[CitizensTruth] Obama as change vs. more-o-same-Empire-guy

[Mike Kirk]

Along this same thought - where to put your money...  Like the Grameen bank in Asia, looks as if microlending may be taking hold in the US due to the credit crunch.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/20090216/bs_bw/0962s0902018039571


Bye-bye big banks, and good riddance...... time to go local with food and money.

-Mike

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Geri Perry <geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com> wrote:
From: Geri Perry <geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com>
Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Obama as change vs. more-o-same-Empire-guy
To: "Kris Knight" <welaware at merr.com>
Cc: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 12:08 PM

Kris etal:

Here's my stab at your queries:

RE: where do I put my money? 
MY Answer: The ABSOLUTE best and one of the easiest places is locally and
responsibly produced REAL food! (by Local I mean regional)

RE: where do I put my attention, my fascination, my gratitude?

MY Answer: Searching for TRUTH. Also and just as important: Family, friends and
community, and "nature's God" or however YOU choose to describe
it. Also taking the time to experience joy in the REALLY important things, like
a chemtrail-free blue sky, listening to the wind in the leaves, the birds in the
trees, water running in a stream, picking raspberries, a friendly or helpful
gesture no matter who provides it- you get the picture.

RE: What do you fill your daily brain/mind workings with?

MY Answer: Well, I focus on how to best communicate results from my personal
truth-seeking endeavors, and most especially the manner in which
"honest" money is the ONLY way to pull the world from the abyss -
about which Jefferson was correct: “Money is the agent by which modern nations
will recover their rights.”

RE: what is the ratio?

MY Answer: Not important IMO. so long as I make sure to leave enough down time,
which varies from week to week and month to month.

RE: WHAT DO I EMANATE INTO THE ENERGETIC WORLD??? 
MY Answer: Hmmmm. . . See above about taking joy in the important things.

Also I do my best to try to live by my "code": #1. whenever you point
a finger toward what you BELIEVE to be the source of a problem, always look to
where your other fingers are pointing. #2. Judge them by the fruit they bear.
#3. Evaluate the message, not the messenger. (#2 is what is most troubling about
Obama, as some others have also indicated, but I now pretty much regard him as a
side issue - the real one being to find ways to empower each of us so that we
become functioning members of We the People)

I might add a #4 to the above, and that is to recognize that not only do we all
have flaws but also that there WILL be disagreement (and thus negativity)
between us - most importantly because of the arenas and levels of real truth we
as individuals have managed to accumulate. So long as we follow the first three
rules, continually try to find better ways to communicate - and work through
differences we'll be OK, and the negativity created by false differences
(based on false assumptions and lack of full information) will eventually turn
to trust and faith in each other. If we try to shut down honest, open and
sincere discourse, any and all differences will increase and negativity will
turn to hatred.

RE: If I looked into your eyes right now, what would I see, what would they
tell me? 
MY Answer: A deep and abiding belief that we the people - as misled, uniformed,
angry, distrustful and full of flaws as we may be - can and will do everything
we can to make this world a better place. (I do have to occasionally take time
to remind myself of this when negativity seems to be taking over my mindscape,
hence the need for downtime)

RE: If you put your hand on me right now, what would that contact tell me? 
MY Answer: You are enormously generous and compassionate - AND you have a deep
and abiding desire to make the world a better place. (And I believe this partly
because I am lucky enough to have met you and partly because of your
participation in this forum)

gerip


Kris Knight wrote:

> All great points, and thank you.  Just keeping up with the facts is

formidable, much less having an educated opinion about things...   But I would
also ask...in what ways can we move forward without putting so much energy into
being steered by those in politics?  We are surrounded by negativity, including
much coming from within our ranks which feeds the collective of negativity.  HOW
can we withdraw our energy from that and INVEST our energy in redirecting
outcomes TOWARD positive?  One initial question which on the surface seems
shallow, or redundant, but isn't really---where do I put my money?  And
where do I put my attention, my fascination, my gratitude?  They are all
currency.  What do you fill your daily brain/mind workings with?  what is the
ratio?  And then, what do you suppose you truly emanate to others, which is NOT
what you do but what comes from or actually IS the essence of everything that
makes you up, incl. every thought.  Since I know little about each of you and
what you fill your lives with outside of what I read, it is difficult to know to
whom I am writing this...but it is relevant for each of us.  For me every day. 
WHAT DO I EMANATE INTO THE ENERGETIC WORLD???

> I'D honestly like to hear more about people who are of this group

list.  Perhaps we each are emanating much that is positively feeding the web of
LIFE but use this group to focus on a really challenging aspect of LIFE on this
planet.  Hal probably knows alot about each of us, but I know nearly nothing
about most of you.  And if you think this is poppycock to request more info
about what it is you fill your lives with behind the words we all read on this
list, why, I wonder, would this seem so irrelevant or  pointless to you?  Not so
much what you DO but what you feel you emanate out into the world when
you're standing still...and don't be modest.  Be honest.

> Right now I"m looking at an extraordinary picture of Jane Goodall,

having eye contact with a huge gorilla that is literally holding her in its
arms, looking at her.  WHAT they emanate is abundantly clear.  If I looked into
your eyes right now, what would I see, what would they tell me?  If you put your
hand on me right now, what would that contact tell me?  

> On Feb 16, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Janice Matthews wrote:

> 

>> Yeah, I'm afraid I agree here and would like to be shown

what's changing for human beings under the Obama Regime. I still see him as
the new, much more eloquent, convincing, and thus dangerous, face of the
desperate and crumbling Empire. USA Today reports this national poll today,
showing 2/3 of Americans want investigation (and nearly half of those want
prosecution) :
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-02-11-investigation-poll_N.htm . I
would like to see investigation/prosecution begin, rather than hearing "I
prefer to be forward-looking but will let Eric Holder decide whether to
prosecute." (The same Eric Holder who managed to keep OKC/Kenny
Trentadue's death under wraps, and those perpetrators to go free? great...)

>> 

>> That does not look, at all, like change to me. Further, Jason Leopold

(ConsortiumNews.com) just published an excellent piece called "Torture
Report Erodes Bush's Defense." And Jonathan Turley and other
Constitutional lawyers (remember, Obama is one...) are stating firmly that he
/must/ prosecute or he will be guilty of the same! The Raytheon executive in
charge of the Pentagon finances when it was announced (9/10/01) they'd lost
3.2 TRILLION DOLLARS from the Pentagon budget has been appointed BY OBAMA as
Deputy Defense Secretary
(www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12291
<http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102460153564&e=001KoGnquAjw2k0H9H53TBPRgryQD4Ddwo-D5lYHVFOKlzSf63qvZTEtVuZcamJHADHe1LwSAH5W7qtHN7Xzk1YM0J9Uz4niHPEVzuZLCzyySnX4N-TC0lPrFCCva8H7_Nt2q_HBy3ccZ-UhsnbG8t-MzQGLEYQzCYww4WjJ-I8DYM=>
). I could go on and on about who he's appointed, but won't. Oh, and he
just sent more drones into Pakistan and killed another 60
"terrorists."

>> 

>> Honestly, I simply do not understand how people can see this as a

string of positive events, though I'm willing to listen if there's some
truth and reality I'm not seeing ... top-down convincing people that they
should "sign up" to organize repairing the nation feels to me like
convincing the worker-bees to produce more, to bolster the company's future,
while selling the assembly-line products to powers destroying the world...
"Produce more of these genetic seeds... they're good for the
world." kind of thing. He may be eloquent, but my opinion is that makes him
a more believable liar. Look at what he's DOING, not what he's saying.

>> 

>> And frankly, what's the question here... If I beat my children,

and am caught (and admit it on national television), I would be arrested and
tried for it. No question. If I did it to hundreds (or thousands) of people,
I'd make front page headlines, endless hours on the 24-7-news channels, and
fear to walk the streets, lest people beat/kill me for my heinous crimes. So
really. What's the difference?! I simply do not understand people having any
question about this whatsoever!! Crime -> investigation -> admission ->
trial -> sentencing. Period. No matter why we feel the need to consider
whether we should push for prosecution, the fact that we're having to
"consider whether" to prosecute is what needs to be looked at!

>> 

>> Thanks for listening...

>> Janice

>> 

>> Jay Becker wrote:

>>> In what ways is the Obama administration "restoring control

of the government to the people"? Not some words dug up from a speech that
appeals to our prejudices but in fact, in deeds. The wars continue and are being
expanded, despite the fact that millions have voted for the Democrats in two
election cycles as a vote to end those wars. The bail-out? Commentators across
the political spectrum agree that it is essentially the same approach that the
Bush administration took, with a few revisions. Ending renditions? Last week the
Obama Dept. of Justice (!) went into court and argued just what the Bush DoJ
had: "Don't let lawsuits by detainees seeking redress for the crimes
committed against them go forward because they will expose state secrets" -
namely, the crimes against international law this government wants to continue
behind the veil of state secrets!

>>> 

>>> If we go along with all this because of a few crumbs thrown our

way (precious few, in fact), then we are indeed complicit with that, and much
more.

>>> 

>>> "On the inauguration, crimes...and complicity"

>>> By Bob Avakian

>>> 

>>> http://www.revcom.us/a/157/Avakian_on_Obama-en.html

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> * *//Stop thinking like an American,

>>> Start thinking about humanity!

>>> 

>>> 

>>> --- On *Mon, 2/16/09, Hal Snyder /<hal at drxyzzy.org>/* wrote:

>>> 

>>>     From: Hal Snyder <hal at drxyzzy.org>

>>>     Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Icke on Obama

>>>     To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net

>>>     Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 7:15 AM

>>> 

>>>     David Icke is an interesting phenomenon. He can be insightful,

>>>     charismatic, absurd, and hateful. I don't think he makes a

>>>     strong case against Obama.

>>> 

>>>     Barack Obama and his administration clearly present a mixed

picture.

>>> 

>>>     However, in response to Icke's charge that he is working

to

>>>     control the masses, there is ample evidence that Obama wants

to

>>>     restore control of the government to the people. We see

attempts

>>>     at taking community organizing to a national level. Community

>>>     organizing is the opposite of top-down mind control. It is

based

>>>     on encouraging people to develop their own power.

>>> 

>>>     /... a viable organization can only be achieved if a broadly

>>>     based indigenous leadership — and not one or two charismatic

>>>     leaders — can knit together the diverse interests of their

local

>>>     institutions/

>>>     - Barack Obama

>>> 

>>>     References:

>>> 

>>>     Documentary, DAVID ICKE: The Lizards and the Jews

>>>     http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2912878405399014351

>>> 

>>>     change.gov

>>>     usaservice.org

>>> 

>>>     Why Organize? Problems and Promise in the Inner City - by

Barack

>>>     Obama, 1990.

>>>     http://www.edwoj.com/Alinsky/AlinskyObamaChapter1990.htm

>>> 

>>>     On Feb 16, 2009, at 12:44 AM, andrew ritter wrote:

>>> 

>>>>     I'm sure there are a variety of opinions on David

Icke, but I

>>>>     think he has some pretty solid arguments against Obama.  I

have

>>>>     included some highlights below.  Full posting is very long

and

>>>>     sometimes wanders, but also has a lot of indisputable

facts &

>>>>     worth a read here:

>>>> 

>>>>     Barack Obama: The Naked Emperor

>>>>     http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/18281

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>>     ...

>>>>     I worked in television for more than a decade, often

reading

>>>>     autocue while a director spoke in my ear telling me

>>>>     what cameras to look at. I have, since the early 1990s,

spoken

>>>>     my truth on public stages across the world. I know,

therefore,

>>>>     the difference between artificial autocue delivery and

body

>>>>     language and talking from the heart without a script.

Obama, I

>>>>     repeat, is coming from the autocue, not the heart.

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> Phone:  1-608-ALL-LIFE

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