[CitizensTruth] Without a questioning media, the questions go unanswered

[Kris Knight]

I agree that we choose our battles and also realize what magnetic  
charge we create when we do, because we're attracting much of what we  
believe we are most against.
I think WHERE someone is born is the least of our concerns.  The utter  
least.
I do NOT agree about some of the stronger accusations below, but I'm  
chiming in hoping to move us into considering what we attract by what  
we hold onto.  I believe it is time for us to learn about future  
memory, time travel, how we can change the future by what we see in  
our minds now, all proven stuff.  Let's drop our fundamentalism that  
we are calling something else.  There is a very, very big world out  
there; there is alot to learn and quickly, in order to SEE what we  
long for into reality.  This is different than denial so don't  
misunderstand me, please.  DO YOUR HOMEWORK.  For those of you who are  
enmeshed in a dysfunctional reality that focuses on duality, think of  
softening your hold on that, because we're in a time of great  
transformation, great opportunity.  Really, we are.  And we must model  
for those younger ones we've brought into the world, including both  
children but also new ideas, new concepts, new consequences.  Ask, and  
you will receive.  A universal truth.  Put your request out there; you  
will then begin to receive responses that you heretofore did not.  So,  
keep your eyes, and sometimes your camera lens, open...(referring to  
my previous email, if Hal allows it through).

On Jan 8, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Connie Smith wrote:


>

>

> I agree with Chuck.

>

> I don't know if I hit Reply or Reply All on this topic previously.

> Please excuse if this is a repeat:

>

> More than ever, I can't see any sensible reason to pursue this.   

> There are

> so many urgent constitutional violations that have piled up and are  

> actually

> threatening us that I would think a person who is sincere about the

> Constitution would be spending their energy on those fronts.

>

> But instead, there's a vendetta-like search for a technicality to un- 

> do

> probably the only legitimate election process (in terms of votes  

> counted)

> that we've had in decades.  It's petty, vicious, and stupid.

>

> If there was any evidence that Obama is some sort of foreign agent  

> trying to

> sneak into the presidency and, from there, take over the world,  

> maybe it

> would merit some attention.

>

> But to seriously pursue to derail the inauguration of an intelligent  

> guy

> who's soaked in the values of his American midwestern-roots  

> nurturers, who

> has a history of humanitarian ideals and actions, who is highly- 

> solution

> oriented, and who is willing to literally risk his life to take on  

> arguably

> the hardest job in the world (and probably more temperamentally and

> intellectually qualified than anyone we've ever had before) -- well,  

> it's an

> absolutely idiotic effort.  It's an outright sinister effort.

>

> There ARE extremely serious -- critical -- constitutional issues to  

> work on.

> SINCERE people will do that.  But Berg and buddies have the  

> mentality of

> assassins -- and ought to be regarded and treated with the utmost  

> scorn and

> contempt.

>

> Connie

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Chuck Minne

> To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net ; edward_rynearson at yahoo.com

> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:11 AM

> Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Without a questioning media,the  

> questions go unanswered

>

> I can't figure out why we should care at this point. With the mess  

> that the country is in, it seems to me that the last thing we need  

> is to be further disrupted by is this issue. Do we really want to  

> create a political shambles at this point? I say very vehemently,  

> "NO!"

>

> It is my personal belief that he was probably born in Kenya, but I  

> don't give a shit. There are far, far worse tramplings of the  

> Constitution that should be corrected (but won't) way before this  

> one is even considered.

>

> Let it go! Forget it!

>

>

>

> "I have lost faith, godammit! I put my faith in the People and that  

> was a mistake! This is a shit people! They get stolen blind by their  

> politicians and they lick their boots. They send their kids off to  

> die for somebody's business deal and they celebrate it like they're  

> doing something heroic! This great and glorious people! Lazy sacks  

> of junk food and jingo!"

>

> From: "The Army of the Republic"  by Stuart Archer Cohen

>

>

>

> --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Edward Rynearson <edward_rynearson at yahoo.com>  

> wrote:

> From: Edward Rynearson <edward_rynearson at yahoo.com>

> Subject: [CitizensTruth] Without a questioning media, the questions  

> go unanswered

> To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net

> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 12:01 AM

>

> http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/133734

>

> Is Obama a natural-born citizen?

> Comments 48| Recommend 14

> Thomas J. Lucente Jr., The Lima (Ohio) News January 6, 2009 - 8:44PM

>

> LIMA, Ohio — The most underreported story of 2008 has to be the  

> continuing

> saga of a few brave souls who are working through the courts to force

> President-elect Barack Obama to prove his citizenship.

>

> In fact, a report from The Associated Press dismissed the whole  

> thing as

> nothing but Internet conspiracy theories.

>

> This lack of coverage is just the latest example of why I have  

> mostly lost hope

> for the mainstream media in the United States.

>

> Thanks to the lack of media coverage, many of you reading this may  

> be unaware

> of the multitude of lawsuits challenging Obama’s citizenship and his  

> legal

> right to be president.

>

> The Framers, when putting together our Constitution, inserted  

> Article 2,

> Section 1, Clause 4, which tells us. “No Person except a natural  

> born Citizen

> … shall be eligible to the Office of President.” The same clause  

> prevents

> Austrian-born California Gov. Arnold A. Schwarzenegger from being  

> president.

>

> There have been at least 17 lawsuits filed in state and federal  

> courts alleging

> that Obama does not meet the Constitutional requirement of being a  

> natural-born

> citizen.

>

> The lawsuits filed all have varying theories on Obama’s citizenship,

> including that he was not born in the United States, that he became  

> a citizen of

> Indonesia when he was adopted, or that he had dual citizenship at  

> birth, which

> means he was not a natural-born citizen.

>

> The lawsuit with which I am most familiar was filed in a federal  

> court in

> Pennsylvania by Philip Berg, a Democrat.

>

> That lawsuit alleges that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya. Berg  

> says he has a

> recording of Obama’s grandmother, Sarah Obama, saying she was  

> present when

> Obama was born in Kenya.

>

> Berg further claims that Obama himself and other members of his  

> family have

> made conflicting statements as to where he was actually born.  

> Additionally,

> Kenyan officials have said Obama was born in Kenya.

>

> Much of the controversy surrounds Obama’s birth certificate. The  

> state of

> Hawaii has refused to release the long-form or “vault” copy of the  

> birth

> certificate. Obama has also refused to release the long-form copy.

>

> Back in June, the campaign did release a short-form certificate,  

> which is a

> certificate created by Hawaii that says the long-form certificate is  

> on file.

> However, according to Berg, the campaign only released the short-form

> certificate to The Daily Kos, a left-wing blog, and FactCheck.org, a  

> pro-Obama

> organization. Additionally, Berg has called the short-form  

> certificate a

> forgery.

>

> Berg brought the case to the U.S. Supreme Court and was initially  

> denied by

> Justices David Souter and Anthony Kennedy before submitting his  

> petition to

> Justice Antonin Scalia.

>

> The Supreme Court has scheduled two conferences on the case, one for  

> Friday and

> a second one for Jan. 16, four days before Obama will take office.

>

> I do not know if Obama is a natural-born citizen. My instincts tell  

> me that it

> would have been difficult for him to hide that fact for so long.  

> However,

> citizenship law can be very murky and Obama’s reticence on the  

> matter is

> disturbing.

>

> I know from personal experience that when dealing with duel  

> citizenship issues,

> birth certificates are usually filed in both countries. The state of  

> Hawaii’s

> statement that it has a birth certificate on file does nothing in  

> solving the

> mystery of where Obama was born. It merely tells us that his birth  

> was recorded

> in Hawaii.

>

> The whole controversy might be nothing more than a crazy conspiracy  

> theory.

> Then again, it might be a valid argument.

>

> The whole matter could easily be settled by the state of Hawaii  

> releasing the

> long-form certificate, something the Supreme Court can force if it  

> accepts the

> case for arguments.

>

> There is much at stake here. This is a serious constitutional  

> question. If we

> find out later that Obama was not a natural-born citizen, then  

> everything he did

> as president, treaties, laws, executive orders, etc., would be  

> invalid.

>

> The candidates spent more than $1 billion and two years vying for  

> the job.

> Would it not make sense to give lawyers an afternoon arguing the  

> issue in front

> of the Supreme Court? That is the least we could do to make sure the  

> person

> taking the oath of office actually meets the requirements.

>

> The Constitution demands nothing less.

>

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Kris Knight of WellAware Life Enhancement Center
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