[CitizensTruth] Are we chumps?

Kris Knight welaware at merr.com
Tue Feb 17 22:48:27 EST 2009


I just want to say how utterly brilliant I think you are, Hal. You
are one of the best communicators in writing I know, and your
viewpoint is far more INCLUSIVE than EXclusive, which is what most
opining on the conditions of our times really is. As I read this, all
I could say is yes, yes, yes, yes. Keep writing more; share more with
us; be more open with us; give us more of this, please. You have made
such extraordinary strides since I first met you; please step up to
the plate more, starting yesterday.
And Hal, thanks for bringing us all together, so we can learn from
each other.
BTW, only a couple people shared about themselves; how many are on
this list? I'd still like to know about more of you. WHAT do you
emanate, what do you intend in this world?

On Feb 17, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Hal Snyder wrote:


> The Baseline Scenario report has Simon Johnson's view of the

> underlying economics.

> http://www.iie.com/publications/papers/paper.cfm?ResearchID=1117

>

> Regarding the notion of an entrenched cadre of individuals, amassing

> and holding onto unimaginable wealth and power at any cost to the

> rest of the planet, recall work by Peter Phillips and Project

> Censored on the Global Dominance Group.

> http://www.projectcensored.org/articles/story/the-global-dominance-group/

>

> I think Bill Moyers and Simon (IMF) Johnson are still bumping around

> inside the box. For example the chuckling over how we clearly don't

> want the government running the banks, imagine going to the bank

> being like a visit to the DMV, ha ha ha. Actually, going to private

> banks these days is very much like a visit to the DMV where I live.

> Also: when the government intervenes on a failing (small) bank, the

> bank is promptly re-privatized [what a relief].... And so on.

>

> 1. There are at least as many threats to individual liberty in these

> times from the private sector as there are from the government. Or

> have we taken our eyes off: Monsanto, Choicepoint, Blackwater,

> Pharma, big media, the health insurance industry, predatory lenders,

> etc...

>

> 2. I don't think the current mess will be resolved until we realize

> it's not about money. The recent discussion on this list about where

> we put our personal energy, our time, our hearts - that's the real

> currency of the human race. It's time to shake off decades of free-

> market brainwashing and acknowledge higher human principles than

> greed. And not just acknowledge these principles, but elevate them

> as our greatest aspirations.

>

> Putting a dollar amount on every object or act or creature, and

> somehow expecting whims of human commerce (the free market) to

> produce a just or sustainable result makes about as much sense to me

> as making big decisions based on which way the wind blows.

>

> 3. Derrick Jensen says that if someone can slide insane premises

> past you, they can use flawless logic to take you to an insane

> conclusion. For example:

>

> How can we get the economy growing again?

>

> This assumes a) we want the economy to grow, b) we want an economy,

> and c) there is some agreement of who "we" are.

>

> Jensen gives reasons we might say no to a) and b) and suggests that

> "we", the implied beneficiaries of a growing economy, leaves out

> much of the human race as well as most other life on the planet.

>

> How do they face their children?

> http://growthmadness.org/2006/12/29/how-do-they-face-their-children/

>

>

> On Feb 17, 2009, at 7:24 PM, Mike Kirk wrote:

>

>> I saw part of this - very honest and to the point.

>>

>> Americans need to realize we are not immune from financial turmoil.

>>

>> -Mike

>>

>> --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Chuck Minne <mincam2 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>> From: Chuck Minne <mincam2 at yahoo.com>

>> Subject: [CitizensTruth] Are we chumps?

>> To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net

>> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 6:26 PM

>>

>> This is worth watching:

>>

>> http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/02132009/watch.html

>>

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Kris Knight of WellAware Life Enhancement Center
Phone: 1-608-ALL-LIFE
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