[CitizensTruth] does it matter who "wins" the election? [was: Philip Berg Obama ...]

Hal Snyder hal at drxyzzy.org
Mon Nov 3 06:45:03 EST 2008


1. Of course Barack Obama is not the answer. We are the answer.
Voting someone into or out of office and then walking away until next
election is hardly democracy, rule by the people.

Frances Moore Lappe calls the present imitation product "thin
democracy":

Thin Democracy is an unworkable mental map that keeps us from coming
to terms with local-to-global crises. This inherited map includes
such ideas as: democracy is something that is done to or for us by
distant officials; it is a set system of an elected government plus a
market economy; public life is ugly and alienating, so that even the
most thoughtful citizens are relegated to simply voting, working and
shopping. A single rule—the highest return to shareholders—continues
to drive the market, which tends to concentrate wealth and power,
which in turn influence the political process.

<http://awakeningcharlotte.com/content/2008/11/02/an-interview-with-
frances-moore-lappe/>

2. It matters a lot who the winners are on Nov 4. Steve Bhaerman
explains in "'Mandate' for Political Climate Change". It's a long
article, but I doubt we have short ways to describe the process yet.

I believe the choice we face in the coming weeks and months is so
profound that even the "apolitical" need to be awakened. ... I also
got a few emails suggesting that Obama is part of the same
dysfunctional system, himself a tool of empire, so what difference
will it make to vote for him? ...

You might rightly ask, "Isn't Barack Obama in bed with the likes of
Zbigniew Brzezinski, and the same power structure George Bush is part
of?" Yes and no. Paradoxically, part of being functional is being
part of the empire. ...

<http://heartlandsecurity.blogspot.com/2008/10/mandate-for-political-
climate-change.html>

On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Deanna Spingola wrote:


> I recognize that some people think Obama is the answer to our

> problems. "Change," as promised throughout his campaign is a bit

> too trite and has been repeatedly used by others.

>

> The usual process of delegate selection was not used at the

> Democratic Convention. The California, close to the start, opted

> out. Clinton's supporters were called out for a special meeting and

> were not present when Pelosi and Clinton orchestrated a verbal vote

> as requested by Clinton before they even got to New York. This is

> totally against Robert's Rules of Order. The Clinton supporters

> were not there to reject or support. A short time before the

> convention, the Arkansas super Clinton delegate, Bill Gwatney, was

> shot and killed. His assailant was immediately apprehended and

> shot. This certainly sends a message.

>

> Obama has some interesting supporters: Soros, Brzezinski, and other

> questionable characters. Vote fraud has been proven to many

> people's satisfaction in Ohio in 2004 and Florida in 2000. If Obama

> were the person so many people think he is, he would have been

> neutralized. The mass media would also be addressing the birth

> certificate issue which, despite some opinions, is serious. If he

> were indeed born in Kenya, this could lead to a constitutional

> crisis for those of us who still consider that document significant.

>

> Nothing will change. It does not matter who "wins" the election.

> The only way to change things is if the distracted masses turn off

> the TV, unplug their I-pods and recognize what is going on.

> Enlightenment about 9/11 might assist. But the mass media is a big

> factor. He who controls a nations money decides everything. He who

> controls the mass media controls what everyone thinks and believes.

>

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