[CitizensTruth] More questionable characters-Zbigniew, Israel, etc.

[Connie Smith]

I haven't adequately looked into it, but I have at times wondered if 
Brzezinski is misperceived.  I remember being flabbergasted one time in an 
interview where he sounded like a 9/11 Truther, sounding the alarm --  
leaving the impression that his "Grand Chessboard" book was not "what we 
must do" -- like the aggression of PNAC -- but instead, that is just what IS 
going on -- and that is (what we also believe) exactly what's wrong!   (???)

Also, he was Jimmy Carter's adviser, and it's hard to find a more 
authentically humanitarian activist than Carter -- who even dares to openly 
and frequently DIS Israel.

As for Afghanistan -- I remember the women's movement (despite being 
anti-war) being relieved that the U.S. was going in there, which would put 
down the Taliban, and therefore put a stop to their brutality towards all 
females.  But of course, the Taliban have thrived under Bush.  Does Obama 
have an anti-Taliban-brutality motive -- in other words, an authentic human 
rights motive -- for focusing on Afghanistan?

As for Obama and Israel
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/12/29

The link leads off with "Obama aligns with White House..."  But what the 
article CLEARLY states, unlike the headline, is this:

"So far, Obama has given no hint on his policy on the Israeli-Palestinian 
conflict, though he has said finding a peace plan would be an early priority 
of his administration."

"Further, on 12/28/08, the Washington Post quoted an unnamed senior Bush 
administration official saying he thought the Israelis launched the attack 
because of uncertainty over Obama's policy."

I've seen one or two other comments like this.  The Israelis apparently have 
some reasons to doubt blind loyalty from Obama, which has always been US 
policy.  And I remember, pre-election, a number of articles about Jewish 
Americans being nervous about voting for Obama -- they saw indications he 
was NOT very pro-Israel.

For one thing, there are periodically headlines like this one in the foreign 
press:  "Obama will bring the end of Jewish Domination"
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/11/04/greek-newspaper-obama-win-will-bring-%e2%80%9cthe-end-of-jewish-domination%e2%80%9d/

And mainly -- and I am kicking myself because I failed to copy the link --  
but here's the info that I DID copy from March, 2008:

Barack Obama's military adviser and national campaign co-chairman is Merrill 
"Tony" McPeak. McPeak is a former chief of staff of the Air Force.

McPeak has a long history of criticizing Israel for not going back to the 
1967 borders as part of any peace agreement with Arab states. In 1976 McPeak 
wrote an article for Foreign Affairs magazine questioning Israel's 
insistence on holding on to the Golan Heights and parts of the West Bank.

In recent years McPeak has echoed the Mearsheimer-Walt view that American 
Middle East policy is being controlled by Jews (Zionists) at the expense of 
America's interests in the region. In a 2003 interview with the Oregonian, 
McPeak complained of that the "lack of playbook for getting Israelis and 
Palestinians together ....We need to get it fixed and only we have the 
authority with both sides to move them towards that. Everybody knows that."

The interviewer then asked McPeak: "So where's the problem? State Dept.? 
White House?"

McPeak replied: "New York City. Miami. We have a large vote there in favor 
of Israel. And no politician wants to run against it."

Translation (as if it's needed): Jews (Zionists) -- who put Israel over 
every American interest -- control America's policy on the Middle East.

McPeak also claims that a combination of Jews and Christian Zionists are 
manipulating U.S. policy in Iraq in dangerous and radical ways... Guys like 
McPeak are upset because they think Jews have too much influence.

Instead of discussing Hamas and Hezbollah, McPeak returns to his primary 
target: Christian and Jews who support Israel...In other words, American 
policy is the product of "religious Jews and neocons" who in McPeak's mind 
are just as much to blame for a lack of peace in the Middle East as are 
Hamas and Hezbollah."

Last I checked, Obama still has McPeak on board as military adviser. There 
is ample evidence, I'd say, that Obama is not as pro-Israel as is often 
conveyed.






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Fobes " <richardfobes at hotmail.com>
To: "Connie Smith " <dimension04 at sbcglobal.net>; "Robin Migalla " 
<rmigalla at earthlink.net>; "Truth Group (E-mail) " 
<citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: [CitizensTruth] More questionable characters


What is most concerning to me is Obama's foreign policy.  Zbig Brzenski is a 
dangerous fellow, defining the term 'hawkish' and very war hungry.  Obama 
promises to enhance the 'good war' in Afghanistan by tens of thousands of 
troops and re-depolying troops from Iraq to Afghanistan.  These promises are 
not humanitarian.  There is no 'good war', especially the illegal war of 
agression that we engaged in Afghanistan.  I don't want to engage in anger 
and defensiveness either in talking about Obama, but these things shouldn't 
be ignored.

This justification is under the guise of the so-called War on Terror, which 
we KNOW is based on a lie that is 9/11.  A more accurate decription is the 
War OF Terror, including ther biggest domestic spying program in history 
that Obama, unfortunately, is inheriting, not to mention the policy of 
torture and the Bush doctrine of 'taking the fight to the terrorists'.

Obama's recent FISA vote is concerning.


The promise to estabish tens of thousands of domestic troops is concerning. 
His past loyalties to Israel and AIPAC is concerning, though I read an 
article yesterday in the Guardian saying the Obama's transition team is 
saying that they will be ready to talk to Hamas on a low-level diplomacy 
level.


While I am grateful for the change from Bush, anything would have been 
better.


Obama has his plate full (overly full!).  I'm encouaged by some of his 
words, but not most of his words about foreign policy.  His actions will be 
interesting.


-Rich


-----Original Message-----
From: Connie Smith <dimension04 at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: 1/11/2009 5:51:28 PM
To: Robin Migalla <rmigalla at earthlink.net>, Truth Group (E-mail) 
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Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] More questionable characters




I've lost track of it now -- I didn't archive it because I thought it was
common knowledge anyway -- it being a commentary by Obama about the need to
create jobs "from the bottom up, not from the top down" -- in other words,
priority given to local business-building, not global.

I still think he's playing it safe with APPEARING to be no threat to the
powers-that-be, initially, easing his way into power until he can (almost
safely) be who he really is -- possibly one of the greatest humanitarians we
will ever know.

Here's someone he's appointed that's being lauded as a "brilliant pick."
Being a constitutional law professor -- gosh, we finally have a politician
who actually KNOWS the Constitution and cares about it!! -- I think this
sort of appt. shows Obama's true colors.

by Frank Rich:  "One of the sharpest appointments yet made by the incoming
president may support decisive action: Dawn Johnsen, a law professor and
former Clinton administration official who last week was chosen to run the
Office of Legal Counsel in the Department of Justice.

"This is the same office where the Bush apparatchik John Yoo produced his
infamous memos justifying torture. Johnsen is a fierce critic of such
constitutional abuses. In articles for Slate last year, she wondered 'where
is the outrage, the public outcry' over a government that has acted
lawlessly and that 'does not respect the legal and moral bounds of human
decency.' She asked, 'How do we save our country's honor, and our own?'

"As Johnsen wrote last March, we must also 'resist Bush administration
efforts to hide evidence of its wrongdoing through demands for retroactive
immunity, its assertions of state privilege -- and the implausible claims
that openness will empower terrorists.'  "

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/opinion/11rich.html?_r=1&th&emc=th





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robin Migalla" <rmigalla at earthlink.net>
To: "Truth Group (E-mail)" <citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:52 AM
Subject: [CitizensTruth] More questionable characters



> Happy Sunday Everyone,

>

> Here's a new site I've just been turned onto that seems like it might be

> another lightworker among us...

>

> http://www.small-mart.org/

>

> Michael Shuman's Blog

> Ideas for Obamanomics: Post-Meltdown Thoughts (Part II)

>

> Posted on November 25, 2008

>

> Many of you were probably dancing in the streets on election night. I

> was -

> even though I identify myself as an independent. That the country will

> finally enjoy a leader who actually cares about ideas, who speaks

> grammatical English, who believes in science more than ideology, who

> doesn't see ecological or women's rights as liberal conspiracies, who

> exudes discipline, confidence, and charisma, who sincerely cares about the

> have-nots in society, and who won't always resort to war as the answer to

> every national security problem is a huge relief.

>

> But beware. Or, more precisely, be wary. Two weeks before the election, a

> Sunday talk show featured a debate between representatives of each

> campaign: Senator Evan Bayh (D-Indiana) representing Barack Obama versus

> Senator John Kyl (R-Arizona) representing John McCain. When the debate

> turned to which candidate would improve the nation's economic

> competitiveness, the two senators agreed that the goal was to attract more

> global corporations and spent the rest of their time quibbling over the

> best means of doing so. The role of small business was relegated to Joe

> the

> Plumber.

>

> Obama's Big Thinking

> President-elect Obama has surrounded himself with the visionary captains

> of

> global capitalism - those who believe that "kinder, gentler" free trade

> and

> free finance, qualified with corporate responsibility, will save our

> fast-sinking economy. Obama's chief economic advisor during the campaign,

> Jason Furman, is best known for a paper arguing that Wal-Mart, because it

> provides cheap goods for all, is one of the most progressive corporations

> in America. Robert Reich made his career in a series of arguments in early

> issues of The American Prospect suggesting (against Laura Tyson, another

> Obama advisor) that ownership of business generally - let alone local

> ownership - no longer mattered. And as John McCain fairly observed,

> candidate Obama has surrounded himself with experts who made awful calls

> over the past decade about relaxing standards for low-income housing loans

> and deregulating Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, all of which contributed to

> the current financial mess.

>

> What's most worrisome is that no one on the Obama A-Team understands that

> the key to revitalizing the economy and to fixing the financial crisis is

> nurturing and expanding locally owned business. But at the B- and C-Team

> levels there is enormous sympathy for the views of us locavores. So what

> should they be doing? (Full article http://www.small-mart.org/obamanomics)

>

> Color me really grateful for the internet,

> Robin

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