[CitizensTruth] Without a questioning media, the questions go unanswered

[Edward Rynearson]

I don't think its a vendetta and if seen in the broader context of JFK, RFK, MLK9/11, 7/7, Paul Wellstone, Mike Connell, et there is obviously some power greater than our elected government that is calling the shots.  If there is truth to this then they have the goods on Obama who just happens to be naming all of their people to his cabinet.  Kissinger (Rockefeller's general) went on MSNBC two days ago and said that the economic situation provided Obama with the opportunity to implement a "New World Order".  Sanja Gupta is a member of the CFR which basically is the officer corp for "The New World Order".  Michelle Obama works for the CFR. 

If you haven't picked up a copy of the Bilderberg Group, go to the bookstore and just leaf through the photos.  A picture tells a thousand words.

I believe it is news and that we must see what's going on outside the left/right - Democractic/Republican fish bowl.

Ed


--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Connie Smith <dimension04 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:


> From: Connie Smith <dimension04 at sbcglobal.net>

> Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Without a questioning media,the questions go unanswered

> To: mincam2 at yahoo.com, citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net, edward_rynearson at yahoo.com

> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 7:11 AM

> I agree with Chuck.

> 

> 

> 

> I don't know if I hit Reply or Reply All on this topic

> previously.

> 

> Please excuse if this is a repeat:

> 

> 

> 

> More than ever, I can't see any sensible reason to

> pursue this.  There are

> so many urgent constitutional violations that have piled up

> and are actually

> threatening us that I would think a person who is sincere

> about the

> Constitution would be spending their energy on those

> fronts.

> 

> But instead, there's a vendetta-like search for a

> technicality to un-do

> probably the only legitimate election process (in terms of

> votes counted)

> that we've had in decades.  It's petty, vicious,

> and stupid.

> 

> If there was any evidence that Obama is some sort of

> foreign agent trying to

> sneak into the presidency and, from there, take over the

> world, maybe it

> would merit some attention.

> 

> But to seriously pursue to derail the inauguration of an

> intelligent guy

> who's soaked in the values of his American

> midwestern-roots nurturers, who

> has a history of humanitarian ideals and actions, who is

> highly-solution

> oriented, and who is willing to literally risk his life to

> take on arguably

> the hardest job in the world (and probably more

> temperamentally and

> intellectually qualified than anyone we've ever had

> before) -- well, it's an

> absolutely idiotic effort.  It's an outright sinister

> effort.

> 

> There ARE extremely serious -- critical -- constitutional

> issues to work on.

> SINCERE people will do that.  But Berg and buddies have the

> mentality of

> assassins -- and ought to be regarded and treated with the

> utmost scorn and

> contempt.

> 

> Connie

> 

>   ----- Original Message ----- 

>   From: Chuck Minne 

>   To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net ;

> edward_rynearson at yahoo.com 

>   Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:11 AM

>   Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Without a questioning

> media,the questions go unanswered

> 

> 

>         I can't figure out why we should care at this

> point. With the mess that the country is in, it seems to me

> that the last thing we need is to be further disrupted by is

> this issue. Do we really want to create a political shambles

> at this point? I say very vehemently, "NO!"

> 

>         It is my personal belief that he was probably born

> in Kenya, but I don't give a shit. There are far, far

> worse tramplings of the Constitution that should be

> corrected (but won't) way before this one is even

> considered.

> 

>         Let it go! Forget it!

> 

> 

> 

> 

>         "I have lost faith, godammit! I put my faith

> in the People and that was a mistake! This is a shit people!

> They get stolen blind by their politicians and they lick

> their boots. They send their kids off to die for

> somebody's business deal and they celebrate it like

> they're doing something heroic! This great and glorious

> people! Lazy sacks of junk food and jingo!"

> 

>         From: "The Army of the Republic"  by

> Stuart Archer Cohen

> 

> 

> 

>         --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Edward Rynearson

> <edward_rynearson at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 

>           From: Edward Rynearson

> <edward_rynearson at yahoo.com>

>           Subject: [CitizensTruth] Without a questioning

> media, the questions go unanswered

>           To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net

>           Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 12:01 AM

> 

> 

> http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/133734

> 

> Is Obama a natural-born citizen?

> Comments 48| Recommend 14

> Thomas J. Lucente Jr., The Lima (Ohio) News January 6, 2009

> - 8:44PM 

> 

> LIMA, Ohio — The most underreported story of 2008 has to

> be the continuing

> saga of a few brave souls who are working through the

> courts to force

> President-elect Barack Obama to prove his citizenship.

> 

> In fact, a report from The Associated Press dismissed the

> whole thing as

> nothing but Internet conspiracy theories.

> 

> This lack of coverage is just the latest example of why I

> have mostly lost hope

> for the mainstream media in the United States.

> 

> Thanks to the lack of media coverage, many of you reading

> this may be unaware

> of the multitude of lawsuits challenging Obama’s

> citizenship and his legal

> right to be president.

> 

> The Framers, when putting together our Constitution,

> inserted Article 2,

> Section 1, Clause 4, which tells us. “No Person except a

> natural born Citizen

> … shall be eligible to the Office of President.” The

> same clause prevents

> Austrian-born California Gov. Arnold A. Schwarzenegger from

> being president.

> 

> There have been at least 17 lawsuits filed in state and

> federal courts alleging

> that Obama does not meet the Constitutional requirement of

> being a natural-born

> citizen.

> 

> The lawsuits filed all have varying theories on Obama’s

> citizenship,

> including that he was not born in the United States, that

> he became a citizen of

> Indonesia when he was adopted, or that he had dual

> citizenship at birth, which

> means he was not a natural-born citizen.

> 

> The lawsuit with which I am most familiar was filed in a

> federal court in

> Pennsylvania by Philip Berg, a Democrat.

> 

> That lawsuit alleges that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.

> Berg says he has a

> recording of Obama’s grandmother, Sarah Obama, saying she

> was present when

> Obama was born in Kenya.

> 

> Berg further claims that Obama himself and other members of

> his family have

> made conflicting statements as to where he was actually

> born. Additionally,

> Kenyan officials have said Obama was born in Kenya.

> 

> Much of the controversy surrounds Obama’s birth

> certificate. The state of

> Hawaii has refused to release the long-form or “vault”

> copy of the birth

> certificate. Obama has also refused to release the

> long-form copy.

> 

> Back in June, the campaign did release a short-form

> certificate, which is a

> certificate created by Hawaii that says the long-form

> certificate is on file.

> However, according to Berg, the campaign only released the

> short-form

> certificate to The Daily Kos, a left-wing blog, and

> FactCheck.org, a pro-Obama

> organization. Additionally, Berg has called the short-form

> certificate a

> forgery.

> 

> Berg brought the case to the U.S. Supreme Court and was

> initially denied by

> Justices David Souter and Anthony Kennedy before submitting

> his petition to

> Justice Antonin Scalia.

> 

> The Supreme Court has scheduled two conferences on the

> case, one for Friday and

> a second one for Jan. 16, four days before Obama will take

> office.

> 

> I do not know if Obama is a natural-born citizen. My

> instincts tell me that it

> would have been difficult for him to hide that fact for so

> long. However,

> citizenship law can be very murky and Obama’s reticence

> on the matter is

> disturbing.

> 

> I know from personal experience that when dealing with duel

> citizenship issues,

> birth certificates are usually filed in both countries. The

> state of Hawaii’s

> statement that it has a birth certificate on file does

> nothing in solving the

> mystery of where Obama was born. It merely tells us that

> his birth was recorded

> in Hawaii.

> 

> The whole controversy might be nothing more than a crazy

> conspiracy theory.

> Then again, it might be a valid argument.

> 

> The whole matter could easily be settled by the state of

> Hawaii releasing the

> long-form certificate, something the Supreme Court can

> force if it accepts the

> case for arguments.

> 

> There is much at stake here. This is a serious

> constitutional question. If we

> find out later that Obama was not a natural-born citizen,

> then everything he did

> as president, treaties, laws, executive orders, etc., would

> be invalid.

> 

> The candidates spent more than $1 billion and two years

> vying for the job.

> Would it not make sense to give lawyers an afternoon

> arguing the issue in front

> of the Supreme Court? That is the least we could do to make

> sure the person

> taking the oath of office actually meets the requirements.

> 

> The Constitution demands nothing less.

> 

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