[CitizensTruth] does it matter who "wins" the election? [was:Philip Berg Obama ...]

Geri Perry geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com
Mon Nov 3 17:22:33 EST 2008


Good discussion, IMO. and right up my ally.

Here's my 2 cents.

first, and as i understand it, our founding fathers were opposed to full
"democracies" as these were overly susceptible to "mob rule" where the
least among us can too easily be ignored. What we have is a "democratic
republic" (as Jefferson would have described it) which takes away divine
right from kings and would be dictators (or optimally, similarly-minded
presidents) and gives sovereignty to average citizens through such
things as an emphasis on state and local government, limited federal
government, the Bill of Rights, jury nullification and the like.

The "new legal regime" of the Reconstruction Amendments, and the
subsequent sovereign power structure surrounding the Fed marked the
beginning of the end of that original vision (and the truly awesome gift
of citizen sovereignty). Both the new legal regime and the sovereign
power structure surrounding the Fed were patiently and painstakingly put
in place by the money trusts, as was the Great Depression out of which
was born the Emergency Banking Act of 1933 - which made American
citizen's into enemies of the state.

The National Bank Act of 1864, the Fed Act of 1913 and the New Deal
provided the means by which the new Sovereign Power Structure could
expand and since FDR we have - for all intents and purposes - descended
into an Unconstitutional dictatorship. This view was supported by Frank
Church's 1973 Senate Report 94-359 on Emergency War powers which had
been in effect since 1933. The National Emergency Termination Act of
1976 was supposed to end all that, but of course it didn't.

gerip


Deanna Spingola wrote:

> Despite popular misconceptions, our government is a representative

> Republic (not a democracy). In both democracies and Republics people

> vote. That single act does not make you free. Those who finagle their

> way into office are supposed to represent the voters who allegedly put

> them there. They are also supposed to sustain an invariable written

> law – the Constitution which mandates civil law and our response to

> it. The non-negotiable Constitution is our explicit gauge of right and

> wrong, applicable to all without special considerations for

> occupations such as politicians, sports stars or “insider” corporate

> criminals. Since Woodrow Wilson, we have descended into a Socialistic

> democracy (adaptable mob rule, adjustable laws and poll driven public

> opinions). All democracies, in which selective enforcement of law is

> rampant, are short lived, for they typically morph into oppressive

> tyrannies.

> Whenever laws are passed, under whatever form, if they do not

> represent the will of the majority of the people or their desires,

> then they represent oppression. America today has an oppressive

> government because it passes laws against the will of the people.

> Thus, we no longer have a Republic. A strong case can be made that

> America in the 21st century is an Empire, as was Britain in the 19th.

> Any government that would even consider an issue as ludicrous as hate

> crimes, the concept of policing thought, is in very serious jeopardy.

> Of the three branches of government, only the legislative branch is

> authorized to make law. Presidential executive orders have been

> unconstitutionally used to make law. The Judicial branch, the Supreme

> Court, is supposed to interpret the constitutionality of a law.

> Rather, they invent new interpretations never envisioned by the

> founding fathers. It is the duty of the Supreme Court to interpret the

> constitution as ratified by the states, not to invent preposterous

> meanings which were not originally intended by the authors. The

> judiciary makes law through changing precedents as well as by

> invention, neither of which are constitutionally authorized.

> The foregoing is from one of my articles.

>

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