From aroyboy44 at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  2 23:53:53 2009
From: aroyboy44 at hotmail.com (andrew ritter)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 03:53:53 +0000
Subject: [CitizensTruth] NSA to help defend civilian agency networks
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NSA to help defend civilian agency networksAt issue is whether private data can be shielded from unauthorized scrutiny
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31716609/ns/technology_and_science-washington_post/


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From garyfranchi at gmail.com  Fri Jul  3 14:00:25 2009
From: garyfranchi at gmail.com (Gary Franchi)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:00:25 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] **URGENT NATIONAL EMERGENCY ALERT**
Message-ID: <2c9e41bb0907031100w8b79922vc8328f0b28f8fb1@mail.gmail.com>

Tomorrow marks the day we declared our independence from a tyrannical crown.
Today is the day you breathe the spirit of revolution.

Before you light that grill or attend that Tea Party, do your duty as an
American and *watch this EMERGENCY ALERT
video<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kE8xDMokpM>
*, then forward, embed, tweet, post, update, blog, share, and digg it to
every corner of the internet.

*Blood was shed so that you could be free, never forget that. *

 Your freedom is in jeopardy, take action now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kE8xDMokpM

*Forever in Freedom,*

Gary Franchi
  National Director
Restore the Republic!

 *PS. At 3pm Eastern today we will have a live EMERGENCY Webcast* to take
your questions and clarify this national emergency threat to freedom. Join
us via phone or web at http://RepublicMagazine.com/webinar
<http://republicmagazine.com/webinar>

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From hal at drxyzzy.org  Sat Jul  4 10:03:51 2009
From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder)
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:03:51 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Ron Paul - J'Accuse [was: Kissinger, Obama,
	The FED ...]
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Gary, you make some interesting points. Let's continue this debate.

First, on the issue of deferring health care reform to the states, I  
put to you that there is a historical pattern.

Resort to states' rights is an endgame tactic when opposition to  
reform becomes morally indefensible to the majority of the nation. It  
is a delaying tactic intended to draw out a long train of abuses  
(slavery is a case in point) and preserve the status quo against the  
irresistable forces of change.

Our nation is the last in the industrialized world to provide  
universal, not-for-profit-health care to every resident. We are  
debating it now, just as we are debating whether the world was created  
a few thousand years ago. It is as if people were still discussing the  
merits of slavery or whether women should vote, long after the rest of  
civil society has moved on. Not coincidentally, both the right for  
women to vote and the right to medical care were included in the 1948  
UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

A person has only to review just a few of the thousands of personal  
accounts, for example here
http://stories.barackobama.com/healthcare
to understand that health care reform is long past due.

I am aware of numerous abuses of government at any level. I got a  
recent reminder this week when a friend mailed me a report of the  
police raid (with pepper spray) of the Busby fundraiser. http://www.truthout.org/070209L

On the other hand, each of us has a personal responsibility for our  
share of the commons. The most obvious examples of this are  
custodianship of air, water, and soil, but it goes far beyond that.  
Rivers and winds and aquifers pay no regard to man-made boundaries of  
state and nation. There is no opting out of this fundamental  
responsibility, any more than there is opting out of any evolving  
standard of basic human decency. The need to cooperate with others  
becomes increasingly urgent as humanity increasingly challenges the  
physical limits of our planetary life support system.

Happy 4th, all.

Hal

On Jun 27, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Gary Franchi wrote:

> Thanks Hal, glad you liked the production work... it's been a long  
> road to get it up to that level...
>
> but anyway... I can see your points and respect them, however the  
> bottom line is the Federal Government doesn't have the authority for  
> any of the programs you spoke of. Now would it be wise to wipe out  
> medicare overnight? No way! Am I for casting aside the uninsurable?  
> No way!
>
> The government has grown far beyond its intended purpose and I am  
> all for states offing programs to fill the healthcare void if they  
> see fit... but mandating it for the whole nation with no opt-out  
> feature?
>
> I remember when I got my first paycheck and I saw all the crazy  
> deductions the Federal Government took... I was like What the Hell,  
> no one asked me! Building an opt-out feature and let the people  
> choose to participate is how things should be done... this includes,  
> social-security, medicare, and every other program the corrupt  
> politicians decide to throw our way...
>
> It's a state issue, this is a nation made up of sovereign  
> independent states designed to check the Feds and fill the void...
>
> As for the fire department analogy... it is irrelevant because at  
> the local level the local taxes cover it... and I am not opposed to  
> that.
>
> -Gary
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Hal Snyder <hal at drxyzzy.org> wrote:
> Nice job in production and post with the video installment, Gary.
>
> But Ron Paul on "socialized healthcare"? He uses a combination of  
> scare talk and non sequiturs. Didn't convince me at all.
>
> J'accuse. I say it's time to stand up to Ron Paul and all the others  
> who have marinated our culture in their free-market flim-flam for  
> decades.
>
> Let's have some debate. We came together on this mailing list with a  
> common interest. Maybe it's time to discuss our differences.
>
> Hal
>
> "government crisis rather than medical crisis" - this is pure  
> rhetoric; he offers no facts to back this up. Tell the 47 million  
> people on Medicare that you're going to cancel their evil,  
> socialized, health care plans and they can go apply for coverage in  
> the free market. Tell the ones who are not completely uninsurable  
> due to a pre-existing condition that they can trade the 3% overhead  
> of Medicare for a private plan with 30% overhead where any funds  
> spent on actual health care are considered "medical loss".
>
> Ron Paul says most people don't talk about why medical costs are so  
> high. Actually there is a lot of discussion going on about this.  
> Private insurers keep 25% to 50% of premiums as profit and overhead.  
> They spend our health care dollars on CEO salaries, marketing,  
> underwriting, and a mushrooming bureaucracy whose sole purpose is to  
> deny paying for care.
>
> Ron Paul talks about choice without mentioning the limits of the  
> present system. We have 94% of insurance markets in the United  
> States highly concentrated, with insurers thriving in the anti- 
> competitive "free market", raking in enormous profits. This is  
> hardly a "reaction to government" as Ron Paul says; it is  
> profiteering in the worst way, getting rich off the suffering of  
> others. One quarter to one half people employed in the U.S. complain  
> about job lock - we are stuck in dead-end jobs, just to get some  
> level of coverage. Meanwhile, health plans offered by employers -  
> decreasing every day - are limited in number and limited in benefits.
>
> Tax credits are regressive. The let the fat cats off the hook and  
> give a few dollars to the rest of us. They don't help if you're  
> unemployed or just getting by.
>
> You want choice, look at Australia, where people pay a flat 1.5%  
> personal income tax to cover their major health care needs,  
> regardless of who employs them or whether they have a job at all.  
> You are free to choose your doctor and other practitioners. You are  
> free to start your own business, take time between jobs to care for  
> a loved one, or change careers, and still have uninterrupted  
> affordable, quality care.
>
> "if the government starts a program, we ought to have the right to  
> opt out of the program"... This is deceptively simplistic and  
> ignores how deeply interconnected people are today. Consider fire  
> departments. Do you want to opt out of paying for fire protection?  
> If you do, you raise the cost for others and put your neighbors at  
> risk. What about programs to protect the environment? Anyone living  
> comfortably in this society is reaping the benefits of a system we  
> all put in place.
>
> Fire Care - here's a video extending the fire department analogy
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhpUG4apgrE
>
> On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Gary Franchi wrote:
>
>> Reality Report (episode 12)
>> Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess, featuring Ron Paul  
>> and Alex Jones
>>
>> Watch it here: http://blip.tv/file/2282584
>>
>> This Reality Report is stuffed to the gills with info just for you!  
>> We've got Kissinger calling to over throw Iran and Obama telling us  
>> we've done it before! We have the Federal Reserve confessing they  
>> misplaced a Trillion or so of your dollars and a few guys who are  
>> fighting Congressman Mark Kirk to get some transparency for the US  
>> Central Bank through HR 1207.
>>
>> We also have the extended report from Jekyll Island with Katherine  
>> Albrecht, Bob Schulz, Adam Kokesh, Clyde Cleveland, Ernest Hancock,  
>> G. Edward Griffin, Michael Badnarik and more.
>>
>> To add to the fun Gary Franchi will take you deep inside Alex Jones  
>> Studios for an exclusive behind the scenes look while filming for  
>> Camp FEMA.
>>
>> And to put the icing on the cake, Ron Paul makes an appearance to  
>> share his thoughts on Socialized Health Care.
>>
>> Oh and that squirmy Dictator Kim Jong Il rears his ugly head to  
>> shout some threats at the United States.
>>
>> With appearances by: Mark Kirk, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Katherine  
>> Albrecht, Adam Kokesh, Clyde Cleveland, Ernest Hancock, Ernest Guy  
>> Cunningham, G. Edward Griffin, Michael Badnarik, Dr. Bob Frady and  
>> more!
>>
>> This is one jam packed report that you need to see and share!
>>
>> Watch it here: http://blip.tv/file/2282584  
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>> CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net
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From richardfobes at hotmail.com  Sat Jul  4 14:12:40 2009
From: richardfobes at hotmail.com (Richard Fobes)
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:12:40 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] FW: Override City Council Veto - Stand Together Now
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From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com  Sun Jul  5 15:04:51 2009
From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry)
Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:04:51 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Ron Paul - J'Accuse [was: Kissinger, Obama,
 The FED ...]
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Well . . .

Here's my two cents.

First the Constitution DOES have the authority for "public projects" as 
I will call them - through the general welfare clause.

Problem is, the federal government is NOT "providing" for the general 
welfare when it puts the nation into debt through its money system and 
then raises taxes as a means of paying for that debt. This debt-money 
system then forces a top down managed economy which rewards the squeaky 
wheel (not to mention corrupt politicians and businessmen). All this 
then in effect pits one interest group against another. AND -  this top 
down, micro-managed system of favoritism is NOT Constitutional! To wit: 
Congress is charged with providing for the GENERAL welfare!!!

Another point for debate. Do we REALLY want the federal government 
telling us when and how high to jump in order to "qualify" for an 
officially sanctioned (toxic) health treatment or provider? I don't, but 
inasmuch as 80% of the populace wants some sort of health care "benefit" 
then I do think we need to consider how this might best be done.

One thing for sure, REAL health care CANNOT be accomplished without a 
permanent return to Constitutional money! For those who think gold is 
money, PLEASE read the Constitution! You might also read the first 
article of my series called The Ron Paul Phenomenon Is Not Dead: 
http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/evaluating-the-message/

As to the United Nations, I hope you ALL think carefully about that 
Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Was it just a cover for a hidden 
agenda?

PLEASE do read through my slide presentation (Ignore typos I will 
correct as soon as I can): 
http://www.thetwofacesofmoney.com/index.php/Site/TheEncroachingEconomicPoliceState

and then do more research. The UN is simply part of the economic matrix. 
Watch Hotel Rwanda to see how effective it is at peacekeeping.

As to states being sovereign and independent, that is fodder for another 
discussion.

Geraldine Perry


Hal Snyder wrote:
> Gary, you make some interesting points. Let's continue this debate.
>
> First, on the issue of deferring health care reform to the states, I 
> put to you that there is a historical pattern.
>
> Resort to states' rights is an endgame tactic when opposition to 
> reform becomes /morally indefensible/ to the majority of the 
> nation. It is a /delaying tactic/ intended to draw out a /long train 
> of abuses/ (slavery is a case in point) and preserve the status quo 
> against the irresistable forces of change.
>
> Our nation is the last in the industrialized world to provide 
> universal, not-for-profit-health care to every resident. We are 
> debating it now, just as we are debating whether the world was created 
> a few thousand years ago. It is as if people were still discussing the 
> merits of slavery or whether women should vote, long after the rest of 
> civil society has moved on. Not coincidentally, both the right for 
> women to vote and the right to medical care were included in the 1948 
> UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
>
> A person has only to review just a few of the thousands of personal 
> accounts, for example here
> http://stories.barackobama.com/healthcare
> to understand that health care reform is long past due.
>
> I am aware of numerous abuses of government at any level. I got a 
> recent reminder this week when a friend mailed me a report of the 
> police raid (with pepper spray) of the Busby 
> fundraiser. http://www.truthout.org/070209L
>
> On the other hand, each of us has a personal responsibility for our 
> share of the commons. The most obvious examples of this are 
> custodianship of air, water, and soil, but it goes far beyond that. 
> Rivers and winds and aquifers pay no regard to man-made boundaries of 
> state and nation. There is no opting out of this fundamental 
> responsibility, any more than there is opting out of any evolving 
> standard of basic human decency. The need to cooperate with others 
> becomes increasingly urgent as humanity increasingly challenges the 
> physical limits of our planetary life support system.
>
> Happy 4th, all.
>
> Hal
>
> On Jun 27, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Gary Franchi wrote:
>
>> Thanks Hal, glad you liked the production work... it's been a long 
>> road to get it up to that level...
>>
>> but anyway... I can see your points and respect them, however the 
>> bottom line is the Federal Government doesn't have the authority for 
>> any of the programs you spoke of. Now would it be wise to wipe out 
>> medicare overnight? No way! Am I for casting aside the uninsurable? 
>> No way!
>>
>> The government has grown far beyond its intended purpose and I am all 
>> for states offing programs to fill the healthcare void if they see 
>> fit... but mandating it for the whole nation with no opt-out feature?
>>
>> I remember when I got my first paycheck and I saw all the crazy 
>> deductions the Federal Government took... I was like What the Hell, 
>> no one asked me! Building an opt-out feature and let the people 
>> choose to participate is how things should be done... this includes, 
>> social-security, medicare, and every other program the corrupt 
>> politicians decide to throw our way...
>>
>> It's a state issue, this is a nation made up of sovereign independent 
>> states designed to check the Feds and fill the void...
>>
>> As for the fire department analogy... it is irrelevant because at the 
>> local level the local taxes cover it... and I am not opposed to that.
>>
>> -Gary
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Hal Snyder <hal at drxyzzy.org 
>> <mailto:hal at drxyzzy.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Nice job in production and post with the video installment, Gary.
>>
>>     But Ron Paul on *"socialized healthcare"?* He uses a combination
>>     of /scare talk/ and /non sequiturs/. Didn't convince me at all. 
>>
>>     /J'accuse./ I say it's time to stand up to Ron Paul and all the
>>     others who have marinated our culture in their free-market
>>     flim-flam for decades.
>>
>>     Let's have some debate. We came together on this mailing list
>>     with a common interest. Maybe it's time to discuss our differences.
>>
>>     Hal
>>
>>     "government crisis rather than medical crisis" - this is pure
>>     rhetoric; he offers *no facts* to back this up. Tell the 47
>>     million people on Medicare that you're going to cancel their
>>     evil, socialized, health care plans and they can go apply for
>>     coverage in the free market. Tell the ones who are not completely
>>     uninsurable due to a pre-existing condition that they can trade
>>     the 3% overhead of Medicare for a private plan with 30% overhead
>>     where any funds spent on actual health care are considered
>>     "medical loss".
>>
>>     Ron Paul says most people don't talk about why medical costs are
>>     so high. Actually there is a lot of discussion going on about
>>     this. Private insurers keep 25% to 50% of premiums as profit and
>>     overhead. They spend our health care dollars on CEO salaries,
>>     marketing, underwriting, and a mushrooming bureaucracy whose sole
>>     purpose is to deny paying for care.
>>
>>     Ron Paul talks about choice without mentioning the limits of the
>>     present system. We have 94% of insurance markets in the United
>>     States highly concentrated, with insurers thriving in the
>>     anti-competitive "free market", raking in enormous profits. This
>>     is hardly a "reaction to government" as Ron Paul says; it is
>>     /profiteering/ in the worst way, getting rich off the suffering
>>     of others. One quarter to one half people employed in the U.S.
>>     complain about /job lock/ - we are stuck in dead-end jobs, just
>>     to get some level of coverage. Meanwhile, health plans offered by
>>     employers - decreasing every day - are limited in number and
>>     limited in benefits.
>>
>>     Tax credits are regressive. The let the fat cats off the hook and
>>     give a few dollars to the rest of us. They don't help if you're
>>     unemployed or just getting by.
>>
>>     You want choice, look at Australia, where people pay a flat 1.5%
>>     personal income tax to cover their major health care needs,
>>     regardless of who employs them or whether they have a job at all.
>>     You are free to choose your doctor and other practitioners. You
>>     are free to start your own business, take time between jobs to
>>     care for a loved one, or change careers, and still have
>>     uninterrupted affordable, quality care.
>>
>>     "if the government starts a program, we ought to have the right
>>     to opt out of the program"... This is deceptively simplistic and
>>     ignores how deeply interconnected people are today. Consider fire
>>     departments. Do you want to opt out of paying for fire
>>     protection? If you do, you raise the cost for others and put your
>>     neighbors at risk. What about programs to protect the
>>     environment? Anyone living comfortably in this society is reaping
>>     the benefits of a system we all put in place.
>>
>>     Fire Care - here's a video extending the fire department analogy
>>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhpUG4apgrE
>>
>>     On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Gary Franchi wrote:
>>
>>>     *Reality Report* /(episode 12) /
>>>     *Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess, featuring Ron
>>>     Paul and Alex Jones*
>>>
>>>     Watch it here: http://blip.tv/file/2282584
>>>
>>>     This Reality Report is stuffed to the gills with info just for
>>>     you! We've got Kissinger calling to over throw Iran and Obama
>>>     telling us we've done it before! We have the Federal Reserve
>>>     confessing they misplaced a Trillion or so of your dollars and a
>>>     few guys who are fighting Congressman Mark Kirk to get some
>>>     transparency for the US Central Bank through HR 1207.
>>>
>>>     We also have the extended report from Jekyll Island with
>>>     Katherine Albrecht, Bob Schulz, Adam Kokesh, Clyde Cleveland,
>>>     Ernest Hancock, G. Edward Griffin, Michael Badnarik and more.
>>>
>>>     To add to the fun Gary Franchi will take you deep inside Alex
>>>     Jones Studios for an exclusive behind the scenes look while
>>>     filming for Camp FEMA.
>>>
>>>     And to put the icing on the cake, Ron Paul makes an appearance
>>>     to share his thoughts on Socialized Health Care.
>>>
>>>     Oh and that squirmy Dictator Kim Jong Il rears his ugly head to
>>>     shout some threats at the United States.
>>>
>>>     With appearances by: Mark Kirk, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Katherine
>>>     Albrecht, Adam Kokesh, Clyde Cleveland, Ernest Hancock, Ernest
>>>     Guy Cunningham, G. Edward Griffin, Michael Badnarik, Dr. Bob
>>>     Frady and more!
>>>
>>>     *This is one jam packed report that you need to see and share!*
>>>
>>>     Watch it here: http://blip.tv/file/2282584
>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>     CitizensTruth mailing list
>>>     CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net
>>>     <mailto:CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net>
>>>     http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth
>>>     website: http://citizenstruth.info
>>
>>
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From richardfobes at hotmail.com  Sun Jul  5 22:10:14 2009
From: richardfobes at hotmail.com (Richard Fobes)
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:10:14 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Troop movement should not be confused with a troop
 withdrawal from Iraq
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      Congressman Kucinich very clearly explains that in Iraq we are having a "troop movement" which is not the same as a "troop withdrawal".  This is not a victory for peace. 






July 02 2009

Kucinich: "Troop movement should not be confused with a troop withdrawal from Iraq" 



By Congressman Kucinich 



Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) today made the following statement regarding the announcement that U.S. troops have left the cities and towns of Iraq and turned over formal security to Iraqi security forces.



"The withdrawal of some U.S. combat troops from Iraq's cities is welcome and long overdue news. However, it is important to remember that this is not the same as a withdrawal of U.S. troops and contractors from Iraq. 



"U.S. troop combat missions throughout Iraq are not scheduled to end until more than a year from now in August of 2010. In addition, U.S. troops are not scheduled for a complete withdrawal for another two and a half years on December 31, 2011. Rather, U.S. troops are leaving Iraqi cities for military bases in Iraq. They are still in Iraq, and they can be summoned back at any time. 



"This is not a great victory for peace. On May 19, the Christian Science Monitor reported that Iraqi and U.S. military officials virtually redrew the city limits of Baghdad in order to consider the Army's Forward Operating Base Falcon as outside the city, despite every map of Baghdad clearly showing it with in city limits. In fact, according to Section 24.3 of the "SOFA" U.S. troops can remain at any agreed upon facility. The reported reason for this decision is to ensure U.S. troops are able to 'help maintain security in south Baghdad along what were the fault lines in the sectarian war.'



"This troop movement should not be confused with a troop withdrawal from Iraq. In reality, this is a small step toward Iraqi sovereignty as Iraqi security forces begin assuming greater control over security operations, but it is a long way from independence and a withdrawal of the U.S. military presence."



Source: Dennis Kucinich 





 

      

    
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From richardfobes at hotmail.com  Sun Jul  5 22:30:30 2009
From: richardfobes at hotmail.com (Richard Fobes)
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:30:30 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Cynthia McKinney Speaks Out Against Israel, the U.S,
 and Obama From Israeli Jail
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As of this morning, McKinney and other American prisoners were set to return to the U.S., reportedly through Boston.

To follow the story, visit http://www.greenpartywatch.org/


Below is a report from McKinney in an Israeli jail cell on July 4th.





						
			Cynthia McKinney Speaks Out From Jail In Israel
			July 4th, 2009 by Ronald Hardy  ? No Comments
			
				Sent in by Scott McClarty of GPUS: 

Former U.S. Congresswoman speaks out of her jail in Israel

The Palestine Telegraph, Saturday, 04 July 2009

Palestine, July 4, 2009 (Pal Telegraph) - This is Cynthia McKinney and I?m speaking from an Israeli prison cellblock in Ramle. [I am one
of] the Free Gaza 21, human rights activists currently imprisoned for
trying to take medical supplies to Gaza, building supplies - and even
crayons for children, I had a suitcase full of crayons for children.
While we were on our way to Gaza the Israelis threatened to fire on
our boat, but we did not turn around. The Israelis high-jacked and
arrested us because we wanted to give crayons to the children in Gaza.
We have been detained, and we want the people of the world to see how
we have been treated just because we wanted to deliver humanitarian
assistance to the people of Gaza. At the outbreak of Israel?s Operation
?Cast Lead? [in December 2008], I boarded a Free Gaza boat with one
day?s notice and tried, as the US representative in a multi-national
delegation, to deliver 3 tons of medical supplies to an already
besieged and ravaged Gaza.



During Operation Cast Lead, U.S.-supplied F-16?s rained hellfire on a
trapped people. Ethnic cleansing became full scale outright genocide.
U.S.-supplied white phosphorus, depleted uranium, robotic technology,
DIME weapons, and cluster bombs - new weapons creating injuries never
treated before by Jordanian and Norwegian doctors. I was later told by
doctors who were there in Gaza during Israel?s onslaught that Gaza had
become Israel?s veritable weapons testing laboratory, people used to
test and improve the kill ratio of their weapons.

The world saw Israel?s despicable violence thanks to al-Jazeera
Arabic and Press TV that broadcast in English. I saw those broadcasts
live and around the clock, not from the USA but from Lebanon, where my
first attempt to get into Gaza had ended because the Israeli military
rammed the boat I was on in international water ? It?s a miracle that
I?m even here to write about my second encounter with the Israeli
military, again a humanitarian mission aborted by the Israeli military.

The Israeli authorities have tried to get us to confess that we
committed a crime ? I am now known as Israeli prisoner number 88794.
How can I be in prison for collecting crayons to kids?

Zionism has surely run out of its last legitimacy if this is what it
does to people who believe so deeply in human rights for all that they
put their own lives on the line for someone else?s children. Israel is
the fullest expression of Zionism, but if Israel fears for its security
because Gaza?s children have crayons then not only has Israel lost its
last shred of legitimacy, but Israel must be declared a failed state.

I am facing deportation from the state that brought me here at
gunpoint after commandeering our boat. I was brought to Israel against
my will. I am being held in this prison because I had a dream that
Gaza?s children could color & paint, that Gaza?s wounded could be
healed, and that Gaza?s bombed-out houses could be rebuilt.

But I?ve learned an interesting thing by being inside this prison.
First of all, it?s incredibly black: populated mostly by Ethiopians who
also had a dream ? like my cellmates, one who is pregnant. They are all
are in their twenties. They thought they were coming to the Holy Land.
They had a dream that their lives would be better ? The once proud,
never colonized Ethiopia [has been thrown into] the back pocket of the
United States, and become a place of torture, rendition, and
occupation. Ethiopians must free their country because superpower
politics [have] become more important than human rights and
self-determination.

My cellmates came to the Holy Land so they could be free from the
exigencies of superpower politics. They committed no crime except to
have a dream. They came to Israel because they thought that Israel held
promise for them. Their journey to Israel through Sudan and Egypt was
arduous.

I can only imagine what it must have been like for them. And it
wasn?t cheap. Many of them represent their family?s best collective
efforts for self-fulfilment. They made their way to the United Nations
High Commission for Refugees. They got their yellow paper of
identification. They got their certificate for police protection. They
are refugees from tragedy, and they made it to Israel only after they
arrived Israel told them ?there is no UN in Israel.?

The police here have license to pick them up & suck them into
the black hole of a farce for a justice system. These beautiful,
industrious and proud women represent the hopes of entire families. The
idea of Israel tricked them and the rest of us. In a widely
propagandized slick marketing campaign, Israel represented itself as a
place of refuge and safety for the world?s first Jews and Christian. I
too believed that marketing and failed to look deeper.

The truth is that Israel lied to the world. Israel lied to the
families of these young women. Israel lied to the women themselves who
are now trapped in Ramle?s detention facility. And what are we to do?
One of my cellmates cried today. She has been here for 6 months. As an
American, crying with them is not enough. The policy of the United
States must be better, and while we watch President Obama give 12.8
trillion dollars to the financial elite of the United States it ought
now be clear that hope, change, and ?yes we can? were powerfully
presented images of dignity and self-fulfilment, individually and
nationally, that besieged people everywhere truly believed in.

It was a slick marketing campaign as slickly put to the world and to
the voters of America as was Israel?s marketing to the world. It
tricked all of us but, more tragically, these young women.

We must cast an informed vote about better candidates seeking to
represent us. I have read and re-read Dr. Martin Luther King Junior?s
letter from a Birmingham jail. Never in my wildest dreams would I have
ever imagined that I too would one day have to do so. It is clear that
taxpayers in Europe and the U.S. have a lot to atone for, for what
they?ve done to others around the world.

What an irony! My son begins his law school program without me
because I am in prison, in my own way trying to do my best, again, for
other people?s children. Forgive me, my son. I guess I?m experiencing
the harsh reality which is why people need dreams. [But] I?m lucky. I
will leave this place. Has Israel become the place where dreams die?

Ask the people of Palestine. Ask the stream of black and Asian men
whom I see being processed at Ramle. Ask the women on my cellblock.
[Ask yourself:] what are you willing to do?

Let?s change the world together & reclaim what we all need as
human beings: Dignity. I appeal to the United Nations to get these
women of Ramle, who have done nothing wrong other than to believe in
Israel as the guardian of the Holy Land, resettled in safe homes. I
appeal to the United State?s Department of State to include the plight
of detained UNHCR-certified refugees in the Israel country report in
its annual human rights report. I appeal once again to President Obama
to go to Gaza: send your special envoy, George Mitchell there, and to
engage Hamas as the elected choice of the Palestinian people.

I dedicate this message to those who struggle to achieve a free
Palestine, and to the women I?ve met at Ramle. This is Cynthia
McKinney, July 2nd 2009, also known as Ramle prisoner number 88794.

Cynthia McKinney is a former U.S. Congresswoman, Green Party
presidential candidate, and an outspoken advocate for human rights and
social justice. The first African-American woman to represent the state
of Georgia, McKinney served six terms in the U.S. House of
Representatives, from 1993-2003, and from 2005-2007. She was arrested
and forcibly abducted to Israel while attempting to take humanitarian
and reconstruction supplies to Gaza on June 30th. For more information,
please see http://www.FreeGaza.org

							
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From Walterb306 at cs.com  Mon Jul  6 12:44:49 2009
From: Walterb306 at cs.com (Walterb306 at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:44:49 EDT
Subject: [CitizensTruth] ARTICLE- Honduras Coup General Was Charged in 1993
	Auto Theft Ring
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All,

FYI.

Unsavory narcotics links.

Beverley

Honduras Coup General Was Charged in 1993 Auto Theft Ring
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/al-giordano/2009/07/honduras-coup-
general-was-charged-1993-auto-theft-ring


Posted by Al Giordano - July 4, 2009 at 4:15 pm 
By Al Giordano
 
General Romeo V?squez Vel?squez, who appeared on stage this week with 
Honduran coup "president" Roberto Michiletti, and who ordered the kidnapping and 
forced deportation of P resident Manuel Zelaya last Sunday, was charged with 
grand auto theft in 1993, Narco News has learned.
On February 2, 1993, the front page of the Tegucigalpa daily El Heraldo 
included this headline: "Eleven Members of the Gang of 13 Go to Prison":
"Eleven individuals arrested for their alleged participation in the theft 
of 200 luxury automobiles? were sent to prison yesterday? (including) 
Colonel Wilfredo Leva Caborrea and Major Romeo V?squez Vel?squez, accused as 
alleged participants?"
(Narco News makes the document available for download by press and public 
here , including two interior pages of the newspaper that report on the case, 
each mentioning the then-major, now commander of the military coup in 
Honduras.)
 
The newspaper report further stated:
"?Major Romeo V?squez Vel?squez, connected to the theft of luxury cars in 
the 'Gang of 13,' will be imprisoned in the Central Penitentiary (PC, in its 
Spanish initials)."
Prior to his criminal acts, V?squez attended the US School of the Americas 
in 1976 and 1984, when the school was located in Panama, but he did not 
graduate.
It was the same Honduran Congress that endorsed, after the fact, last 
Sunday's military coup, and named Roberto Micheletti as the country's 
"president," that promoted this common car thief as head of the Armed Forces.
Memo to the General: Objects in the rear view mirror are closer than they 
appea?

COMMENTS
The Devil is in the Details
Submitted July 4, 2009 - 11:52 pm by Bill Conroy 
As in Mexico, Guatemala, Colombia and beyond in Latin America, the Honduran 
military, at the highest levels, has a track record of taking its cut of 
profits from the global narco-trafficking market - with U.S. agencies in the 
thick of the mess, often with conflicting missions that pit covert operations 
against law enforcement objectives. And overseas, the covert operations 
carried out by the CIA - and Pentagon intel agencies - always trump law 
enforcement. And like trains, these covert ops are hard to stop once at full steam, 
even by a well-intentioned White House, given their intricacies and layers 
of compartmentalization - which make such dark operations the perfect 
breeding grounds for a fungus called corruption.
It's something to keep in mind, history that is, and a nuance that it seems 
many who are quick to pounce on the Obama administration seemingly fail to 
consider - or even recognize. Operatives unleashed under the Bush 
administration [and even before then] now years deep into such missions in the region, 
who have found this line of work lucrative, might not be so easy to shut 
down as our high-school civics classes led us to believe. In places like 
Honduras, the future of democracy is under attack by this deep-seated corruption 
- which respects no borders and exists, sometimes thrives, within the 
framework of all governments, including our own.
Excerpts from a December 1997 report published by the Transnational 
Institute:
Unfinished Business: The Military and Drugs in Honduras
An ex-police officer recently commented that at the beginning of the 1990s, 
the United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) paid military 
officers for each kilogram of cocaine confiscated. It was common for "high 
ranking officers" to show up before large scale missions to "guard" the drugs, 
and, obviously, await their reward.
This DEA strategy changed when it was proven that many military personnel 
were in the business.
? A prosecutor from the Attorney General's office commented that they have 
evidence that several high-ranking officers control small drug rings. It is 
difficult to capture them because they operate under a veil of impunity. He 
noted, "They have controlled everything that is drug trafficking for many 
years and, as a result, are experienced at evading justice."
? At the same time, there is a perceptible increase in banking, 
construction, tourism, availability of credit cards, beauty contests, sports 
investments, and a series of mechanisms that give reason to believe that Tegucigalpa 
is becoming a strong zone for the laundering of profits from drug trafficking 
and organized crime.
? At the request of an American journalist, the DEA declassified fragmented 
information about Honduran soldiers involved in drug trafficking. The 
report mentions, among others, retired Gen. Jos? Abdengo Bueso Rosa, an 
unconditional ally of the United States and a trained assassin. The documentation 
states that Bueso was found guilty of transporting 760 pounds of cocaine to 
Florida. According to the DEA report, the drugs were to be used to kill the 
Honduran president, Roberto Suazo C?rdoba, whose term lasted from 1982 to 1984. 
Bueso was convicted in 1986 at the Miami District Court.
The same DEA documents mention the former chief of the Honduran armed 
forces, Gen. Humberto Regalado Hern? ndez, suspected of protecting Colombian drug 
traffickers, as well as of diverting funds from US military aid to a 
personal account.
Relations between military personnel and drug traffickers are a type of 
nebulous mystery. When DEA agents found evidence of officers involved in the 
business in 1989, they were suddenly removed from their posts in Tegucigalpa. 
The organization's offices were then officially closed on that date, 
according to the bulletin of the Honduran Documentation Center (CEDOH).
From documents at The Natonal Security Archive:
Jos? Bueso Rosa
Reagan administration officials interceded on behalf of Jos? Bueso Rosa, a 
Honduran general who was heavily involved with the CIA's contra operations 
and faced trial for his role in a massive drug shipment to the United States. 
In 1984 Bueso and co-conspirators hatched a plan to assassinate Honduran 
President Roberto Suazo C?rdoba; the plot was to be financed with a $40 
million cocaine shipment to the United States, which the FBI intercepted in 
Florida.
Document 13 ?Declassified e-mail messages indicate that Oliver North led 
the behind-the-scenes effort to seek leniency for Bueso . The messages record 
the efforts of U.S. officials to "cabal quietly" to get Bueso off the hook, 
be it by "pardon, clemency, deportation, [or] reduced sentence." Eventually 
they succeeded in getting Bueso a short sentence in "Club Fed," a white 
collar prison in Florida.
Document 14 (See page 76 of Document 6, the Kerry Report )?The Kerry 
Committee report reviewed the case, and noted that the man Reagan officials aided 
was involved in a conspiracy that the Justice Department deemed the "most 
significant case of narco-terrorism yet discovered."
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From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com  Mon Jul  6 18:50:03 2009
From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry)
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:50:03 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Proof positive that ALL vaccines cause immediate
 and/or delayed damage
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PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY.

Dr. Moulden (MD, PhD) joins a growing lits of vaccine truth tellers and 
honors the work of Antoine Bechamp 
(http://thehealthadvantage.com/biologicalterrain.html )

Moulden has prepared a three part DVD series to help inform the general 
public about this monumentally important issue.

Trailer here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjkbLtHIUDI

Summary: proves, in medical physiology and clinical sciences, with new 
and old diagnostic technologies, that ALL vaccinations cause immediate 
and delayed, acute and chronic, permanent and transient, disease and 
disorders that cut across all organ systems.Tissue damages are a result 
of impaired blood flow and blood 'sludging" in the microscopic vessels 
throughout the circulatory system. Autism, ADHD, Sudden infant death, 
Gardasil, Gulf war syndrome, specific learning disabilities, seizures 
and more.

Here is the first of 3 emotionally wrenching five minute clips of 
Moulden at a University conference showing SOME of the evidence that ALL 
vaccines are harmful not helpful: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4l4WyQuKhY&feature=related

Some important background on Dr. Moulden and some of  his findings and 
insight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPOPRnYjF0s&feature=related

From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com  Mon Jul  6 18:50:35 2009
From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry)
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:50:35 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Tribute to America's B-Day AND IMPORTANT INVITE
 [Fwd: AMI Fourth of July Message]
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PLEASE consider attending and please forward this email to any 
potentially interested parties . . .

Monetary Reform Conference at Roosevelt University in Chicago
September 24 through 27
$100 Discount for those registering before July 15

For more info see below the tribute to our country's birth (and theft)


-------- Original Message --------


Friends please do recirculate and forward this message to your email 
contacts!

A July 4th message to friends of the American Monetary Institute,

Dear Fellow Americans, and friends around the Earth,
This 4th of July as we proudly celebrate our declaration of independence 
from the tyranny of a mad Brit King, lets remember the victory a small 
group of dedicated, courageous men and women achieved against the 
world's most powerful military of their time.

It was a victory that appeared extremely improbable at best, as they 
pledged their lives to fight for its success. And as events and battles 
were fought, the possibility of a favorable outcome grew even smaller. 
But at the right moment, help from France turned the tide and the 
British were defeated.

Defeated militarily, but not monetarily. For soon after the Constitution 
was ratified, in 1791 the 1st Bank of the United States, a privately 
owned and privately controlled central bank was put through Congress by 
Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton, modeled on the private Bank of 
England. The gang around that bank were more dangerous than King George 
the 3rd; and the Hamilton people thereby insinuated into the New World 
forces representing the most evolved secular form that evil had attained 
in the Old World. Thanks a lot Hamilton!

Jefferson fought the bank, helping to bring it down and Burr killed 
Hamilton over public insults; but privately issued money had gained a 
foothold in America. It's still here, in control of our monetary system. 
It's the root cause of most of our social and economic problems. 
Whenever it caused crises in the past, our government had to come to the 
rescue. It's latest atrocity is the current monetary, banking and 
economic crisis, threatening to take the entire world economy down into 
depression, and destroy the lives of billions of people in the process.

It must end now. This crisis gives us our only opportunity to reform our 
monetary system and eliminate the private creation of money; to 
eliminate the privilege banks have to create our money supply when they 
extend loans.
The American Monetary Institute has published its research results in 
the book The Lost Science of Money (drawn from a study of over 800 
monetary books and sources). The first 23 chapters focus on the monetary 
case studies from Aristotle forward. Then Chapter 24 summarizes what 
those studies teach us and how that should be applied to solving today's 
dilemma. The American Monetary Act puts that plan into legislative form. 
See http://www.monetary.org <http://www.monetary.org/>

Each September (24th - 27th in 2009) we hold a monetary reform 
conference at Roosevelt University in Chicago where activists and 
advanced monetary researchers present talks and programs on monetary 
reform. There is a Discount ($295 instead of $395) for registrations 
mailed by July 15th. See the brochure now! 
http://www.monetary.org/2009conference.html

The American Monetary Act (attached) is legislation which fundamentally 
reforms the
private CREDIT/DEBT system now wrecking our nation, replacing it with a 
government MONEY system.

HOW: The Federal Reserve becomes incorporated into the U.S. Treasury. 
Banks no longer have the accounting privilege of creating our money 
supply. All their previously issued credit is converted into U.S. Money 
through an elegant and gentle accounting change, which has been 
described as brilliant by a former officer of the NY Fed. The banks are 
held accountable for this conversion. New money is then introduced by 
the government spending it into circulation for infrastructure, starting 
with the $2.2 trillion the engineers tell us is needed to properly 
maintain our infrastructure over the next 5 years. Infrastructure will 
include the necessary human infrastructure of health care and education.

Banks are encouraged to continue lending as profit making companies, but 
are no longer allowed to create our money supply by loan making activity.

Thus, The American Monetary Act nationalizes the money system, not the 
banking system. Banking is absolutely not a proper function of 
government, but providing the nation?s money supply is a key function of 
government. No one else can do it properly. Talk of nationalizing the 
banking business may really act like a poison pill to block real reform.

Despite prejudice against government, most people are surprised to learn 
that history shows government has a far superior record in controlling 
the money system than private controllers have. And yes that includes 
the continental currency, the Greenbacks and even the German 
Hyperinflation; which by the way took place under a completely 
privatized German central bank!

WHO: The American Monetary Institute, organized in 1996 as a publicly 
supported charitable trust, is the leading U.S. think tank on monetary 
history, theory and reform.

WHY: Because the crisis our present malformed banking and money system 
has caused is crying out for reform, not merely regulation. It has 
visibly brought the world economy to its knees; it has concentrated 
wealth to unacceptable levels, and it now places the future development 
of humanity at risk.

WHY? Considering the nature of modern weapons systems, leaving the same 
people and families in power risks the survival of the species. Some of 
them watching the past 16 years, must realize that. Lets hope they do 
the right thing. But lets not depend on it!

I mentioned that the French played a key part at the start of our 
nation. Today their gift to us of the Statue of Liberty still plays a 
crucial role for us and for humanity. The liberty she symbolizes does 
not exist in our nation. It never really has. The Statue has always been 
a symbol encouraging us towards the possible. I love that statue and 
when I stayed in New York, I often anchored my motor boat under it, and 
some of my fondest memories are of those times as the sun set over New 
Jersey, still reflecting off the Twin Towers; or anchored under the 
spectacular fireworks display there during the bicentennial celebration.

Friends, we are all under pressure in this environment. Stress will 
cause illness unless you act. Action will destroy fear! Good action 
towards truth will change the world. Join with us to understand the 
nature of our money system, how it should be structured and how we 
citizens can effect such change. Thats what our country's founders would 
be doing now if they were of our time. Thats what men and women of good 
will, can be doing now!
Well thats it for now. Get in touch! Stay in Touch! Read the book. Come 
to the conference!
HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY!!
Stephen Zarlenga
AMI
http://www.monetary.org (free monetary CDs can be ordered there)


From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com  Mon Jul  6 18:52:35 2009
From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry)
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:52:35 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Farm Wars: spirit vs letter of the law
Message-ID: <4A528033.50904@thetwofacesofmoney.com>

Excerpted from article by Barbara Peterson online:

The REAL Issue of so-called food safety laws:

There is a big difference between the spirit and the letter of the law. 
The key to analyzing the effects of any type of legislation that 
ultimately results in setting rules and regulations in motion through a 
set of laws is in understanding the difference between the spirit and 
letter of the law, and how this concept is applied towards enforcement 
of any particular law. . .

. . .If food safety is the real issue, why word the bills so that if the 
letter of the law is enforced, family farmers are crushed and trail 
riders become criminals at the stroke of a pen for picking berries? What 
would the real outcome be if these bills pass?

Some of the more obvious results would be massive fees and fines, an 
expensive and cumbersome tracking system for not only veggies and fruit, 
but for animals as well, and the elimination of the family farm. Instead 
of being able to go out to the backyard and pick a salad for dinner, we 
will be forced to rely on Monsanto, et. al. for every bite that we take 
or face penalties and prosecution. This is total control of the food 
supply, and as Henry Kissinger has stated: ?Control oil and you control 
nations; control food and you control the people.?

END EXCERPT:

Full article with links to others on the topic: http://farmwars.info/?p=1207


From aroyboy44 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  7 21:10:18 2009
From: aroyboy44 at hotmail.com (andrew ritter)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 01:10:18 +0000
Subject: [CitizensTruth] The 9/11 Report:  A Bipartisan Musical Fantasia
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LA RED MUSIC THEATRE in Highland Park is doing a production called:  

The 9/11 Report:
A Bipartisan Musical Fantasia

http://www.laredmusictheatre.org/9.11.html


I have no clue what their angle is but I'm going to check it out at some point...

we should make it a field trip  :)  

peace,

AR










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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  7 22:16:44 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:16:44 -0700
Subject: [CitizensTruth] The 9/11 Report: A Bipartisan Musical Fantasia
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  Interesting.  It's 7/23--26 and 7/31--8/2.   $25 tickets.  

The Karger Center Theatre
1850 Green Bay Road
Highland Park, IL

    They had a discussion group at Borders on July 6.

http://www.triblocal.com/Highland_Park_-_Highwood/List_View/view.html?type=stories&action=detail&sub_id=71730

    Here's concept:

     On September 4, 2001, Richard Clarke met with Condoleeza Rice to discuss the unimaginable.
           Seven days later it came true.
           Three
years later, a bipartisan commission assembled their findings in an
attempt to understand our nation's greatest tragedy. It created The
9/11 Report.    
      Join us on a
musical fantasia that combines elements of song, dance, and theatre to
explore the whos, whats, wheres, whens, whys and hows of that infamous
day and the failures of preparation, cooperation, and imagination in
the preceding years that allowed it to happen. By learning the lessons
of our past, we hope to build a safer tomorrow in which the
unimaginable never happens again.

   The concept comes from JESSICA REDISH, who has ties with Northwestern.  Maybe someone should invite Dr. Bazant?  


http://www.laredmusictheatre.org/9.11.html


    This could be a good leafletting event.  You never know whose cousin, aunt, or daughter-in-law will walk into something like this.  I showed autopsy reports on Bagram detainees to some college students and two days later the info turned up in a NYT column.

    I'd suggest that somebody go the first night, 7/23, to see what the slant is and see how the audience reacts, and that then a leaflet campaign be prepared for the other nights luring the curious in with the first responders' health issues and the widows' 273 unanswered questions.  Griffin's "The 571-Page Lie" makes a good handout.  I have it formatted as a folded tabloid in Open Office if anybody wants the file.  I suppose I could recast it in Microsoft Word if need be--either in folded tabloid or for 8-1/2X11 printing on two double-sided sheets.

    I'd help directly if I could but I'm in California.

   Brian




From: aroyboy44 at hotmail.com
To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 01:10:18 +0000
Subject: [CitizensTruth] The 9/11 Report:  A Bipartisan Musical Fantasia









LA RED MUSIC THEATRE in Highland Park is doing a production called:  

The 9/11 Report:
A Bipartisan Musical Fantasia

http://www.laredmusictheatre.org/9.11.html


I have no clue what their angle is but I'm going to check it out at some point...

we should make it a field trip  :)  

peace,

AR










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From richardfobes at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 11 21:49:04 2009
From: richardfobes at hotmail.com (Richard Fobes)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:49:04 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Two days of US drone attacks kill nearly 80 in
	Pakistan
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July 10 2009

Two days of US drone attacks kill nearly 80 in Pakistan 



By Barry Grey

WSWS



The United States fired multiple missiles from pilotless drones on Wednesday in two separate attacks on insurgents in Pakistan's South Waziristan district, killing up to 60 people. The attacks followed a US missile strike in South Waziristan on Tuesday that reportedly killed 16 people. 



The missile strikes mark a further escalation of US drone attacks, bringing the total since last August to 45. The stepped-up US military violence in Pakistan coincides with an ongoing offensive by the Pakistani military in the Swat Valley and preparations to launch an offensive in South Waziristan, a mountainous region in the northwest of the country bordering Afghanistan.



At the same time, the Obama administration has launched a major ground offensive in Afghanistan's southern Helmand Province. Taken as a whole, the intensification of US military actions in the two countries, together with Pakistani air and ground operations launched at the insistence of Washington, constitute a massive military escalation aimed at drowning the insurgencies in blood and terrorizing the civilian populations on both sides of the border.



The Pakistani offensive in the Swat Valley has turned 2 million residents of the region into internal refugees. There are no reliable figures on the number of dead and wounded.



US drone attacks have increasingly been aimed at Pakistani militants led by Baitulluh Mehsud, who are based in South Waziristan. Mehsud is considered by the regime in Islamabad to be its most dangerous internal enemy. He is not, however, involved in cross-border attacks on US and NATO forces in Afghanistan, the original justification for CIA-launched drone strikes on Pakistan's tribal regions.



The first drone attack on Wednesday took place before dawn. Six missiles slammed into what Pakistani officials say is a militant training camp in the Karwan Manza area of South Waziristan, close to the Afghan border. Ten people, described as militants, were reportedly killed in the attack.



Hours later, 12 miles to the east, missiles hit a convoy said to be carrying Taliban militants, killing between 35 and 50 people.



On Tuesday, a US drone attack pulverized a compound in another part of South Waziristan., killing up to 16 people.



On June 23, a US drone attack on a funeral procession in South Waziristan killed as many as 80 people and wounded many more. That was the most deadly US attack in Pakistan to date.



The mourners had gathered for the funeral of seven victims of another US drone attack that had taken place earlier the same day. US media accounts described the target as a "Taliban training center in South Waziristan." According to local sources, those killed and wounded in the attack were mostly civilians.



Source: WSWS.org 





 

      

    
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From dimension04 at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul 13 14:56:17 2009
From: dimension04 at sbcglobal.net (Connie Smith)
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:56:17 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Flight 77 -- do the math
Message-ID: <CC4BF6256FAA4F6DA8A5416D7F165E4E@InspironConnie>







This math demonstrates 77 would have disintegrated before any impact.



http://www.twf.org/News/Y2009/0702-Flight77.html


Also, there was a momentous pilots and researchers conference on the Pentagon impossibility in Arlington VA over the weekend; I'm waiting to hear from a friend who was there.

Here's a terrific pre-conference write-up:

http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/132013171/researchers-release-9-11-pentagon-attack-report

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From Walterb306 at cs.com  Tue Jul 14 10:47:11 2009
From: Walterb306 at cs.com (Walterb306 at cs.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:47:11 EDT
Subject: [CitizensTruth] ARTICLE- CIGNA exec - Michael Moore was right
Message-ID: <bb9.49a8292b.378df46f@cs.com>

All,

FYI,

Beverley

Former CIGNA executive says Michael Moore was right all along [UPDATE] 
by citisven 
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/11/752306/-Former-CIGNA-executive-s
ays-Michael-Moore-was-right-all-along-

Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 12:18:24 AM PDT
Ok, so haven't seen anyone write about this, and while we right here all 
know that the insurance companies literally go over dead bodies in their 
profiteering ways, in an interview with Bill Moyers that aired tonight on PBS , 
Wendell Potter, former Head of Corporate Communications at CIGNA, admits that 
Michael Moore nailed it on the head in his movie, Sicko . It's a 30 minute 
interview that comes close to a confessional of the health insurance 
industry's enslavement to Wall Street, and I really really hope everybody in this 
country gets to see this. It's the only thing you'll ever need to show if 
anyone ever questions the public option or rambles on about the dangers of 
government bureaucrats. IT'S THE ONLY TV YOU'LL EVER NEED TO WATCH TO KNOW THAT 
WE'VE BEEN COLLECTIVELY GETTING JACKED.
It starts with Potter, the high paid head of public relations for CIGNA 
getting out of his corporate office and taking a trip to his native Tennessee:
Potter attended a "health care expedition," a makeshift health clinic set 
up at a fairgrounds, and he tells Bill Moyers, "It was absolutely stunning. 
When I walked through the fairground gates, I saw hundreds of people lined 
up, in the rain. It was raining that day. Lined up, waiting to get care, in 
animal stalls. Animal stalls. 
He talks about how a lot of these executives, including himself, are so 
removed from the real world, that the insured are no more than just numbers.
And that was my problem. I had been in the industry and I'd risen up in the 
ranks. And I had a great job. And I had a terrific office in a high-rise 
building in Philadelphia. I was insulated. I didn't really see what was going 
on. I saw the data. I knew that 47 million people were uninsured, but I 
didn't put faces with that number. 
Then he says that everything about Canada and England that was reported in 
Michael Moore's Sicko was true and that they made a costly and concerted 
effort to derail the message of the movie. 
We shouldn't fear government involvement in our health care system. There 
is an appropriate role for government, and it's been proven in the countries 
that were in that movie. 
Potter then goes on in a very calm manner to indict the entire insurance 
industry for putting profit before people. What's most revealing is that 
ultimately all roads lead back to Wall Street. If an insurance company actually 
wanted to do good and take care of people they would pretty much go under and 
be swallowed up, because it's all just about the profit margins. In one 
particularly galling segment, he cites this example.
If one company's medical loss ratio was 77.9 percent, for example, in one 
quarter, and the next quarter, it was 78.2 percent. It seems like a small 
movement. But investors will think that's ridiculous. And it's horrible. 
Medical loss ratio, of course, being the Orwellian term for the actual 
HEALTH CARE, meaning the ultimate goal is to have as little percent of each 
dollar spent go to the treatment of the insured.
They then talk about the revolving door between insurance lobbyists and 
Washington, and how a lot of these politicians who defend the private 
insurances are bought and paid for and simply parrot talking points that the PR 
departments in those companies come up with. I'm telling you, the Godfather has 
nothing on this plot.
I recommend everyone go and watch this video 
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/watch2.html  and then forward it to as many people as you can.
======
Thanks for the rec list, nice to be initiated while howlin' at the moon. I 
really hope that this interview gets watched widely, it's a pivotal and even 
transcendent piece of journalism, the ultimate "The Emperor has no Clothes" 
moment.
While I have my five minutes under the almost full moon, my more eloquent 
moments often happen at A World of Words.
=======
Update: people in the comments were suggesting that this would be a great 
time to rewatch Sicko, especially since Wendell Potter has come out to say 
it's the ultimate education tool. Thanks to teh google it can be imbibed in 
its full length right here.
The other idea was to ask Mike to have public viewing parties. I don't know 
how that would work, but I'm thinking of the big screens they set up in 
European downtowns for big soccer games. Now THAT would be cool. And if anyone 
could pull that off it would be Mike. mike at michaelmoore.com
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From dimension04 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 14 17:14:18 2009
From: dimension04 at sbcglobal.net (Connie Smith)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:14:18 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] LOOK AT WHAT THIS 9/11 TRUTHER DID!
Message-ID: <A62D49E0B7424DF3A20007E69DF7A3AE@InspironConnie>



Under U.S. law, it's stated that officials or citizens who know of Treason 
are obligated/required to report it, and the process to do so is outlined.

So, that's exactly what this guy in Van Nuys CA did!  (I used to live nearby 
in Sherman Oaks, and can just SEE the places he's talking about.)

(The account below of all he did to make an official, on-the-record Treason 
report on the 9/11 cover-up reminds me of when I was 10 years old and a fan 
of fictional girl detective Nancy Drew. I got on my bike and went around to 
all the officials in town and the newspaper and reported to them my theory 
on what happened to a local missing millionaire.  Do I still have that kind 
of innocent courage??)

Anyway, here's an account of, and the formula for, officially reporting 
Treason, which the law says those who know of it are required to do!
Connie


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan M Nalven" <dmn at nalven.org>
To: <911courage at two.pairlist.net>; <westchester911truth at two.pairlist.net>
Cc: <janice at 911truth.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:14 AM
Subject: [Westchester911truth] [Fwd: [bloggerbrigade] Treason reported to 
Judge in Van Nuys and Nano-thermite Peer-Reviewed Paper all on record in 
open court.]


> -------------------------- Original Message --------------------------
> Subject: [bloggerbrigade] Treason reported to Judge in Van Nuys and
> Nano-thermite Peer-Reviewed Paper all on record in open court.
> From:    "Eric W. Anderson" <eric at BrightIdeaElectric.com>
> Date:    Mon, July 13, 2009 23:55
> To:      "bloggerbrigade" <bloggerbrigade at lists.riseup.net>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Brotherton
> To: 9-11-359-list-list at meetup.com
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 5:33 PM
> Subject: [9-11-359-list] Treason reported to Judge in Van Nuys and
> Nano-thermite Peer-Reviewed Paper all on record in open court.
>
>
> On Monday July 13, 2009 I Edward Alan Brotherton fulfilled the legal
> requirements of Title 18 Section 2382 of the United States Code by
> reporting treason to Judge Leland B Harris of Division 107 at the Van
> Nuys Criminal Court.
>
>
>
> Court Reporter's name is Pamela Bison
>
> 818-374-3115
>
> I can get a transcript of the record from the court reporter.
>
>
>
>
>
> Here is how it went down.
>
>
>
> First I spoke to Matt (last name unknown) who is now the Regional Chief of
> Staff of Congressman Brad Sherman about setting up a meeting to
> discuss what the next course of action should be with regards to
> investigating the attacks of 9-11 as well as the cover-up.  He told me
> to stop by either Monday or Tuesday between 10 and 2PM.  So I took him
> up on the offer.  Matt wasn't there so I spoke to another staff member
> who basically told me the same thing I've been hearing for the past 3
> years.  I handed her the information that Congressman Brad Sherman
> already has -- relating to the peer reviewed scientific paper on
> nano-thermite being found in the dust of the world trade center.
>
>
>
> I realized I wasn't going to get anywhere with them, so I decided I
> would look into the logistics of how to enforce the Treason and
> Misprision of Treason laws.

   I contacted the local Los Angeles County
> Sheriffs Department and asked them how to enforce these laws and that
> I have evidence that shows a cover-up of the attacks of Sept.11.  They
> told me to contact the local police department.

    I drove to the Van Nuys
> police department and walked up the counter and told them that I
> have evidence that there is a cover-up of the investigation into the
> attacks of Sept. 11th.  They told me they couldn't do anything and to
> talk to the feds.

   So I walked across the street to what I think was
> the federal building but it turned out to be the courthouse.  I then
> decided that since theTreason statute requires anyone
> owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of Treason
> must report it to the President of the United States, a Judge of the
> United States, or to a Judge or Justice of any State.  Since I was in
> the courthouse I decided to fulfill my legal requirement and see if I
> can report Treason to a Judge.
>
>
>
> My first step was to figure out which courtroom to go to so I went to
> the clerk window and told them that I needed to see a Judge to fulfill
> the legal requirement laid out in Title 18 Section 2382.  She directed
> me to the DA office.  They directed me to any courtroom but
> recommended division 107.  I made my way to the 5th floor and walked
> into the courtroom.  I was the only one in there other than a lawyer,
> bailiff, court reporter, and the clerk.

   The baliff approached me and
> asked if he can help.  I then told him why I was there and that I
> needed to fulfill the legal requirements of Title 18 Section 2382 and
> that I needed to see the Judge so I can report an act of Treason.  He
> took my information (the same information I handed the congressman
> staff member) and handed it to the court clerk who approached me and
> asked what I was there for.  I told him, and he then took the
> information and walked into a back room where the judges chambers
> are.
>
>
>
> The judge walked out about 10 minutes later with the information in hand
> and looks at me.  First, he calls a case and handles it fairly quickly. 
> He then
> steps out for another 10 minutes or so.  He comes back looks at me again 
> and
> says "Sir?"  I stand up.  He nods to the court reporter.  She turns and
> begins to type away on her stenograph.  The judge asks me to state my
> name, so I did.  He then asks why I am there.  I told him that I have
> information that the attacks of September 11th are being covered up
> and as a consequence it is giving aid and comfort to our enemies, and
> so I am here to fulfill the legal requirement laid out in Section 2382
> of the title 18 of the United States Code.

    He then asked how I ended
> up in his courtroom.  I explained that the law requires me to report
> the Treason to a Judge.  He then stated that the law refers to a Judge
> of the United States and the was just a Judge of the State.  I then
> corrected him and referred him to the second page where it says "or a
> Judge or justice of any state."  He nods his head in agreement as he
> reads it.  He then stated that he hasn't had the time to review the
> information and asked if I can give him an idea of what it's about.  I
> was delighted.
>
>
>
> I explained that the information contains a peer-reviewed scientific
> paper showing evidence that a military-grade explosives known as
> nano-thermite was found in the dust of the World Trade Center and that
> this information is being covered up and continues to be covered up
> and is therefore giving aid and comfort to our enemies.  He asked how I
> came into this information and I explained that I have been involved
> in the 9-11 Truth movement for quite some time and a lot of people
> have been working very hard to get this information to the public and
> that I happen to be connected to a lot of these people.
>
>
>
> He then asked what I would like him to do with this information.  I
> explained whatever the law requires you to do.  I am simply here to
> fulfill the legal requirement as laid out in section 2382.  He asked
> for my driver's license, which they made a copy of and said they would
> like to get back to me after he has a chance to review the
> documentation.   He then read the drivers license information into the
> record and thanked me coming in.
>
>
>
> Overall this was an incredible experience.  The Judge was inquisitive,
> respectful, and seemed very sincere.  I'm not sure what will come out
> it but it was a great litmus test and shows how to get that evidence
> in the hands of justice.  I suggest doing this all over the country,
> not only giving them the peer-reviewed documentation on nano thermite
> but also all the other evidence surrounding the events of Sept. 11th.
> Definitely a good win today.
>
>
>
> Sincerely
>
>
> Ed Brotherton
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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From hal at drxyzzy.org  Wed Jul 15 20:26:15 2009
From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:26:15 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] voice of the Reptilian
Message-ID: <5811FDBB-6471-4C0B-BBFF-7DCBD53F2A4A@drxyzzy.org>

I'm not suggesting a literal reading of David Icke here. But listen to  
Glenn Beck in this Media Matters clip, especially starting around 2:40.

Beck "loses his mind", screams at caller: "Get off my phone you little  
pinhead!"
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200907150016

What does it suggest to you?

I hear the voice of a deeply abusive personality. The sound could be  
right out of a Stephen King story. I believe this lies beneath the  
most destructive parts of our culture today, the parts that endanger  
the long-term survival of humanity and many other species.

Derrick Jensen writes about the dark side to civilization in The  
Culture of Make Believe.
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From richardfobes at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 15 23:42:29 2009
From: richardfobes at hotmail.com (Richard Fobes)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:42:29 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] LOOK AT WHAT THIS 9/11 TRUTHER DID!
In-Reply-To: <A62D49E0B7424DF3A20007E69DF7A3AE@InspironConnie>
References: <A62D49E0B7424DF3A20007E69DF7A3AE@InspironConnie>
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Thank you for sending this out, Connie.  I'm impressed, and inspired.
I wish, even for a day, we all had this 'innocent courage' as you put it.  
Standing in front of a judge in a courthouse can be intimidating.  Especially with this type of material.  This is wonderful.  

-Rich




> From: dimension04 at sbcglobal.net
> To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:14:18 -0500
> Subject: [CitizensTruth] LOOK AT WHAT THIS 9/11 TRUTHER DID!
> 
> 
> 
> Under U.S. law, it's stated that officials or citizens who know of Treason 
> are obligated/required to report it, and the process to do so is outlined.
> 
> So, that's exactly what this guy in Van Nuys CA did!  (I used to live nearby 
> in Sherman Oaks, and can just SEE the places he's talking about.)
> 
> (The account below of all he did to make an official, on-the-record Treason 
> report on the 9/11 cover-up reminds me of when I was 10 years old and a fan 
> of fictional girl detective Nancy Drew. I got on my bike and went around to 
> all the officials in town and the newspaper and reported to them my theory 
> on what happened to a local missing millionaire.  Do I still have that kind 
> of innocent courage??)
> 
> Anyway, here's an account of, and the formula for, officially reporting 
> Treason, which the law says those who know of it are required to do!
> Connie
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan M Nalven" <dmn at nalven.org>
> To: <911courage at two.pairlist.net>; <westchester911truth at two.pairlist.net>
> Cc: <janice at 911truth.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:14 AM
> Subject: [Westchester911truth] [Fwd: [bloggerbrigade] Treason reported to 
> Judge in Van Nuys and Nano-thermite Peer-Reviewed Paper all on record in 
> open court.]
> 
> 
> > -------------------------- Original Message --------------------------
> > Subject: [bloggerbrigade] Treason reported to Judge in Van Nuys and
> > Nano-thermite Peer-Reviewed Paper all on record in open court.
> > From:    "Eric W. Anderson" <eric at BrightIdeaElectric.com>
> > Date:    Mon, July 13, 2009 23:55
> > To:      "bloggerbrigade" <bloggerbrigade at lists.riseup.net>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> 
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ed Brotherton
> > To: 9-11-359-list-list at meetup.com
> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 5:33 PM
> > Subject: [9-11-359-list] Treason reported to Judge in Van Nuys and
> > Nano-thermite Peer-Reviewed Paper all on record in open court.
> >
> >
> > On Monday July 13, 2009 I Edward Alan Brotherton fulfilled the legal
> > requirements of Title 18 Section 2382 of the United States Code by
> > reporting treason to Judge Leland B Harris of Division 107 at the Van
> > Nuys Criminal Court.
> >
> >
> >
> > Court Reporter's name is Pamela Bison
> >
> > 818-374-3115
> >
> > I can get a transcript of the record from the court reporter.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is how it went down.
> >
> >
> >
> > First I spoke to Matt (last name unknown) who is now the Regional Chief of
> > Staff of Congressman Brad Sherman about setting up a meeting to
> > discuss what the next course of action should be with regards to
> > investigating the attacks of 9-11 as well as the cover-up.  He told me
> > to stop by either Monday or Tuesday between 10 and 2PM.  So I took him
> > up on the offer.  Matt wasn't there so I spoke to another staff member
> > who basically told me the same thing I've been hearing for the past 3
> > years.  I handed her the information that Congressman Brad Sherman
> > already has -- relating to the peer reviewed scientific paper on
> > nano-thermite being found in the dust of the world trade center.
> >
> >
> >
> > I realized I wasn't going to get anywhere with them, so I decided I
> > would look into the logistics of how to enforce the Treason and
> > Misprision of Treason laws.
> 
>    I contacted the local Los Angeles County
> > Sheriffs Department and asked them how to enforce these laws and that
> > I have evidence that shows a cover-up of the attacks of Sept.11.  They
> > told me to contact the local police department.
> 
>     I drove to the Van Nuys
> > police department and walked up the counter and told them that I
> > have evidence that there is a cover-up of the investigation into the
> > attacks of Sept. 11th.  They told me they couldn't do anything and to
> > talk to the feds.
> 
>    So I walked across the street to what I think was
> > the federal building but it turned out to be the courthouse.  I then
> > decided that since theTreason statute requires anyone
> > owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of Treason
> > must report it to the President of the United States, a Judge of the
> > United States, or to a Judge or Justice of any State.  Since I was in
> > the courthouse I decided to fulfill my legal requirement and see if I
> > can report Treason to a Judge.
> >
> >
> >
> > My first step was to figure out which courtroom to go to so I went to
> > the clerk window and told them that I needed to see a Judge to fulfill
> > the legal requirement laid out in Title 18 Section 2382.  She directed
> > me to the DA office.  They directed me to any courtroom but
> > recommended division 107.  I made my way to the 5th floor and walked
> > into the courtroom.  I was the only one in there other than a lawyer,
> > bailiff, court reporter, and the clerk.
> 
>    The baliff approached me and
> > asked if he can help.  I then told him why I was there and that I
> > needed to fulfill the legal requirements of Title 18 Section 2382 and
> > that I needed to see the Judge so I can report an act of Treason.  He
> > took my information (the same information I handed the congressman
> > staff member) and handed it to the court clerk who approached me and
> > asked what I was there for.  I told him, and he then took the
> > information and walked into a back room where the judges chambers
> > are.
> >
> >
> >
> > The judge walked out about 10 minutes later with the information in hand
> > and looks at me.  First, he calls a case and handles it fairly quickly. 
> > He then
> > steps out for another 10 minutes or so.  He comes back looks at me again 
> > and
> > says "Sir?"  I stand up.  He nods to the court reporter.  She turns and
> > begins to type away on her stenograph.  The judge asks me to state my
> > name, so I did.  He then asks why I am there.  I told him that I have
> > information that the attacks of September 11th are being covered up
> > and as a consequence it is giving aid and comfort to our enemies, and
> > so I am here to fulfill the legal requirement laid out in Section 2382
> > of the title 18 of the United States Code.
> 
>     He then asked how I ended
> > up in his courtroom.  I explained that the law requires me to report
> > the Treason to a Judge.  He then stated that the law refers to a Judge
> > of the United States and the was just a Judge of the State.  I then
> > corrected him and referred him to the second page where it says "or a
> > Judge or justice of any state."  He nods his head in agreement as he
> > reads it.  He then stated that he hasn't had the time to review the
> > information and asked if I can give him an idea of what it's about.  I
> > was delighted.
> >
> >
> >
> > I explained that the information contains a peer-reviewed scientific
> > paper showing evidence that a military-grade explosives known as
> > nano-thermite was found in the dust of the World Trade Center and that
> > this information is being covered up and continues to be covered up
> > and is therefore giving aid and comfort to our enemies.  He asked how I
> > came into this information and I explained that I have been involved
> > in the 9-11 Truth movement for quite some time and a lot of people
> > have been working very hard to get this information to the public and
> > that I happen to be connected to a lot of these people.
> >
> >
> >
> > He then asked what I would like him to do with this information.  I
> > explained whatever the law requires you to do.  I am simply here to
> > fulfill the legal requirement as laid out in section 2382.  He asked
> > for my driver's license, which they made a copy of and said they would
> > like to get back to me after he has a chance to review the
> > documentation.   He then read the drivers license information into the
> > record and thanked me coming in.
> >
> >
> >
> > Overall this was an incredible experience.  The Judge was inquisitive,
> > respectful, and seemed very sincere.  I'm not sure what will come out
> > it but it was a great litmus test and shows how to get that evidence
> > in the hands of justice.  I suggest doing this all over the country,
> > not only giving them the peer-reviewed documentation on nano thermite
> > but also all the other evidence surrounding the events of Sept. 11th.
> > Definitely a good win today.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
> >
> > Ed Brotherton
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone
> > on this mailing list (9-11-359-list-list at meetup.com)
> > This message was sent by Ed Brotherton (edbrotherton at hotmail.com) from
> > WeAreChangeLA 9-11 Truth - Los Angeles Meetup - wacla.org.
> > To learn more about Ed Brotherton, visit his/her member profile
> > To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here
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From Walterb306 at cs.com  Fri Jul 17 14:46:36 2009
From: Walterb306 at cs.com (Walterb306 at cs.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:46:36 EDT
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Fwd: Iranian envoy: CIA involved in Neda's shooting?
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All,

FYI,

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From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com  Mon Jul 20 13:01:42 2009
From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:01:42 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] The Other Shoe Drop In The Foreclosure Crisis:
 Non-completed Forclosures haunt unaware homeowners and communities
Message-ID: <4A64A2F6.2000108@mailbag.com>

  *Foreclosures at Record High in First Half 2009 Despite Aid *
http://www.truthout.org/071609A?n 
<http://messenger.truthout.org/ss/link.php?M=33448&N=109&C=3de39b7f486da6123cdc0933336b67b4&L=884> 

Lynn Adler, Reuters: "U.S. home foreclosure activity galloped to a 
record in the first half of the year, overwhelming broad efforts to 
remedy failing loans while job losses escalated."

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/07/bank_walkaways_from_foreclosed.html


      Bank 'walkaways' from foreclosed homes are a growing, troubling trend


        Posted by Sandra Livingston/Plain Dealer Reporter
        <mailto:slivings at plaind.com> July 19, 2009 09:00AM



John Kuntz/The Plain Dealer

A pair of boarded up windows are overgrown with vines on a foreclosed 
home on the city's East Side. Banks are backing away from properties 
they have foreclosed on creating a new set of issues for neighborhoods.

Renetta Atterberry thought she had lost her East 102nd Street house. So 
she was shocked to learn in January -- five years after her mortgage 
company filed for foreclosure -- that it was still in her name.

Worse, the long-vacant rental home had been vandalized and she faced a 
raft of housing code violations. Since then, she has been saddled with 
debts of* *about $12,000 to pay for demolition and back taxes.

"I thought I had nothing else to do with that home," said Atterberry. "I 
was so embarrassed and humiliated by this."

Her mortgage company didn't buy the house and never took it to sheriff's 
sale to see if somebody else would, leaving Atterberry the legal owner, 
responsible for upkeep and taxes.

These so-called "bank walkaways" are another troubling development in 
the foreclosure crisis, particularly in cities like Cleveland with 
weaker housing markets, say housing advocates and government officials.

Lenders or mortgage companies decide they don't want homes they have 
already foreclosed on...

Full Story:
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/07/bank_walkaways_from_foreclosed.html

---------------------

 From Dan:

The above article is a Must Read item. You have a vastly incomplete 
picture of the damage being done by the foreclosure war on the Middle 
Class and municipal governments if you aren't aware of this. This issue 
screams out for a nation-wide organization to track and overcome it. 
These banks are willfully evicting people from their homes, then walking 
away from the half-completed foreclosure process without removing the 
prior homeowners' names from legal title. This leaves the prior 
homeowners, who thought they no longer had anything to do with these 
properties, liable for code violations and back property taxes, while 
leaving the homes rotting away in legal limbo. It has an horrific effect 
on communities.
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From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com  Mon Jul 20 18:25:05 2009
From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:25:05 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] The Other Shoe Drop In The Foreclosure Crisis:
 Non-completed Forclosures haunt unaware homeowners and communities
In-Reply-To: <4A64A2F6.2000108@mailbag.com>
References: <4A64A2F6.2000108@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <4A64EEC1.8010009@thetwofacesofmoney.com>

Well.....

guess what ? The crooks are back in business - reinventing themselves as 
"loan fixers."

This is an all out war on the middle class, but we don't want another 
federal agency to track this **** as the fallout from the Home Owners 
Loan Corporation of the 1930s clearly showed.

We need MONETARY REFORM, and decentralization of the banking system. 
Otherwise, the more things change the more they will stay the same!

geri p



Daniel Stafford wrote:
> *Foreclosures at Record High in First Half 2009 Despite Aid *
> http://www.truthout.org/071609A?n 
> <http://messenger.truthout.org/ss/link.php?M=33448&N=109&C=3de39b7f486da6123cdc0933336b67b4&L=884> 
>
> Lynn Adler, Reuters: "U.S. home foreclosure activity galloped to a 
> record in the first half of the year, overwhelming broad efforts to 
> remedy failing loans while job losses escalated."
>
> http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/07/bank_walkaways_from_foreclosed.html
>
>
>       Bank 'walkaways' from foreclosed homes are a growing, troubling
>       trend
>
>
>         Posted by Sandra Livingston/Plain Dealer Reporter
>         <mailto:slivings at plaind.com> July 19, 2009 09:00AM
>
>
>
> John Kuntz/The Plain Dealer
>
> A pair of boarded up windows are overgrown with vines on a foreclosed 
> home on the city's East Side. Banks are backing away from properties 
> they have foreclosed on creating a new set of issues for neighborhoods.
>
> Renetta Atterberry thought she had lost her East 102nd Street house. 
> So she was shocked to learn in January -- five years after her 
> mortgage company filed for foreclosure -- that it was still in her name.
>
> Worse, the long-vacant rental home had been vandalized and she faced a 
> raft of housing code violations. Since then, she has been saddled with 
> debts of* *about $12,000 to pay for demolition and back taxes.
>
> "I thought I had nothing else to do with that home," said Atterberry. 
> "I was so embarrassed and humiliated by this."
>
> Her mortgage company didn't buy the house and never took it to 
> sheriff's sale to see if somebody else would, leaving Atterberry the 
> legal owner, responsible for upkeep and taxes.
>
> These so-called "bank walkaways" are another troubling development in 
> the foreclosure crisis, particularly in cities like Cleveland with 
> weaker housing markets, say housing advocates and government officials.
>
> Lenders or mortgage companies decide they don't want homes they have 
> already foreclosed on...
>
> Full Story:
> http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/07/bank_walkaways_from_foreclosed.html
>
> ---------------------
>
> >From Dan:
>
> The above article is a Must Read item. You have a vastly incomplete 
> picture of the damage being done by the foreclosure war on the Middle 
> Class and municipal governments if you aren't aware of this. This 
> issue screams out for a nation-wide organization to track and overcome 
> it. These banks are willfully evicting people from their homes, then 
> walking away from the half-completed foreclosure process without 
> removing the prior homeowners' names from legal title. This leaves the 
> prior homeowners, who thought they no longer had anything to do with 
> these properties, liable for code violations and back property taxes, 
> while leaving the homes rotting away in legal limbo. It has an 
> horrific effect on communities.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> CitizensTruth mailing list
> CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth
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From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com  Mon Jul 20 18:26:18 2009
From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:26:18 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] The loan fixers
Message-ID: <4A64EF0A.3080300@thetwofacesofmoney.com>

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/20/business/20modify.html?_r=1&hp

From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com  Tue Jul 21 02:47:20 2009
From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:47:20 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] The Other Shoe Drop In The Foreclosure Crisis:
 Non-completed Forclosures haunt unaware homeowners and communities
In-Reply-To: <4A64EEC1.8010009@thetwofacesofmoney.com>
References: <4A64A2F6.2000108@mailbag.com>
	<4A64EEC1.8010009@thetwofacesofmoney.com>
Message-ID: <4A656478.5030204@mailbag.com>

Who said a federal agency to track it? I was thinking more along the 
lines of Code Pink or the ACLU.



Geri Perry wrote:
> Well.....
>
> guess what ? The crooks are back in business - reinventing themselves 
> as "loan fixers."
>
> This is an all out war on the middle class, but we don't want another 
> federal agency to track this **** as the fallout from the Home Owners 
> Loan Corporation of the 1930s clearly showed.
>
> We need MONETARY REFORM, and decentralization of the banking system. 
> Otherwise, the more things change the more they will stay the same!
>
> geri p
>
>
>
> Daniel Stafford wrote:
>> *Foreclosures at Record High in First Half 2009 Despite Aid *
>> http://www.truthout.org/071609A?n 
>> <http://messenger.truthout.org/ss/link.php?M=33448&N=109&C=3de39b7f486da6123cdc0933336b67b4&L=884> 
>>
>> Lynn Adler, Reuters: "U.S. home foreclosure activity galloped to a 
>> record in the first half of the year, overwhelming broad efforts to 
>> remedy failing loans while job losses escalated."
>>
>> http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/07/bank_walkaways_from_foreclosed.html 
>>
>>
>>
>>       Bank 'walkaways' from foreclosed homes are a growing, troubling
>>       trend
>>
>>
>>         Posted by Sandra Livingston/Plain Dealer Reporter
>>         <mailto:slivings at plaind.com> July 19, 2009 09:00AM
>>
>>
>>
>> John Kuntz/The Plain Dealer
>>
>> A pair of boarded up windows are overgrown with vines on a foreclosed 
>> home on the city's East Side. Banks are backing away from properties 
>> they have foreclosed on creating a new set of issues for neighborhoods.
>>
>> Renetta Atterberry thought she had lost her East 102nd Street house. 
>> So she was shocked to learn in January -- five years after her 
>> mortgage company filed for foreclosure -- that it was still in her name.
>>
>> Worse, the long-vacant rental home had been vandalized and she faced 
>> a raft of housing code violations. Since then, she has been saddled 
>> with debts of* *about $12,000 to pay for demolition and back taxes.
>>
>> "I thought I had nothing else to do with that home," said Atterberry. 
>> "I was so embarrassed and humiliated by this."
>>
>> Her mortgage company didn't buy the house and never took it to 
>> sheriff's sale to see if somebody else would, leaving Atterberry the 
>> legal owner, responsible for upkeep and taxes.
>>
>> These so-called "bank walkaways" are another troubling development in 
>> the foreclosure crisis, particularly in cities like Cleveland with 
>> weaker housing markets, say housing advocates and government officials.
>>
>> Lenders or mortgage companies decide they don't want homes they have 
>> already foreclosed on...
>>
>> Full Story:
>> http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/07/bank_walkaways_from_foreclosed.html 
>>
>>
>> ---------------------
>>
>> >From Dan:
>>
>> The above article is a Must Read item. You have a vastly incomplete 
>> picture of the damage being done by the foreclosure war on the Middle 
>> Class and municipal governments if you aren't aware of this. This 
>> issue screams out for a nation-wide organization to track and 
>> overcome it. These banks are willfully evicting people from their 
>> homes, then walking away from the half-completed foreclosure process 
>> without removing the prior homeowners' names from legal title. This 
>> leaves the prior homeowners, who thought they no longer had anything 
>> to do with these properties, liable for code violations and back 
>> property taxes, while leaving the homes rotting away in legal limbo. 
>> It has an horrific effect on communities.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> CitizensTruth mailing list
>> CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net
>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth
>> website: http://citizenstruth.info
>>   
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From dimension04 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 21 17:56:29 2009
From: dimension04 at sbcglobal.net (Connie Smith)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:56:29 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] details on 9/11 Ballot in NY, plus more
Message-ID: <2BA8BD38BDA7471A8693415E30A736D1@InspironConnie>

NEWS break from NYC CAN !!! Connie please read and forward




Important update from Sander Hicks and announcement of New York's September 11th events this year.

And below this message -- a heartfelt appeal from a  NY firefighter, plus the story of a politically conservative firefighter who has changed his mind about the official story and works daily now for 9/11 Truth.

 


    NYC CAN Tackle the 9/11 Question At the Ballot Box!
    Citizens Group Joins Victims Families to Ask for New Investigation
    by Sander Hicks


    New York -- On Wednesday, June 24, 2009, the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now ("NYC CAN") filed petitions for a referendum to create an independent investigation of 9/11/01.


    The group, led by Victims' Families, submitted 52,000 signatures to the City of New York. The new Commission would be independently funded, yet have legal authority from the City Council. If approved, New York City voters will be able to vote on this in the City-wide elections this November.


    "Now that we have delivered this petition to City Council, we have taken the first step towards a real investigation into the death of our family members and friends," said Brooklyn's Manny Badillo, who lost his uncle and mentor Thomas Joseph Sgroi on 9/11. As Badillo left the City Clerk's office, he told supporters, "Every family member, survivor and first responder should be encouraged--accountability will come."


    Badillo was joined by 9/11 Family Member Maureen Hunt, as well as First Responders Charlie Giles and Bill Gleason of the World Trade Center Rescuers Foundation.


    City Council now has until August 24 to approve the placement of the referendum on the November 3 ballot. NYC CAN is prepared to deliver an additional 30,000 signatures on August 24, if City Council does not approve putting the referendum on the ballot. Recent legal precedents show that NYC CAN faces an uphill battle in the NYC Courts.


    In front of the City Clerk's office, NYC CAN Executive Director Ted Walter said, "Now more than ever, we must all raise our voices and demand an investigation untainted by partisan politics. We want an investigation interested only in facts and accountability."


    Without endorsing any specific explanation for what did happen on 9/11, NYC CAN simply asks for a new, unprejudiced investigation. Critics of the 9/11 Commission point out conflicts of interest and possible manipulation by the Bush/Cheney White House. 

    As the New York Times' Philip Shenon (author of The Commission) pointed out last year, former Bush National Security advisor Phil Zelikow ran the "independent" 9/11 Commission. "Executive Director" Zelikow ignored calls from Victims' Family members to step down. 

    Zelikow drafted the 9/11 Commission Report which chose not to "assign individual blame" (accountability) for the intelligence failures on 9/11. The Report claimed to be unable to investigate who financed the attacks, and concluded that terrorist financing was of "little practical significance."


    In 2006, a Zogby poll showed that 66% of New Yorkers want a new investigation. Will the NYC courts and electoral system allow voters to vote on it in November? On July 20, NYC CAN issued a call for supporters to contact their City Council representatives, and urge support.


    First responder Charlie Giles suffered severe health damage from working on the "pile" at Ground Zero. At NYC CAN's filing of the petition, he asked, " Why do we still go untreated? Why do the families still call out for justice?"
    For More Information:
    The New York City Coalition for Accountability Now
    http://www.nyccan.org/


    Every family member, first responder, and survivor can sign a Statement of Support on http://www.NYCCAN.ORG./
    Sander Hicks
    Canvass Director
    NYC Coalition for Accountability Now
    347 446 4461 cell
                347 627 4705 office
    http://nyccan.org
    vote for 9/11 answers!


    Coming up:  "Real Change and Transparency" -- a concert and conference
    to create real US government transparency, in economics and intelligence
    9/11/09 - 9/13/09
    St. Marks-in-The Bowery, E. 10th and 2nd Ave, NYC
        http://changeandtransparency.blogspot.com/
- - -

>From a firefighter:
Fellow Firefighters, A great tragedy befell our community on September 11, 2001, an unprecedented 343 deaths in the line of duty. As horrible as that toll is, if there were a rational explanation for it, we could accept it and mourn. We all understood the risk we accepted when we took the oath of office, that chance might cut short our lives when we placed ourselves in harm's way in the public's service. This is what we are paid for and it is our honor. 

However, in short, the official explanation of the events of that day are not only insufficient, they are fantastic and cannot bear rational examination. We are asked to believe that on that day three structural steel buildings, which have never before in history collapsed because of fire, fell neatly into their basements at the speed of gravity, their concrete reduced to dust. 

We are asked to believe that jet fuel (kerosene) can melt steel. We are asked to believe that the most sophisticated air defense system in the world, that responded to sixty-eight emergencies in the year prior to 9-11 in less than twenty minutes allowed aircraft to wander about for up to an hour and a half. 

We are asked to believe that the steel and titanium components of an aircraft that supposedly hit the Pentagon "evaporated". There is much, much more if anyone cares to look into it. 

Trade Tower #7 by itself is the "smoking gun". Not hit by an aircraft, with only a few relatively small fires, it came down in a classic crimp and implosion, going straight into its basement, something only very precise demolition can accomplish, which takes days if not weeks to prepare. The 9-11 Commission actually stated the they DIDN'T KNOW WHY IT COLLAPSED AND LEFT IT AT THAT. 

Brothers, I know that the implications of the above are hard, almost unthinkable, but the official explanation is utter nonsense, and three hundred and forty three murdered brothers are crying out for justice. Demand a genuine investigation into the events of September 11! 
-Anton Vodvarka, Lt. FDNY (ret)

Lt. Vodvarka served on FDNY Ladder Co 26, Rescue Co. 3, Rescue Co. 1, Engine Co. 92, Ladder 82 and Ladder 101. He was awarded the Merit Class 1 award, the Prentice Medal.

- - -

Here is the personal story of a firefighter and political conservative:  Why he changed his mind and is now working night and day for 9/11 Truth.  

Send this to your skeptical friends and relatives!

http://firefightersfor911truth.org/?p=300








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From aroyboy44 at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 22 01:12:30 2009
From: aroyboy44 at hotmail.com (andrew ritter)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:12:30 +0000
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Legal Immunity Set For Swine Flu Makers
Message-ID: <BAY138-W11F8BFD14F951EB69B4EFCBE1B0@phx.gbl>



msnbc
Legal immunity set for swine flu vaccine makersLessons of 1976 outbreak prompt early action to warn off lawsuitsATLANTA - The last time the government embarked on a major vaccine
campaign against a new swine flu, thousands filed claims contending
they suffered side effects from the shots. This time, the government
has already taken steps to head that off.

more here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31971355/ns/health-swine_flu/



Global Research.ca

Now legal immunity for swine flu vaccine makers.




by  F. William  Engdahl

The US
Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, has just
signed a decree granting vaccine makers total legal immunity from any
lawsuits that result from any new ?Swine Flu? vaccine. Moreover, the $7
billion US Government fast-track program to rush vaccines onto the
market in time for the Autumn flu season is being done without even
normal safety testing.


more here:

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14487







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From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com  Fri Jul 24 15:12:34 2009
From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:12:34 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] YOU'RE INVITED [Fwd: Free AMI Monetary Seminar,
	on July 30th]
Message-ID: <4A6A07A2.5050908@thetwofacesofmoney.com>

YOU'RE INVITED!!

WHAT: AMERICAN MONETARY INSTITUTE MEETING
WHEN: THURSDAY JULY 30, 6:30 TO 8:45PM
WHERE: LOGAN SQUARE LIBRARY, COMMUNITY ROOM 3030 W. FULLERTON (AT 
MILWAUKEE AVE) CHICAGO
WHY: DISCUSSION OF HOW THE PROPOSED MONETARY REFORM ACT SOLVES THE 
CURRENT CRISIS
RSVP: STEPHEN ZARLENGA,      *Call 224-805 2200 or e-mail ami at taconic.net*


-------- Original Message --------

Dear Friends
Clearly America is not merely adrift, but is rapidly descending into 
unemployment that will characterize the crisis more as a depression than 
a recession. When it comes to the economy, its as though we are 
leaderless. Even worse, President Obama has abandoned our people to the 
likes of Summers and Geithner; who essentially represent the characters 
who created the crisis, rather than our nation or its people!

How did this happen? What can you and I do? Is there any way to protect 
our families and our nation?
The answer is YES! Come and hear about it. See http://www.monetary.org

The American Monetary Institute, the nation's leading Think Tank on 
monetary questions, established in 1996 for the independent study of 
monetary history, theory and reform, is happy to announce a free 
Monetary Seminar in Chicago in just 3 weeks:


    Thursday, July 30; 6:30pm - 8:45pm

in the community room of the

*Logan Square** Public Library*

at 3030 W. Fullerton Ave. (at Milwaukee Ave.),

Bucktown, Chicago, IL 60647

(reservations appreciated by email or at 224-805-2200,
so that light refreshments can be organized)

We'll discuss and hand out copies of the
American Monetary Act,
Explain how it solves the current crisis and answer questions about it.
We'll propose actions you can take to better inform our local political 
leadership on the subject and what they should be doing
to help stop this severe recession
from turning into a severe depression!
We are not powerless in this matter.

If you live in Chicago, please print the attached Seminar announcement 
and put it up on local bulletin boards.

Looking forward to seeing you, Please bring friends!
Stephen Zarlenga
Ami

*Why is Our*

*Money System **Broken Again? *

*Why doesn?t it work for America?*

                                     _FREE_ MONETARY SEMINAR!

*L**earn* more about money in 2 hours than */some/* economists learn in 
a lifetime! 

*L**earn* how America?s monetary power has been usurped and privatized 
by false theories

     - often leading to war!

*L**earn* how a three-step program restores a just monetary system 
promoting general welfare instead of corrupt private agendas!
 

*L**earn* how the facts demonstrate that governmental control of money 
has a far superior record than private control!

*L**earn* how our American society can create money for infrastructure 
(bridges, schools, health care, libraries, etc.) without inflation! 


    Thursday, July 30; 6:30pm - 8:45pm

in community room of

*Logan Square** Public Library*

at 3030 W. Fullerton Ave. (at Milwaukee Ave.),

Bucktown, IL 60647

_Reservations appreciated_ so that light refreshments can be arranged - 
Informal Dress - All are welcome

*Call 224-805 2200 or e-mail ami at taconic.net*


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From hal at drxyzzy.org  Sun Jul 26 11:49:10 2009
From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:49:10 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Revealed: the secret evidence of global warming
	Bush tried to hide
Message-ID: <89393F84-2CCE-420F-B2DC-AF492C31D51D@drxyzzy.org>

The whole story is appalling, of course. Suppressing dramatic evidence  
of global warming and curtailing the program to collect more data. But  
one statement below caught my attention.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/26/climate-change-obama-administration

In February, a Nasa satellite carrying instruments to produce the  
first map of the Earth's carbon emissions crashed near Antarctica only  
three minutes after lift-off.
and...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31967900/ns/technology_and_science-space/

NASA declined to release the full accident report, citing sensitive  
and proprietary information.



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From richardfobes at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 27 00:32:33 2009
From: richardfobes at hotmail.com (Richard Fobes)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:32:33 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] General Question
Message-ID: <BAY128-W20B41C37728C6D97BBCA98D5140@phx.gbl>


Does anyone have a comprehensive email/fax list of media contacts for press releases in Chicago?  

If so, would you be so kind as to send it to me?

Thanks.

Rich 
richardfobes at hotmail.com

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From richardfobes at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 27 12:57:53 2009
From: richardfobes at hotmail.com (Richard Fobes)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:57:53 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] NYC CAN Petition of 70,
	000 signatures DENIED by NYC Clerk!
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Please read.  This is important.

 


 


Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:11:06 -0400
To: richardfobes at hotmail.com
From: info at nyccan.org
Subject: An Urgent Call to Action - NYC CAN Going to Court













 
A CALL TO ACTION ? FORWARD WIDELY


www.NYCCAN.org 

 

July 27, 2009

9/11 FAMILIES, FIRST RESPONDERS AND SURVIVORS TO TAKE NEW YORK CITY TO COURT OVER NYC CAN PETITION

SEVENTY THOUSAND New Yorkers signed the NYC CAN petition, raising their voices in support of NYC CAN?s demand for accountability. They have chosen to place the decision to create a new 9/11 investigation ? a REAL 9/11 investigation ? exactly where it belongs: before the voters of New York City this November. The voices of SEVENTY THOUSAND Americans who believe in democracy and believe that government exists to serve the people ? and not the other way around ? have been GAGGED by ONE so-called ?PUBLIC SERVANT? ? The New York City Clerk ? who denied the petition and the voice of the people.

Welcome to America. Democracy denied.

Did you REALLY expect those in halls of power to honor the WILL OF THE PEOPLE? Did you expect this demand for accountability to go uncontested by those who have forgotten the very meaning of the word? Perhaps this obstruction of democracy would go unchallenged in THEIR America. Not in OUR America.

9/11 family members, first responders and survivors expected nothing less than business as usual and ARE NOT HAVING IT. They are preparing to take the City of New York to court to challenge the wrongful denial of our right to decide on the creation of a new 9/11 investigation.

Friends, your determination and generosity have brought us to this crucial moment. TRUTH IS AT THE CROSSROADS, DEMOCRACY UNDER FIRE AND THE DEFINING MOMENT IN THE QUEST FOR ACCOUNTABILITY IS UPON US. This is YOUR movement and nothing may bring you closer to attaining truth than NYC CAN. Stand in the light and demand ANSWERS, not in the shadows of those who would deny you such answers.

THE BIG NEWS: the most experienced election lawyer in New York City stands ready to represent the 9/11 families, first responders and survivors in court in an HISTORIC FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY AND TRUTH. BUT WE DESPERATELY NEED YOUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. This is your chance ? your ONE chance ? to stand with the 9/11 families, first responders and survivors, and demand accountability. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE WORKED FOR, AND WHAT WE CAN ACHIEVE IF WE STAND TOGETHER NOW.

Donate over $25 and we?ll mail you a free NYC CAN button. Donate over $50 and you will receive a free NYC CAN button and a well-made NYC CAN t-shirt.

ACT RIGHT NOW. Go to ? http://nyccan.org/donate.php ? and donate whatever you can to bring the quest for answers to the biggest stage it has ever had: THE NEW YORK CITY BALLOT.  


www.NYCCAN.org 





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From richardfobes at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 28 01:13:05 2009
From: richardfobes at hotmail.com (Richard Fobes)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:13:05 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Dr. Bob Bowman in Chicago, Saturday, August 1st, 5pm,
 2746 N. Magnolia
Message-ID: <BAY128-W601E0FAFE0BAA65789520D5150@phx.gbl>


You are cordially invited to this upcoming speaker event featuring Dr. Bob Bowman.  
The LA Times labeled him "the best public speaker in the country."  













Dr. Robert M. Bowman is a
winner of the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President?s Medal of Veterans
for Peace, retired Lt. Col. USAF who flew 101 combat missions in the Vietnam
war, and a former director of the Star Wars missile defense program under the Ford
and Carter administrations.  Dr.
Bowman is currently touring the United States on his ?Take Back America!?
tour.  He speaks on the current
state of US foreign policy, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, 9/11,
corporatism, and health care.


What: Dr. Bob Bowman
2009
Patriot Tour

            Dr.
Bowman challenges us to ?Take Back America? for the people.  He explains why we need a government
that:


                                    (1)
Follows the Constitution

                                    (2)
Honors the Truth, and

                                    (3)
Serves the People.


            Think
what a difference that would make! 
No more imperial presidency. 
No nuclear attack on Iran. 
No more undeclared wars of aggression.  No more spying on the American people.  No more jailing of dissidents.  No more corporations importing and
exploiting millions of illegal immigrants to drive down wages.  No more exporting of jobs.  No more NAFTA.  No more North American Union.  No more government lies, false-flag
attacks, and cover-ups.  No more
corporate welfare.  No more health
plans written by insurance companies and pharmaceutical manufacturers.  No more energy policies written by
Exxon and Enron.  No more trillions
in debt.  No more torture.  Most importantly, no more
using our sons and daughters to kill Arabs for the oil companies.  Let?s ?Take Back America!!?
When and Where:






 Saturday, August 1st, 5pm


UNITED BETHLEHEM CHURCH OF CHRIST

2746 N. Magnolia

Chicago, IL 60614

Call Rich for more info:  630.362.5053Suggested Donation $10 to cover travel costs













For more details
about Dr. Bowman, please visit www.thepatriots.us.









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From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com  Tue Jul 28 16:56:24 2009
From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:56:24 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Vaccine induced holocaust?
Message-ID: <4A6F65F8.50109@thetwofacesofmoney.com>

Hi all, 

Just wanted to tell you that I reworked my biological terrain page. Please do read it, since it has to do with the problems with vaccines uncovered by Bechamp in the mid-1800s. Also check the first 3 links in the paragraph starting with "Thumbnail sketch of basic facts about vaccines": http://thehealthadvantage.com/biologicalterrain.html

In addition, a good friend just sent me a link to a webinar which I hope - which I BEG - you all to listen to ASAP. 

PLEASE, Do NOT skip this webinar hosted by Chicago MD Mayer Eisenstein: http://homefirst.com/ The link at bottom of this page takes you directly to the registration page. I broke my own rule about registering - and am glad I did. Dr. Tenpenny is a credible and tempered speaker, even while she reveals some disconcerting details about what is going on behind the scenes. 

Tenpenny's "action ideas" go WAY beyond petitioning the Feds and takes us to where WE the people should be - creating resistance at the LOCAL level. Scroll down page to "What Can I Do?": 
http://drtenpenny.com/the_truth_about_the_flu_Shot.aspx

Notice that Tenpenny has printable flyers and pamphlets available at bottom of that page, which she says she prints out herself to give to local "persons of influence" and those who might be "first responders" when she is out and about.

Here is another good article of interest by Chicago Osteopathic physician Mercola:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/07/28/What-are-the-Dangers-of-Mandatory-Swine-Flu-Vaccination.aspx

And here is the first of an illuminating two part excerpt from a 60 Minutes program concerning the fallout from the so-called 1976 swine flu pandemic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lcJt4jX1Vo

And this graphic clip about what happened to a vaccinated U.S. marine, whose vaccine very well may have contained squalene which Tenpenny discusses briefly:  http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/661.html

-------- Original Message --------

Mp3 attached of the Swine Flu and Global Government Power Grab webinar 
with Dr Sherri Tenpenny

Or Click here to try and replay yesterday?s webinar:

https://www2.gotomeeting.com/join/984125498/106924808

From Walterb306 at cs.com  Thu Jul 30 11:41:54 2009
From: Walterb306 at cs.com (Walterb306 at cs.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:41:54 EDT
Subject: [CitizensTruth] ARTICLES-Swine flu and preparations
Message-ID: <cb6.5456ac73.37a31942@cs.com>

All,

FYI.

Beverley


News Updates from Citizens For Legitimate Government 29?Jul 2009 
http://www.legitgov.org/ All items are here: http://www.legitgov.org/#breaking_news 
Military Poised to Help FEMA Battle Swine Flu Outbreak --
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/29/military-poised-help-fema-battle-
swine-flu-outbreak/

U.S. commander for Northern Command asked Defense Secretary to sign 
executive order for military to set up five regional teams to deal with outbreak 
--Orders to deploy actual forces would be reviewed later 29 Jul 2009 The 
Pentagon is preparing to help the Federal Emergency Management Agency tackle a 
potential outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, FOX News has confirmed. The 
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices voted to set vaccination 
priorities for those groups Wednesday during a meeting in Atlanta. The vote came on 
the same day that Gen. Victor Renuart, the U.S. commander for Northern 
Command, has asked Defense Secretary Robert Gates to sign an executive order for 
the military to set up five regional teams to deal with the potential 
outbreak if FEMA requests help. Gates is expected to sign the order soon. It is 
not known how many troops would be needed and whether they would come from the 
active duty or the National Guard and Reserve forces. As a first step, 
Gates is being asked to sign a so-called "execution order" that would authorize 
the military to begin to conduct the detailed planning to execute the 
proposed plan. [Barack Obama was 'allowed' to win so that he could put a friendly 
face on the military dictatorship that is at our doorstep. Obama has done 
*nothing* for the Left -- those who worked tirelessly for him so that he could 
implement 'change.'?Obama has,?in fact,?out-Bushed Bush. Bush-Cheney could 
only *dream* of what Obama is poised to 'accomplish.' The full-blown police 
state is here -- the raison d'etre for the US Army-created flu pandemic. 
Just as the CLG has documented and predicted. --Lori Price] 


Military planning for possible H1N1 outbreak 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/29/military-poised-help-fema-battle-
swine-flu-outbreak/

29 Jul 2009 The U.S. military wants to establish regional teams of military 
personnel to assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant 
outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department officials. 
The proposal is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Robert 
Gates. The officials would not be identified because the proposal from U.S. 
Northern Command's Gen. Victor Renuart has not been approved by the secretary. 
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From rmigalla at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 30 13:43:23 2009
From: rmigalla at earthlink.net (Robin Migalla)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:43:23 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] ARTICLES-Swine flu and preparations
Message-ID: <01CA1113.5410D300.rmigalla@earthlink.net>

Hi Beverley and Everyone,

I'm getting to the point of amusement with all of this.  It's like watching 
little boys play army, and if memory serves, it was always good when my 
kids could occupy themselves playing which left me time to do some of the 
things I found enjoyable - like watching my kids play.  I just hope these 
folks don't hurt themselves.

On a lighter note, conditions in CAFOs are so terrible, cows are committing 
suicide on such a wide scale, there are even road signs warning drivers 
(see attached).

Cheers,
Robin



-----Original Message-----
From:	Walterb306 at cs.com [SMTP:Walterb306 at cs.com]
Sent:	Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:42
To:	citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net
Cc:	Walterb306 at cs.com
Subject:	[CitizensTruth] ARTICLES-Swine flu and preparations

All,

FYI.

Beverley


News Updates from Citizens For Legitimate Government 29 Jul 2009
http://www.legitgov.org/ All items are here: 
http://www.legitgov.org/#breaking_news
Military Poised to Help FEMA Battle Swine Flu Outbreak --
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/29/military-poised-help-fema-bat  
tle-
swine-flu-outbreak/

U.S. commander for Northern Command asked Defense Secretary to sign
executive order for military to set up five regional teams to deal with 
outbreak
--Orders to deploy actual forces would be reviewed later 29 Jul 2009 The
Pentagon is preparing to help the Federal Emergency Management Agency 
tackle a
potential outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, FOX News has confirmed. The
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices voted to set vaccination
priorities for those groups Wednesday during a meeting in Atlanta. The vote 
came on
the same day that Gen. Victor Renuart, the U.S. commander for Northern
Command, has asked Defense Secretary Robert Gates to sign an executive 
order for
the military to set up five regional teams to deal with the potential
outbreak if FEMA requests help. Gates is expected to sign the order soon. 
It is
not known how many troops would be needed and whether they would come from 
the
active duty or the National Guard and Reserve forces. As a first step,
Gates is being asked to sign a so-called "execution order" that would 
authorize
the military to begin to conduct the detailed planning to execute the
proposed plan. [Barack Obama was 'allowed' to win so that he could put a 
friendly
face on the military dictatorship that is at our doorstep. Obama has done
*nothing* for the Left -- those who worked tirelessly for him so that he 
could
implement 'change.' Obama has, in fact, out-Bushed Bush. Bush-Cheney could
only *dream* of what Obama is poised to 'accomplish.' The full-blown police
state is here -- the raison d'etre for the US Army-created flu pandemic.
Just as the CLG has documented and predicted. --Lori Price]


Military planning for possible H1N1 outbreak
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/29/military-poised-help-fema-bat  
tle-
swine-flu-outbreak/

29 Jul 2009 The U.S. military wants to establish regional teams of military
personnel to assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant
outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department 
officials.
The proposal is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Robert
Gates. The officials would not be identified because the proposal from U.S.
Northern Command's Gen. Victor Renuart has not been approved by the 
secretary.
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From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com  Thu Jul 30 19:09:45 2009
From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:09:45 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Towards a global currency,
 and MORE economic conquest: OR How the world REALLY works
Message-ID: <4A722839.5090307@thetwofacesofmoney.com>

Hi all,

I've put together a "Cliff notes" of sorts about the way the world 
REALLY works.

I begin with a few key excerpts from an article by economist Michel 
Chossudovsky . . . . . .Please do re-read the second and last sentences 
I have excerpted. . .

. . . .THEN listen to YouTube clips below these excerpts in which 
economist Michael Hudson talks about how Americans are going into an 
"epoch of debt peonage", "land rents" and a new form of  
"neo-colonialism" causing a veritable tsunami of Americans to move into 
a permanently indentured servant class. Hudson also discusses how third 
world farmers figure into the current global scheme of land-grabbing, 
and how the U.S. military machine is created by money obtained through 
debt to the banking system:  

<PERTINENT EXCERPTS>
Global Geopolitics bears a relationship to the international monetary 
system. CONTROL OVER MONEY CREATION IS AN INSTRUMENT OF ECONOMIC 
CONQUEST.  . .

The INVASION AND OCCUPATION of Iraq was to EXCLUDE rival Russian and 
Chinese interests from the Middle-East and Central Asian OIL FIELDS. . .

. . .The IMF has recently presented a plan for issuing debt denominated 
in SDRs rather than US dollars. The media has heralded this decision as 
a major innovation, when in fact the Bretton Woods institutions have, 
for many years, been issuing debt denominated in SDRs. . .

. ..Actual central banking functions, however, would not necessarily be 
transferred to the IMF, they would remain in the hands of four 
constituent central banks:  The US Federal  Reserve, the European 
Central Bank based in Frankfurt, the Bank of England and the Bank of 
Japan. I

The IMF is a bureaucracy which serves the interests of major private 
financial institutions. . .While the IMF would formally be responsible 
for overseeing a global currency, the IMF would not actually be 
responsible for monetary policy. Under the existing SDR composition, the 
central banking functions would be divided between four central banks. 
These central banks are in turn controlled by a handful of private 
banking interests. . .

 . . .This integration would lead to reinforcing the hegemonic control 
of a small number of global banking and financial institutions over the 
process of money creation. This, in turn, would overshadow the functions 
of national central banks, ENCROACH [further] ON THE SOVEREIGNTY OF THE 
NATION STATE AND EVENTUALLY LEAD TO A NEW PHASE OF THE GLOBAL DEBT 
CRISIS.  <END EXCERPTS>

NOW  ------  

------- for America's new "epoch of debt peonage" and how 3rd world 
farmers and the U.S. military figure in. Check this 3 part series of 
YouTube clips, in which Max Keiser interviews economist and former 
economic advisor to Dennis Kucinich:

In part 1, Keiser talks about a "certain benign attitude toward 
financial genocide" and refers to our much-touted "all knowing Market" 
as being part of "market theocracy". He also defines financiers 
(especially those at Goldman Sachs) as exhibiting psychopathic behavior, 
all laying the groundwork for the Hudson interview:   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtIEGvtwHFI

Part 2 has Hudson discussing the criminal behavior of Goldman Sachs (and 
assorted business associates) who hide behind euphemisms like "making 
markets" instead of the more accurate "manipulation of markets". He also 
mentions the recent (renewed from the ancient) practice of melting down 
of copper pennies for personal gain, then talks about the problems 
inherent with mortgages made at 125% of value and the coming "epoch of 
debt peonage" entailing a new perpetual "indentured servitude" - a dream 
for investment bankers, a nightmare for everyone else: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDzjxV8JUzQ

Part 3 starts with "land-grabbing" and neo-colonialism as discussed at 
the G-8 summit in Italy. This was a topic due to the fact that in just 6 
month's time an area the size of all of Europe's  farmlands have been 
bought FROM poor nations BY nations like China and the Gulf nations - 
AND major corporations.

Hudson explains that the reason this is happening is because China, and 
the Gulf nations are trading their devalued U.S. dollars for farms that 
third world countries are selling in order to pay their debt. Notice 
Hudson's comment about the much heralded "Debt relief programs", which 
ONLY canceled debts of the governments. As a result of said "Debt 
Relief", third world countries now pay ALL of their export earnings to 
the private banks. Says Hudson, "It's almost as if the original regime 
had been working for the debt holders, primarily Goldman Sachs, Chase 
Manhattan, etc." (Shades of John Perkins and the Economic Hit Men?)

Keiser points out that what is happening in the third world in the way 
of land-grabbing, rent-seeking, economic devastation etc is also being 
visited upon the U.S.

Last but hardly least is Hudson's assertion that many countries are 
realizing that the U.S. military machine is created through our 
debt/money machine:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ4guomLmpI

All three together certainly do point to psychopathic behavior  - not to 
mention an urgent need to demand Congress do its Constitutional duty and 
create debt "free" money. If we can do that, we can bring an end to the 
"free lunch". If not its every man for himself.


From rmigalla at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 31 14:58:15 2009
From: rmigalla at earthlink.net (Robin Migalla)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:58:15 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] House Approves Food-Safety Bill
Message-ID: <01CA11E6.F44519C0.rmigalla@earthlink.net>

Thanks for sharing this Izabela.  I was curious what would happen after I 
spoke to my Representative's office.  Bill Foster's staff member, Kyle, 
told me how positive Foster was that this was a good thing; especially, 
because the Illinois Corn Growers and the Farm Bureaus were supporting it. 
 I politely told Kyle, that I was a real flesh and blood constituent, and 
that I felt I owed it to Foster to let him know my opinion.  After all, 
aren't I Foster's boss?  I wonder why "associations" and "bureaus" carry 
more weight than people.  But now, thanks to the Washington Post, I'm 
enlightened.  "Shaken consumer confidence" is important enough to push this 
kind of legislation.

I'm a consumer, and my confidence is just fine.  I hope this bill doesn't 
make it more difficult for my farmers to continue to provide nutrient-dense 
food so I don't have to have my confidence shaken.  (Didn't Paul Simon do a 
song about this? ;-)

Is anyone else amused by such legislation that is in response to 5000 
deaths a year?  Wouldn't Congress be doing more for shaken consumer 
confidence if it shifted the mass quantities of money supporting a war that 
kills how many people a day?  Jeez are this folks weird.  Ah, here's a 
clue: "Tainted food has cost the food industry billions of dollars in 
recalls, lost sales and legal expenses."

Oh, and here's Obama's big reason - "President Obama, who has voiced 
concerns about the safety of peanut butter consumed by his 8-year-old 
daughter, endorsed the House bill Wednesday."  Wow, I'm glad this is a 
priority for our president.  I can't think of anything more pressing.

I'm going to stop reading now.  This article has activated my sarcasm 
button way too much, and I fear I may fall off one of those cliffs with the 
cows.

Cheers,
Robin

-----Original Message-----
From:	ibaroque [SMTP:izylife at hotmail.com]
Sent:	Friday, July 31, 2009 12:56
To:	WestonAPriceElginIllinoisChapter at yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[WestonAPriceElginIllinoisChapter] House Approves Food-Safety Bill



The House approved the first major changes to food-safety laws in 70 years 
Thursday, giving sweeping new authority to the Food and Drug Administration 
to regulate the way food is grown, harvested and processed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/30/AR200907  
3003271.html


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From richardfobes at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 31 16:36:24 2009
From: richardfobes at hotmail.com (Richard Fobes)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:36:24 -0500
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Friendly Reminder:  Dr. Bob Bowman in Chicago,
 Saturday, August 1st, 5pm, 2746 N. Magnolia
Message-ID: <BAY128-W2796D6EF2C52D3DACC6F41D5100@phx.gbl>





A friendly reminder:

 

You are cordially invited to this upcoming speaker event featuring Dr. Bob Bowman.  
The LA Times labeled him "the best public speaker in the country."  





Dr. Robert M. Bowman is a winner of the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President?s Medal of Veterans for Peace, retired Lt. Col. USAF who flew 101 combat missions in the Vietnam war, and a former director of the Star Wars missile defense program under the Ford and Carter administrations.  Dr. Bowman is currently touring the United States on his ?Take Back America!? tour.  He speaks on the current state of US foreign policy, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, 9/11, corporatism, and health care.


What: 
Dr. Bob Bowman
2009 Patriot Tour



            Dr. Bowman challenges us to ?Take Back America? for the people.  He explains why we need a government that:


                             (1) Follows the Constitution
                                    (2) Honors the Truth, and
                                    (3) Serves the People.


            Think what a difference that would make!  No more imperial presidency.  No nuclear attack on Iran.  No more undeclared wars of aggression.  No more spying on the American people.  No more jailing of dissidents.  No more corporations importing and exploiting millions of illegal immigrants to drive down wages.  No more exporting of jobs.  No more NAFTA.  No more North American Union.  No more government lies, false-flag attacks, and cover-ups.  No more corporate welfare.  No more health plans written by insurance companies and pharmaceutical manufacturers.  No more energy policies written by Exxon and Enron.  No more trillions in debt.  No more torture.  Most importantly, no more using our sons and daughters to kill Arabs for the oil companies.  Let?s ?Take Back America!!?


When and Where:


 Saturday, August 1st, 5pm

UNITED BETHLEHEM CHURCH OF CHRIST
2746 N. Magnolia
Chicago, IL 60614
Call Rich for more info:  630.362.5053
Suggested Donation $10 to cover travel costs






For more details about Dr. Bowman, please visit www.thepatriots.us.





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