[CitizensTruth] Obama as change vs. more-o-same-Empire-guy

[Geri Perry]

Kris etal:

Here's my stab at your queries:

RE: where do I put my money? 

MY Answer: The ABSOLUTE best and one of the easiest places is locally 
and responsibly produced REAL food! (by Local I mean regional)

RE: where do I put my attention, my fascination, my gratitude?

MY Answer: Searching for TRUTH. Also and just as important: Family, 
friends and community, and "nature's God" or however YOU choose to 
describe it. Also taking the time to experience joy in the REALLY 
important things, like a chemtrail-free blue sky, listening to the wind 
in the leaves, the birds in the trees, water running in a stream, 
picking raspberries, a friendly or helpful gesture no matter who 
provides it- you get the picture.

RE: What do you fill your daily brain/mind workings with?

MY Answer: Well, I focus on how to best communicate results from my 
personal truth-seeking endeavors, and most especially the manner in 
which "honest" money is the ONLY way to pull the world from the abyss - 
about which Jefferson was correct: “Money is the agent by which modern 
nations will recover their rights.”

RE: what is the ratio?

MY Answer: Not important IMO. so long as I make sure to leave enough 
down time, which varies from week to week and month to month.

RE: WHAT DO I EMANATE INTO THE ENERGETIC WORLD??? 

MY Answer: Hmmmm. . . See above about taking joy in the important things.

Also I do my best to try to live by my "code": #1. whenever you point a 
finger toward what you BELIEVE to be the source of a problem, always 
look to where your other fingers are pointing. #2. Judge them by the 
fruit they bear. #3. Evaluate the message, not the messenger. (#2 is 
what is most troubling about Obama, as some others have also indicated, 
but I now pretty much regard him as a side issue - the real one being to 
find ways to empower each of us so that we become functioning members of 
We the People)

I might add a #4 to the above, and that is to recognize that not only do 
we all have flaws but also that there WILL be disagreement (and thus 
negativity) between us - most importantly because of the arenas and 
levels of real truth we as individuals have managed to accumulate. So 
long as we follow the first three rules, continually try to find better 
ways to communicate - and work through differences we'll be OK, and the 
negativity created by false differences (based on false assumptions and 
lack of full information) will eventually turn to trust and faith in 
each other. If we try to shut down honest, open and sincere discourse, 
any and all differences will increase and negativity will turn to hatred.

RE: If I looked into your eyes right now, what would I see, what would 
they tell me? 

MY Answer: A deep and abiding belief that we the people - as misled, 
uniformed, angry, distrustful and full of flaws as we may be - can and 
will do everything we can to make this world a better place. (I do have 
to occasionally take time to remind myself of this when negativity seems 
to be taking over my mindscape, hence the need for downtime)

RE: If you put your hand on me right now, what would that contact tell me? 

MY Answer: You are enormously generous and compassionate - AND you have 
a deep and abiding desire to make the world a better place. (And I 
believe this partly because I am lucky enough to have met you and partly 
because of your participation in this forum)

gerip


Kris Knight wrote:

> All great points, and thank you.  Just keeping up with the facts is 

> formidable, much less having an educated opinion about things...   But 

> I would also ask...in what ways can we move forward without putting so 

> much energy into being steered by those in politics?  We are 

> surrounded by negativity, including much coming from within our ranks 

> which feeds the collective of negativity.  HOW can we withdraw our 

> energy from that and INVEST our energy in redirecting outcomes TOWARD 

> positive?  One initial question which on the surface seems shallow, or 

> redundant, but isn't really---where do I put my money?  And where do I 

> put my attention, my fascination, my gratitude?  They are all currency.  

> What do you fill your daily brain/mind workings with?  what is the 

> ratio?  And then, what do you suppose you truly emanate to others, 

> which is NOT what you do but what comes from or actually IS the 

> essence of everything that makes you up, incl. every thought.  Since I 

> know little about each of you and what you fill your lives with 

> outside of what I read, it is difficult to know to whom I am writing 

> this...but it is relevant for each of us.  For me every day.  WHAT DO 

> I EMANATE INTO THE ENERGETIC WORLD???

> I'D honestly like to hear more about people who are of this group 

> list.  Perhaps we each are emanating much that is positively feeding 

> the web of LIFE but use this group to focus on a really challenging 

> aspect of LIFE on this planet.  Hal probably knows alot about each of 

> us, but I know nearly nothing about most of you.  And if you think 

> this is poppycock to request more info about what it is you fill your 

> lives with behind the words we all read on this list, why, I wonder, 

> would this seem so irrelevant or  pointless to you?  Not so much what 

> you DO but what you feel you emanate out into the world when you're 

> standing still...and don't be modest.  Be honest.

> Right now I"m looking at an extraordinary picture of Jane Goodall, 

> having eye contact with a huge gorilla that is literally holding her 

> in its arms, looking at her.  WHAT they emanate is abundantly clear. 

>  If I looked into your eyes right now, what would I see, what would 

> they tell me?  If you put your hand on me right now, what would that 

> contact tell me?  

>

> On Feb 16, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Janice Matthews wrote:

>

>> Yeah, I'm afraid I agree here and would like to be shown what's 

>> changing for human beings under the Obama Regime. I still see him as 

>> the new, much more eloquent, convincing, and thus dangerous, face of 

>> the desperate and crumbling Empire. USA Today reports this national 

>> poll today, showing 2/3 of Americans want investigation (and nearly 

>> half of those want prosecution) : 

>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-02-11-investigation-poll_N.htm 

>> . I would like to see investigation/prosecution begin, rather than 

>> hearing "I prefer to be forward-looking but will let Eric Holder 

>> decide whether to prosecute." (The same Eric Holder who managed to 

>> keep OKC/Kenny Trentadue's death under wraps, and those perpetrators 

>> to go free? great...)

>>

>> That does not look, at all, like change to me. Further, Jason Leopold 

>> (ConsortiumNews.com) just published an excellent piece called 

>> "Torture Report Erodes Bush's Defense." And Jonathan Turley and other 

>> Constitutional lawyers (remember, Obama is one...) are stating firmly 

>> that he /must/ prosecute or he will be guilty of the same! The 

>> Raytheon executive in charge of the Pentagon finances when it was 

>> announced (9/10/01) they'd lost 3.2 TRILLION DOLLARS from the 

>> Pentagon budget has been appointed BY OBAMA as Deputy Defense 

>> Secretary (www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12291 

>> <http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102460153564&e=001KoGnquAjw2k0H9H53TBPRgryQD4Ddwo-D5lYHVFOKlzSf63qvZTEtVuZcamJHADHe1LwSAH5W7qtHN7Xzk1YM0J9Uz4niHPEVzuZLCzyySnX4N-TC0lPrFCCva8H7_Nt2q_HBy3ccZ-UhsnbG8t-MzQGLEYQzCYww4WjJ-I8DYM=> 

>> ). I could go on and on about who he's appointed, but won't. Oh, and 

>> he just sent more drones into Pakistan and killed another 60 

>> "terrorists."

>>

>> Honestly, I simply do not understand how people can see this as a 

>> string of positive events, though I'm willing to listen if there's 

>> some truth and reality I'm not seeing ... top-down convincing people 

>> that they should "sign up" to organize repairing the nation feels to 

>> me like convincing the worker-bees to produce more, to bolster the 

>> company's future, while selling the assembly-line products to powers 

>> destroying the world... "Produce more of these genetic seeds... 

>> they're good for the world." kind of thing. He may be eloquent, but 

>> my opinion is that makes him a more believable liar. Look at what 

>> he's DOING, not what he's saying.

>>

>> And frankly, what's the question here... If I beat my children, and 

>> am caught (and admit it on national television), I would be arrested 

>> and tried for it. No question. If I did it to hundreds (or thousands) 

>> of people, I'd make front page headlines, endless hours on the 

>> 24-7-news channels, and fear to walk the streets, lest people 

>> beat/kill me for my heinous crimes. So really. What's the 

>> difference?! I simply do not understand people having any question 

>> about this whatsoever!! Crime -> investigation -> admission -> trial 

>> -> sentencing. Period. No matter why we feel the need to consider 

>> whether we should push for prosecution, the fact that we're having to 

>> "consider whether" to prosecute is what needs to be looked at!

>>

>> Thanks for listening...

>> Janice

>>

>> Jay Becker wrote:

>>> In what ways is the Obama administration "restoring control of the 

>>> government to the people"? Not some words dug up from a speech that 

>>> appeals to our prejudices but in fact, in deeds. The wars continue 

>>> and are being expanded, despite the fact that millions have voted 

>>> for the Democrats in two election cycles as a vote to end those 

>>> wars. The bail-out? Commentators across the political spectrum agree 

>>> that it is essentially the same approach that the Bush 

>>> administration took, with a few revisions. Ending renditions? Last 

>>> week the Obama Dept. of Justice (!) went into court and argued just 

>>> what the Bush DoJ had: "Don't let lawsuits by detainees seeking 

>>> redress for the crimes committed against them go forward because 

>>> they will expose state secrets" - namely, the crimes against 

>>> international law this government wants to continue behind the veil 

>>> of state secrets!

>>>

>>> If we go along with all this because of a few crumbs thrown our way 

>>> (precious few, in fact), then we are indeed complicit with that, and 

>>> much more.

>>>

>>> "On the inauguration, crimes...and complicity"

>>> By Bob Avakian

>>>

>>> http://www.revcom.us/a/157/Avakian_on_Obama-en.html

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> * *//Stop thinking like an American,

>>> Start thinking about humanity!

>>>

>>>

>>> --- On *Mon, 2/16/09, Hal Snyder /<hal at drxyzzy.org>/* wrote:

>>>

>>>     From: Hal Snyder <hal at drxyzzy.org>

>>>     Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Icke on Obama

>>>     To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net

>>>     Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 7:15 AM

>>>

>>>     David Icke is an interesting phenomenon. He can be insightful,

>>>     charismatic, absurd, and hateful. I don't think he makes a

>>>     strong case against Obama.

>>>

>>>     Barack Obama and his administration clearly present a mixed picture.

>>>

>>>     However, in response to Icke's charge that he is working to

>>>     control the masses, there is ample evidence that Obama wants to

>>>     restore control of the government to the people. We see attempts

>>>     at taking community organizing to a national level. Community

>>>     organizing is the opposite of top-down mind control. It is based

>>>     on encouraging people to develop their own power.

>>>

>>>     /... a viable organization can only be achieved if a broadly

>>>     based indigenous leadership — and not one or two charismatic

>>>     leaders — can knit together the diverse interests of their local

>>>     institutions/

>>>     - Barack Obama

>>>

>>>     References:

>>>

>>>     Documentary, DAVID ICKE: The Lizards and the Jews

>>>     http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2912878405399014351

>>>

>>>     change.gov

>>>     usaservice.org

>>>

>>>     Why Organize? Problems and Promise in the Inner City - by Barack

>>>     Obama, 1990.

>>>     http://www.edwoj.com/Alinsky/AlinskyObamaChapter1990.htm

>>>

>>>     On Feb 16, 2009, at 12:44 AM, andrew ritter wrote:

>>>

>>>>     I'm sure there are a variety of opinions on David Icke, but I

>>>>     think he has some pretty solid arguments against Obama.  I have

>>>>     included some highlights below.  Full posting is very long and

>>>>     sometimes wanders, but also has a lot of indisputable facts &

>>>>     worth a read here:

>>>>

>>>>     Barack Obama: The Naked Emperor

>>>>     http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/18281

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>     ...

>>>>     I worked in television for more than a decade, often reading

>>>>     autocue while a director spoke in my ear telling me

>>>>     what cameras to look at. I have, since the early 1990s, spoken

>>>>     my truth on public stages across the world. I know, therefore,

>>>>     the difference between artificial autocue delivery and body

>>>>     language and talking from the heart without a script. Obama, I

>>>>     repeat, is coming from the autocue, not the heart.

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