[CitizensTruth] fluvaccine and nerve cells (2)
Kris Knight
welaware at merr.com
Sat Aug 8 23:09:27 EDT 2009
>
> Here is the second installment of this review, which looks at the
> role of endotoxins contained in vaccines either as contaminants or
> in the adjuvant material, and the potential synergistic effects of
> endotoxins, adjuvants, and HA in activity against nerve cells.
>
> There is also an interesting discussion at the fluwiki link on this
> material, which is not included here. Also, you'll need to go to
> that link to access the charts and the other hotlinks.
>
> Char
> _______________________
>
> http://www.newfluwiki2.com/diary/3625/guillainbarre-syndrome-after-influenza-vaccination-more-lessons-from-1976
>
> Guillain-Barre Syndrome after Influenza Vaccination - More Lessons
> from 1976
>
> by: SusanC
>
> Mon Jul 27, 2009 at 19:45:18 PM EDT
>
> A follow-up to Swine Flu 1976 - Old Vaccines, New Lessons?
> SusanC :: Guillain-Barre Syndrome after Influenza Vaccination - More
> Lessons from 1976
> The 1976 vaccine was correlated with an increased incidence of GBS,
> which, according to a recent study described earlier, may be due to
> molecular mimicry, between the HA molecule and human gangliosides,
> proteins that permeate our nervous system.
> Ideally one would want to repeat the study and confirm the findings,
> at least, but we are in a pandemic, and tptb are in a rush to
> provide vaccines for millions of people. In the absence of further
> data, is there anything we can learn, even tentatively?
>
>
> If HA is indeed a biological mimic, it could account for the very
> small but increased incidence of GBS after flu vaccines in general,
> and the 1976 one in particular. The effect of biological mimicry
> is, by definition, dependent on how closely the molecules are
> similar. To the extent that different HAs from different flu
> viruses have slight differences in conformation, they would probably
> have varying degrees of mimicry, such that vaccines made from these
> HAs may therefore have varying ability to induce GBS. Which is
> compatible with the varying incidence of GBS reported after seasonal
> flu vaccinations in different years. (see Haber 2004, Guillain-
> Barré Syndrome Following Influenza Vaccination)
> As an extension of that, can we also say that any HA that is similar
> to 1976 (like the current H1N1) may be more likely to induce GBS?
> We can't answer that question, because we don't know what other
> components are/were important in the pathogenesis of GBS in 1976.
>
> For example, it was widely believed that the 1976 vaccine had a
> particularly high endotoxin content, a bacterial by-product (or
> impurity) of the vaccine manufacturing process, which may have
> contributed to the higher GBS rate.
>
> One very interesting study Geier 2003, Influenza vaccination and
> Guillain Barre syndrome had the following findings:
>
>
> increased risk of acute GBS and severe GBS after influenza
> vaccination as compared to adult tetanus-diphtheria (Td) vaccine -
> which was chosen as control since an IOM review concluded "the
> evidence favored a causal relationship" between GBS and Td
> vaccination.
>
> Influenza vaccines contained from a 125- to a 1250-fold increase in
> endotoxin concentrations in comparison to an adult Td vaccine control
>
> Endotoxin concentrations varied up to 10-fold among different lots
> and manufacturers of influenza vaccines, as shown in the chart
> [see chart at above fluwiki link]
>
>
> There was statistically significant variation in the incidence of
> reported GBS after vaccination from vaccines from the different
> manufacturers. Unfortunately, the identity of specific
> manufacturers for this test could not be revealed, as the CDC deemed
> this information to be 'proprietary and confidential' ;-( , hence we
> cannot determine from the data whether those vaccines with higher
> endotoxin content were associated with higher GBS report rates.
> Nevertheless, the authors still concluded that
>
> The biologic mechanism for GBS following influenza vaccine may
> involve the synergistic effects of endotoxin and vaccine-induced
> autoimmunity.
> Here, the question gets interesting, because different kinds of
> bacterial endotoxins, eg from E. coli, have been used as vaccine
> adjuvants. The intranasal flu vaccine thatcaused a spate of Bell's
> palsy cases leading to its withdrawal, was adjuvanted with endotoxin
> from E. coli. The novel adjuvant AS04, made by GSK and used in
> Hepatitis B (Fendrix) and HPV (Cervarix) vaccines in Europe, also
> contains MPL, which, according to this paper with a rather
> triumphant title, Vaccine adjuvants: the dream becomes real, "comes
> from the cell wall LPS (=lipopolysaccharide) of Gram-negative
> Salmonella minnesota R595".
>
> In other words, if endotoxin was a significant factor in vaccine-
> induced GBS in 1976, the whole episode may have been a demonstration
> of the effect of a naturally-occuring adjuvant on induction of
> autoimmunity.
>
> Here's my question. And please don't fault me for asking
> 'rhetorical' questions - I'm asking them because they are real, I
> don't know the answer, but the answer may be relevant to our
> assessment of the safety of using novel adjuvants in flu vaccines in
> the current pandemic.
>
> If endotoxin was acting as an adjuvant and was partly responsible
> for the increased incidence of GBS in 1976, would much more powerful
> vaccine adjuvants deliberately formulated to enhance the immune
> response to the HA (and to a lesser degree NA), aka MF59 or AS03,
> also enhance the biological mimicry to such a degree that the risk
> of GBS would again be dramatically increased? Since we (or at least
> I) don't know the relative potency of the endotoxin content of the
> 1976 vaccine possibly acting as adjuvant, as compared to MF59 or
> AS03, I don't believe we can give even a rough assessment, of the
> potential for GBS, before large scale vaccination happens, right?
>
> Does that scare you? It does me. Not personally, but on a
> population level, the effect could be catastrophic.
>
> __________
>
> btw, any correlation between
> endotoxin concentration and rate of GBS being reported, is important
> for a specific and important reason - it can potentially demonstrate
> a dose-response relationship, which according to this (and other)
> product liability consultancy, is a fundamental requirement for
> making liability exposure assessment.
> Which is a good example of the kind of issues that increasingly
> underlie major areas of scientific research...
>
Kris Knight of WellAware Life Enhancement Center
Phone: 1-608-ALL-LIFE
welaware at merr.com
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