocious in his political views. He was an ardent anti-abortionist, it's true, but he wasn't quite as hardcore as the others. And in fact, you know, he was a little bit alienated from the others, and that's one of the reasons why he was inclined to talk, and so on. ? But the fact is, to answer your question, that on election night in 2004, it had been Connell, with these other two companies working with him, who had managed the computer setup, enabling Ken Blackwell to study the maps of precincts and voter turnout very carefully and figure out how many votes they need. By shunting the data to Chattanooga, they kind of slowed down the data stream. ? AG: Wasn't Karl Rove's email also there in Chattanooga on some of these servers? MCM: Yes, yes. The same servers were used to host a whole bunch of highly partisan websites. And also, indeed, Karl Rove's emails were on that server, too. ? AG: That have gone missing. ? MCM: That have gone missing. Incidentally, Stephen Spoonamore, again, the whistleblower who's the one who named Connell, has told us -- and I've seen his own contemporary notes -- ? AG: And explain again who he was. Why was he in a position to whistleblow? ? MCM: Stephen Spoonamore is a conservative Republican, a former McCain supporter and a very prominent expert at the detection of computer fraud. He's the star witness in the Ohio lawsuit, right, in which Connell was involved. He has done extensive work of this kind, involving computer security, and had therefore worked with Connell, knew Connell personally and knew a lot of the people who were involved in the sort of cyber-security end of the Bush operation. ? Despite his conservatism -- or I suppose some would say because of it -- he's a man of principle -- I mean, believes in the Constitution. He believes elections should be honest. He's the one who came forward and named Connell. ? And I have seen his notes of a conversation in which Connell asked Spoonamore how one would go about destroying White House emails. To this, Spoonamore said, "This conversation is over. You're asking me to do something illegal." But clearly, clearly -- this is the important point -- Mike Connell was up past his eyeballs in the most sensitive and explosive aspects of this crime family that, you know, has been masquerading as a political party. ? AG: And what did Fitrakis, the attorney who has brought the suit with Harvey Wasserman, the Ohio lawsuit, learn in the deposition of Mike Connell in the day before the election, which hardly got attention, considering it was the day before this historic election? ? MCM: Yeah. Harvey wasn't part of it. Harvey writes articles with Bob. It's Bob Fitrakis and Cliff Arnebeck are the attorneys. They learned very little. What they learned was that Bush-Cheney lawyer who accompanied Connell to the deposition was watching the whole thing like a hawk, repeatedly objected to questions. Connell was stonewalling like crazy at this deposition. ? They only learned one thing. And that was, they got confirmation that it was Connell who brought these other private companies into the arrangement, in addition to his own GovTech Solutions. Again, there was Triad and SMARTech. It was Connell who brought those three companies into one unit, so that the three of them were, in effect, handling Ohio's election returns on election night under Connell's supervision. That's what we learned. ? We also know, Amy, that since the deposition -- I want to make this clear; we said it before, I want to repeat it -- that Connell has indicated very clearly a desire to talk further, to tell more, whether it's his conscience bothering him or whether it's fear of some kind of a perjury charge because of how vigorously he stonewalled at the deposition. He made it known to the lawyers, he made it known to reporter Larisa Alexandrovna of Raw Story, that he wanted to talk. He was scared. He wanted to talk. And I say that he had pretty good reason to be scared. ? AG: So why did he fly in -- why did he pilot his own plane when he was so afraid? ? MCM: Well, that's a good question. We can't ask him, unfortunately. I mean, this is kind of a grisly thought, but, I mean, I think we should be asking where the body is. We're told that a trooper on the scene immediately identified Connell. But then we read elsewhere that there was nothing left but debris and that the fireball was enormous. So maybe he wasn't on the plane. I mean, who knows, when you're dealing with people as deep as these? ? But the point is -- I can't stress this strongly enough -- we're dealing not just with a shocking accident, if that's what it was, and a convenient one. We're dealing not even just with a particular lawsuit that, you know, really requires vigorous promotion. The important point here is that this is all about our elections. That's what this is about. This is about democratic self-government. ? The fact that Obama won so handily has caused a lot of us to sit back and relax. There's been a lot of popping of champagne corks and people drawing the conclusion that the system must work, because our guy won. Well, this is not a sports event. This is self-government. ? In fact, the evidence strongly suggests -- and we haven't had a chance to talk about this since Election Day -- that Obama probably won by twice as many votes as we think. Probably a good seven million votes for Obama were undone through vote suppression and fraud, because the stuff was extensive and pervasive, in places where you wouldn't expect it. ? The Illinois Ballot Integrity Project was monitoring the vote in DuPage County, right next door to Obama's, you know, backyard, Cook County. And two of them, in only two precincts on Election Day, saw with their own eyes 350 voters show up, only to be turned away, told, "You're not registered," people who were registered, who voted in the primary. All but one of these people was black. That's in Illinois. ? People at the Election Defense Alliance have discovered, from sifting through the numbers, an eleven-point red shift in New Hampshire. That means that there's a discrepancy in Obama's disfavor, primarily through use of the optical scan machines, an eleven-point discrepancy in the Republicans' favor, OK? ? You start to combine this with all the vote suppression, all the disenfranchisement, all the vote machine flipping that went on in this election, you realize, OK, Obama won, but millions of Americans, most of them African American and students, you know, were not able to participate in any civic sense, ironically, a lot of the same people, you know, who would have been disenfranchised and were disenfranchised before the civil rights movement. So the fact that a black president was elected, while cause for jubilation, see, ought not to take place at the expense of a whole lot of our fellow citizens who seem to have been disenfranchised on racial grounds. My point is very simply this: We've got to get past the victory of Obama and look seriously at what our election system is like, or else, I promise you, see, the setup that was put in place in this last election, in 2004 and in 2000, OK, will still be there in 2010, still be there in 2012. So we've got to take steps to do something about it now. ? AG: Mark Crispin Miller, I want to thank you very much for being with us, professor of media culture and communication at New York University, most recent book Loser Take All: Election Fraud and the Subversion of Democracy, 2000-2008. ? Amy Goodman is the host of the nationally syndicated radio news program, Democracy Now! ? 2008 Democracy Now! All rights reserved. View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/story/114674/ ? ? "I have lost faith, godammit! I put my faith in the People and that was a mistake! This is a shit people! They get stolen blind by their politicians and they lick their boots. They send their kids off to die for somebody's business deal and they celebrate it like they're doing something heroic! This great and glorious people! Lazy sacks of junk food and jingo!" ? From: "The Army of the Republic"? by Stuart Archer Cohen ? --- On Tue, 12/23/08, Edward Rynearson wrote: From: Edward Rynearson Subject: [CitizensTruth] Karl Rove's IT Guru crashes his airplane - Peter B Collins/Raw story/Brad Blog To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 9:39 PM If this isn't a conspiracy theory then what would you call it? December 22, 2008 Peter B Collins talks with Brad Friedman (bradblog.com), Larisa Alexandrovna (rawstory.com) and attorney Clifford Arnebeck about the mysterious death by plane crash of Karl Rove's IT Guru Mike Connell who was set to testify that he participated in manipulating the Ohio 2004 presidential election to insure that George W Bush would remain president of the United States. http://www.radiodujour.com/people/connell_mike/ _______________________________________________ CitizensTruth mailing list CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth website: http://citizenstruth.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Attorney general-nominee led effort to kill investigation into prisoner's death. http://www.radiodujour.com/people/trentadue_jesse (More Obama change? - there are better candidates than Holder to clean up the wreckage that is our justice department) From futurenotwritten at yahoo.com Fri Dec 26 21:06:07 2008 From: futurenotwritten at yahoo.com (Jay Becker) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:06:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Harold Pinter - voice of conscience Message-ID: <793923.83576.qm@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Harold Pinter's death a few days ago was a loss to all people of conscience who were heartened by his uncompromising opposition to the Bush doctrine and the regime behind it. Way back in October 2005 he gave his support to the fledgling movement to drive out that regime, the World Can't Wait, with this statement: "The Bush Administration is the most dangerous force that has ever existed. It is more dangerous than Nazi Germany because of the range and depth of its activities and intentions worldwide. I give my full support to the Call to Drive out the Bush Regime."???? Anne Wright has written a remembrance of the thrill millions felt when Pinter called out these war criminals from the platform given him when he was awarded the Nobel Prize for literature in 2005, http://www.truthout .org/122608J, in which she calls for accountability for Bush, Cheney, Rice and the rest of the criminals. The world is still waiting, it's on us to act on that demand. Jay Declare It Now! Wear Orange! Impeach Bush & Cheney for War Crimes & Crimes against Humanity! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Sat Dec 27 14:31:01 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:31:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Philip Berg's case refiled - Scalia referred to court - conference January 16, 2009 Message-ID: <105571.75939.qm@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> No. 08-570 Title: Philip J. Berg, Petitioner v. Barack Obama, et al. Docketed: October 31, 2008 Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit Case Nos.: (08-4340) Rule 11 ~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oct 30 2008 Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed. (Response due December 1, 2008) Oct 31 2008 Application (08A391) for an injunction pending the disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter. Nov 3 2008 Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed. Nov 3 2008 Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter. Nov 18 2008 Waiver of right of respondents Federal Election Commission, et al. to respond filed. Dec 1 2008 Motion for leave to file amicus brief filed by Bill Anderson. Dec 8 2008 Application (08A505) for an injunction pending the disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter. Dec 9 2008 Application (08A505) denied by Justice Souter. Dec 15 2008 Application (08A505) refiled and submitted to Justice Kennedy. Dec 17 2008 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 9, 2009. Dec 17 2008 Application (08A505) denied by Justice Kennedy. Dec 18 2008 Application (08A505) refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia. Dec 23 2008 Application (08A505) referred to the Court. Dec 23 2008 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 16, 2009. http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm (My read is that Kennedy denied the application to stay the electoral college process but the court is still reviewing the case. I don't have any Obama axes to grind. I've been reporting this for several months and thought it was over and reported as such. If we had an independent media, there wouldn't be so much confusion. ) From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Sun Dec 28 01:33:08 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:33:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Webster Tarpley interviews Philip Berg Message-ID: <495227.68286.qm@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> December 27, 2008 Despite hundreds of news stories to the contrary, Philip Berg's case before the Supreme Court is still alive. Webster Tarpley talks to Philip Berg who asks listeners to write to the Supreme Court and let them know that you care deeply about the constitution and consider them to be its last defense. http://www.radiodujour.com/people/berg_philip/ (It will all be over with soon. We can laugh about all of this waiting together in the food line at the FEMA camp.) From dimension04 at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 28 05:23:27 2008 From: dimension04 at sbcglobal.net (Connie Smith) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:23:27 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Webster Tarpley interviews Philip Berg In-Reply-To: <495227.68286.qm@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <495227.68286.qm@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6F297DC233584FCF813B968C99BC12FC@InspironConnie> More than ever, I can't see any sensible reason to pursue this. There are so many urgent constitutional violations that have piled up and are actually threatening us that I would think a person who is sincere about the Constitution would be spending their energy on those fronts. But instead, there's a vendetta-like search for a technicality to un-do probably the only legitimate election process (in terms of votes counted) that we've had in decades. It's petty, vicious, and stupid. If there was any evidence that Obama is some sort of foreign agent trying to sneak into the presidency and, from there, take over the world, maybe it would merit some attention. But to seriously pursue to derail the inauguration of an intelligent guy who's soaked in the values of his American midwestern-roots nurturers, who has a history of humanitarian ideals and actions, who is highly-solution oriented, and who is willing to literally risk his life to take on arguably the hardest job in the world (and probably more temperamentally and intellectually qualified than anyone we've ever had before) -- well, it's an absolutely idiotic effort. It's an outright sinister effort. There ARE extremely serious -- critical -- constitutional issues to work on. SINCERE people will do that. But Berg and buddies have the mentality of assassins and ought to be regarded and treated with the utmost scorn and contempt. Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Rynearson" To: Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:33 AM Subject: [CitizensTruth] Webster Tarpley interviews Philip Berg > December 27, 2008 > > Despite hundreds of news stories to the contrary, Philip Berg's case > before the Supreme Court is still alive. Webster Tarpley talks to Philip > Berg who asks listeners to write to the Supreme Court and let them know > that you care deeply about the constitution and consider them to be its > last defense. > > http://www.radiodujour.com/people/berg_philip/ > > (It will all be over with soon. We can laugh about all of this waiting > together in the food line at the FEMA camp.) > _______________________________________________ > CitizensTruth mailing list > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > website: http://citizenstruth.info From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com Sun Dec 28 13:25:38 2008 From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:25:38 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Webster Tarpley interviews Philip Berg In-Reply-To: <6F297DC233584FCF813B968C99BC12FC@InspironConnie> References: <495227.68286.qm@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6F297DC233584FCF813B968C99BC12FC@InspironConnie> Message-ID: <4957C4A2.8000906@thetwofacesofmoney.com> I do agree that inasmuch as there are "so many urgent constitutional violations that are actually threatening us that a person who is sincere about the Constitution would be spending their energy on those fronts." However, I strongly disagree that Obama is any way the leader we may hope and assume - but perhaps this belief is based on years of mainstream news (and individual citizen) reports forwarded to a now defunct Kucinich gang which showed Obama in anything but a favorable light. Following the Money is a first and major step to getting at the heart of those news reports - and the mainstay of Obama's support - now and then. One has to ask: EXACTLY WHAT is it that Obama has EVER done that shows a) he will follow through with his promises, b) that he will come anywhere NEAR 9-11 questions and c) that he will forsake the Money Masters in favor of We the People? Good article which speaks to this last question in particluar, by Michel Chossudovsky: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10860 Next we have an article which is an illustration of a pol who may not know all the answers, but who at least makes every attempt to avoid "speaking with a forked tongue". In addition this article details exactly what happened when said pol had the where-with-all to forsake the Money Masters: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081215_rep_dennis_kucinich_on_his_battle_with_the_banks/ Lest you assume that the Cleveland experience caused Kucinich to become "more political" watch this video clip, appropriately titled "Dennis Kucinich (not Barack Obama) grills Neel Kashari on Bailout Scam": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpyf-hS_WgY And this 33 second video "Kucinich to Kashkari - Who Are You working for?" (a question you won't find Obama asking the Money Masters anytime soon): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evpFtFfPWP8&feature=related This is in no way an ad for Kucinich but the truth is that regardless your personal political bent, it is responsive, courageous, truth seeking pols like Kucinich - who have demonstrated not only through word, but also through action - that We the People need, not prevaricators like Obama. We MUST know and name what harms us, or we will remain forever in bondage to the slave masters! gerip Connie Smith wrote: > > > More than ever, I can't see any sensible reason to pursue this. There > are so many urgent constitutional violations that have piled up and > are actually threatening us that I would think a person who is sincere > about the Constitution would be spending their energy on those fronts. > > But instead, there's a vendetta-like search for a technicality to > un-do probably the only legitimate election process (in terms of votes > counted) that we've had in decades. It's petty, vicious, and stupid. > > If there was any evidence that Obama is some sort of foreign agent > trying to sneak into the presidency and, from there, take over the > world, maybe it would merit some attention. > > But to seriously pursue to derail the inauguration of an intelligent > guy who's soaked in the values of his American midwestern-roots > nurturers, who has a history of humanitarian ideals and actions, who > is highly-solution oriented, and who is willing to literally risk his > life to take on arguably the hardest job in the world (and probably > more temperamentally and intellectually qualified than anyone we've > ever had before) -- well, it's an absolutely idiotic effort. It's an > outright sinister effort. > > There ARE extremely serious -- critical -- constitutional issues to > work on. SINCERE people will do that. But Berg and buddies have the > mentality of assassins and ought to be regarded and treated with the > utmost scorn and contempt. > > Connie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Rynearson" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:33 AM > Subject: [CitizensTruth] Webster Tarpley interviews Philip Berg > > >> December 27, 2008 >> >> Despite hundreds of news stories to the contrary, Philip Berg's case >> before the Supreme Court is still alive. Webster Tarpley talks to >> Philip Berg who asks listeners to write to the Supreme Court and let >> them know that you care deeply about the constitution and consider >> them to be its last defense. >> >> http://www.radiodujour.com/people/berg_philip/ >> >> (It will all be over with soon. We can laugh about all of this >> waiting together in the food line at the FEMA camp.) >> _______________________________________________ >> CitizensTruth mailing list >> CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth >> website: http://citizenstruth.info > > _______________________________________________ > CitizensTruth mailing list > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > website: http://citizenstruth.info From futurenotwritten at yahoo.com Sun Dec 28 16:10:16 2008 From: futurenotwritten at yahoo.com (Jay Becker) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:10:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Tutu condemns, Obama justifies war crimes Message-ID: <852377.19957.qm@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Israel's bombardment of Gaza "bears all the hallmarks of war crimes", Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu said in a statement on Sunday. "In the context of total aerial supremacy, in which one side in a conflict deploys lethal aircraft against opponents with no means of defending themselves, the bombardment bears all the hallmarks of war crimes." The attacks, in retaliation for rockets fired by the Palestinians, would not contribute to the security of Israel, he said. "It is a blight not only on the Middle East, but on the entire world - and particularly world leaders who have consistently failed the people of Palestine and Israel over the past 60 years." http://www.iol. co.za/index. php? set_id=1&click_ id=3&art_ id=nw20081228135 838626C247461 Here we can see Obama's great service to US imperialism--he does a much slicker job justifying Israel's vicious crimes against Palestinian people than the Bush manages...to cite just one element, he condemns Hamas for being "deeply influenced by other countries,"?! Jay Obama 'monitoring' Gaza strikes: spokesman 1 hour ago HONOLULU, Hawaii (AFP) ? US president-elect Barack Obama is "monitoring" the deadly violence in the Gaza strip while he is on vacation in Hawaii, a spokesperson said Saturday. Obama, who takes office on January 20, "is closely monitoring global events, including the situation in Gaza," said his chief national security spokesperson Brooke Anderson. Anderson however emphasized that "there is one president at a time," a statement Obama has said often since he was elected on November 4. In a July interview with The New York Times, Obama said he didn't? think that "any country would find it acceptable to have missiles raining down on the heads of their citizens," in reference to rockets fired from Gaza into Israel. "If somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that," Obama said. "And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing." As for talking with Hamas, the Islamist movement in control of Gaza, Obama said in the interview that it was "very hard to negotiate with a group that is not representative of a nation state, does not recognize your right to exist, has consistently used terror as a weapon, and is deeply influenced by other countries."? Punishing Israeli air raids into the Gaza Strip Saturday left at least 210 people dead and more than 300 wounded, in retaliation for rocket fire in one of the bloodiest days of the decades-long Middle East conflict. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said in a statement that Washington "strongly condemns the repeated rocket and mortar attacks against Israel and holds Hamas responsible for breaking the ceasefire and for the renewal of violence in Gaza." http://www.google. com/hostednews/ afp/article/ ALeqM5hlg6gJoFxI IFzFiTai dIBHFQFafA Declare It Now! Wear Orange! 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Hear specific stories, brainstorm over solutions, identify skill sets, and establish a forum for local leadership to emerge. Imagine that, an administration inviting us to participate instead of telling us to go shopping or making us all suspects in the War on Terror. Barack Obama comes from a tradition of community organizing that goes back to Saul Alinsky. This showed in his campaign and it shows in the appeal to the grassroots we are seeing in the transition agenda. It's up to us to participate in this opportunity or to continue passively as critics and outsiders to the process of governance. The tent just got a lot bigger. That is going to take some getting used to. I would much rather be involved in a dialogue with people whose views oppose mine than isolate them as enemies. On Dec 28, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Geri Perry wrote: > I do agree that inasmuch as there are "so many urgent constitutional > violations that are actually threatening us that a person who is > sincere about the Constitution would be spending their energy on > those fronts." > > However, I strongly disagree that Obama is any way the leader we may > hope and assume - but perhaps this belief is based on years of > mainstream news (and individual citizen) reports forwarded to a now > defunct Kucinich gang which showed Obama in anything but a favorable > light. Following the Money is a first and major step to getting at > the heart of those news reports - and the mainstay of Obama's > support - now and then. > > One has to ask: EXACTLY WHAT is it that Obama has EVER done that > shows a) he will follow through with his promises, b) that he will > come anywhere NEAR 9-11 questions and c) that he will forsake the > Money Masters in favor of We the People? Good article which speaks > to this last question in particluar, by Michel Chossudovsky: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10860 > > Next we have an article which is an illustration of a pol who may > not know all the answers, but who at least makes every attempt to > avoid "speaking with a forked tongue". In addition this article > details exactly what happened when said pol had the where-with-all > to forsake the Money Masters: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081215_rep_dennis_kucinich_on_his_battle_with_the_banks/ > > Lest you assume that the Cleveland experience caused Kucinich to > become "more political" watch this video clip, appropriately titled > "Dennis Kucinich (not Barack Obama) grills Neel Kashari on Bailout > Scam": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpyf-hS_WgY > > And this 33 second video "Kucinich to Kashkari - Who Are You working > for?" (a question you won't find Obama asking the Money Masters > anytime soon): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evpFtFfPWP8&feature=related > > This is in no way an ad for Kucinich but the truth is that > regardless your personal political bent, it is responsive, > courageous, truth seeking pols like Kucinich - who have demonstrated > not only through word, but also through action - that We the People > need, not prevaricators like Obama. > > We MUST know and name what harms us, or we will remain forever in > bondage to the slave masters! > > gerip > > > Connie Smith wrote: >> >> >> More than ever, I can't see any sensible reason to pursue this. >> There are so many urgent constitutional violations that have piled >> up and are actually threatening us that I would think a person who >> is sincere about the Constitution would be spending their energy on >> those fronts. >> >> But instead, there's a vendetta-like search for a technicality to >> un-do probably the only legitimate election process (in terms of >> votes counted) that we've had in decades. It's petty, vicious, and >> stupid. >> >> If there was any evidence that Obama is some sort of foreign agent >> trying to sneak into the presidency and, from there, take over the >> world, maybe it would merit some attention. >> >> But to seriously pursue to derail the inauguration of an >> intelligent guy who's soaked in the values of his American >> midwestern-roots nurturers, who has a history of humanitarian >> ideals and actions, who is highly-solution oriented, and who is >> willing to literally risk his life to take on arguably the hardest >> job in the world (and probably more temperamentally and >> intellectually qualified than anyone we've ever had before) -- >> well, it's an absolutely idiotic effort. It's an outright sinister >> effort. >> >> There ARE extremely serious -- critical -- constitutional issues to >> work on. SINCERE people will do that. But Berg and buddies have >> the mentality of assassins and ought to be regarded and treated >> with the utmost scorn and contempt. >> >> Connie >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Rynearson" > > >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:33 AM >> Subject: [CitizensTruth] Webster Tarpley interviews Philip Berg >> >> >>> December 27, 2008 >>> >>> Despite hundreds of news stories to the contrary, Philip Berg's >>> case before the Supreme Court is still alive. Webster Tarpley >>> talks to Philip Berg who asks listeners to write to the Supreme >>> Court and let them know that you care deeply about the >>> constitution and consider them to be its last defense. >>> >>> http://www.radiodujour.com/people/berg_philip/ >>> >>> (It will all be over with soon. We can laugh about all of this >>> waiting together in the food line at the FEMA camp.) From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com Sun Dec 28 20:13:18 2008 From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:13:18 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Webster Tarpley interviews Philip Berg In-Reply-To: <72F33492-EEA9-4C22-95EE-58395F443C0B@drxyzzy.org> References: <495227.68286.qm@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6F297DC233584FCF813B968C99BC12FC@InspironConnie> <4957C4A2.8000906@thetwofacesofmoney.com> <72F33492-EEA9-4C22-95EE-58395F443C0B@drxyzzy.org> Message-ID: <4958242E.9000907@thetwofacesofmoney.com> Got to love you Hal, and it's REALLY, REALLY GOOD that the house meeting was "oversubscribed". This neighbor-to-neighbor type of thing is exactly what we all need to engage in, rather than pinning false hopes and investing precious time on a puppet president (NO specific reference to Obama intended, it's just a fact of rigged elections and a rigged political system, as Dennis Kucinich used to say). Becoming, as you say, "involved in a dialogue with people whose views oppose our own rather than isolate such people as enemies" is also more beneficial in the long run than pinning our hopes on a phantom dream like universal health care. But I have to ask, are these house parties filled with people who hold opposing views, or do they mostly agree on the common goal of universal health care - and therefore base their discussion on false assumptions which then limits them to focus on strategy and technique rather than underlying, root issues? One such issue, upon which a plethora of false assumptions are based, has to do with universal health care - which can never be more than a "phantom dream" within the present context. Why? Because a health system that benefits the people and not the corporatists and financiers will NEVER be provided under the current money system - or within the current political system, carefully constructed as it was by the money powers, and otherwise known as the "sovereign power structure that surrounds the Federal Reserve." Hilary showed us that any "universal" health care system will always benefit the money powers - and so did the highly concerted marginalization of Kucinich who had the ONLY people-centered health care proposal ever put forth by any pol. Truth is, DK's people-centered system is impossible in a debt-based money system - but it was WAY better than ANYTHING that will come out of the Obama admin. You can count on it. We have to ask - and seek the REAL answer - for whom did "The tent just get a lot bigger"? It is time to think outside the box, and one crucial method is, as you indicate, to become "involved in a dialogue with people whose views oppose our own . . ." However, please do consider that said dialogue is meaningless unless and until we truly know and can name what it is that harms us. gerip Hal Snyder wrote: > I was at a health care house meeting yesterday. It was one of numerous > (hundreds?) of such meetings across the country called for by the > Obama transition team asking for public input to the health care > dialogue *before* the inauguration. > > The meeting was oversubscribed. It was a great example of grassroots > organizing. Bring people together with a common general concern. Hear > specific stories, brainstorm over solutions, identify skill sets, and > establish a forum for local leadership to emerge. > > Imagine that, an administration inviting us to participate instead of > telling us to go shopping or making us all suspects in the War on Terror. > > Barack Obama comes from a tradition of community organizing that goes > back to Saul Alinsky. This showed in his campaign and it shows in the > appeal to the grassroots we are seeing in the transition agenda. It's > up to us to participate in this opportunity or to continue passively > as critics and outsiders to the process of governance. > > The tent just got a lot bigger. That is going to take some getting > used to. I would much rather be involved in a dialogue with people > whose views oppose mine than isolate them as enemies. > > On Dec 28, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Geri Perry wrote: > >> I do agree that inasmuch as there are "so many urgent constitutional >> violations that are actually threatening us that a person who is >> sincere about the Constitution would be spending their energy on >> those fronts." >> >> However, I strongly disagree that Obama is any way the leader we may >> hope and assume - but perhaps this belief is based on years of >> mainstream news (and individual citizen) reports forwarded to a now >> defunct Kucinich gang which showed Obama in anything but a favorable >> light. Following the Money is a first and major step to getting at >> the heart of those news reports - and the mainstay of Obama's support >> - now and then. >> >> One has to ask: EXACTLY WHAT is it that Obama has EVER done that >> shows a) he will follow through with his promises, b) that he will >> come anywhere NEAR 9-11 questions and c) that he will forsake the >> Money Masters in favor of We the People? Good article which speaks to >> this last question in particluar, by Michel Chossudovsky: >> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10860 >> >> Next we have an article which is an illustration of a pol who may not >> know all the answers, but who at least makes every attempt to avoid >> "speaking with a forked tongue". In addition this article details >> exactly what happened when said pol had the where-with-all to forsake >> the Money Masters: >> http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081215_rep_dennis_kucinich_on_his_battle_with_the_banks/ >> >> >> Lest you assume that the Cleveland experience caused Kucinich to >> become "more political" watch this video clip, appropriately titled >> "Dennis Kucinich (not Barack Obama) grills Neel Kashari on Bailout >> Scam": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpyf-hS_WgY >> >> And this 33 second video "Kucinich to Kashkari - Who Are You working >> for?" (a question you won't find Obama asking the Money Masters >> anytime soon): >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evpFtFfPWP8&feature=related >> >> This is in no way an ad for Kucinich but the truth is that regardless >> your personal political bent, it is responsive, courageous, truth >> seeking pols like Kucinich - who have demonstrated not only through >> word, but also through action - that We the People need, not >> prevaricators like Obama. >> >> We MUST know and name what harms us, or we will remain forever in >> bondage to the slave masters! >> >> gerip >> >> >> Connie Smith wrote: >>> >>> >>> More than ever, I can't see any sensible reason to pursue this. >>> There are so many urgent constitutional violations that have piled >>> up and are actually threatening us that I would think a person who >>> is sincere about the Constitution would be spending their energy on >>> those fronts. >>> >>> But instead, there's a vendetta-like search for a technicality to >>> un-do probably the only legitimate election process (in terms of >>> votes counted) that we've had in decades. It's petty, vicious, and >>> stupid. >>> >>> If there was any evidence that Obama is some sort of foreign agent >>> trying to sneak into the presidency and, from there, take over the >>> world, maybe it would merit some attention. >>> >>> But to seriously pursue to derail the inauguration of an intelligent >>> guy who's soaked in the values of his American midwestern-roots >>> nurturers, who has a history of humanitarian ideals and actions, who >>> is highly-solution oriented, and who is willing to literally risk >>> his life to take on arguably the hardest job in the world (and >>> probably more temperamentally and intellectually qualified than >>> anyone we've ever had before) -- well, it's an absolutely idiotic >>> effort. It's an outright sinister effort. >>> >>> There ARE extremely serious -- critical -- constitutional issues to >>> work on. SINCERE people will do that. But Berg and buddies have the >>> mentality of assassins and ought to be regarded and treated with the >>> utmost scorn and contempt. >>> >>> Connie >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Rynearson" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:33 AM >>> Subject: [CitizensTruth] Webster Tarpley interviews Philip Berg >>> >>> >>>> December 27, 2008 >>>> >>>> Despite hundreds of news stories to the contrary, Philip Berg's >>>> case before the Supreme Court is still alive. Webster Tarpley talks >>>> to Philip Berg who asks listeners to write to the Supreme Court and >>>> let them know that you care deeply about the constitution and >>>> consider them to be its last defense. >>>> >>>> http://www.radiodujour.com/people/berg_philip/ >>>> >>>> (It will all be over with soon. We can laugh about all of this >>>> waiting together in the food line at the FEMA camp.) > _______________________________________________ > CitizensTruth mailing list > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > website: http://citizenstruth.info From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Sun Dec 28 22:33:15 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:33:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Gaza strikes challenge for Obama Message-ID: <516081.98237.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gaza strikes challenge for Obama By Tom Ackerman in Washington DC The violence in Gaza will be one of Obama's top challenges when he takes office [Reuters] While the Gaza Strip erupted at the weekend Barack Obama remained in holiday mode in Hawaii, sticking to his regular gym routine and otherwise relaxing. The military action comes just three weeks before Obama is sworn in as president and poses a great challenge for a man who has promised to work for Middle East peace from his first day in office. But although the president-elect has received briefings on the situation, David Axelrod, Obama?s top political adviser, said it would be inappropriate for the incoming chief executive to comment while George Bush is still president. Nevertheless, he said Obama stood by his defence of Israeli actions when he visited the southern town of Sderot last July, a frequent target of Hamas rockets. "He said then that when bombs are raining down on your citizens there is an urge to respond and act to put an end to that," Axelrod told CBS Face the Nation on Sunday. "That's what he said then, and that?s what he believes." http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2008/12/200812291463395447.html From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Sun Dec 28 22:35:35 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:35:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] US veto blocks UN anti-Israel resolution Message-ID: <793750.96397.qm@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> US veto blocks UN anti-Israel resolution Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:17:23 GMT The UN Security Council has been unable to force an end to Israeli attacks against Gaza due to the intervention of the United States. Washington once again used its veto powers on Sunday to block a resolution calling for an end to the massive ongoing Israeli attacks against the Gaza Strip. The council has only been able to issue a 'non-binding' statement that calls on Israel to voluntarily bring all its military activities in the besieged region to an immediate end. The statement comes as Israel has begun a fresh wave of air strikes on Gaza on Sunday, killing at least six people. At least 230 people were killed and 800 wounded in similar attacks on Saturday. The number of Palestinians deaths has so far risen to 271. The council called on the parties to address the humanitarian crisis in the territory but has not criticized the Israeli air attacks. Croatian UN Ambassador Neven Jurica read out the non-binding statement on behalf of the 15-member body that "called for an immediate halt to all violence" and on the parties "to stop immediately all military activities." "The members of the Security Council expressed serious concern at the escalation of the situation in Gaza," he said, as the president of the council. The council also requested the opening of border crossings into Gaza to address the serious humanitarian and economic needs in Gaza and to ensure medical treatment and a continuous supply of food and fuel. US representative to the UNSC, Zalmay Khalilzad, defended the Israeli move, saying Tel Aviv has the right to self-defense. "I regret the loss of any of all innocent life," he said, adding that Hamas rockets precipitated this situation. Palestinian fighters in the Gaza Strip say they fire rockets into Israel in retaliation for the daily Israeli attacks against them. Unlike the state-of-the-art Israeli weapons and ammunition, the home-made Qassam rockets rarely cause casualties. The US, a staunch ally to Israel, has so far vetoed over 40 anti-Israeli resolutions sought by the council since 1972. Since 2004, Washington has prevented the adoption of four other resolutions that called for Tel Aviv to halt its operations in the Gaza Strip. http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=79727§ionid=351020202 From r.gillam at comcast.net Mon Dec 29 01:42:22 2008 From: r.gillam at comcast.net (Ragen Gillam) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:42:22 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] FW: Webster Tarpley interviews Philip Berg Message-ID: <20081229064226.9EB506DA1A@six.pairlist.net> I agree with Geri; the house meeting is a great thing, we need more of those. It's quite obvious by now that almost everyone is deeply concerned with our broken health system and the fact that so many have no access to basic health care, etc. But we must be very careful what we wish for, as a single-payer health system run by the government, and influenced by big pharma will likely feature forced vaccinations, limited coverage for alternative treatments, the continued widespread drugging of children and limited access to vitamins and supplements. Please go to IAHF (International Advocates for Health Freedom) to learn about the codex issue, and what we can do to defend DSHEA (The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act): TAKE ACTION Ragen -----Original Message----- From: citizenstruth-bounces at six.pairlist.net [mailto:citizenstruth-bounces at six.pairlist.net] On Behalf Of Geri Perry Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:13 PM To: Hal Snyder Cc: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Webster Tarpley interviews Philip Berg Got to love you Hal, and it's REALLY, REALLY GOOD that the house meeting was "oversubscribed". This neighbor-to-neighbor type of thing is exactly what we all need to engage in, rather than pinning false hopes and investing precious time on a puppet president (NO specific reference to Obama intended, it's just a fact of rigged elections and a rigged political system, as Dennis Kucinich used to say). Becoming, as you say, "involved in a dialogue with people whose views oppose our own rather than isolate such people as enemies" is also more beneficial in the long run than pinning our hopes on a phantom dream like universal health care. But I have to ask, are these house parties filled with people who hold opposing views, or do they mostly agree on the common goal of universal health care - and therefore base their discussion on false assumptions which then limits them to focus on strategy and technique rather than underlying, root issues? One such issue, upon which a plethora of false assumptions are based, has to do with universal health care - which can never be more than a "phantom dream" within the present context. Why? Because a health system that benefits the people and not the corporatists and financiers will NEVER be provided under the current money system - or within the current political system, carefully constructed as it was by the money powers, and otherwise known as the "sovereign power structure that surrounds the Federal Reserve." Hilary showed us that any "universal" health care system will always benefit the money powers - and so did the highly concerted marginalization of Kucinich who had the ONLY people-centered health care proposal ever put forth by any pol. Truth is, DK's people-centered system is impossible in a debt-based money system - but it was WAY better than ANYTHING that will come out of the Obama admin. You can count on it. We have to ask - and seek the REAL answer - for whom did "The tent just get a lot bigger"? It is time to think outside the box, and one crucial method is, as you indicate, to become "involved in a dialogue with people whose views oppose our own . . ." However, please do consider that said dialogue is meaningless unless and until we truly know and can name what it is that harms us. gerip Hal Snyder wrote: > I was at a health care house meeting yesterday. It was one of numerous > (hundreds?) of such meetings across the country called for by the > Obama transition team asking for public input to the health care > dialogue *before* the inauguration. > > The meeting was oversubscribed. It was a great example of grassroots > organizing. Bring people together with a common general concern. Hear > specific stories, brainstorm over solutions, identify skill sets, and > establish a forum for local leadership to emerge. > > Imagine that, an administration inviting us to participate instead of > telling us to go shopping or making us all suspects in the War on Terror. > > Barack Obama comes from a tradition of community organizing that goes > back to Saul Alinsky. This showed in his campaign and it shows in the > appeal to the grassroots we are seeing in the transition agenda. It's > up to us to participate in this opportunity or to continue passively > as critics and outsiders to the process of governance. > > The tent just got a lot bigger. That is going to take some getting > used to. I would much rather be involved in a dialogue with people > whose views oppose mine than isolate them as enemies. > > On Dec 28, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Geri Perry wrote: > >> I do agree that inasmuch as there are "so many urgent constitutional >> violations that are actually threatening us that a person who is >> sincere about the Constitution would be spending their energy on >> those fronts." >> >> However, I strongly disagree that Obama is any way the leader we may >> hope and assume - but perhaps this belief is based on years of >> mainstream news (and individual citizen) reports forwarded to a now >> defunct Kucinich gang which showed Obama in anything but a favorable >> light. Following the Money is a first and major step to getting at >> the heart of those news reports - and the mainstay of Obama's support >> - now and then. >> >> One has to ask: EXACTLY WHAT is it that Obama has EVER done that >> shows a) he will follow through with his promises, b) that he will >> come anywhere NEAR 9-11 questions and c) that he will forsake the >> Money Masters in favor of We the People? Good article which speaks to >> this last question in particluar, by Michel Chossudovsky: >> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10860 >> >> Next we have an article which is an illustration of a pol who may not >> know all the answers, but who at least makes every attempt to avoid >> "speaking with a forked tongue". In addition this article details >> exactly what happened when said pol had the where-with-all to forsake >> the Money Masters: >> http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081215_rep_dennis_kucinich_on_his_batt le_with_the_banks/ >> >> >> Lest you assume that the Cleveland experience caused Kucinich to >> become "more political" watch this video clip, appropriately titled >> "Dennis Kucinich (not Barack Obama) grills Neel Kashari on Bailout >> Scam": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpyf-hS_WgY >> >> And this 33 second video "Kucinich to Kashkari - Who Are You working >> for?" (a question you won't find Obama asking the Money Masters >> anytime soon): >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evpFtFfPWP8&feature=related >> >> This is in no way an ad for Kucinich but the truth is that regardless >> your personal political bent, it is responsive, courageous, truth >> seeking pols like Kucinich - who have demonstrated not only through >> word, but also through action - that We the People need, not >> prevaricators like Obama. >> >> We MUST know and name what harms us, or we will remain forever in >> bondage to the slave masters! >> >> gerip >> >> >> Connie Smith wrote: >>> >>> >>> More than ever, I can't see any sensible reason to pursue this. >>> There are so many urgent constitutional violations that have piled >>> up and are actually threatening us that I would think a person who >>> is sincere about the Constitution would be spending their energy on >>> those fronts. >>> >>> But instead, there's a vendetta-like search for a technicality to >>> un-do probably the only legitimate election process (in terms of >>> votes counted) that we've had in decades. It's petty, vicious, and >>> stupid. >>> >>> If there was any evidence that Obama is some sort of foreign agent >>> trying to sneak into the presidency and, from there, take over the >>> world, maybe it would merit some attention. >>> >>> But to seriously pursue to derail the inauguration of an intelligent >>> guy who's soaked in the values of his American midwestern-roots >>> nurturers, who has a history of humanitarian ideals and actions, who >>> is highly-solution oriented, and who is willing to literally risk >>> his life to take on arguably the hardest job in the world (and >>> probably more temperamentally and intellectually qualified than >>> anyone we've ever had before) -- well, it's an absolutely idiotic >>> effort. It's an outright sinister effort. >>> >>> There ARE extremely serious -- critical -- constitutional issues to >>> work on. SINCERE people will do that. But Berg and buddies have the >>> mentality of assassins and ought to be regarded and treated with the >>> utmost scorn and contempt. >>> >>> Connie >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Rynearson" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:33 AM >>> Subject: [CitizensTruth] Webster Tarpley interviews Philip Berg >>> >>> >>>> December 27, 2008 >>>> >>>> Despite hundreds of news stories to the contrary, Philip Berg's >>>> case before the Supreme Court is still alive. Webster Tarpley talks >>>> to Philip Berg who asks listeners to write to the Supreme Court and >>>> let them know that you care deeply about the constitution and >>>> consider them to be its last defense. >>>> >>>> http://www.radiodujour.com/people/berg_philip/ >>>> >>>> (It will all be over with soon. We can laugh about all of this >>>> waiting together in the food line at the FEMA camp.) > _______________________________________________ > CitizensTruth mailing list > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > website: http://citizenstruth.info _______________________________________________ CitizensTruth mailing list CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth website: http://citizenstruth.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Mon Dec 29 10:05:24 2008 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:05:24 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Energy Dispute Over Rockies Riches Message-ID: <4958E734.1060201@mailbag.com> Ok, just what we need, more cheap planet poison...DS Energy Dispute Over Rockies Riches http://www.truthout.org/122908N Julie Cart, The Los Angeles Times: "A titanic battle between the West's two traditional power brokers - Big Oil and Big Water - has begun. At stake is one of the largest oil reserves in the world, a vast cache trapped beneath the Rocky Mountains containing an estimated 800 billion barrels -- about three times the reserves of Saudi Arabia." From hal at drxyzzy.org Mon Dec 29 13:48:09 2008 From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:48:09 -0600 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Energy Dispute Over Rockies Riches In-Reply-To: <4958E734.1060201@mailbag.com> References: <4958E734.1060201@mailbag.com> Message-ID: About oil shale - here's what I found - feel free to offer corrections. (I didn't see much new in the LATimes article.) Energy yield (i.e. calories you get back for each calorie of energy processing it): 0.7-13.3, which means at the low end you are actually losing energy. Oil shale has less energy per pound than granola, potatoes, recycled phone books, or cattle dung. The name "oil shale" is a misnomer. The hydrocarbon involved is kerogen, a waxlike, low-energy precursor of oil. By my understanding, if you wait a few million years and apply plenty of heat (that is, put more energy into it) it might become crude oil. Water consumption. It takes 1-5 barrels of water to produce one barrel of shale-oil. In Estonia, where 95% of electrical power is generated from oil shale, 91% of the country's water consumption goes toward oil shale. Pollution. Processing produces about 2.5 barrels of oily waste for each barrel of oil recovered. Based on numbers from the Syncrude pond in Alberta, Richard Heinberg estimates a waste lagoon the size of Lake Ontario would be needed if we were to replace the world's oil production completely with shale-oil. Arsenic, phenols, and tar are among the toxins that may be release, mainly via waste water. Greenhouse gases and climate change. Decomposition of kerogen and carbonates release carbon dioxide and methane. And of course the entire effort is to produce more fossil fuels which add to climate change further. Renewability - zero. Sources: Oil Shale: Viable Domestic Energy, Or ?Dirtiest Fuel on the Planet? Oil shale - Wikipedia Environmental impact of oil shale industry - Wikipedia http://www.aspencore.org/images/pdf/OilShale.pdf The Party's Over - Google Book Search On Dec 29, 2008, at 9:05 AM, Daniel Stafford wrote: > Ok, just what we need, more cheap planet poison...DS > > Energy Dispute Over Rockies Riches > http://www.truthout.org/122908N > Julie Cart, The Los Angeles Times: "A titanic battle between the > West's two traditional power brokers - Big Oil and Big Water - has > begun. At stake is one of the largest oil reserves in the world, a > vast cache trapped beneath the Rocky Mountains containing an > estimated 800 billion barrels -- about three times the reserves of > Saudi Arabia." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From futurenotwritten at yahoo.com Mon Dec 29 16:47:22 2008 From: futurenotwritten at yahoo.com (Jay Becker) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:47:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Backed by US: Israeli Massacre in Gaza Message-ID: <319612.31847.qm@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >From revcom.us: Backed by the U.S.: ISRAEL UNLEASHES A MASSACRE IN GAZA By Larry Everest (with research and assistance from other Revolution correspondents) December 28, 2008 Beginning mid-day on Saturday, December 27, waves of U.S.-supplied Israeli warplanes suddenly appeared over the skies of the Palestinian territory of Gaza in broad daylight and unleashed a deadly barrage of bomb and missile attacks that continue as we go to press. This could not be taking place without the approval of the U.S., for whom Israel serves as an enforcer in the Middle East. The U.S.-supplied Israeli F-16 warplanes and Apache helicopters attacked all of Gaza?s main towns, including Gaza City, Khan Younis and Rafah, striking more than 210 targets in the first 24 hours of what Israel threatens will be ?war to the bitter end.? Police stations?located in the middle of civilian areas?government offices, the Islamic University, and many other sites were hit. By Sunday, over 300 had been killed?including many civilians and an estimated 700 wounded. It was the most Palestinians killed in a single day in decades. Eyewitnesses described scenes of terror from the skies, and the horror of seeing loved ones massacred. According to the Associated Press, Palestinian human rights groups said that 20 of the dead were children under 16 and 9 women: ?The Palestinian Center for Human Rights said it was difficult to keep an exact count because of chaos at the hospitals, and difficulty in identifying dismembered bodies.? The UN reported that seven teenage students at a UN vocational college for Palestinian refugees were killed waiting for a bus to take them home. One Palestinian described the scene near the main security headquarters in Gaza when the air strikes began: "People were walking through the streets just like a normal day, children coming home from school. Suddenly, without any warning, the bombing started. We didn't even see the jets in the sky. That's why so many people were killed.... Suddenly people started to run, you saw people running to the ambulances, and the police running everywhere. People were crying. I saw some just sat on the ground against the wall." Even the imperialist, pro-Israel New York Times was forced to note the ?shocking quality to Saturday?s attacks, which began in broad daylight as police cadets were graduating, women were shopping at the outdoor market, and children were emerging from school.? ?The center of Gaza City was a scene of chaotic horror,? the New York Times reported, ?with rubble everywhere, sirens wailing, and women shrieking as dozens of mutilated bodies were laid out on the pavement and in the lobby of Shifa Hospital so that family members could identify them. The dead included civilians, including several construction workers and at least two children in school uniforms. By afternoon, shops were shuttered, funerals began and mourning tents were visible on nearly every major street of this densely populated city.? Al Jazeera (12/28) reported, ?There are two strands of suffering?ordinary Palestinians who are not targeted in these attacks, and those that are. It is a very grim picture for ordinary civilians. They are suffering from fuel outages and a shortage of supplies. About 750,000 people who depend on food distribution by aid agencies have not been able to receive supplies because the agencies cannot operate due to the siege. For those immediately affected by the more than 24-hour bombardment, the picture is even more grim. They need special medical attention and supplies that the hospitals, doctors and medical officials say they simply don't have.? There are reports that Egyptian troops have fired upon Palestinians trying to escape the Israeli bombardment by crossing the southern border of Gaza into Egypt. The U.S.-dependent regime of Hosni Mubarak has been colluding with Israel to keep a tight lid on Palestinians in Gaza. And there are indications that this horrific situation may get even worse. Israel is reportedly considering a ground invasion of Gaza and authorized calling up as many as 6,500 reserves. There are also reports of Israeli drones and aircraft penetrating Lebanese airspace, perhaps in preparation for an attack. All this could even set off a larger war in the region, with even much greater suffering for the people in the region. U.S. and Israel Blame the Victims to Justify Crimes Against Humanity Israeli and U.S. government officials, as well as the U.S. media, claim that Israel?s attack was provoked by rocket attacks by the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas (that controls Gaza) into Israel. The Bush regime called Hamas ?thugs,? blaming Hamas for provoking Israel and demanding it end its rocket attacks?while pointedly refusing to call on Israel to stop its assault. During the campaign, Barack Obama said (of the small-scale Hamas attacks on Israel), ?If somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I?m going to do everything in my power to stop that.? He made clear throughout the campaign, including in what can only be called a bloodthirsty speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), that he supported these same policies. It could well be the case that Israel timed this attack in such a way (before Obama was inaugurated) as to allow Obama to maintain the appearance of being ?above the fray? while in fact being fully on board and supportive of this attack. His silence in face of this massacre speaks loudly indeed. Blaming the Palestinians for the massacre in Gaza turns reality completely upside down. It is a pretext, and justification for mass murder. Israel?s latest attack is the continuation of over 60 years of violent efforts to crush the Palestinian people and break any resistance to Israeli designs?going back to Israel?s founding in 1948 as a settler colonial state and an arm of Western imperialism in the Middle East. This step-by-step campaign of ethnic cleansing began with violently driving some 750,000 Palestinians from their lands during the 1947-48 Arab-Israeli war; the destruction of hundreds of conquered Palestinian villages; the military conquest of the West Bank and Gaza in the 1967 war; the illegal colonialization of these ?occupied territories" afterward, coupled with a steady assault on Palestinian economy and society. Israel claimed each assault was simply a response to Palestinian ?terror,? or refusal to make peace; while each Israeli assault furthered its strategic objectives of destroying Palestine. Most of Gaza?s 1.5 million Palestinians were forced from their homes in other parts of Palestine during the establishment of Israel. From 1967 until 2005, Israel militarily occupied Gaza. After ending the occupation, Israel kept complete control of this desert strip?s land, sea and air borders. Israel sent armored bulldozers to destroy Gaza?s fruit orchards, blockaded the fishing port, cut off supplies to factories and other businesses, and forbid most Gaza residents the right to work elsewhere or even leave. Gaza today is a humanitarian crisis, its population living in prison-like conditions. Hamas?which governs Gaza?is not about liberating Palestine as a secular state free of imperialist domination; it represents forces that would restructure the oppressive relations that enslave the people of Palestine within an Islamic theocratic framework. Hamas has repeatedly proposed long-term truces with Israel and offered to negotiate a permanent truce in order to lift the siege of Gaza. A truce was finally agreed upon in June 2008, under which Hamas agreed to stop missile attacks, and Israel was supposed to end its blockade of Gaza. According to the pro-Israel New York Times, Hamas was "largely successful" in stopping the launches of the Qassam missiles, some of which are carried out by groups other than Hamas. But Israel refused to ease its blockade. Then, on November 4, Israel launched an attack that killed six Palestinians. The next day, it sealed all Gaza?s borders, intensifying what had already been a horrific situation for the people. Israel?s siege has turned Gaza into the world?s largest open-air concentration camp?its impoverished inhabitants are being starved and subject to indescribable suffering. 80% live below the poverty line. About 97% of factories and workshops cannot operate. Gaza?s industrial zone is completely closed. Unemployment is about 50%. In 2006 Israel bombed Gaza's only power plant, making Gaza dependent on power supplies from Israel and Egypt. Fresh drinking water is often not available for days at a time. Irregular power means that sewage treatment plants cannot function and that raw sewage gets dumped into the Mediterranean. Medicines are in short supply, and Israeli bans on travel mean that Palestinians seeking advanced medical care that is not available in Gaza are left to die. (For more on the state of Gaza under siege, see the article from A World to Win News Service, "Gaza: Tottering on the Brink," in Revolution #150, available online at revcom.us) In light of all this, the claims by Israel and the U.S. that the current bloody invasion is a ?response? to small-scale and largely ineffective rocket attacks on Israel from Gaza are obscene. They are like the method the U.S. used to justify the genocide of Native Americans by settlers and the military: according to the official narrative, that story ?began? with claims of the first Native American scalping of some settler family or soldier?and then anything goes to ?respond? to what is declared an atrocity. What came before?what provoked the scalping, the genocidal lies and brutality visited upon the indigenous peoples, and America?s actual agenda of forcible conquest and colonialization?all this is ignored and covered up. Even by its own terms, Israel?s longstanding policies of near-starvation, and the current massive reign of death from the air are violations of international law?serving as ?collective punishment? against the entire population of Gaza. This collective punishment of all Gaza residents is contrary to the Fourth Geneva Convention and is illegal under international law. Article 55 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, for example, states that "to the fullest extent of the means available to it, the Occupying Power has the duty of ensuring the food and medical supplies of the population; it should, in particular, bring in the necessary foodstuffs, medical stores and other articles if the resources of the occupied territory are inadequate." Mass Opposition Needed Here, and Now! Israel has served as U.S. imperialism?s unsinkable aircraft carrier and regional enforcer in the Middle East for decades, and the U.S. has been Israel?s staunchest backer, providing it with billions of dollars a year in aid. And, with the ?war on terror??in reality a war for empire?Israel?s strategic relationship with the U.S. has become even more pivotal. According to the U.S. Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation, in addition to supplying the F16 fighter jets and the missiles used in Israel?s recent attack, the U.S. transferred more than $200 million worth of spare parts for Israel?s fleet of F16's between 2001-2006. ?In July 2008, the United States gave Israel 186 million gallons of JP-8 aviation jet fuel. Last year, the United States signed a $1.3 billion contract with Raytheon to transfer to Israel thousands of TOW, Hellfire, and ?bunker buster? missiles.? And according to U.S. government officials, the U.S. was fully informed ahead of time of Israeli plans and apparently gave them a green light. In short, Israel?s massacre and its ongoing crimes against the people of Gaza could not have happened without U.S. support?and people living in the U.S. have the responsibility to oppose the crimes of ?our? government. Protests have erupted across the Middle East, and there have also been protests (with more planned) in the U.S. and Europe. There needs to be massive, visible political opposition to the U.S.-sponsored assault on Gaza, here, and now. Silence and acquiescence to these crimes in any form is complicity. The world needs to see that within the U.S., there are people who are not going along with the crimes being sponsored by their government. Send us your comments. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From futurenotwritten at yahoo.com Mon Dec 29 17:55:57 2008 From: futurenotwritten at yahoo.com (Jay Becker) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:55:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Emergency mtg Tues, 7 pm at Rev Books Message-ID: <340855.65042.qm@web33504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Revolution Books/Libros Revoluci?n EMERGENCY MEETING on the Israeli Massacre in Gaza Tuesday, Dec. 30, 7 pm at Revolution Books On Saturday, December 27,?U.S.-supplied Israeli warplanes suddenly unleashed a deadly barrage of bomb and missile attacks on the Palestinian Territory of Gaza.??The U.S.-supplied Israeli F-16 warplanes and Apache helicopters attacked all of Gaza's main towns,?striking more than 210 targets, killing over 300 people,?and wounding over 700 in the first 24 hours of what Israel threatens will be "war to the bitter end." We Must Respond to the Assault on the People of Palestine. There needs to be massive, visible political opposition to the U.S.-sponsored assault on Gaza, here, and now.?Silence and acquiescence to these crimes in any form is complicity. The world needs to see that within the U.S. there are people who are not going along with the crimes being sponsored by their government. Come to an emergency meeting at Revolution Books Tuesday night to discuss the situation,?what is?happening and why, and how?to join with and build mass resistance to?this massacre as part of building a revolutionary movement.? Read the?article below.? Email this out to others.? Bring your outrage, questions, ideas. Backed by the U.S.: ISRAEL UNLEASHES A MASSACRE IN GAZA >From December 29 Revolution newspaper online edition Beginning mid-day on Saturday, December 27, waves of U.S.-supplied Israeli warplanes suddenly appeared over the skies of the Palestinian territory of Gaza in broad daylight and unleashed a deadly barrage of bomb and missile attacks that continue as we go to press. This could not be taking place without the approval of the U.S., for whom Israel serves as an enforcer in the Middle East. The U.S.-supplied Israeli F-16 warplanes and Apache helicopters attacked all of Gaza's main towns, including Gaza City, Khan Younis and Rafah, striking more than 210 targets in the first 24 hours of what Israel threatens will be "war to the bitter end." Police stations-located in the middle of civilian areas-government offices, the Islamic University, and many other sites were hit. By Sunday, over 300 had been killed-including many civilians and an estimated 700 wounded. It was the most Palestinians killed in a single day in decades.? Read entire article... Thursday, January 1, 2 pm - Film Showing of The Visitor This film by director/writer Thomas McCarthy gives viewers a glimpse into the lives of immigrants held in a windowless warehouse-like detention center. But it's much more than that. The simple and moving film tells the story of four people whose lives become intertwined. There's Walter, a 62-year-old white economics professor going aimlessly through life, Tarek, a drummer from Syria, Zainab, his Senegalese girlfriend who sells handmade jewelry at flea markets, and Tarek's mother, Mouna. As the film unfolds, the characters interact and bring into each other's lives part of the picture of this world we live in, in ways that are surprising but also real. When a disaster happens, Walter is compelled to decide whether he will stand with Tarek, Zainab and Mouna or look away from what is happening. 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URL: From edward_rynearson at yahoo.com Mon Dec 29 21:49:11 2008 From: edward_rynearson at yahoo.com (Edward Rynearson) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:49:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Military may have to quell domestic violence from economic collapse Message-ID: <356213.46868.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Report: Military may have to quell domestic violence from economic collapse 12/29/2008 @ 3:39 pm Filed by Nick Juliano Deepening economic strife in the US could lead to civil unrest and violence that would require military intervention, warns a new report from the US Army War College. "Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security," writes Nathan Freier, a 20-year Army veteran and visiting professor at the college. A copy of the 44-page report, "Known Unknowns: Unconventional 'Strategic Shocks' in Defense Strategy Development," can be downloaded here. Freier notes that his report expresses only his own views and does not represent US policy, but it's certain that his recommendations have come before at least some Defense Department officials. The author warns potential causes for such civil unrest could include another terrorist attack, "unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency, pervasive public health emergencies, and catastrophic natural and human disasters." The situation could deteriorate to the point where military intervention was required, he argues. "Under these conditions and at their most violent extreme," he concludes, "civilian authorities, on advice of the defense establishment, would need to rapidly determine the parameters defining the legitimate use of military force inside the United States." While the scenario presented is "likely not an immediate prospect," Freier concedes, it deserves consideration. Prior to 9/11, no one in the defense establishment would have envisioned a plot to topple skyscrapers with airliners, and the military should not be caught so off-guard again, he says. To the extent events like this involve organized violence against local, state, and national authorities and exceed the capacity of the former two to restore public order and protect vulnerable populations, DoD would be required to fill the gap," he writes. "This is largely uncharted strategic territory." Freier's report has merited some concern as it comes alongside revelations that the Defense Department has assigned a full-time Army unit to be on-call for domestic deployment. An article in Monday's El Paso Times notes that military and police officials in Texas are unaware of team-up efforts such as those suggested in the report. Arizona authorities told the Phoenix Business Journal they are similarly unaware of any new plans, although the Phoenix Police Department made clear its officers "always train to prepare for any civil unrest issue." The Posse Comitatus Act restricts the military's role in domestic law enforcement, but it does not completely preclude involvement in cases of emergency or when emergency law is declared. As of now, though, such scenarios seem unlikely. The bulk of Freier's report recommends refocusing Defense Department strategy toward thinking outside the box, in general, and the unlikely possibility of domestic deployments is just one longshot example he uses to illustrate a worst case scenario. http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Report_Military_may_have_to_quell_1229.html (On one hand we have economic collapse, and on the other hand we have "hope" we can't pay for)