[CitizensTruth] Is there anything to 2012?

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ETs, Whistleblowers, & 2012Intuitive researcher David Wilcock spoke about the existence of ETs, whistleblowers' testimonies, stargates, and the coming of 2012. He suggested that conditions in our galaxy have made human-type life plentiful. It's a myth that aliens are malevolent scary-looking creatures-- they actually look similar to ourselves, he said. 

Much of Wilcock's material about ETs was gathered from conversations he had with whistleblowers such as 'Henry Deacon' who claims that through his work in black budget projects he met and interacted with 40-45 different human/alien species. Deacon said he traveled to a base on Mars, and there were 240,000 personnel on the Red Planet, with only 10% of them born on Earth. He also explained the ancient means of traveling through a stargate didn't permit the transfer of anything non-biological, whereas the current method allows for instantaneous travel along with non-organic objects. 

Wilcock spoke about the testimony of Sgt. Clifford Stone (video interview) who said he knew of 57 different types of aliens that range from 1½ feet tall to 15 ft. tall, in every skin color including orange and green (beings from the Alpha Centauri system are said to have dark green skin and engage in a kind of photosynthesis). The ETs are particularly focused on Earth, as we are about to go through an energetic change in 2012 that will raise our frequency to their level, Wilcock explained. 

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--- On Mon, 1/26/09, Kris Knight <welaware at merr.com> wrote:

From: Kris Knight <welaware at merr.com>
Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Is there anything to 2012?
To: "Hal Snyder" <hal at drxyzzy.org>
Cc: "truth seekers" <citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net>
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 10:49 PM


I have been following/reading about this for many years now.  So....


No to new age flim-flam, but some of the flimsier explanations likely include some of that interweaving and I expect manipulations like that to increase as we near the crucial  
    dates.
No to desperate thinking as the source of info, although there are many who will experience varying degrees of desperation as they learn about this through uninformed or poorly 
         informed filters of others who are trying to terrify.  And some will be desperate from hearing the facts about what is taking place, because some of it is nearly unfathomable 
         in its implications. An example is those who are trying to terrify about global warming without giving the whole picture.....and yes, I include Al Gore
No to spiritual metaphor for...seems there is too much happening astrologically/galactically for this to simply a figment of someone's metaphorical creativity...
No to leading edge of a spiritual awakening...although the transformations expected may very well include awakenings of things like our "junk DNA" which are not junk at all, and 
        much, much more


All choices listed by Hal too simplistic in my understanding...


I'd say for me, my vote is "other", which includes...convergence of many dynamics from different dimensions, culminating during year of 2012 but already in process now.  This focus on the year 2012 seems to have originated from the Mayan calendar alleged prophecies, as near as I can tell, and there are many and varied explanations that I feel are well worth exploring, instead of taking one route and sticking to it without  being discerning beyond that.  One book in particular is excellent because it offers such a diversity of authors who have things to say about what they see going on leading up to 2012 and beyond....  THE MYSTERY OF 2012 is great for that reason and a good beginning.  It still stuns me that some people have no idea that there is anything at all unusual about the year 2012 but I encounter this on a relatively regular basis.


Some are derisively comparing this to the hype over Y2K.  I have to differ with this.  One of the main things that is astrologically scheduled to happen in Dec. of 2012 is the perfect alignment of the Sun, the Earth, and the center of the galaxy, which I believe occurs once every 26,000 years, if I remember correctly.  This has many implications that I have read about but I am in no position to explain them.  I have purchased several books and DVD's about 2012 so I can go into this time in human and galactic history as well informed and discerning as possible.  


I believe David Wilcock has some of the best compiling of multiple dimensions of information as to what is happening and what is to come of anyone I know right now (divinecosmos.com).  I also found Richard Hoaglund's DVD "HYPERDIMENSIONAL ELECTION OF OBAMA AND 2012" to contain a great deal of converging information (3 hours long and VERY slow but lots of amazing info, so hang in there), much of which led me to affirm what I had already learned and other information reminding how much I don't yet have learned in order to have an understanding of what it is that is going on.  And what I can't grasp intellectually, I am going to accept as bigger than I can wrap my mind around but probably important and worth respecting for its implications nonetheless.  Hoaglund is a hyperdimensional physicist, acc. to him.  I had not heard of this term before, but I am wondering if it overlaps in some way with quantum physics.


So, learning more and more about the transformation we're in the midst of now is what I'm about, and I'm humbled by the amount of study some people have already done about this.  If even a fraction of the big stuff I've learned about what is transpiring is true, we're in for some exciting times which will test us as nothing has before, which is not to say everything will be terrible; it is likely to at the very least be amazingly challenging and expansive.  It will, in many ways, be a glasshalffull/glasshalfempty time for us, depending on our interpretations, our desire to hold onto what we've known in the past, and our ability to be grateful for change.  And BTW, I do not consider death during these times THE THING to avoid if at all possible.  My viewpoint about that is different than alot of you, likely, so some things that might seem terrifying to you would not feel terrifying to me because of my viewpoint on death or the death of life as we used
 to know it.   Using the criteria of staying alive or keeping what was, alive, as a measure of the quality of the coming years' happenings doesn't compute for me.


I agree with Hal that conventional media is unlikely to get this "right".  I don't even know that any one of us can be the judge of "who gets it right".  It's arrogant to even think we can summarily figure that out, frankly.  We are so egocentric when it comes to our lives, our surroundings and our species.  Also, to call a group of people "the 2012 crowd" is also quite revealing...


I do believe this:  those who are doing sincere homework re. this will likely spend very little time trying to convince others to embrace their thinking.  I believe each person will either cooperate with what is transpiring, or not, and group mentality won't get us very far for this one, though group collective intention and emanation may.  It will likely be our emanations that will be the deciding factor here on how we each journey through what is transpiring, and that is WAY beyond the narrow spectrum we call intellect...


I am not familiar with the name of the second author but Echart Tolle likely wouldn't even bat an eyelash at being included in the 2012 context of viewpoints.  He has one of the grandest and largest viewpoints on Earth right now and undoubtedly is here as one of our wayshowers.


And thanks, Hal, for asking... 



On Jan 26, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Hal Snyder wrote:


Thought I'd ask readers of this list, what do you think about 2012 and similar transformation lore? Some of it overlaps topics discussed here.


Is it:



New age flim-flam?
Desperate magical thinking, trying to cope with scary things coming at us?
Spiritual metaphor for (necessary) sociopolitical transformation of humanity?
Leading edge of a spiritual awakening?
Other?



Do people have preferred sources?


This stuff is outside the box. I do not expect conventional media to get much of it right.


I have looked into the following:


2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck
2013: The End of Days or a New Beginning by Marie D. Jones
Apocalypse 2012: An Investigation into Civilization's End by Lawrence E. Joseph


Video series: The 2012 Enigma by David Wilcock

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5b-kLvppdg&feature=PlayList&p=7E95D29D067AC7FB&index=0&playnext=1>


I think writings by Eckhart Tolle and Jill Bolte Taylor are relevant, though neither of them might appreciate inclusion with the 2012 crowd.


Hal

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