[CitizensTruth] Is there anything to 2012?

[Robin Migalla]

Hi Jay and All,

Maybe there's a better way than seizing the power.  Maybe we can try the 
judo approach (or permaculture approach if you will), and that would be to 
find a way to harness the impetus of their efforts for our own agenda of 
world peace, harmony, liberty, and justice for all.

Just a little fodder for thought.

I love all of you folks on this list and am honored to be counted among 
you.

Cheers,
Robin

-----Original Message-----
From:	Jay Becker [SMTP:futurenotwritten at yahoo.com]
Sent:	Wednesday, January 28, 2009 07:21
To:	citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net; Hal Snyder
Subject:	Re: [CitizensTruth] Is there anything to 2012?

I agree with Kris that sticking labels on other people's understanding of 
complex reality is usually a means to avoid (and scare other people off 
from) looking at what that person or people have to say, so "flim flam" or 
"new age" doesn't tell me or others very much.

Yes, there are huge forces at work in the world in this moment and we are 
in a time of great turnings and great possibilities, in many but not all 
directions, but I don't think those forces are being moved by the alignment 
of planets or other heavenly bodies. I think we're seeing what Ray Lotta 
wrote about when he used this analogy, "To use an analogy to the complex 
motions of large parts of the Earthcs
crust and upper mantle, this is a discussion of shifting tectonic
plates in the world economy: some of their longer-term movements and
some of the more sudden and unexpected eruptions," at
http://revcom.us/a/136/lotta_faultlines_pt1-en.html
We've certainly been experiencing some of those eruptions, and I'm sure 
there are many and far greater to come. (And just forget the 
COMA--corporate media--as a tool to understand much beyond what the 
establishment wants us to think!)

But I don't think any of these will bring down the empire or end "life as 
we know it" in any good kind of way at all, any way that liberates the 
creativity and power of imagination that we could be applying to solve 
these great problems facing humanity, which I do believe is quite 
possible--that is, not without our conscious intervention in massive ways. 
No, as long as the forces of the status qua have their hands on the levers 
of power, and they are perceived as having the only 'legitimate use of 
armed force,' they will bludgeon their way through whatever crises they 
face. We're seeing that right now!

The good news is, I also think that all this suffering is totally 
unnecessary and a better way is possible, if we seize state power from 
their greedy, blood-soaked hands and put the huge resources, incredible 
technological and scientific advances already available (but so stultified 
and corrupted by their necessary enslavement to capital today) to work in 
the interests of humanity. If you want to get just a glimpse of that, check 
out just the first few pages of this: 
http://revcom.us/Constitution/constitution.html. It's profound, profoundly 
true, and poetic: All of this is unnecessary, it's on us, and we can do it. 
And keep going in your explorations, we really do have a world to win!

Jay

--- On Tue, 1/27/09, Hal Snyder <hal at drxyzzy.org> wrote:
From: Hal Snyder <hal at drxyzzy.org>
Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Is there anything to 2012?
To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:39 PM

Thank you, Chuck, Ragen, Robin, Dan, and Kris.
I sent the 2012 inquiry to a contact off-list and as a result will be 
facilitating a discussion of 2012 later this week. So, feel free to keep 
the sources coming. If I have time to put together a presentation I'll post 
it online and people can tear it apart make constructive suggestions. :-)
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