[CitizensTruth] Is there anything to 2012?

[Kris Knight]

I have been following/reading about this for many years now.  So....

No to new age flim-flam, but some of the flimsier explanations likely  
include some of that interweaving and I expect manipulations like that  
to increase as we near the crucial
     dates.
No to desperate thinking as the source of info, although there are  
many who will experience varying degrees of desperation as they learn  
about this through uninformed or poorly
          informed filters of others who are trying to terrify.  And  
some will be desperate from hearing the facts about what is taking  
place, because some of it is nearly unfathomable
          in its implications. An example is those who are trying to  
terrify about global warming without giving the whole picture.....and  
yes, I include Al Gore
No to spiritual metaphor for...seems there is too much happening  
astrologically/galactically for this to simply a figment of someone's  
metaphorical creativity...
No to leading edge of a spiritual awakening...although the  
transformations expected may very well include awakenings of things  
like our "junk DNA" which are not junk at all, and
         much, much more

All choices listed by Hal too simplistic in my understanding...

I'd say for me, my vote is "other", which includes...convergence of  
many dynamics from different dimensions, culminating during year of  
2012 but already in process now.  This focus on the year 2012 seems to  
have originated from the Mayan calendar alleged prophecies, as near as  
I can tell, and there are many and varied explanations that I feel are  
well worth exploring, instead of taking one route and sticking to it  
without  being discerning beyond that.  One book in particular is  
excellent because it offers such a diversity of authors who have  
things to say about what they see going on leading up to 2012 and  
beyond....  THE MYSTERY OF 2012 is great for that reason and a good  
beginning.  It still stuns me that some people have no idea that there  
is anything at all unusual about the year 2012 but I encounter this on  
a relatively regular basis.

Some are derisively comparing this to the hype over Y2K.  I have to  
differ with this.  One of the main things that is astrologically  
scheduled to happen in Dec. of 2012 is the perfect alignment of the  
Sun, the Earth, and the center of the galaxy, which I believe occurs  
once every 26,000 years, if I remember correctly.  This has many  
implications that I have read about but I am in no position to explain  
them.  I have purchased several books and DVD's about 2012 so I can go  
into this time in human and galactic history as well informed and  
discerning as possible.

I believe David Wilcock has some of the best compiling of multiple  
dimensions of information as to what is happening and what is to come  
of anyone I know right now (divinecosmos.com).  I also found Richard  
Hoaglund's DVD "HYPERDIMENSIONAL ELECTION OF OBAMA AND 2012" to  
contain a great deal of converging information (3 hours long and VERY  
slow but lots of amazing info, so hang in there), much of which led me  
to affirm what I had already learned and other information reminding  
how much I don't yet have learned in order to have an understanding of  
what it is that is going on.  And what I can't grasp intellectually, I  
am going to accept as bigger than I can wrap my mind around but  
probably important and worth respecting for its implications  
nonetheless.  Hoaglund is a hyperdimensional physicist, acc. to him.   
I had not heard of this term before, but I am wondering if it overlaps  
in some way with quantum physics.

So, learning more and more about the transformation we're in the midst  
of now is what I'm about, and I'm humbled by the amount of study some  
people have already done about this.  If even a fraction of the big  
stuff I've learned about what is transpiring is true, we're in for  
some exciting times which will test us as nothing has before, which is  
not to say everything will be terrible; it is likely to at the very  
least be amazingly challenging and expansive.  It will, in many ways,  
be a glasshalffull/glasshalfempty time for us, depending on our  
interpretations, our desire to hold onto what we've known in the past,  
and our ability to be grateful for change.  And BTW, I do not consider  
death during these times THE THING to avoid if at all possible.  My  
viewpoint about that is different than alot of you, likely, so some  
things that might seem terrifying to you would not feel terrifying to  
me because of my viewpoint on death or the death of life as we used to  
know it.   Using the criteria of staying alive or keeping what was,  
alive, as a measure of the quality of the coming years' happenings  
doesn't compute for me.

I agree with Hal that conventional media is unlikely to get this  
"right".  I don't even know that any one of us can be the judge of  
"who gets it right".  It's arrogant to even think we can summarily  
figure that out, frankly.  We are so egocentric when it comes to our  
lives, our surroundings and our species.  Also, to call a group of  
people "the 2012 crowd" is also quite revealing...

I do believe this:  those who are doing sincere homework re. this will  
likely spend very little time trying to convince others to embrace  
their thinking.  I believe each person will either cooperate with what  
is transpiring, or not, and group mentality won't get us very far for  
this one, though group collective intention and emanation may.  It  
will likely be our emanations that will be the deciding factor here on  
how we each journey through what is transpiring, and that is WAY  
beyond the narrow spectrum we call intellect...

I am not familiar with the name of the second author but Echart Tolle  
likely wouldn't even bat an eyelash at being included in the 2012  
context of viewpoints.  He has one of the grandest and largest  
viewpoints on Earth right now and undoubtedly is here as one of our  
wayshowers.

And thanks, Hal, for asking...

On Jan 26, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Hal Snyder wrote:


> Thought I'd ask readers of this list, what do you think about 2012  

> and similar transformation lore? Some of it overlaps topics  

> discussed here.

>

> Is it:

>

> New age flim-flam?

> Desperate magical thinking, trying to cope with scary things coming  

> at us?

> Spiritual metaphor for (necessary) sociopolitical transformation of  

> humanity?

> Leading edge of a spiritual awakening?

> Other?

>

> Do people have preferred sources?

>

> This stuff is outside the box. I do not expect conventional media to  

> get much of it right.

>

> I have looked into the following:

>

> 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck

> 2013: The End of Days or a New Beginning by Marie D. Jones

> Apocalypse 2012: An Investigation into Civilization's End by  

> Lawrence E. Joseph

>

> Video series: The 2012 Enigma by David Wilcock

> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5b-kLvppdg&feature=PlayList&p=7E95D29D067AC7FB&index=0&playnext=1 

> >

>

> I think writings by Eckhart Tolle and Jill Bolte Taylor are  

> relevant, though neither of them might appreciate inclusion with the  

> 2012 crowd.

>

> Hal

>

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Kris Knight of WellAware Life Enhancement Center
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