[CitizensTruth] Reverend Wright tells too much truth for Obamaandthe establishment
Connie Smith
dimension04 at sbcglobal.net
Tue May 6 16:02:35 EDT 2008
Well, I know I'm right about UFOs too, but I don't blast away in the media about it anymore out of respect for our 9/11 Truth cause. It's pure ego, IMO, to be associated with another cause like a politician or a movement -- and yet just blast away without any regard for the other cause.
I wrote elsewhere that Wright could have gracefully accepted Obama's reasonable response that he doesn't agree with his pastor about everything, like most people don't agree with their pastors about everything. Then Wright could've sat down and wrote out his truth for publication after the political season is over -- with both causes being served and without one being so damaged.
Wright is right on the issues, but now I find his behavior and his judgment to be appalling. If he's pissed off at Obama "for not agreeing on everything," then he is acting out with childish vengeance. And if he's trying to actually destroy Obama, what does that say about his character?
I would have hoped that Wright was mature enough and wise enough to not do so much harm.
Connie
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Kirk
To: Citizens Truth
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Reverend Wright tells too much truth for Obamaandthe establishment
The MSM usually does tell the truth - 5- 6 years after the fact when nobody is paying attention anymore. They are looking at the new MSM "crisis".
For the MSM, the truth doesn't sell - only lies appear to have value anymore.
Much of what Wright said is true -> Wright is right.
-Mike
Geri Perry <geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com> wrote:
I have to disagree. Some key points to consider:
*** The truth is that absolutely anyone can be labeled as one of the
crazies by the media, even "alternative" media - when the purpose suits
the elite agenda. The list of examples here are absolutely endless. (a
good book to read about elite orchestration of "L'Infamie" is Pawns in
the Game by William Guy Carr)
**** Wright was giving a sermon to a relatively limited audience, and
yet it magically becomes "national" news overnight. Odd isn't it, how
that happens? Why didn't stories of the 2000 unconstitutional selection
of the current WH resident or the rampant vote fraud occurring all over
the US especially in 2004 make endless MSM rounds. Or how about the many
attempts to "open debate" by Mark Crispin Miller or Bob Fritakis, or
Paul Craig Roberts or - well, you get the picture. There are many more
examples from the memory hole that list comes from.
**** If one listens to Wright's sermon, there actually is very little
controversy in it, especially if one has done their homework so to
speak. Moreover his MESSAGE was universal. But your point that
discretion -about things like UFOs for example is well taken. However,
there is probably a reasonable way to bring even that topic forward,
given the fact the Larry King and the history channel have both recently
done several shows on it.
*** We are being manipulated by Mainstream media into believing we have
a voice in the election with slogans like "Decision 2008". How much more
will it take before we fully understand that our elections are rigged
FROM START TO FINISH. This is the main (but far from the only) reason
why no honest, truth-telling candidate, like Dennis Kucinich - and to a
lesser extent IMO - Ron Paul ever gets any real traction.
***Obama is full of compromises, not just with the distancing of his
"beloved" pastor. These compromises appear in his voting record, his
prevarications on a variety of issues including 9-11, his relationship
with Rezco and a whole lot more. His history shows none of the boldness
of JFK. Certainly none of the integrity shown by Dennis Kucinich or the
articulate outspokeness of Ron Paul. And yet he appears out of nowhere
four years ago - as "junior Senator from Illinois"- to give the keynote
speech at the Democratic Convention.
*** We have to learn to stop censoring ourselves and each other. To wit,
WHO CARES WHAT MSM TELLS US? WE KNOW THAT ODDS ARE IT'S ALL A BIG FAT
LIE. It really is with each other, through our churches and whatever
other forum we can find that we must communicate the truth to the best
of our abilities.
gerip
Connie Smith wrote:
> I guess Wright eventually decided it's okay to sink Obama in order to
> get out his own message. If it did some good, I'd say "Amen" to this
> truth-spouting preacher.
>
> But all that Wright is accomplishing is being painted as a wacko (like
> us!) And the good that I think Obama could do, having observed him up
> close when he was a state legislator, gets tanked.
>
> The media controls impressions, it doesn't really convey information.
> It doesn't matter how thoroughly Wright explains himself or how
> accurate he is on these shocking matters -- most people are left with
> the desired, negative, wacko impression of him -- so that the truth
> doesn't get out.
>
> I mean, we don't all go spouting the reality of UFOs from the rooftops
> -- out of respect for our 9/11 movement's credibility and in
> consideration of the public's unreadiness. But Wright suddenly didn't
> care about any of that sort of wisdom. In fact I think he's set back
> the RESPONSIBLE release of information by some years at least. "Oh if
> you believe any of that, you're just like that awful, wild-eyed
> Chicago preacher! What was his name?"
>
> I have felt that Obama might be like JFK in that Kennedy did and said
> certain things to get elected, but then he started acting
> independently -- against the corporate-military interests and for the
> people -- once he was in office. (So of course they blew off his head.)
>
> Wright has been right but then he went all-out reckless. I don't
> think truth should be a hammer that harms but a light that shines.
> He's blown that.
>
> And in reaction -- which should have been further avoided -- Obama has
> been driven to compromise himself.
>
> Now a totally sick situation, in my opinion.
>
> Connie
> I think Obama would ultimately reign in Israel, by the way. Just look
> at the views of one his top advisers!
> http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12937
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geri Perry"
>
> To: "Citizens Truth"
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 6:18 PM
> Subject: [CitizensTruth] Reverend Wright tells too much truth for
> Obama andthe establishment
>
>
>> The good reverend may not have the whole picture (who does?) but the
>> one he does have is a WHOLE lot better than the treacherous pablum of
>> Obama etal. .
>>
>> Here's a recent Glenn Beck program, purportedly dissecting Wright's
>> "craziness" by showing Wright "in his own words", to wit:
>>
>> "The government lied"about Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, Tuskeegee,
>> Cambodia, Iran/Contra, state sponsored terrorism, inventing HIV as a
>> means of depopulating "brown" people, 9-11 and Iraqi "Freedom" and
>> more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ8-ghRddNI&feature=related
>>
>> Hmmmm - doesn't sound so crazy to me.
>>
>> For those interested here is a complete audio versions of the
>> original "9-11" sermon titled The Day of Jerusalem's Fall, the day
>> that "the people moved from reverence to revenge, from worship to
>> war, from hatred of armed enemies to hatred of unarmed innocents":
>> http://odeo.com/audio/17889043/view
>>
>> The good Reverend's conclusion: this is the time for self examination
>> and social transformation, a time to be grateful that the lord has
>> given us another chance. Such crazy talk!!
>>
>> Despite his alleged "craziness" I for one think that this truth
>> teller deserves a medal, not character assassination delivered
>> compliments of Obama etal.
>>
>> gerip
>>
>>
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