[CitizensTruth] Obama as change vs. more-o-same-Empire-guy

[Janice Matthews]

Yeah, I'm afraid I agree here and would like to be shown what's changing 
for human beings under the Obama Regime. I still see him as the new, 
much more eloquent, convincing, and thus dangerous, face of the 
desperate and crumbling Empire. USA Today reports this national poll 
today, showing 2/3 of Americans want investigation (and nearly half of 
those want prosecution) : 
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-02-11-investigation-poll_N.htm 
. I would like to see investigation/prosecution begin, rather than 
hearing "I prefer to be forward-looking but will let Eric Holder decide 
whether to prosecute." (The same Eric Holder who managed to keep 
OKC/Kenny Trentadue's death under wraps, and those perpetrators to go 
free? great...)

That does not look, at all, like change to me. Further, Jason Leopold 
(ConsortiumNews.com) just published an excellent piece called "Torture 
Report Erodes Bush's Defense." And Jonathan Turley and other 
Constitutional lawyers (remember, Obama is one...) are stating firmly 
that he /must/ prosecute or he will be guilty of the same! The Raytheon 
executive in charge of the Pentagon finances when it was announced 
(9/10/01) they'd lost 3.2 TRILLION DOLLARS from the Pentagon budget has 
been appointed BY OBAMA as Deputy Defense Secretary 
(www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12291 
<http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102460153564&e=001KoGnquAjw2k0H9H53TBPRgryQD4Ddwo-D5lYHVFOKlzSf63qvZTEtVuZcamJHADHe1LwSAH5W7qtHN7Xzk1YM0J9Uz4niHPEVzuZLCzyySnX4N-TC0lPrFCCva8H7_Nt2q_HBy3ccZ-UhsnbG8t-MzQGLEYQzCYww4WjJ-I8DYM=> 
). I could go on and on about who he's appointed, but won't. Oh, and he 
just sent more drones into Pakistan and killed another 60 "terrorists."

Honestly, I simply do not understand how people can see this as a string 
of positive events, though I'm willing to listen if there's some truth 
and reality I'm not seeing ... top-down convincing people that they 
should "sign up" to organize repairing the nation feels to me like 
convincing the worker-bees to produce more, to bolster the company's 
future, while selling the assembly-line products to powers destroying 
the world... "Produce more of these genetic seeds... they're good for 
the world." kind of thing. He may be eloquent, but my opinion is that 
makes him a more believable liar. Look at what he's DOING, not what he's 
saying.

And frankly, what's the question here... If I beat my children, and am 
caught (and admit it on national television), I would be arrested and 
tried for it. No question. If I did it to hundreds (or thousands) of 
people, I'd make front page headlines, endless hours on the 24-7-news 
channels, and fear to walk the streets, lest people beat/kill me for my 
heinous crimes. So really. What's the difference?! I simply do not 
understand people having any question about this whatsoever!! Crime -> 
investigation -> admission -> trial -> sentencing. Period. No matter why 
we feel the need to consider whether we should push for prosecution, the 
fact that we're having to "consider whether" to prosecute is what needs 
to be looked at!

Thanks for listening...
Janice

Jay Becker wrote:

> In what ways is the Obama administration "restoring control of the 

> government to the people"? Not some words dug up from a speech that 

> appeals to our prejudices but in fact, in deeds. The wars continue and 

> are being expanded, despite the fact that millions have voted for the 

> Democrats in two election cycles as a vote to end those wars. The 

> bail-out? Commentators across the political spectrum agree that it is 

> essentially the same approach that the Bush administration took, with 

> a few revisions. Ending renditions? Last week the Obama Dept. of 

> Justice (!) went into court and argued just what the Bush DoJ had: 

> "Don't let lawsuits by detainees seeking redress for the crimes 

> committed against them go forward because they will expose state 

> secrets" - namely, the crimes against international law this 

> government wants to continue behind the veil of state secrets!

>

> If we go along with all this because of a few crumbs thrown our way 

> (precious few, in fact), then we are indeed complicit with that, and 

> much more.

>

> "On the inauguration, crimes...and complicity"

> By Bob Avakian

>

> http://www.revcom.us/a/157/Avakian_on_Obama-en.html

>

>

>

>

> * *//Stop thinking like an American,

> Start thinking about humanity!

>

>

> --- On *Mon, 2/16/09, Hal Snyder /<hal at drxyzzy.org>/* wrote:

>

>     From: Hal Snyder <hal at drxyzzy.org>

>     Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Icke on Obama

>     To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net

>     Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 7:15 AM

>

>     David Icke is an interesting phenomenon. He can be insightful,

>     charismatic, absurd, and hateful. I don't think he makes a strong

>     case against Obama.

>

>     Barack Obama and his administration clearly present a mixed picture.

>

>     However, in response to Icke's charge that he is working to

>     control the masses, there is ample evidence that Obama wants to

>     restore control of the government to the people. We see attempts

>     at taking community organizing to a national level. Community

>     organizing is the opposite of top-down mind control. It is based

>     on encouraging people to develop their own power.

>

>     /... a viable organization can only be achieved if a broadly based

>     indigenous leadership — and not one or two charismatic leaders —

>     can knit together the diverse interests of their local institutions/

>     - Barack Obama

>

>     References:

>

>     Documentary, DAVID ICKE: The Lizards and the Jews

>     http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2912878405399014351

>

>     change.gov

>     usaservice.org

>

>     Why Organize? Problems and Promise in the Inner City - by Barack

>     Obama, 1990.

>     http://www.edwoj.com/Alinsky/AlinskyObamaChapter1990.htm

>

>     On Feb 16, 2009, at 12:44 AM, andrew ritter wrote:

>

>>     I'm sure there are a variety of opinions on David Icke, but I

>>     think he has some pretty solid arguments against Obama.  I have

>>     included some highlights below.  Full posting is very long and

>>     sometimes wanders, but also has a lot of indisputable facts &

>>     worth a read here:

>>

>>     Barack Obama: The Naked Emperor

>>     http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/18281

>>

>>

>>     ...

>>     I worked in television for more than a decade, often reading

>>     autocue while a director spoke in my ear telling me what cameras

>>     to look at. I have, since the early 1990s, spoken my truth

>>     on public stages across the world. I know, therefore, the

>>     difference between artificial autocue delivery and body language

>>     and talking from the heart without a script. Obama, I repeat, is

>>     coming from the autocue, not the heart.

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