From futurenotwritten at yahoo.com Mon Jun 1 12:06:42 2009 From: futurenotwritten at yahoo.com (Jay Becker) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CitizensTruth] On the Murder of Dr. George Tiller Message-ID: <796130.94931.qm@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.revcom.us/a/167/Tiller-en.html As We Go to Press: On the Assassination of Caring, Courageous, Abortion Provider, Dr. George Tiller As we go to press, the news has broken that Dr. George Tiller, one of the few doctors in the country to openly and publicly perform late-term abortions, was assassinated while attending Sunday services in Wichita, Kansas. His wife, Jeanne Tiller, was in the choir at the time of the murder. Dr. Tiller was a courageous, caring doctor who risked his life every day to make it possible for women to have late-term abortions. He had every understanding of what risks he was taking in doing so. He survived a previous assassination attempt in 1993 when he was shot in both arms by Shelly Shannon, a so-called ?pro-life? activist. Dr. Tiller returned to work the next day. Over three plus decades of providing abortions, his church was picketed and he was harassed at home. His clinic was bombed. He was hounded by a grand jury investigation, and faced criminal prosecution. In March of this year a Wichita jury took just 45 minutes to acquit Dr. Tiller of charges that he performed 19 illegal late-term abortions in 2003. In the face of all this, Dr. Tiller never bent in his commitment to the right of any woman, in any circumstance, to choose whether or not to have an abortion. In 1993, Dr. Tiller said in a statement: ?It is not unplanned pregnancy, it is unwanted motherhood that shipwrecks people?s lives. Make no mistake, this battle is about self-determination by women of the direction and course of their lives and their family?s lives. Abortion is about women?s hopes and dreams. Abortion is a matter of survival for women.? Debra Sweet, Director of World Can?t Wait, told Revolution that Dr. Tiller was ?someone who women could go to in very stressful circumstances, and not find him judgmental.? And she said, ?This is a huge blow. Nobody?s doing what he was doing. I?ve known people from all over the country who have gone to him, and doctors from all over the country refer to him because there is no one else. This was the place women could go, as a last resort, even into the third trimester. This is the single most important doctor doing abortions in the country. His view was that he was saving women?s lives by doing this, and he continued doing it even knowing that his own life was at risk.? At a pro-choice rally in 2001 in Wichita, Emily Lyons?a nurse who was seriously injured in an anti-abortion bombing of a Birmingham abortion clinic in 1998?spoke about the inspiration she got from Dr. Tiller: ?Not only have I been in a war, but gone to hell and come back,? she told the rally. ?There are heroes in every war,? she continued, ?and Dr. Tiller is one of mine. Many would not have the courage to do what he has accomplished.? Mary Lou Greenberg, of the Revolutionary Communist Party, met Dr. Tiller when she helped organize the Wichita protests to defend his clinic and abortion rights in 1995 and again in 2001. She described him as ?a very gentle person, who was determined to assist women, and very warm in his manner.? She told Revolution about the impact of seeing the walls of his clinic, lined with framed letters of appreciation, from women of all ages and circumstances. She remembers one, which read, ?Thank you for giving me back my life.? Dr. Tiller?s defiance, his caring spirit, his commitment to a woman?s right to an abortion, and his sacrifice must serve as a challenge to all those who would not see women reduced to enslavement as forced child-breeders. Revolution will have more to say about the murder of Dr. Tiller and the battle for abortion rights in future issues. But today, we mourn with outrage the loss of this heroic, compassionate abortion doctor. ? People should attend vigils, protests, and other events that are being planned to remember George Tiller and speak out against his murder. [For those in or near Chicago, that's 4 pm at the State of Illinois Building, Clark & Randolph, today.] Stop thinking like an American, Start thinking about humanity! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmigalla at earthlink.net Mon Jun 1 12:29:52 2009 From: rmigalla at earthlink.net (Robin Migalla) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:29:52 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] On the Murder of Dr. George Tiller Message-ID: <01C9E2AC.48E18000.rmigalla@earthlink.net> Hi Jay and Fellow Truth Seekers, This truly is a tragedy. I'm so sorry to see someone's outrage at what they believe to be wrong creating such an outrageous action. This is why I must pay attention when this reaction follows: "But today, we mourn with outrage the loss of this heroic, compassionate abortion doctor." which in my way of thinking will only create more outrage. I also am perplexed by anyone who claims to know what anyone else should do as in this statement: "People should attend vigils, protests, and other events that are being planned to remember George Tiller and speak out against his murder." How do they know what I should do? Is it possible that there is a different way? If anyone is interested, I'll be offering silent prayers of gratitude and compassion for the all of these victims of outrage at noon and 2:00pm CDT. Feel free to join me in spirit if you'd like. Cheers, Robin -----Original Message----- From: Jay Becker [SMTP:futurenotwritten at yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 11:07 To: Citizens Truth Subject: [CitizensTruth] On the Murder of Dr. George Tiller http://www.revcom.us/a/167/Tiller-en.html As We Go to Press: On the Assassination of Caring, Courageous, Abortion Provider, Dr. George Tiller As we go to press, the news has broken that Dr. George Tiller, one of the few doctors in the country to openly and publicly perform late-term abortions, was assassinated while attending Sunday services in Wichita, Kansas. His wife, Jeanne Tiller, was in the choir at the time of the murder. Dr. Tiller was a courageous, caring doctor who risked his life every day to make it possible for women to have late-term abortions. He had every understanding of what risks he was taking in doing so. He survived a previous assassination attempt in 1993 when he was shot in both arms by Shelly Shannon, a so-called "pro-life" activist. Dr. Tiller returned to work the next day. Over three plus decades of providing abortions, his church was picketed and he was harassed at home. His clinic was bombed. He was hounded by a grand jury investigation, and faced criminal prosecution. In March of this year a Wichita jury took just 45 minutes to acquit Dr. Tiller of charges that he performed 19 illegal late-term abortions in 2003. In the face of all this, Dr. Tiller never bent in his commitment to the right of any woman, in any circumstance, to choose whether or not to have an abortion. In 1993, Dr. Tiller said in a statement: "It is not unplanned pregnancy, it is unwanted motherhood that shipwrecks people's lives. Make no mistake, this battle is about self-determination by women of the direction and course of their lives and their family's lives. Abortion is about women's hopes and dreams. Abortion is a matter of survival for women." Debra Sweet, Director of World Can't Wait, told Revolution that Dr. Tiller was "someone who women could go to in very stressful circumstances, and not find him judgmental." And she said, "This is a huge blow. Nobody's doing what he was doing. I've known people from all over the country who have gone to him, and doctors from all over the country refer to him because there is no one else. This was the place women could go, as a last resort, even into the third trimester. This is the single most important doctor doing abortions in the country. His view was that he was saving women's lives by doing this, and he continued doing it even knowing that his own life was at risk." At a pro-choice rally in 2001 in Wichita, Emily Lyons-a nurse who was seriously injured in an anti-abortion bombing of a Birmingham abortion clinic in 1998-spoke about the inspiration she got from Dr. Tiller: "Not only have I been in a war, but gone to hell and come back," she told the rally. "There are heroes in every war," she continued, "and Dr. Tiller is one of mine. Many would not have the courage to do what he has accomplished." Mary Lou Greenberg, of the Revolutionary Communist Party, met Dr. Tiller when she helped organize the Wichita protests to defend his clinic and abortion rights in 1995 and again in 2001. She described him as "a very gentle person, who was determined to assist women, and very warm in his manner." She told Revolution about the impact of seeing the walls of his clinic, lined with framed letters of appreciation, from women of all ages and circumstances. She remembers one, which read, "Thank you for giving me back my life." Dr. Tiller's defiance, his caring spirit, his commitment to a woman's right to an abortion, and his sacrifice must serve as a challenge to all those who would not see women reduced to enslavement as forced child-breeders. Revolution will have more to say about the murder of Dr. Tiller and the battle for abortion rights in future issues. But today, we mourn with outrage the loss of this heroic, compassionate abortion doctor. People should attend vigils, protests, and other events that are being planned to remember George Tiller and speak out against his murder. [For those in or near Chicago, that's 4 pm at the State of Illinois Building, Clark & Randolph, today.] Stop thinking like an American, Start thinking about humanity! << File: ATT00055.htm; charset = utf-8 >> << File: ATT00056.txt >> From futurenotwritten at yahoo.com Mon Jun 1 12:44:16 2009 From: futurenotwritten at yahoo.com (Jay Becker) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CitizensTruth] On the Murder of Dr. George Tiller Message-ID: <181520.47694.qm@web33504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think that's an expression of a belief that public statements (in all kinds of forms) are critically important right now. The women's movement (what little remains of it) has left the public stage almost entirely to the Christian fanatical right, refusing to take on their terms of shame and guilt aimed at women who insist on controlling their own reproduction. And as for "seeking common ground" with them, as Dr. Barry Lynd said, the only common ground these people seek is the ground to bury us in. So yes, there's an opinion expressed. Each of us can decide whether we agree with the opinion or not and, if so, how to act on our beliefs. As for outrage, I can only think of all the thousands of women who will face even greater hurdles to get an abortion, hurdles many will be unable to surmount, and all the doctors who will be discouraged from providing those health care services. These anti-abortion killers are part of a movement to reduce women to incubators. Without reproductive rights, our right to participate as full members of society is moot. We are talking about half of humanity here. It's heartbreaking and yes, an outrage. Jay Becker Stop thinking like an American, Start thinking about humanity! --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Robin Migalla wrote: From: Robin Migalla Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] On the Murder of Dr. George Tiller To: "Citizens Truth" Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:29 AM Hi Jay and Fellow Truth Seekers, This truly is a tragedy.? I'm so sorry to see someone's outrage at what they believe to be wrong creating such an outrageous action.? This is why I must pay attention when this reaction follows: "But today, we mourn with outrage the loss of this heroic, compassionate abortion doctor." which in my way of thinking will only create more outrage. I also am perplexed by anyone who claims to know what anyone else should do as in this statement: "People should attend vigils, protests, and other events that are being planned to remember George Tiller and speak out against his murder." How do they know what I should do?? Is it possible that there is a different way? If anyone is interested, I'll be offering silent prayers of gratitude and compassion for the all of these victims of outrage at noon and 2:00pm CDT. Feel free to join me in spirit if you'd like. Cheers, Robin -----Original Message----- From:??? Jay Becker [SMTP:futurenotwritten at yahoo.com] Sent:??? Monday, June 01, 2009 11:07 To:??? Citizens Truth Subject:??? [CitizensTruth] On the Murder of Dr. George Tiller http://www.revcom.us/a/167/Tiller-en.html As? We Go to Press: ??? On the Assassination? of Caring, Courageous, Abortion Provider, Dr. George Tiller As we go to press, the news has broken that Dr. George Tiller, one of the few doctors in the country to openly and publicly perform late-term abortions, was assassinated while attending Sunday services in Wichita, Kansas. His wife, Jeanne Tiller, was in the choir at the time of the murder. Dr. Tiller was a courageous, caring doctor who risked his life every day to make it possible for women to have late-term abortions. He had every understanding of what risks he was taking in doing so. He survived a previous assassination attempt in 1993 when he was shot in both arms by Shelly Shannon, a so-called "pro-life" activist. Dr. Tiller returned to work the next day. Over three plus decades of providing abortions, his church was picketed and he was harassed at home. His clinic was bombed. He was hounded by a grand jury investigation, and faced criminal prosecution. In March of this year a Wichita jury took just 45 minutes to acquit Dr. Tiller of charges that he performed 19 illegal late-term abortions in 2003. In the face of all this, Dr. Tiller never bent in his commitment to the right of any woman, in any circumstance, to choose whether or not to have an abortion. In 1993, Dr. Tiller said in a statement: "It is not unplanned pregnancy, it is unwanted motherhood that shipwrecks people's lives. Make no mistake, this battle is about self-determination by women of the direction and course of their lives and their family's lives. Abortion is about women's hopes and dreams. Abortion is a matter of survival for women." Debra? Sweet, Director of World Can't Wait, told Revolution that Dr. Tiller was "someone who women could go to in very stressful circumstances, and not find him judgmental." And she said, "This is a huge blow. Nobody's doing what he was doing. I've known people from all over the country who have gone to him, and doctors from all over the country refer to him because there is no one else. This was the place women could go, as a last resort, even into the third trimester. This is the single most important doctor doing abortions in the country. His view was that he was saving women's lives by doing this, and he continued doing it even knowing that his own life was at risk." At a pro-choice rally in 2001 in Wichita, Emily Lyons-a nurse who was seriously injured in an anti-abortion bombing of a Birmingham abortion clinic in 1998-spoke about the inspiration she got from Dr. Tiller: "Not only have I been in a war, but gone to hell and come back," she told the rally. "There are heroes in every war," she continued, "and Dr. Tiller is one of mine. Many would not have the courage to do what he has accomplished." Mary Lou Greenberg, of the Revolutionary Communist Party, met Dr. Tiller when she helped organize the Wichita protests to defend his clinic and abortion rights in 1995 and again in 2001. She described him as "a very gentle person, who was determined to assist women, and very warm in his manner." She told Revolution about the impact of seeing the walls of his clinic, lined with framed letters of appreciation, from women of all ages and circumstances. She remembers one, which read, "Thank you for giving me back my life." Dr. Tiller's defiance, his caring spirit, his commitment to a woman's right to an abortion, and his sacrifice must serve as a challenge to all those who would not see women reduced to enslavement as forced child-breeders. Revolution will have more to say about the murder of Dr. Tiller and the battle for abortion rights in future issues. But today, we mourn with outrage the loss of this heroic, compassionate abortion doctor. People should attend vigils, protests, and other events that are being planned to remember George Tiller and speak out against his murder. [For those in or near Chicago, that's 4 pm at the State of Illinois Building, Clark & Randolph, today.] ? ? 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URL: From Walterb306 at cs.com Tue Jun 2 12:02:57 2009 From: Walterb306 at cs.com (Walterb306 at cs.com) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:02:57 EDT Subject: [CitizensTruth] ARTICLE-Government taps bailout contractors with conflicts of interest Message-ID: All, FYI. "General Geithner" and war on the middle class. Beverley http://washingtonindependent.com/44659/fed-taps-bailout-contractors-with-con flicts-of-interests Government taps bailout contractors with conflicts of interest Firms With Ties to Banks Can Work Both Sides of Rescue By Elana Schor 5/29/09 6:00 AM Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner (WDCpix) As the Wall Street bailout nears its first anniversary, the controversy over giving public money to private banks has become public knowledge. But an equally risky aspect of the financial rescue has flown largely under the radar: the government's reliance on private contractors - many with potentially significant conflicts of interest - to help revive the stalled economy. The Treasury Department knows that the law firms and investment managers hired to aid its salvage effort could be influenced by their ties to bailed-out banks; in fact, the department released a rule in January aiming to mitigate the problem. That rule, however, has raised questions from watchdogs by asking contractors to identify and police their own conflicts of interest. And a careful review of bailout hiring agreements reveals an inconsistent set of rules applied to the types of private deals that contractors can make while serving as agents of the U.S. government. Illustration by: Matt Mahurin "It's just a wonderfully closed circle," Simon Johnson, former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund and leading critic of the bailout, said in a recent interview. "They'll sell you on this line that there's a scarcity of talent," so contractors must be plucked from Wall Street and remain part of its culture, Johnson continued. "It's the same argument they're using to explain why they're appointing a Goldman Sachs lobbyist as [Treasury Secretary Tim] Geithner's chief of staff. That's part of how the club thinks." Can these contractors guide the bailout with the public interest in mind while simultaneously courting bailout-related business for themselves? It's tough to say, but imposing greater transparency requirements is crucial, according to more than a dozen financial and legal experts interviewed for this story. Right now, even as more of these lawyers and financiers are helping with the financial rescue, less is being disclosed about their handling of taxpayer-owned assets. Investment managers are setting values for securities that their companies may also hold privately, while law firms are approving government aid for companies they still represent in certain cases - but the public remains almost completely in the dark. The Investment Managers Consider the case of AllianceBernstein. Like many investment management firms, Alliance did not have a good 2008. Assets dropped by more than 40 percent, net income fell by one-third and the company was forced into its first layoffs in 35 years. Yet things were looking up by late April, thanks to the Treasury. Alliance was one of three firms the department chose to monitor the assets and debt of banks receiving bailout. Its contract involves Alliance in highly sensitive issues, from executive pay limits to the execution of government stock warrants. "We expect this to be an attractive proposition from a profitability point of view," CEO Peter Kraus told analysts as he announced the news. But Alliance executives also told analysts that the firm plans to apply for the Treasury's Public-Private Investment Program, which could allow the firm to leverage its look at banks' balance sheets into profits down the road. If Alliance joins the PPIP, the company could partner with private investors to purchase the same types of mortgage-backed securities that it's also handling for the government - thus earning a double windfall when the market value of those mortgage-backed securities increases. Neil Barofsky, the special inspector general for the Troubled Assets Relief Program warned of this potential conflict in his most recent report to Congress : "transactions in these frozen markets will have a significant impact on how any particular asset is priced in the market. As a result, the increase in the price of such an asset will greatly benefit anyone who owns or manages the same asset, including the [public-private program] manager who is making the investment decisions?" Under the Treasury's conflict-of-interest rule, Alliance and its fellow contractors (FSI Group and Piedmont Investment Advisors ) are only required to step aside from managing assets owned by a bailed-out bank if that bank's assets provided more than 5 percent of the firm's most recent annual revenue. The contracts signed by Alliance, FSI and Piedmont, posted on the Treasury's website , acknowledge six potential conflicts of interest and suggest how each can be worked around. Yet Treasury did not reveal which banks' assets were given to which contractor, or even whether the investment managers are doing anything with the securities they're being paid to watch. An Alliance spokesman declined to comment when asked how the firm is working out any conflict-of-interest risks it may face. "The whole idiocy of this," Chris Whalen, co-founder of the banking risk-management firm Institutional Risk Analytics, said during a recent conversation, "is that the administration would even have these firms pretending to manage this stuff, giving them subsidized deals." Alliance is now poised to value assets once held by Merrill Lynch - the same company that paid Alliance CEO Kraus a $25-million bonus for three months of work. Kraus' bonus, distributed just before Merrill was sold to Bank of America, was part of a $3.6 billion pot that is now under investigation by the New York attorney general and the Securities and Exchange Commission. A Treasury spokesman did not respond to several requests for comment on conflicts of interest, but did point to its January regulation as evidence of the government's action on the issue and awareness of possible problems. The Law Firms The risk of conflicts of interest is not limited to asset managers sitting on toxic mortgage-backed assets. Simpson Thacher & Bartlett, the prominent New York law firm chosen in October to be the chief legal adviser to the TARP, has a long history of shepherding mergers and acquisitions in the banking industry, particularly during the housing bubble's halcyon days. Before the bailout began, Simpson Thacher had advised Washington Mutual on avoiding insolvency and the board of AIG on winning help from the Federal Reserve . Come the crash, however, the law firm was put in charge of setting terms for the government's investment in major banks - on the opposite side of the table from the banks it once helped make mighty. Simpson Thacher's original contract, signed in October, did not mention the need to work around or waive conflicts. When the law firm agreed to expand its bailout work in February, however, that pact stated that Treasury "HAS NOT WAIVED any potential conflicts of interest" - giving the government room to make case-by-case decisions if problems arose. Yet the law firm's contract, however, appears to allow an inherent conflict of interest: The Treasury cleared Simpson Thacher to continue representing private clients participating in "other programs in support of the [bailout]" - non-TARP initiatives such as the PPIP or the Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility. In fact, Simpson Thacher senior partner Lee Meyerson, whose pivotal role in the TARP made him American Lawyer's No. 4 "Dealmaker of the Year," continued to advise private-equity clients on how to snap up failing banks while he worked on the bailout. When Florida's BankUnited collapsed last month, costing the government $4.9 billion, three private equity firms represented by Meyerson swooped in to take over the property. Simpson Thacher did not respond to repeated requests for comment about the language in its Treasury contract and on its internal mechanisms to prevent conflicts of interest. "These firms are making up the rules [of the bailout] and advising private clients about the rules," Yale Law School professor Jonathan Macey, a banking specialist and author, said in a recent interview. "The problem is, No. 1, this means we lose the appearance of fairness," he continued. "And, No. 2, there's a very strong inclination for the people making up the rules to be sympathetic to their own clients as opposed to other people's clients when they're writing the rules." Davis Polk & Wardwell, another law firm turned Treasury contractor, was so closely involved in drafting Geithner's proposal for "resolution authority" to wind down non-bank institutions that when members of Congress received the Obama administration's draft proposal on the topic, it still bore Davis Polk's computer signature. Ironically, Davis Polk turned down a chance to apply for Simpson Thacher's first bailout contract - citing the risk of conflicts of interest. At the Federal Reserve The Treasury is not the only bailout administrator that has come to lean on contractors. BlackRock, which manages a $1.3 trillion asset portfolio that ranks largest in the world, was hired for three no-bid deals in October by now-Treasury Secretary Geithner, then president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Geithner assigned BlackRock to supervise toxic assets once held by Bear Stearns, as well as those held by AIG - deals worth at least $71.3 million over three years. Yet BlackRock, like Alliance, plans to participate in the Treasury's PPIP, again offering the firm the possibility of benefits based on its knowledge of AIG and Bear's exposure. Lawmakers in both parties have raised concerns about BlackRock's conflicts, as The New York Times reported earlier this month. But Charles Hallac, a founding partner of BlackRock and the head of its risk-advisory arm, BlackRock Solutions, said such concerns are unfounded. No BlackRock analyst managing the AIG and Bear holdings will take part in the PPIP, or "any kind of program where they're using government funds to make money for clients, Hallac explained in a telephone interview. BlackRock was selected because of its expertise in separating its investment business from its risk-advisory business, Hallac added. "We didn't want to show this to anybody who was going to try to make money in the markets with this information. So we created a separate team within BlackRock Solutions to just manage the Fed portfolio." However, he said some employees in line to work on the PPIP have helped with a separate Fed program that involves buying up mortgage-backed securities. The financial world often uses the anachronistic phrase "Chinese wall" - a phrase that came into wide use after the 1929 stock market crash - to describe an investment firm's internal efforts to isolate compromising information. To a certain extent, then, the debate over conflicts of interest at BlackRock and other firms depends on whether you believe Chinese walls can survive in the age of BlackBerries and blogs. "Let's be honest, it's bullshit. They don't exist," Barry Ritholtz, the CEO of the independent research firm Fusion IQ and the creator of the Big Picture financial blog , said in an interview. "They're a theoretical, abstract legal construct that looks and sounds good when you're developing legal constructs." One hedge fund manager, who requested anonymity in order to speak candidly, said he is more concerned bailout contractors' access to Geithner and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke. "The public-private cooperation that's going on - not just in the PPIP - ought to be very unsettling to people," the hedge-fund manager said. "These guys are on the phone with Geithner, Bernanke, with everybody who matters and is setting policy in Washington. And at the same time, they're trading their own books." While bias among these government contractors is undeniably problematic, some experts asserted that it is also unavoidable. As this argument goes, if the government ruled out firms that did significant business with a bailed-out bank, there would be no one left to hire. "Because Treasury doesn't have the in-house expertise, it's inevitable that they would have to contract out," said Campbell Harvey, a professor of international business at Duke University. "It's also inevitable that there will be conflicts of interest. If you're qualified, then almost by definition, there's a conflict of interest." William Seidman, former chairman of the Resolution Trust Corporation (RTC), which led the recovery effort after the 1990s savings-and-loan crisis, offered a sharp contrast to Treasury's current opaque bailout contracts. Seidman said he racked up large auditing bills to ensure that his contractors were complying with conflict-of-interest rules. "Occasionally we had transactions that we didn't make public for some sort of public-policy reason, but ? most we had to report to Congress," he said in an interview shortly before his death on May 13. "It was expensive," Seidman added, "but the program had so much potential for fraud or conflict that we thought it was essential." Elana Schor is the Washington correspondent for Streetsblog, a news Website focusing on sustainable transportation and infrastructure. She has formerly covered Congress for The Hill and The Guardian. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimension04 at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 2 19:58:04 2009 From: dimension04 at sbcglobal.net (Connie Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 18:58:04 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Thank you, Jay, re: murdered doctor In-Reply-To: <796130.94931.qm@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <796130.94931.qm@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: First, a quick response to Kris and her heartfelt request for feedback on late-term abortion. My only knowledge on that front has been reports that such an event is rare, that it is usually to save the life of the woman who often already has a family -- a husband and children who would be grieved and bereft the rest of their lives because of a pregnancy gone very wrong -- and that the pregnancy itself is non-life-sustainable by nature. And therefore extraordinarily advanced science would be constantly required to give the child some semblance of "life." Those extreme circumstances are all I've known about late-term abortion. If someone would want a late-term abortion just because she "didn't get around to it earlier," I can't see adequate justification for it. However, I have no right to interfere, and I'm glad that I PROBABLY won't face such a situation in my family. - - - As for the issue of abortion itself, which is usually performed early in a pregnancy, I have very strong opinions for abortion rights. If anyone cares to know why, here are my reasons: As a female who became a teenager in the 1960's, I never thought about abortion as an issue. I just knew of a certain percentage of girls and women who went for the procedure to an old lady in a small town somewhere around here. Fortunately I never heard of any deaths from such a "back-alley abortion" locally. But later I learned of a whole body of literature about families who lost their mom/daughter/sister/wife/girlfriend etc. -- via death due to the illegal and secretive nature of the operation. There was, however, the somewhat whispered mention a few times in my 20's about my mom's best friend on the neighboring farm, in their girlhood. The friend hanged herself in the barn due to her out-of-wedlock pregnancy. Further, it was rumored her condition was due to a family member's sexual abuse -- and NOT due to the girl's "promiscuity." At least the issue of incest is not denied in our society anymore, and victims can get help if they feel able to seek it. Un-wed pregnancy by itself is practically a non-issue -- although I'd personally say it's arguably better if a child could be raised by a loving couple (or "a village") instead of one struggling parent. But despite far less stigma now for the female who's reluctantly pregnant, if abortion were outlawed again, I'm convinced there are just no lengths a woman won't go to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, including suicidal methods. If abortion became illegal, there would once again be the great grief and losses in families due to the deaths of moms, daughters, sisters, wives, girlfriends and more. Many women, for many good reasons, simply will not go through pregnancy and childbirth against their will -- laws or no laws. Due to a number of work-related moves around the country in the 1970's and not having any steady newspaper subscription, I never saw an anti-abortion letter-to-the-editor until around 1980 -- and I was naively astonished! It was almost incomprehensible to me that some people would go retro and desire to reinstate laws that interfere with a woman's need to protect her body and her life. And my opinion had been further reinforced by my own experience with pregnancy. Despite being married and very much wanting a child and having what some would say was "an easy pregnancy" -- although now I dispute that any pregnancy is "easy" -- but despite all good conditions, when the day came, I nevertheless found myself in a 30+ hour labor ordeal, my gyn/ob resorting to a C-section so my baby and myself would not die, and then my 106.7 near-death fever that followed. I was very weak and ill for a year. But at least my baby daughter was robustly healthy. I recall that as I was being prepped for the C-section, I weakly asked the nurse, "What did they do in the old days when something like this happened?" She said, "The used to die, Dear. They still do. But you and child are going to be fine now." I don't have the statistics at hand anymore, like I used to. But I left off collecting them when it was overwhelmingly demonstrable that women still do indeed die in this day and age due to pregnancy and childbirth. And just like what became the end of the draft for men -- you don't join up and go off to war now except voluntarily -- a woman's accidental pregnancy and facing all the potential ordeals is something I believe she volunteers for -- or not. Until the point of what's known as "natural survivalhood after the end of the second trimester," pregnancy (actually it has always seemed to me) -- pregnancy is a woman's interior condition. Certainly, there is the unarguable life of the woman -- and therefore there are the unarguable rights of the woman -- to PROTECT her body and her life from any interior condition that could threaten, or is threatening, her well-being. It IS a shame when -- as has so often been the case and is a growing phenomenon in these economic times -- when a woman and/or her mate know that an additional child (often the case) is absolutely unaffordable. According to reports, abortion is being increasingly chosen because the existing children will be further impoverished, and parents feel that is irresponsible. And many further feel that adopting out is unthinkable -- to have a child out there somewhere and to never take responsibility for it and never be able to help with all that the child may go through, ever again, is just unthinkable. Like almost all surgical operations, abortion is regarded as scary and painful. But the thinking is: better to prevent a pregnancy from developing into a child if the woman seriously can't deal with the risks and ordeals of pregnancy and parenthood, or additional parenthood. And I don't buy into those silly accounts of "would you abort this pregnancy?" which then name off some serious birth defects. Once you're trapped into maybe saying yes, have an abortion -- then you find out those defects were the same as Beethoven's, for example. To those people I say: so you're saying a woman should risk or sacrifice her life just so that you can listen to some music?? I say, I don't think so! If you "respect life," then you would agree that a woman's life is more sacred than great music. And if you don't agree, then I contend it just shows the vast moral confusion, and perhaps outright hypocrisy, that is frequently exemplified by "pro-life." In conclusion, regarding the spiritual dimension of this issue, it is amazing to me that anti-abortion forces quote Jeremiah 1:5 from the Bible. In the first place, no one in America is legally obligated to adhere to the Bible. According to Article VI in the Constitution, even a U.S. President can be any religion in the world or no religion at all. Constitutional law specifies that "no religious test shall ever be required" for federal office. So certainly no citizen either can be subjected to any biblical dictate. American laws are based on the premises of many religions -- and beyond religion -- upon simple ethics and common sense. Fundamentally that is the universal Golden Rule which pertains to respecting others as you yourself wish to be respected. Respect would certainly not be interfering in a woman's decision about her health and well-being, her entire future! And for those who are literal biblical, I actually see Jeremiah 1:5 as a good basis FOR abortion rights. There, God says: "Before I formed thee in the womb, I knew thee." This is a clear implication that souls exist before pregnancy occurs. It means that the essential person or soul exists before a body is ever created, and therefore life doesn't "begin at conception." These biblical words are in alignment with a number of ancient and current religious beliefs and "new age" teachings about the eternal nature of each one of us: we always have existed and we always will, with life on Earth likely being one of many options. (Which perhaps explains Jesus' remarks about "My father's house has many mansions.") It's safe to say that billions of people believe life on Earth is a brief experience, or a series of experiences (as in reincarnation) -- and that if we are not born to one family for whatever reason (birth control, abortion, miscarriage, lack of fertility, etc), then we may very well be born to another family. Or -- perhaps be born in one of the other "many mansions." Even some scientists are attracted to this idea that we have always existed and always will exist, and that's because each one of us in essence is Energy -- and "Energy never dies, it only transforms." From a we-are-essentially-energy perspective, existence before birth and after life are thus seen by many as something that is logical. This of course in no way implies that a person's life on Earth, once attained via birth, is not sacred. This does not mean, "Well, if everyone is eternal, then so what if I kill somebody -- they'll still exist!" No. Another's body, once it is unarguably a separate life out of the womb, is as sacred and inviolable as your own body. But here's the fuzziness on late-term abortion. Although most would not, some premature births could survive without extreme medical intervention. But who knows which ones? And why do late-term abortions exist, anyway, except for the hard reasons mentioned at the beginning of this opinion-piece. I personally see late-terms as extremely rare -- and then, only because they are extremely necessary. And Dr. George Tiller of Kansas was there for women and families in those hard circumstances. His murder exemplies what I see, to repeat, as the vast moral confusion and occasional outright hypocrisy of anti-abortion forces. I think if they truly care about babies, ALL of their money and all of their efforts would turn away from giving women hardship -- and go instead towards solid support for the countless born children who are hungry, neglected, and abused. Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay Becker To: Citizens Truth Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: [CitizensTruth] On the Murder of Dr. George Tiller http://www.revcom.us/a/167/Tiller-en.html As We Go to Press: On the Assassination of Caring, Courageous, Abortion Provider, Dr. George Tiller As we go to press, the news has broken that Dr. George Tiller, one of the few doctors in the country to openly and publicly perform late-term abortions, was assassinated while attending Sunday services in Wichita, Kansas. His wife, Jeanne Tiller, was in the choir at the time of the murder. Dr. Tiller was a courageous, caring doctor who risked his life every day to make it possible for women to have late-term abortions. He had every understanding of what risks he was taking in doing so. He survived a previous assassination attempt in 1993 when he was shot in both arms by Shelly Shannon, a so-called ?pro-life? activist. Dr. Tiller returned to work the next day. Over three plus decades of providing abortions, his church was picketed and he was harassed at home. His clinic was bombed. He was hounded by a grand jury investigation, and faced criminal prosecution. In March of this year a Wichita jury took just 45 minutes to acquit Dr. Tiller of charges that he performed 19 illegal late-term abortions in 2003. In the face of all this, Dr. Tiller never bent in his commitment to the right of any woman, in any circumstance, to choose whether or not to have an abortion. In 1993, Dr. Tiller said in a statement: ?It is not unplanned pregnancy, it is unwanted motherhood that shipwrecks people?s lives. Make no mistake, this battle is about self-determination by women of the direction and course of their lives and their family?s lives. Abortion is about women?s hopes and dreams. Abortion is a matter of survival for women.? Debra Sweet, Director of World Can?t Wait, told Revolution that Dr. Tiller was ?someone who women could go to in very stressful circumstances, and not find him judgmental.? And she said, ?This is a huge blow. Nobody?s doing what he was doing. I?ve known people from all over the country who have gone to him, and doctors from all over the country refer to him because there is no one else. This was the place women could go, as a last resort, even into the third trimester. This is the single most important doctor doing abortions in the country. His view was that he was saving women?s lives by doing this, and he continued doing it even knowing that his own life was at risk.? At a pro-choice rally in 2001 in Wichita, Emily Lyons?a nurse who was seriously injured in an anti-abortion bombing of a Birmingham abortion clinic in 1998?spoke about the inspiration she got from Dr. Tiller: ?Not only have I been in a war, but gone to hell and come back,? she told the rally. ?There are heroes in every war,? she continued, ?and Dr. Tiller is one of mine. Many would not have the courage to do what he has accomplished.? Mary Lou Greenberg, of the Revolutionary Communist Party, met Dr. Tiller when she helped organize the Wichita protests to defend his clinic and abortion rights in 1995 and again in 2001. She described him as ?a very gentle person, who was determined to assist women, and very warm in his manner.? She told Revolution about the impact of seeing the walls of his clinic, lined with framed letters of appreciation, from women of all ages and circumstances. She remembers one, which read, ?Thank you for giving me back my life.? Dr. Tiller?s defiance, his caring spirit, his commitment to a woman?s right to an abortion, and his sacrifice must serve as a challenge to all those who would not see women reduced to enslavement as forced child-breeders. Revolution will have more to say about the murder of Dr. Tiller and the battle for abortion rights in future issues. But today, we mourn with outrage the loss of this heroic, compassionate abortion doctor. People should attend vigils, protests, and other events that are being planned to remember George Tiller and speak out against his murder. [For those in or near Chicago, that's 4 pm at the State of Illinois Building, Clark & Randolph, today.] Stop thinking like an American, Start thinking about humanity! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CitizensTruth mailing list CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth website: http://citizenstruth.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Walterb306 at cs.com Wed Jun 3 13:00:47 2009 From: Walterb306 at cs.com (Walterb306 at cs.com) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:00:47 EDT Subject: [CitizensTruth] ARTICLE - Unanswered Miracles about to be Answered Message-ID: All, FYI. This actually came out on January 23, 2009. Popped up on Buzzflash. Beverley http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2009/01/23.html Friday, January 23, 2009 UNANSWERED 9/11 MIRACLES ABOUT TO BE ANSWERED Hopefully this year, Pandora's Box will be fully opened regarding the abuses of power by the Bush/Cheney administration. Eventually, their treasonous 9/11 cover-up will be revealed and the world will reel in shock and disgust : Allen L Roland Barack Obama must first reveal the truth of our current financial nightmare as well as the abuses of power by the Bush/Cheney administration in order to restore trust in our government. That rapidly unfolding public vetting process will eventually lead to the 9/11 cover-up and Bush and Cheney's active participation or willing countenance of the tragic events of that day. Yesterday, Barack Obama today revoked President George W. Bush's Executive Order which makes presidential records secret for up to 12 years after leaving office! That would be the logical first step for his Administration to take if they are considering going after Bush for criminal prosecution over crimes against the nation ~ such as deliberately lying to take us to war in Iraq under false pretenses. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21816.htm Obama is committed to the truth but he will do this by not playing to his progressive base but by letting the events reveal themselves within the context of his pledge for government truth and transparency. Steven Kessler, editor of the Redwood Coast Review, accurately writes about the style of the new sheriff in town ~ President Barack Obama. " He's not playing to his base but is attempting to seduce the center and, through the functional political instruments of compromise, persuasion and patience with opposing points of view, maybe actually steer a course to accomplishment that reasonable people can agree on. Fundamentalism of any kind is not his thing ; he's a negotiator, a shape-shifter, yet he's also anchored in core beliefs and principles ~ honesty, decency, discipline, kindness ~ that he is unlikely to abandon." http://www.metcruz.com/metro-santa-cruz/01.14.09/cover-0902.html In that context, I return to the 9/11 scene, not to fan the flames but, instead, to review ongoing truths ~ particularly in light of the growing awareness of the obvious deceptions and lies of the Cheney/Bush Administration. Americans are now ready to look into the Pandora's Box of 9/11 because the implications are truly breathtaking and staggering for as each shocking abuse of power of the Cheney/Bush regime is revealed ~ the public becomes more open to the possibility of a monstrous deception beneath the unanswered 9/11 miracles. If one accepts the " Official Version " of the events that occurred on 9/11 or in the days leading up to it, one must conclude that a series of miracles indeed occurred ~ suggesting factitiously the hand of higher powers. Here they are once again ( Courtesy of Alex James ) Allen L Roland http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2009/01/23.html THE MIRACLE " On the day of the hijackings the US Government is running drills with its Air Force where it is simulating "Multiple Hijackings of Aircraft" within the United States of America. This drill causes great confusion amongst Air Traffic Controllers as it provides a "Cover" for the real Hijackings. Without these drills it is very possible that the Aircraft that were hijacked could have been intercepted far earlier. Certainly one has to consider this some sort of "Miracle" Surely "The hand of ???" The Miracle Months prior to the hijackings the US Government changes the rules of engagement for hijacked Aircraft. Now in order to send up planes to intercept, the approval of the Defense Secretary, one Donald Rumsfeld, is required. Unfortunately he goes missing for 30 minutes, on the morning of the attacks, again impeding the ability of intercepts to be flown . Not only this but on the day of those intercepts, supersonic US fighter aircraft that are scrambled suddenly have a top speed of only around 200 MPH. Surely "The Hand Of ???" The Miracle The US President is on a pre-scheduled event in a school in Florida. The Government has no idea of how many Aircraft have been hijacked or what the targets of the hijackers are. Indeed, given that the president's location that morning had been televised, the President himself might well be a target. Yet, rather then rush him to safety as they are trained ~ and expected ~ to do, the Secret Service is certain the President is not at risk. They let the President sit in the classroom and continue with his story about a pet goat for the next half hour ~ even after he was told the second tower was hit. A miracle of faith if anything. Surely "The Hand of ???" The Miracle Five Israeli Citizens manage to be across the river from the WTC towers and are in place to film the planes crashing into the towers. Great is their Joy as they realize that the United States will certainly discover that Al Qaeda is the Culprit and this will lead to the destruction of Israel's many enemies. How they came to be there is certainly a miracle, and that the attack lead to the destruction of their arch enemies, the Iraqis, even more so. Why, after traces of explosives were detected in their vans by bomb-sniffing dogs these men were inexplicably released by the police, only adds to this miracle. (They later admitted during an interview on Israeli television that they had been sent to the the United States "to document the event", but no one asked them who sent them.) Surely "the Hand Of Yahweh" The Miracle No steel-framed buildings in the history of construction had ever suffered total structural collapse due to fires, yet on this single day, within hours of one another, THREE buildings collapse after fires burn through them. This even after Firefighters claim to have had the fires under control. Surely "the Hand of ???" The Miracle All three towers collapse neatly into their own footprints, exactly as they do in controlled demolitions, at freefall speeds ~ i .e., in the same time it would take apples dropped from the roofs. All 110 floors fell as if nothing existed beneath them but air. Surely "the Hand of ???" The Miracle The owner of the buildings slips up on national television and admits that he ordered one of the towers (building 7) to be "pulled". A "Pull" ~ jargon for controlled demolition ~ requires months of planning and preparation. Yet, no one to this day has asked this man how he managed to achieve this incredible feat in a matter of hours, and amidst the chaos of 9/11. The 9/11 Commission surely must also have assumed this to be a miracle because they did not even address this in their report. That the insurance company paid out 7 billion dollars without even the slightest investigation ~ even after the owner's admission of a 'pull' ~ only compounds the magnitude of this miracle. Surely "the Hand of ???" The Miracle Jet fuel is essentially refined kerosene. It burns without problem in millions of steel stoves, heaters and furnaces around the world every day. Yet on 9/11, in less than an hour, this innocuous substance MELTED all the massive steel beams of three skyscrapers and caused the structures to collapse like pillars of sand in less than 10 seconds. How do we know the steel melted? Firefighters and other first responders reported seeing molten metal "flowing like rivers" in the basements of the collapsed buildings for several weeks. Surely "the Hand of ???" The Miracle Six months before the 9/11 attacks, the cluster of buildings that constitute the World Trade Center are purchased by a private investor for a relatively paltry sum of $200 million. (That was the first time in its 33-year history the complex had changed ownership). The new owner has the foresight (again miraculous, no doubt) to insure the buildings against terrorist attacks . The buildings were never seen as being profitable. In fact, because of their extremely high asbestos content, the structures had actually been condemned. Yet to destroy and rebuild them by conventional means would have been prohibitively expensive. It is indeed a miracle that the investor was paid $7 billion by the insurance companies after the attacks. A miraculously handsome return on an investment of $200 million. Surely "The hand of ???" The Miracle Immediately following the acquisition of the WTC complex, the new owner makes it a priority to change Security companies. The CEO and a director of the new security company are none other than George W. Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, and cousin, Wirt Walker III. It is a double-miracle that this same company is also responsible for providing security to American Airlines and the Dulles airport ~ both closely associated with the 9/11 attacks. Surely "The hand of ???" The Miracle Billions in profits are made off put options shortly before 9/11 wherein investors made up to $15 billion in a frenzy of trading betting that certain stocks would fall in value over the next few days. These included stocks in the two Airlines that would suffer most from 9/11. In fact, the profits were so staggering and unprecedented that it caused Bloomberg News to exclaim: "This would be the most extraordinary coincidence in the history of mankind if it was a coincidence. This could very well be insider trading at the worst, most horrific, most evil use you've ever seen in your entire life. It's absolutely unprecedented." Little did Bloomberg News know that it was in fact a miracle. Surely "The Hand of ???" The above mentioned miracles are but a small sampling of those that occurred on 9/11 . People who do not believe higher powers had a hand in these are surely blinded. The number of coincidences that occurred in those few days is mind boggling. Terrorists' passports that Miraculously survived fireballs and landed blocks away...the Miraculous bag that did not make the flight that included the names and details of every hijacker ...Persons receiving Miraculous warnings out of the ether not to fly on that day...Cell phones Miraculously working from 30,000 feet where they had never worked before...People who couldn't fly a little Cessna performing Miraculous corkscrew maneuvers in Jumbo jets...The list of Miracles on 9/11 is virtually endless. "???" has certainly spoken " ----------------------------------------------- Or is this the evil work of determined and unscrupulous men ? To be continued ..... but first let's re-open the 9/11 Investigation. Allen L Roland http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2009/01/23.html Freelance Online columnist Allen L Roland is available for comments, interviews and speaking engagements ( allen at allenroland.com ) Allen L Roland is a practicing psychotherapist, author and lecturer who also shares a daily political and social commentary on his weblog and website allenroland.com He also guest hosts a monthly national radio show TRUTHTALK on www.conscioustalk.net ________________________________________ Allen Roland's weblog: http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/ Website: www.allenroland.com ONLY THE TRUTH IS REVOLUTIONARY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Of course there are and have been conspiracy theories galore in American history, from the one that the Confederate Secret Service was behind the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, through what really sunk the battleship Maine in Havana Harbor, to what had Churchill (in WW I the British First Lord of the Admiralty) arranged to have squirreled away in the forepeak of the Lusitania (the sinking of which was a major factor drawing the United States into that war), on to both Kennedy and the King assassinations, and so on and so forth. It happens that conspiracies in the Western world are more often linked to right-wing forces than they are to left-wing forces. (Actually, considering just the United States, since there have not been any militant left-wing forces other than the short-lived and ill-fated Weathermen for almost a century, that is hardly surprising.) So whenever a conspiracy theory is put forward, the Right jumps on it in full throat: "Conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory," as if just saying that would be the end of it. Well, that isn't the end of it. To illustrate the point let's just take an historical meander through just some of the more prominent conspiracies that the U.S. Right and on occasion the U.S. Center (as in a Democratic President), in power, have hatched and both successfully and on rare occasions unsuccessfully brought to a conclusion over the last half-century or so.Just so we know what we are talking about, let's use a definition of the term, which the Right never does when hurling the charge. Wikipedia defines "conspiracy theories" as "attempts to explain the cause of an event as a secret, and often deceptive, plot by a covert alliance." One can also note that from its Latin root the word "conspiracy" means literally (and simply) "with a secret." In English usage, it refers to a secret plan, developed and implemented by a secret group. Further, if and when the desired outcome is achieved, the secret plan always includes a basis for claiming that outcome is not the result of any conspiracy. Public deniability is an absolutely essential element of such efforts. In this light, let us consider some foreign policy actions undertaken by U.S. administrations (mainly but not exclusively Republican) since the 1950s. In 1953, the government of the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran, Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh, was overthrown in a coup secretly organized by Theodore Roosevelt's son Kermit, working for the CIA. The coup was claimed to be indigenous at the time. The formerly pro-Nazi Shah was re-installed on his throne and an essentially fascist regime was established. The secret U.S. involvement couldn't possibly be termed a conspiracy, could it? In 1954, the French Indo-Chinese War was brought to a peaceful end by the Geneva Agreement, guaranteed by Great Britain and the Soviet Union. The U.S. was not a party to it. Under the agreement, the nation was temporarily divided into two parts, North and South (President Reagan to the contrary notwithstanding, this was an entirely artificial creation that had no roots anywhere in Indo-Chinese history). A national election was to be held by 1956. It was widely assumed by all parties that the Vietnamese Communist leader, Ho Chi Minh, would be elected president. Secretly, the Eisenhower Administration, with the Dulles brothers, Allen at the CIA and John Foster at State, encouraged the supposedly temporary government in the South to cause the election plan to be aborted (the Republican Right likes that kind of abortion). That they were never held, lead directly to the U.S.-Vietnam War. The U.S. always officially denied that any such interference in Vietnamese domestic affairs ever took place. The U.S. role in all of this could not possibly be termed a conspiracy, could it? In 1954, the democratically elected government of Guatemala's President Jacopo Arbenz was overthrown by a military coup secretly organized by the CIA (another Allen Dulles "triumph"), although it was claimed to be indigenous at the time. The secret U.S. involvement couldn't possibly be termed a conspiracy, could it? In 1961, there was the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. Secretly planned under Eisenhower, it was approved by John Kennedy. If it had not failed, we might never have known of the conspiracy. In the summer of 1962 there was the unannounced assemblage of an invasion fleet along the Southeast coast of the United States in the summer of 1962, presumably aimed at Cuba (although one cannot be sure; Grenada, perhaps?). The invasion plan (if there was one) subsequently aborted by the U.S.-Soviet agreement that ended the Cuban Missile Crisis, which included the hardly-ever-referred-to pledge by the U.S. to abandon all plans to invade Cuba. In this case, because the plan failed, its existence is hardly known of at all (but has been testified to by more than one member of the armed forces at the time). Conspiracies? Nah. In 1962, the Trujillo dictatorship in the Dominican Republic was overthrown, and replaced by democratically elected President Juan Bosch, a moderate left-winger. A military coup unseated Bosch in 1963. It was in turn over-turned in 1965. But a second military coup, in that year, was secretly supported by Lyndon Johnson and was successful. In 1964, Johnson secretly supported a military coup that overthrew the democratically elected Brazilian President Joao Goulart. It stayed in place for about 20 years. Conspiracies? Nah. In 1973, the democratically elected government of President Salvadore Allende of Chile was overthrown in a military coup secretly organized by the U.S., under the leadership of Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and CIA Director Richard Helms. At the time, any and all U.S. participation was denied, even though Kissinger had started a secret anti-Allende campaign even before he took office in 1970. The secret U.S. involvement couldn't possibly be termed a conspiracy, could it? In 1984, the Reagan Administration secretly began organizing an armed opposition aimed at overthrowing the left-wing government of Nicaragua that had taken power following the overthrow of the widely detested dictator, Anastasio Somoza Debayle. Since any such support was prohibited by U.S. law, as is now well-known but by most conveniently forgotten, Reagan's boy Ollie North secretly arranged to sell arms to Iran (at the time on the State Department's own "any-contacts-prohibition" list). This was done in order to raise money "off-the-books" to support the so-called "Contras." The "Iran-Contra" deal and its spawn couldn't possibly be termed a conspiracy, could it? The Georgite invasion of Iraq cannot be properly called a conspiracy for it was based upon a not-so-secret plan for Middle East dominance and petroleum-supply security drawn up by Project for the New American Century in the mid-1990s. However, that plan was nevertheless not acknowledged as having anything to do with the Iraq invasion, and certainly the highly sophisticated plans that were developed to mislead the American people as to the true reasons for the U.S. do indeed constitute a conspiracy, by definition. Finally, there is the possibly grandest of them all, the posited 9-11 conspiracy. We may never get to the bottom of this one, but the work ("Unanswered 9/11 Miracles about to be Answered" http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2009/01/23.html ) of my colleague Allen Rolland, who has the credibility to publish on Salon, is a good place to start. Welcome to the U.S. foreign policy conspiracy archive, folks. It is very well-stocked. This column is based in part on a column of mine that appeared on May 18, 2006 at The Political Junkies.net, which in turn was based on BF Commentary of mine that ran on May 9, 2006. Steven Jonas, MD, MPH is a Professor of Preventive Medicine at Stony Brook University (NY) and author/co-author/editor of 30 books. In addition to being a Columnist for BuzzFlash, Dr. Jonas is also a Contributing Author for TPJmagazine; a Featured Writer for Dandelion Salad; a Special Contributing Editor for Cyrano's Journal Online; a Contributing Columnist for the Project for the Old American Century (POAC); and a Contributor to The Planetary Movement. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hal at drxyzzy.org Thu Jun 4 10:36:51 2009 From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:36:51 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] zooplankton Message-ID: <84DE84D3-5926-4BF8-A2EF-9246D9E5AA3B@drxyzzy.org> Ok, how do we feel about this? How does this rate on a scale of importance next to, say, AIG bonuses, torture, abortion, the Federal Reserve, Ron Paul, health care reform, or Barack Obama's birth certificate? Fall in tiny animals a ?disaster? July 11th, 2008 http://www.earthportal.org/news/?p=1385 BBC News: Experts on invertebrates have expressed ?profound shock? over a government report showing a decline in zooplankton of more than 70% since the 1960s. ?The disappearance of butterflies, moth, bees, riverflies and other small animals is an environmental tragedy. ?But, despite this experience, we were profoundly shocked to read that zooplanktonabundance has declined by about 73% since 1960 and about 50% since 1990. Top of the Food Chain http://www.postcarbon.org/top_food_chain We need to understand that these are food for crustaceans and fish, which are food for sea birds and mammals. We need to appreciate the importance of the oceanic food web in the planetary biosphere. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From welaware at merr.com Thu Jun 4 12:01:58 2009 From: welaware at merr.com (Kris Knight) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:01:58 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] zooplankton In-Reply-To: <84DE84D3-5926-4BF8-A2EF-9246D9E5AA3B@drxyzzy.org> References: <84DE84D3-5926-4BF8-A2EF-9246D9E5AA3B@drxyzzy.org> Message-ID: <613A2033-EDE4-404F-B889-49270DEAEEA2@merr.com> THIS is a far, far more important set of stats, in the long run. The "small stuff" is actually what we are kept our eyes riveted upon through the amazing service-to-self mentality that is rampant in our world, and most especially in this country. thanks for passing this along. People who are PRO-life should undoubtedly find this amazingly concerning...but the buzzword people won't even notice this one, likely. The people who are truly PRO-life and service-to-others get the importance of this immediately.; On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Hal Snyder wrote: > Ok, how do we feel about this? How does this rate on a scale of > importance next to, say, AIG bonuses, torture, abortion, the Federal > Reserve, Ron Paul, health care reform, or Barack Obama's birth > certificate? > > Fall in tiny animals a ?disaster? > July 11th, 2008 > http://www.earthportal.org/news/?p=1385 > > > BBC News: Experts on invertebrates have expressed ?profound shock? > over a government report showing a decline in zooplankton of more > than 70% since the 1960s. > ?The disappearance of butterflies, moth, bees, riverflies and other > small animals is an environmental tragedy. > ?But, despite this experience, we were profoundly shocked to read > that zooplanktonabundance has declined by about 73% since 1960 and > about 50% since 1990. > > Top of the Food Chain > http://www.postcarbon.org/top_food_chain > > We need to understand that these are food for crustaceans and fish, > which are food for sea birds and mammals. We need to appreciate the > importance of the oceanic food web in the planetary biosphere. > _______________________________________________ > CitizensTruth mailing list > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > website: http://citizenstruth.info Kris Knight of WellAware Life Enhancement Center Phone: 1-608-ALL-LIFE welaware at merr.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From futurenotwritten at yahoo.com Thu Jun 4 20:33:27 2009 From: futurenotwritten at yahoo.com (Jay Becker) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CitizensTruth] zooplankton Message-ID: <885865.58836.qm@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What kind of society continues head long to destroy the environmental foundation on which it depends, with all the scientific knowledge and means to measure that very destruction? I think that's more the question to pose for ourselves. Every problem doesn't stem from capitalism but it's the defining barrier to our ability to solve them at this stage in history, and revolution will be the first step to enabling us to deal with this gigantic one! >From a piece by Ray Lotta in Revolution newspaper a few years ago: Capitalism cannot deal with the environment in a sustainable and economically rational way for three basic reasons: First, its logic is ?expand-or-die?: to cheapen cost and to expand in order to wage the competitive battle and gain market share. And unplanned, large-scale, globally-interconnected production poses grave threats to the environment. Second, the horizons of capitalism tend to be short term. They seek to maximize returns quickly. They don?t think about the consequences in 10, 20, 30 years. We see that in the U.S.?they build a nuclear power station because it looks profitable and then, ten years later, they realize, uh-oh, their investment isn?t paying off. And so then they spend more money to try to undo it, and then go in for another big short-term gain somewhere else. Third, capitalist production is by its nature private. The economy is broken up into competing units of capitalist control and ownership over the means of production. And each unit is fundamentally concerned with itself and its expansion and its profit. The economy, the constructed and natural environment, and society cannot be dealt with as a social whole under capitalism. It?s all fragmented into private parts. And each part looks at what lies outside itself as a ?free ride.? An individual capitalist can open a steel mill and be concerned with the cost of that steel mill. But what they do to the air is not ?their cost,? because it?s not part of their sphere of ownership. In mainstream economic theory, this is called ?externality.? So capitalism is incapable of addressing environmental issues outside its framework of private ownership and production for profit, and its blind logic of expansion. And on a world scale, we see the effects. But socialism can address environmental issues in a sustainable, rational, and socially just way: because ownership of the means of production is socialized as expressed through the proletarian state and this makes it possible to consciously plan development; and because economic calculation is radically different. Continues at http://revcom.us/a/052/lottaonevironment.html Jay Stop thinking like an American, Start thinking about humanity! --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Hal Snyder wrote: From: Hal Snyder Subject: [CitizensTruth] zooplankton To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 9:36 AM Ok, how do we feel about this? How does this rate on a scale of importance next to, say, AIG bonuses, torture, abortion, the Federal Reserve, Ron Paul, health care reform, or Barack Obama's birth certificate? Fall in tiny animals a ?disaster? July 11th, 2008http://www.earthportal.org/news/?p=1385 BBC News: Experts on invertebrates have expressed ?profound shock? over a government report showing a decline in?zooplankton?of more than 70% since the 1960s.??The disappearance of butterflies, moth, bees, riverflies and other small animals is an environmental tragedy.?But, despite this experience, we were profoundly shocked to read that?zooplanktonabundance has declined by about 73% since 1960 and about 50% since 1990. Top of the Food Chainhttp://www.postcarbon.org/top_food_chain We need to understand that these are food for crustaceans and fish, which are food for sea birds and mammals. We need to appreciate the importance of the oceanic food web in the planetary biosphere. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ CitizensTruth mailing list CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth website: http://citizenstruth.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mjkirk12 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 5 11:03:01 2009 From: mjkirk12 at yahoo.com (Mike Kirk) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Fw: FBI Arrests Liberty Dollar crew Message-ID: <747518.40462.qm@web83809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Liberty Dollar crew arrested (and released) - Now LD will finally have it's day in court! Reading the charges in the indictment, I am surprised they haven't issued the same to Mr. Bernanke and the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. Cheers, -Mike --- On Fri, 6/5/09, Liberty Dollar wrote: From: Liberty Dollar Subject: FBI Arrests Bernard, Kevin, Sarah & Rachelle To: mjkirk12 at yahoo.com Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 1:38 AM ? LIBERTY DOLLAR ALERT: June 2009 Vol. 11 No. 06-A Urgent News for All Liberty Dollar Supporters! FBI Arrests Bernard, Kevin, Sarah & Rachelle The battle for a value based currency has began! The last two days have been amazing! Just shortly after midnight on Tuesday, the phone started ringing and I let the answering machine take the call. But very soon there was another call? with an even more urgent message! Very quickly, a friend of Kevin Innes, explained to me that Kevin had been "detained" by the local sheriff and was being held for the FBI to arrest him! Holy Cow!! The #2 supporter for the Liberty Dollar and co-instructor at the Liberty Dollar University training sessions was in deep trouble with the Feds! I was sure to be next. But would they arrive in a few minutes or would it be a pre-dawn Nazi style assault? Finally, I got up at 4:00 AM. I was very concerned for Kevin and wondered when the FBI would hit me. Fortunately the morning was quickly filled with a flurry of calls from Kevin's friend, other interested parties, the usual business calls and making preparations for the inevitable knock on the door. But nobody came. Then just after noon, Niles, who's wife, Rachelle, manages the Liberty Dollar Fulfillment Office, called to tell me that Rachelle had been picked up by the FBI at the LD Office and was due to be arraigned in just a few hours! The FBI strikes again! Luckily, I was able to talk to Rachelle via her cell phone while the FBI was holding her. I was pleased that the FBI agents were the friendly professional types and afforded Rachelle and I quite a few minutes of private conversation. Under the circumstances, Rachelle's demeanor and resolve was right on target. And very quickly, I learned that a warrant had been issued for my arrest. And just a quickly, Rachelle was off to court to be arraigned. Much later in the afternoon, I learned to my surprise that three big FBI agents had arrested Sarah at work. She and Rachelle were arraigned together and quickly released to on their own recognizance (OR) before the sun set on a very eventful day for the Liberty Dollar. The quick, professional effort with Sarah and Rachelle were gratifying and encouraging. Unfortunately, I was to learn that Sarah lost her job because of this event. By last afternoon it was clear that the Liberty Dollar would be best served by my turning myself in to the to the US Marshals, otherwise know as 'self reporting.' After a few calls, I found myself talking to Agent Andy (aka Agent F) who was his usual friendly, chatty self. He even recognized my voice although we had only spoken twice and that was over 18 months ago. Sure enough he confirmed that a federal arrest warrant for my arrest had been issued. And after a bit of gamesmanship with Agent Andy, I agreed to report to the US Marshal's office in Fort Myers, Florida at 9:00 AM on Thursday morning as it was too late to be arraigned, plus an overnight in jail would have wrinkled by clothes :) The following morning, Thursday, June 3, 2009, I actually arrived at the Marshal's office at 8:30 due to light traffic. As the saying goes, "If you gotta do time, do federal time." Quite simply, the federal boys are better educated, better trained and have better manners. I was immediately escorted to a holding cell. After an hour or less, I met with the Pre-Trila Service rep and made it to court at 11:00 in chains and handcuffs. The female judge was businesslike and granted my request to attend my son's graduation in Physics from UCLA next week. After fingerprinting, signing a $50,000 Appearance Bond, one final meeting with the Pre-Indictment Service rep, I was free. In general, the arraignment was a pleasant affair. The US Marshals did their job with very little attitude, as they should. After all, I am self reporting, and it is for anything violent, I just want to prove that I have a right to issue my own currency and if any body chooses to use it then it is a "private contract." It is certainly not a crime. And so it came to pass, 2009 years after the birth of Christ, that four regular Americans have taken a stand to defend the People's right to protect themselves from a government currency that has a long and unforgiving history of stealing the people's purchasing power. This is a test of individual rights, as protected by the Tenth Amendment. It is the deciding moment that a private voluntary barter currency (PVBC) is legal in the great United States of America. This is a test that the Liberty Dollar must and will pass, for that I have no doubt. But it will not be easy or cheap. Please, if you support our efforts, support us with any kind of money you have, including pro bono services. Now that the Liberty Dollar faces a federal criminal trial, it is the US Government v Liberty Dollar ala Bernard, Kevin, Sarah & Rachelle. Please help us win. Please help yourself win. Please help American win. Very simply this is a Win or Lose battle. In addition to money for this legal fight we need articles that reference non-government currency, such as Air Miles as currency, legal research assistance, expert witnesses, legal assistance, etc. If you support the ideals of the Liberty Dollar, this is the time to get behind the Liberty Dollar. We critically need your help! Please send your digital info to Legal at LibertyDollar.org and your donations of value including other kinds of "currencies" to: LIBERTY DOLLAR 225 N. Stockwell Road Evansville. Indiana. 47715 The best news is that the Liberty Dollar finally has the opportunity to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is legal. Over two years ago I sued the US government for a Declaratory Judgment to resolve the legality issue. And how did they respond, they raided the Liberty Dollar and confiscated over $4 million dollars in gold, silver and cash. The US government has done everything possible to kill the Liberty Dollar! And guess what? It has not worked. The mere fact that the Liberty Dollar is still in business is a testament to your demand for Real Money and the ideals that the Liberty Dollar represents. Thank you, thank you, thank you for your support! Trust me, the Liberty Dollar is not made up of any fat cats. We are all just regular Americans. And we all just want good money, a lot less government and no damn war! Click HERE for a stilted Press Release by the DOJ. Its three pages with a whopper by Owen Harris, Special FBI Agent in Charlotte who said, "When groups try to replace the US dollar with coins and bills that don't hold the same value..." WOW what a telling statement of pure spin. Click HERE for the 13 page Indictment. Click HERE for Sarah's Arrest Warrant. Guess what?! Liberty Dollar still in business and we need more business! As there has been no Cease and Desist Order, Liberty Dollar remains OPEN FOR BUSINESS. Please visit our shopping cart for all the 2009 Liberty, Peace, Freedom, T-Dollars and more. Don't be bashful or stupid. Silver is going to the moon, just as sure as the US dollar is going to hell with your purchasing power. Now is the time to protect your purchasing with the "inflation proof" currency and help usher in a new monetary model that provides the only proven, peaceful, and profitable solution to the monetary cancer that has infected America. OUTSTANDING ORDERS: Please rest assured that we will fill all outstanding orders. Yes, after producing a sizable amount of pre-minted Silver Libertys and finally getting current with most orders, we changed mints and are now behind again. We apologize emphatically! Poor and/or slow delivery is not acceptable business. It hurts everyone. And just when we were about to get current again we were arrested. Please continue to support us with your patience too. We promise to get every order out ASAP. But as I hope you can understand, it is a struggle to run a business, any business, in such an environment and fight a major legal battle for our right to protect our purchasing power The last few 2009 Arrest Dollars. Are you familiar with the Arrest Dollars? Starting in 2007 and continuing through this year the Arrest Dollar is one ounce Silver Liberty that is specially hand hallmarked with a micro "handcuffs" stamp and my federally registered mintmark. Issued only from the day of the raid to today. The last few 2009 Arrest Dollars are currently on the Shopping Cart. After these are gone, they are gone to eBay for much more money. The 2009 Tea Party Dollar (T-Dollar) is still available and we are still waiting confirmation on the shipment. We are still expecting to have the first batch order in the first 24 HOURS here for the July 4 events. The T-Dollar is still only a buck for an ounce of copper AND you can still get them for 10% discount to they $1 face value for a 100 or more. Hey, they are only a buck? you can't go wrong. Plus every copper issue has sold out. Get these while you can and help support our legal efforts tooJ The 2009 Silver Libertys! The backbone of the Liberty Dollar model is the one ounce .999 fine silver Lib! Just in the last few days, silver has bounced back over $16, soon the 30 day moving average will be $16 and the Liberty Dollar will Move Up again to the $50 Silver Base. PLEASE don't be dumb and buy silver when it is high. Get it NOW!!! Sure it is not $5 per ounce any more, nor will it ever be again. $5 silver is just not possible with the government spending phony baloney fiat money like a drunken sailor. Please order silver now and protect your purchasing power and profit tomorrow! Stay tuned to the Liberty Dollar News as we vindicate and validate the legality of the Liberty Dollar. Please take an active role in this exciting and profitable time. Don't lose out. Get involved with the Liberty Dollar to make money, do good and have fun. I am having as much fun in my 60's and I did in The 60's and hope you are too. Thanks again for your support. Bernard von NotHaus Monetary Architect Editor at LibertyDollar.org www.LibertyDollar.org 888.LIB.DOLLAR 888.421.6181 Click HERE to Subscribe to Future Mailings. To be removed from all future mailings follow the instructions HERE. ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimension04 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 7 15:23:09 2009 From: dimension04 at sbcglobal.net (Connie Smith) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:23:09 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] here's what I sent to local PBS about 9/11 Message-ID: <50583A65340B431D91E6F782E74F8385@InspironConnie> This went to 3 executives. Subject: Denver PBS: 9/11 cover-up is a big hit! Dear WTVP, I wish to share with you this interesting information: KBDI-TV in Denver has re-broadcast the "9/11 Press for Truth" documentary THREE TIMES, due to public excitement and $upport for exposing government and media fallacies about the 9/11 attacks. (Press release is below.) Time Magazine several years ago commented that 9/11 Truth "is no longer a fringe movement." Americans who read the reports out of Florida after 9/11 learned that Mohammed Atta and gang were not "Muslim fundamentalists." Numerous neighbors knew they were drinking, drugging, womanizers whom Allah would NEVER allow into heaven. But the claim that the 9/11 perpetrators were Islamic terrorists "justified" U.S. invasion and occupation of Muslim lands -- and has caused the loss and ruination of many more American lives beyond the initial 3,000. Numerous military Americans uneasily have recognized that the Pentagon, the best billion-dollar-state-of-the-art-defended building on earth, could not possibly have been hit without internal orders to not intercept and otherwise implement standard operating procedures. The Secret Service couldn't possibly have neglected to rush President Bush to safety out of the Florida school -- could not have neglected THEIR standard operating procedures -- unless their orders from headquarters knew that Bush and the children would NOT be targets. And insult to injury? The FBI supervisor who suppressed and deflected all urgent memos from field agents about an impending attack: Afterwards he was promoted instead of fired, and granted a 20%-of-his-salary cash bonus as well. There are MOUNTAINS of well-documented evidence now after 8 years that ONLY high-level U.S. traitors could have planned and carried out the attacks of 9/11. It is time to call them to account. Only one of many hundreds of websites that present the evidence is Patriots Question 9/11. It is comprised of professionals in military, intelligence, government, aviation, architecture, engineering, scholars, and more who urge all honest media to do their job and expose the 9/11 cover-up -- and bring the real murderers to justice. http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/ Now at last -- one PBS station (below) is daring to perform this patriotic duty! Connie Smith Canton IL KBDI Press Release: '9/11 Press for Truth' on Channel 12 Draws Huge Support from Colorado Public Television Viewers Submitted by Michael on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 4:42pm. 9-11 Press for Truth | Colorado 9-11 Visibility | KBDI Denver | PBS Denver Release Date: 06/04/09 Author: J Nagle For immediate release .Photos available at http://www.kbdi.org/about_kbdi/press_room.cfm .See excerpts from Viewer Buzz program comments below '9/11 Press for Truth' on Channel 12 Draws Huge Support from Colorado Public Television Viewers Program will repeat at 2:00, 9:00 and midnight on Saturday DENVER - (June 4, 2009) - KBDI has always been at the forefront of controversial programming and last night was no exception. As the first broadcast station in the United States to air the controversial documentary 9/11Press for Truth, which claims a 9/11 cover-up, KBDI showed that it is not afraid to touch on sensitive subjects. Due to viewer response to the program, Channel 12 will repeat the program Saturday, June 6 at 2 p.m. and 9 p.m., followed by an encore at midnight. During the premiere, Bob McIlvaine, who lost his son Bobby at the World Trade Center, and 9/11Press for Truth producer Kyle Hence and director Ray Nowosielski were in the studio to give more insight into why they believed 9/11 was a cover-up and why the American public should be screaming for answers. Supporters of the documentary hope that because of the risk KBDI took by putting 9/11 Press for Truth on the air that more PBS stations across the nation will take a chance and broadcast the documentary. Press for Truth's producer Kyle Hence already has heard the cries, saying that people from all over the country have been forwarding his e-mails on to their local PBS stations. The program will repeat on Channel 12. A full schedule of air times for all of the programs can be found at www.KBDI.org. ### Excerpts from Viewer Buzz comments at www.KBDI.org "Congratulations and many thanks for your showing of this important film! I can't believe you're the first to broadcast this in the US! We need more people in PBS of your vision and courage! Thanks again. I'm becoming a first time member." "Thank you for taking the risk and having the guts to show this program. Real news and investigative journalism are scarce commodities these days." "Congratulations on airing the program concerning the fallacies that have been promulgated to the American public concerning the history and events of 9/11." "It takes the courage of true patriotism to buck the military, industrial, media mafia. THANK YOU!" ********** About KBDI KBDI has set itself apart with carriage of an unparalleled amount of local public affairs programming. KBDI "community voice" programming engages viewers in community-based discussions of state, national and global issues. KBDI delivers three digital channels: its flagship KBDI broadcast station with a strong mix of local, national and international programming (DT-12.1); The Documentary Channel, featuring the works of independent filmmakers (DT-12.2); and MHz Worldview, a channel providing diverse cultural perspectives for a globally minded audience (DT-12.3). Joseph Nagle, University of Northern Colorado Intern KBDI-Channel 12 (PBS) Marcia Simmons, Marketing Director CO 303-991-5020 (direct); 303-489-4012 (cell) ? Michael's blog | login to post comments | printer friendly version ? login to post comments | 14 points -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mincam2 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 7 15:57:26 2009 From: mincam2 at yahoo.com (Chuck Minne) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 12:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CitizensTruth] here's what I sent to local PBS about 9/11 Message-ID: <39443.44836.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> IMO, perhaps the best speaker on this is Richard Gage founder of Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth.? You can google him and get all sorts of links, he has a great video. Here is one of a TV appearance: ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO2yT0uBQbM ? Independent teams of scientists in both USA and Denmark have found unexploded thermite particles in the dust from the WTC. There is no benign explanation for this, and airliners do not carry thermite which is a high explosive. Then there is this tape of Barry Jennings who experienced both explosions and dead bodies in WTC7 after WTCs 1&2 were hit but BEFORE THEY COLLAPSED. Here is a video of him: ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRaKHq2dfCI ? then there is the molten metal that lasted for at least five weeks in the water-drenched basements of all three WTC buildings. There is no way that jet fuel could have done that. ? Anybody who looks at what I have given above, can deny that the government's explanation is nothing but a series of lies. ? I only mention this because I think what I have given above is much, much stronger than the material you mentioned in your letter. Not that that is not true, it is, but the above is much harder to sweep under the rug. ? ? ? ? ? In the late 1950s,?Curious as to how discoveries about the origin of the universe might affect society as a whole, NASA contracted with the Brookings Institution, a leading think tank, to research the question. Only a small part of its 100-page answer, which came to be known as "The Brookings Report," dealt with alien encounter. But it contained a stern warning. "Anthropological files contain many examples of societies, sure of their place in the universe, which have disintegrated when they had to associate with previously unfamiliar societies espousing different ideas and different life ways; others that survived such an experience usually did so by paying the price of changes in values and attitudes and behavior." It further stated that the discovery might have a devastating effect on scientists themselves due to the discovery that many of their most cherished theories could be at risk. ? Thus all alien and UFO data was denied. Click the following?for ?The Greatest Story Ever Denied --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Connie Smith wrote: From: Connie Smith Subject: [CitizensTruth] here's what I sent to local PBS about 9/11 To: "September 11 List 2" Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 2:23 PM ? ? This went to 3 executives. Subject:? Denver PBS:? 9/11 cover-up is a big hit! ? ? Dear WTVP, ? I wish to share with you this interesting information:? KBDI-TV in Denver has re-broadcast the?"9/11?Press for Truth"?documentary THREE TIMES, due to?public excitement and $upport for?exposing government and media fallacies?about the 9/11 attacks.? (Press release is below.) ? Time Magazine several years ago commented that 9/11 Truth "is no longer a fringe movement." ? Americans who read the reports out of Florida after 9/11 learned that Mohammed Atta and gang were not "Muslim fundamentalists."? Numerous neighbors knew they?were drinking, drugging, womanizers whom Allah would NEVER allow into heaven.? But the claim that the 9/11?perpetrators were Islamic terrorists?"justified" U.S. invasion and occupation of Muslim lands -- and has caused the loss and ruination of many more American lives beyond the initial 3,000. ? Numerous?military Americans uneasily have recognized that the Pentagon, the best billion-dollar-state-of-the-art-defended building?on earth,?could not possibly have been hit without internal orders to not intercept and otherwise implement standard operating procedures. ? The Secret Service couldn't possibly have?neglected to rush?President Bush to safety?out of the Florida school --? could not have neglected THEIR standard operating procedures --?unless?their orders from headquarters?knew that?Bush and the children would?NOT be targets. ? And insult to injury?? The FBI supervisor who suppressed and deflected all urgent memos from field agents about an impending attack:? Afterwards he was promoted instead of fired, and granted a 20%-of-his-salary cash bonus as well.? ? There are MOUNTAINS of well-documented evidence now after 8 years that ONLY high-level U.S. traitors could have planned and carried out the attacks of 9/11.? It is time to call them to account. ? Only one of many hundreds of websites that present the evidence is Patriots Question 9/11.? It is?comprised of professionals in military, intelligence, government, aviation, architecture, engineering, scholars,?and more who urge all honest media to do their job and expose the 9/11 cover-up -- and bring the real murderers to justice. http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/ ? Now at last -- one PBS station (below)?is daring to perform this?patriotic duty! ? Connie Smith Canton IL KBDI Press Release: ?9/11 Press for Truth? on Channel 12 Draws Huge Support from Colorado Public Television Viewers Submitted by Michael on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 4:42pm. 9-11 Press for Truth | Colorado 9-11 Visibility | KBDI Denver | PBS Denver Release Date: 06/04/09 Author: J Nagle For immediate release ?Photos available at http://www.kbdi.org/about_kbdi/press_room.cfm ?See excerpts from Viewer Buzz program comments below ?9/11 Press for Truth? on Channel 12 Draws Huge Support from Colorado Public Television Viewers Program will repeat at 2:00, 9:00 and midnight on Saturday DENVER ? (June 4, 2009) ? KBDI has always been at the forefront of controversial programming and last night was no exception. As the first broadcast station in the United States to air the controversial documentary 9/11Press for Truth, which claims a 9/11 cover-up, KBDI showed that it is not afraid to touch on sensitive subjects. Due to viewer response to the program, Channel 12 will repeat the program Saturday, June 6 at 2 p.m. and 9 p.m., followed by an encore at midnight. During the premiere, Bob McIlvaine, who lost his son Bobby at the World Trade Center, and 9/11Press for Truth producer Kyle Hence and director Ray Nowosielski were in the studio to give more insight into why they believed 9/11 was a cover-up and why the American public should be screaming for answers. Supporters of the documentary hope that because of the risk KBDI took by putting 9/11 Press for Truth on the air that more PBS stations across the nation will take a chance and broadcast the documentary. Press for Truth?s producer Kyle Hence already has heard the cries, saying that people from all over the country have been forwarding his e-mails on to their local PBS stations. The program will repeat on Channel 12. A full schedule of air times for all of the programs can be found at www.KBDI.org. ### Excerpts from Viewer Buzz comments at www.KBDI.org ?Congratulations and many thanks for your showing of this important film! I can't believe you're the first to broadcast this in the US! We need more people in PBS of your vision and courage! Thanks again. I'm becoming a first time member.? ?Thank you for taking the risk and having the guts to show this program. Real news and investigative journalism are scarce commodities these days.? ?Congratulations on airing the program concerning the fallacies that have been promulgated to the American public concerning the history and events of 9/11.? ?It takes the courage of true patriotism to buck the military, industrial, media mafia. THANK YOU!? ********** About KBDI KBDI has set itself apart with carriage of an unparalleled amount of local public affairs programming. KBDI "community voice" programming engages viewers in community-based discussions of state, national and global issues. KBDI delivers three digital channels: its flagship KBDI broadcast station with a strong mix of local, national and international programming (DT-12.1); The Documentary Channel, featuring the works of independent filmmakers (DT-12.2); and MHz Worldview, a channel providing diverse cultural perspectives for a globally minded audience (DT-12.3). Joseph Nagle, University of Northern Colorado Intern KBDI-Channel 12 (PBS) Marcia Simmons, Marketing Director CO 303-991-5020 (direct); 303-489-4012 (cell) ? 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Hal Begin forwarded message: > From: Meria's Mailing List > Date: June 7, 2009 2:05:11 PM CDT > > New show on site at the sample/free show www.Meria.net > Todays show has a surprise at the beginning. > In July Meria begins her 10th year on the net bringing the > information we need to know, not necessarily what we want to know. > If you want to know how we arrived at the point we are in as a > country and people, there are 3,000 plus hours on site to explain > it. There is an introductory subscription for new subscribers on > site - $10 for one month of full access to the entire site. It's > time to get the education and then get into action. We've forgotten > that our government works for us, not the transnationals or > lobbyists. To make them accountable, we need to know for what. > Enjoy todays show with Bill Black, it's an eye opener for sure: > > Meria Interviews Bill Black, Asso. Professor of Economics & Law, > Missouri-Kansas, white collar criminologist and former financial > regulator recently seen on Bill Moyers. Failing banks - the tip of > the iceberg; should we have bailed out AIG? Who did AIG bail out > with our money? Can we prosecute CEO?s? Can we recover? housing - > the usual financial bubble; the S&L crisis; optimized fraud; FBI in > 2004 warned of epidemic of mortgage fraud; fraud from the top down; > 30-45% under water in their mortgages; corrupt lenders; recession > and prime loans; Geithner continued Bush?s bad policies; > Privitization - Fannie, Freddie & Who else? the Glass Steagall Act; > we need a Pecora investigation; deregulation; Bernanke; Greenspan; > the Federal Reserve - shouldn?t be a private entity; Bush & Obama > fought showing us who we bailed out (Goldman Sachs, Foreign banks, > etc); ?state socialism for the rich, led by capitalists?; what we > can do. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimension04 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 7 18:10:41 2009 From: dimension04 at sbcglobal.net (Connie Smith) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:10:41 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] here's what I sent to local PBS about 9/11 In-Reply-To: <39443.44836.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <39443.44836.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7EF038203D26403D9524E842959DA559@InspironConnie> Thanks, I see your reasoning. But I quit a while back spending my limited time distributing to media whatever the Latest Best is -- and I do agree that Gage is a "best." I've been sure about a hundred times since 2002 that THIS TIME they can't ignore THIS, as the 9/11-truth-journey has unfolded for me -- but -- they always did ignore it. (Except for a number of letters-to-editor I've had published.) Although come to think of it, when the thermite-dust proof came out a short while ago, I DID resume some media contacts. But -- as usual -- nothing. I fantasize that some of those guys at least have a big file somewhere where they put aside some of the volumes of data I used to send -- "just in case." ("Press for Truth" by the way, I recall being good, but so many other facts and presentations are indeed better!) But I now think that Bush and Cheney could come out holding hands and admitting, "Okay, okay, folks, we did 9/11" -- but unless a significant media outlet broadcasted it, we'd never even see THAT! So again, with my limited time (lots of family illness to tend to and my own not-so-great health anymore) -- for me it's not worthwhile to contact media unless they can see that some OTHER cows in the herd might start stampeding towards 9/11 Truth. The Denver PBS multiple broadcasts and their $uccessful reception is the ONLY thing local PBS (significant media) might take seriously. So that's what I chose to send and why I chose to send it. Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Minne To: September 11 List 2 ; Connie Smith Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] here's what I sent to local PBS about 9/11 IMO, perhaps the best speaker on this is Richard Gage founder of Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth. You can google him and get all sorts of links, he has a great video. Here is one of a TV appearance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO2yT0uBQbM Independent teams of scientists in both USA and Denmark have found unexploded thermite particles in the dust from the WTC. There is no benign explanation for this, and airliners do not carry thermite which is a high explosive. Then there is this tape of Barry Jennings who experienced both explosions and dead bodies in WTC7 after WTCs 1&2 were hit but BEFORE THEY COLLAPSED. Here is a video of him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRaKHq2dfCI then there is the molten metal that lasted for at least five weeks in the water-drenched basements of all three WTC buildings. There is no way that jet fuel could have done that. Anybody who looks at what I have given above, can deny that the government's explanation is nothing but a series of lies. I only mention this because I think what I have given above is much, much stronger than the material you mentioned in your letter. Not that that is not true, it is, but the above is much harder to sweep under the rug. In the late 1950s, Curious as to how discoveries about the origin of the universe might affect society as a whole, NASA contracted with the Brookings Institution, a leading think tank, to research the question. Only a small part of its 100-page answer, which came to be known as "The Brookings Report," dealt with alien encounter. But it contained a stern warning. "Anthropological files contain many examples of societies, sure of their place in the universe, which have disintegrated when they had to associate with previously unfamiliar societies espousing different ideas and different life ways; others that survived such an experience usually did so by paying the price of changes in values and attitudes and behavior." It further stated that the discovery might have a devastating effect on scientists themselves due to the discovery that many of their most cherished theories could be at risk. Thus all alien and UFO data was denied. Click the following for The Greatest Story Ever Denied --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Connie Smith wrote: From: Connie Smith Subject: [CitizensTruth] here's what I sent to local PBS about 9/11 To: "September 11 List 2" Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 2:23 PM This went to 3 executives. Subject: Denver PBS: 9/11 cover-up is a big hit! Dear WTVP, I wish to share with you this interesting information: KBDI-TV in Denver has re-broadcast the "9/11 Press for Truth" documentary THREE TIMES, due to public excitement and $upport for exposing government and media fallacies about the 9/11 attacks. (Press release is below.) Time Magazine several years ago commented that 9/11 Truth "is no longer a fringe movement." Americans who read the reports out of Florida after 9/11 learned that Mohammed Atta and gang were not "Muslim fundamentalists." Numerous neighbors knew they were drinking, drugging, womanizers whom Allah would NEVER allow into heaven. But the claim that the 9/11 perpetrators were Islamic terrorists "justified" U.S. invasion and occupation of Muslim lands -- and has caused the loss and ruination of many more American lives beyond the initial 3,000. Numerous military Americans uneasily have recognized that the Pentagon, the best billion-dollar-state-of-the-art-defended building on earth, could not possibly have been hit without internal orders to not intercept and otherwise implement standard operating procedures. The Secret Service couldn't possibly have neglected to rush President Bush to safety out of the Florida school -- could not have neglected THEIR standard operating procedures -- unless their orders from headquarters knew that Bush and the children would NOT be targets. And insult to injury? The FBI supervisor who suppressed and deflected all urgent memos from field agents about an impending attack: Afterwards he was promoted instead of fired, and granted a 20%-of-his-salary cash bonus as well. There are MOUNTAINS of well-documented evidence now after 8 years that ONLY high-level U.S. traitors could have planned and carried out the attacks of 9/11. It is time to call them to account. Only one of many hundreds of websites that present the evidence is Patriots Question 9/11. It is comprised of professionals in military, intelligence, government, aviation, architecture, engineering, scholars, and more who urge all honest media to do their job and expose the 9/11 cover-up -- and bring the real murderers to justice. http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/ Now at last -- one PBS station (below) is daring to perform this patriotic duty! Connie Smith Canton IL KBDI Press Release: ?9/11 Press for Truth? on Channel 12 Draws Huge Support from Colorado Public Television Viewers Submitted by Michael on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 4:42pm. 9-11 Press for Truth | Colorado 9-11 Visibility | KBDI Denver | PBS Denver Release Date: 06/04/09 Author: J Nagle For immediate release ?Photos available at http://www.kbdi.org/about_kbdi/press_room.cfm ?See excerpts from Viewer Buzz program comments below ?9/11 Press for Truth? on Channel 12 Draws Huge Support from Colorado Public Television Viewers Program will repeat at 2:00, 9:00 and midnight on Saturday DENVER ? (June 4, 2009) ? KBDI has always been at the forefront of controversial programming and last night was no exception. As the first broadcast station in the United States to air the controversial documentary 9/11Press for Truth, which claims a 9/11 cover-up, KBDI showed that it is not afraid to touch on sensitive subjects. Due to viewer response to the program, Channel 12 will repeat the program Saturday, June 6 at 2 p.m. and 9 p.m., followed by an encore at midnight. During the premiere, Bob McIlvaine, who lost his son Bobby at the World Trade Center, and 9/11Press for Truth producer Kyle Hence and director Ray Nowosielski were in the studio to give more insight into why they believed 9/11 was a cover-up and why the American public should be screaming for answers. Supporters of the documentary hope that because of the risk KBDI took by putting 9/11 Press for Truth on the air that more PBS stations across the nation will take a chance and broadcast the documentary. Press for Truth?s producer Kyle Hence already has heard the cries, saying that people from all over the country have been forwarding his e-mails on to their local PBS stations. The program will repeat on Channel 12. A full schedule of air times for all of the programs can be found at www.KBDI.org. ### Excerpts from Viewer Buzz comments at www.KBDI.org ?Congratulations and many thanks for your showing of this important film! I can't believe you're the first to broadcast this in the US! We need more people in PBS of your vision and courage! Thanks again. I'm becoming a first time member.? ?Thank you for taking the risk and having the guts to show this program. Real news and investigative journalism are scarce commodities these days.? ?Congratulations on airing the program concerning the fallacies that have been promulgated to the American public concerning the history and events of 9/11.? ?It takes the courage of true patriotism to buck the military, industrial, media mafia. THANK YOU!? ********** About KBDI KBDI has set itself apart with carriage of an unparalleled amount of local public affairs programming. KBDI "community voice" programming engages viewers in community-based discussions of state, national and global issues. KBDI delivers three digital channels: its flagship KBDI broadcast station with a strong mix of local, national and international programming (DT-12.1); The Documentary Channel, featuring the works of independent filmmakers (DT-12.2); and MHz Worldview, a channel providing diverse cultural perspectives for a globally minded audience (DT-12.3). Joseph Nagle, University of Northern Colorado Intern KBDI-Channel 12 (PBS) Marcia Simmons, Marketing Director CO 303-991-5020 (direct); 303-489-4012 (cell) ? Michael's blog | login to post comments | printer friendly version ? login to post comments | 14 points -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ CitizensTruth mailing list CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth website: http://citizenstruth.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mincam2 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 7 23:34:16 2009 From: mincam2 at yahoo.com (mincam2 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 20:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CitizensTruth] here's what I sent to local PBS about 9/11 Message-ID: <994162.41361.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I happen to be an engineer who is signed up on the A&E 911?list. I was called by a woman representing their group. Their goal is to sign up enough A&Es to make a "impressive" presentation to Congress. I asked her what made her think that Congress was on our side. That stumped her. ? It is my belief that everyone who is anybody in the government, media, military, and demolition circles knows that it was controlled demolition and an inside job. Of course they all deny it. Why not? Can you imagine running for office on the platform that 911 was an inside job? Can you imagine coming out in the media and saying it? The lie is being embraced KNOWINGLY by more people than you can imagine. ? Scientists refuse to look at it - they are "too busy." They know it can't be explained by the government's theory, and they are not going to get caught up in any controversy. Jobs and careers are at stake and they are not going to be risked. Frankly, from the business standpoint, Denver PBS goofed - they went where it was unwise to go, and other "credible" media just won't go there. do you think the Ford Foundation (for example,) wants this investigated? Of course not. ? If you think your congressman doesn't know the truth, you are just kidding yourself. Your fire chief probably knows, but he ain't saying a word - unless he's chanting the party line. ? It's not like the "important" people don't know. they do, but they have absolutely no incentive to rock the boat, and in most cases just the opposite is true. ? Here is a good link telling how there are 242,000 contractors working for the US on our two wars. Do you think any of them wants a 911 expose? ? http://www.truthout.org/060609A ? ? ? ? ? In the late 1950s,?Curious as to how discoveries about the origin of the universe might affect society as a whole, NASA contracted with the Brookings Institution, a leading think tank, to research the question. Only a small part of its 100-page answer, which came to be known as "The Brookings Report," dealt with alien encounter. But it contained a stern warning. "Anthropological files contain many examples of societies, sure of their place in the universe, which have disintegrated when they had to associate with previously unfamiliar societies espousing different ideas and different life ways; others that survived such an experience usually did so by paying the price of changes in values and attitudes and behavior." It further stated that the discovery might have a devastating effect on scientists themselves due to the discovery that many of their most cherished theories could be at risk. ? Thus all alien and UFO data was denied. Click the following?for ?The Greatest Story Ever Denied --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Connie Smith wrote: From: Connie Smith Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] here's what I sent to local PBS about 9/11 To: "Chuck Minne" , "September 11 List 2" Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 5:10 PM ? ? Thanks, I see your reasoning.? But I quit a?while back spending my limited time?distributing to media whatever the Latest Best is -- and I do agree that Gage is a "best."? I've been?sure about a hundred times since 2002?that THIS TIME they can't ignore THIS, as the 9/11-truth-journey has unfolded for me -- but -- they always did ignore it. (Except for a number of letters-to-editor I've had published.) ? Although come to think of it, when the thermite-dust proof came out a short while ago, I DID resume some media contacts.? But -- as usual -- nothing.?? I fantasize that some of those guys at least have a big file somewhere where they put aside?some of?the volumes of data I?used to send?--?"just in case." ?("Press for Truth" by the way, I recall being good, but so many other facts and presentations?are indeed better!) ? But I now think that Bush and Cheney could come out holding hands and admitting, "Okay, okay, folks, we did 9/11" -- but?unless a significant media outlet broadcasted it, we'd never even see THAT!? ? So again, with my limited time (lots of family illness to tend to?and my own not-so-great health anymore) -- for me it's not worthwhile to contact media unless they can see that some?OTHER cows in the herd might start stampeding towards 9/11 Truth.? The Denver PBS multiple broadcasts and their $uccessful reception is the ONLY thing local PBS (significant media) might take seriously.? So that's what I chose to send and why I chose to send it. ? Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Minne To: September 11 List 2 ; Connie Smith Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] here's what I sent to local PBS about 9/11 IMO, perhaps the best speaker on this is Richard Gage founder of Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth.? You can google him and get all sorts of links, he has a great video. Here is one of a TV appearance: ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO2yT0uBQbM ? Independent teams of scientists in both USA and Denmark have found unexploded thermite particles in the dust from the WTC. There is no benign explanation for this, and airliners do not carry thermite which is a high explosive. Then there is this tape of Barry Jennings who experienced both explosions and dead bodies in WTC7 after WTCs 1&2 were hit but BEFORE THEY COLLAPSED. Here is a video of him: ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRaKHq2dfCI ? then there is the molten metal that lasted for at least five weeks in the water-drenched basements of all three WTC buildings. There is no way that jet fuel could have done that. ? Anybody who looks at what I have given above, can deny that the government's explanation is nothing but a series of lies. ? I only mention this because I think what I have given above is much, much stronger than the material you mentioned in your letter. Not that that is not true, it is, but the above is much harder to sweep under the rug. ? ? ? ? ? In the late 1950s,?Curious as to how discoveries about the origin of the universe might affect society as a whole, NASA contracted with the Brookings Institution, a leading think tank, to research the question. Only a small part of its 100-page answer, which came to be known as "The Brookings Report," dealt with alien encounter. But it contained a stern warning. "Anthropological files contain many examples of societies, sure of their place in the universe, which have disintegrated when they had to associate with previously unfamiliar societies espousing different ideas and different life ways; others that survived such an experience usually did so by paying the price of changes in values and attitudes and behavior." It further stated that the discovery might have a devastating effect on scientists themselves due to the discovery that many of their most cherished theories could be at risk. ? Thus all alien and UFO data was denied. Click the following?for ?The Greatest Story Ever Denied --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Connie Smith wrote: From: Connie Smith Subject: [CitizensTruth] here's what I sent to local PBS about 9/11 To: "September 11 List 2" Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 2:23 PM ? ? This went to 3 executives. Subject:? Denver PBS:? 9/11 cover-up is a big hit! ? ? Dear WTVP, ? I wish to share with you this interesting information:? KBDI-TV in Denver has re-broadcast the?"9/11?Press for Truth"?documentary THREE TIMES, due to?public excitement and $upport for?exposing government and media fallacies?about the 9/11 attacks.? (Press release is below.) ? Time Magazine several years ago commented that 9/11 Truth "is no longer a fringe movement." ? Americans who read the reports out of Florida after 9/11 learned that Mohammed Atta and gang were not "Muslim fundamentalists."? Numerous neighbors knew they?were drinking, drugging, womanizers whom Allah would NEVER allow into heaven.? But the claim that the 9/11?perpetrators were Islamic terrorists?"justified" U.S. invasion and occupation of Muslim lands -- and has caused the loss and ruination of many more American lives beyond the initial 3,000. ? Numerous?military Americans uneasily have recognized that the Pentagon, the best billion-dollar-state-of-the-art-defended building?on earth,?could not possibly have been hit without internal orders to not intercept and otherwise implement standard operating procedures. ? The Secret Service couldn't possibly have?neglected to rush?President Bush to safety?out of the Florida school --? could not have neglected THEIR standard operating procedures --?unless?their orders from headquarters?knew that?Bush and the children would?NOT be targets. ? And insult to injury?? The FBI supervisor who suppressed and deflected all urgent memos from field agents about an impending attack:? Afterwards he was promoted instead of fired, and granted a 20%-of-his-salary cash bonus as well.? ? There are MOUNTAINS of well-documented evidence now after 8 years that ONLY high-level U.S. traitors could have planned and carried out the attacks of 9/11.? It is time to call them to account. ? Only one of many hundreds of websites that present the evidence is Patriots Question 9/11.? It is?comprised of professionals in military, intelligence, government, aviation, architecture, engineering, scholars,?and more who urge all honest media to do their job and expose the 9/11 cover-up -- and bring the real murderers to justice. http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/ ? Now at last -- one PBS station (below)?is daring to perform this?patriotic duty! ? Connie Smith Canton IL KBDI Press Release: ?9/11 Press for Truth? on Channel 12 Draws Huge Support from Colorado Public Television Viewers Submitted by Michael on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 4:42pm. 9-11 Press for Truth | Colorado 9-11 Visibility | KBDI Denver | PBS Denver Release Date: 06/04/09 Author: J Nagle For immediate release ?Photos available at http://www.kbdi.org/about_kbdi/press_room.cfm ?See excerpts from Viewer Buzz program comments below ?9/11 Press for Truth? on Channel 12 Draws Huge Support from Colorado Public Television Viewers Program will repeat at 2:00, 9:00 and midnight on Saturday DENVER ? (June 4, 2009) ? KBDI has always been at the forefront of controversial programming and last night was no exception. As the first broadcast station in the United States to air the controversial documentary 9/11Press for Truth, which claims a 9/11 cover-up, KBDI showed that it is not afraid to touch on sensitive subjects. Due to viewer response to the program, Channel 12 will repeat the program Saturday, June 6 at 2 p.m. and 9 p.m., followed by an encore at midnight. During the premiere, Bob McIlvaine, who lost his son Bobby at the World Trade Center, and 9/11Press for Truth producer Kyle Hence and director Ray Nowosielski were in the studio to give more insight into why they believed 9/11 was a cover-up and why the American public should be screaming for answers. Supporters of the documentary hope that because of the risk KBDI took by putting 9/11 Press for Truth on the air that more PBS stations across the nation will take a chance and broadcast the documentary. Press for Truth?s producer Kyle Hence already has heard the cries, saying that people from all over the country have been forwarding his e-mails on to their local PBS stations. The program will repeat on Channel 12. A full schedule of air times for all of the programs can be found at www.KBDI.org. ### Excerpts from Viewer Buzz comments at www.KBDI.org ?Congratulations and many thanks for your showing of this important film! I can't believe you're the first to broadcast this in the US! We need more people in PBS of your vision and courage! Thanks again. I'm becoming a first time member.? ?Thank you for taking the risk and having the guts to show this program. Real news and investigative journalism are scarce commodities these days.? ?Congratulations on airing the program concerning the fallacies that have been promulgated to the American public concerning the history and events of 9/11.? ?It takes the courage of true patriotism to buck the military, industrial, media mafia. THANK YOU!? ********** About KBDI KBDI has set itself apart with carriage of an unparalleled amount of local public affairs programming. KBDI "community voice" programming engages viewers in community-based discussions of state, national and global issues. KBDI delivers three digital channels: its flagship KBDI broadcast station with a strong mix of local, national and international programming (DT-12.1); The Documentary Channel, featuring the works of independent filmmakers (DT-12.2); and MHz Worldview, a channel providing diverse cultural perspectives for a globally minded audience (DT-12.3). Joseph Nagle, University of Northern Colorado Intern KBDI-Channel 12 (PBS) Marcia Simmons, Marketing Director CO 303-991-5020 (direct); 303-489-4012 (cell) ? 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URL: From geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com Mon Jun 8 13:19:35 2009 From: geri at thetwofacesofmoney.com (Geri Perry) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:19:35 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] New documentary Food Inc to be released June 19 Message-ID: <4A2D4827.6060009@thetwofacesofmoney.com> FYI, New documentary film, coming out June 19 looks quite good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAQS6xkmrfk&feature=related Schedule and Release info: http://robertkennerfilms.com/ gerip From hal at drxyzzy.org Tue Jun 9 09:55:04 2009 From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:55:04 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] New documentary Food Inc to be released June 19 In-Reply-To: <4A2D4827.6060009@thetwofacesofmoney.com> References: <4A2D4827.6060009@thetwofacesofmoney.com> Message-ID: <5AC1D69E-7373-416F-8F1D-3283CE63B892@drxyzzy.org> The opening of Food, Inc. (at the link below) has an eerie Tim Burton / Danny Elfman feel. Looks intriguing. Speaking of food, there will be a program of short selections on Slow Food and Slow Money in Palatine this Friday. http://citizenstruth.info/afdfilms/ On Jun 8, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Geri Perry wrote: > FYI, > > New documentary film, coming out June 19 looks quite good: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAQS6xkmrfk > > Schedule and Release info: http://robertkennerfilms.com/ From mincam2 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 9 23:48:59 2009 From: mincam2 at yahoo.com (mincam2 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CitizensTruth] The strangest monument in America Message-ID: <20308.91172.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/ff_guidestones?currentPage=all American Stonehenge: Monumental Instructions for the Post-Apocalypse By Randall Sullivan 04.20.09 ? ? The Georgia Guidestones may be the most enigmatic monument in the US: huge slabs of granite, inscribed with directions for rebuilding civilization after the apocalypse. Only one man knows who created them?and he's not talking. Photo:?Dan Winters The Georgia Guidestones Guidebook ? The strangest monument in America looms over a barren knoll in northeastern Georgia. Five massive slabs of polished granite rise out of the earth in a star pattern. The rocks are each 16 feet tall, with four of them weighing more than 20 tons apiece. Together they support a 25,000-pound capstone. Approaching the edifice, it's hard not to think immediately of England's Stonehenge or possibly the ominous monolith from 2001: A Space Odyssey. Built in 1980, these pale gray rocks are quietly awaiting the end of the world as we know it. ? Called the Georgia Guidestones, the monument is a mystery?nobody knows exactly who commissioned it or why. The only clues to its origin are on a nearby plaque on the ground?which gives the dimensions and explains a series of intricate notches and holes that correspond to the movements of the sun and stars?and the "guides" themselves, directives carved into the rocks. These instructions appear in eight languages ranging from English to Swahili and reflect a peculiar New Age ideology. Some are vaguely eugenic (guide reproduction wisely?improving fitness and diversity); others prescribe standard-issue hippie mysticism (prize truth?beauty?love?seeking harmony with the infinite). ? What's most widely agreed upon?based on the evidence available?is that the Guidestones are meant to instruct the dazed survivors of some impending apocalypse as they attempt to reconstitute civilization. Not everyone is comfortable with this notion. A few days before I visited, the stones had been splattered with polyurethane and spray-painted with graffiti, including slogans like "Death to the new world order." This defacement was the first serious act of vandalism in the Guidestones' history, but it was hardly the first objection to their existence. In fact, for more than three decades this uncanny structure in the heart of the Bible Belt has been generating responses that range from enchantment to horror. Supporters (notable among them Yoko Ono) have praised the messages as a stirring call to rational thinking, akin to Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason. Opponents have attacked them as the Ten Commandments of the Antichrist. ? Whoever the anonymous architects of the Guidestones were, they knew what they were doing: The monument is a highly engineered structure that flawlessly tracks the sun. It also manages to engender endless fascination, thanks to a carefully orchestrated aura of mystery. And the stones have attracted plenty of devotees to defend against folks who would like them destroyed. Clearly, whoever had the monument placed here understood one thing very well: People prize what they don't understand at least as much as what they do. ? The story of the Georgia Guidestones began on a Friday afternoon in June 1979, when an elegant gray-haired gentleman showed up in Elbert County, made his way to the offices of Elberton Granite Finishing, and introduced himself as Robert C. Christian. He claimed to represent "a small group of loyal Americans" who had been planning the installation of an unusually large and complex stone monument. Christian had come to Elberton?the county seat and the granite capital of the world?because he believed its quarries produced the finest stone on the planet. ? Joe Fendley, Elberton Granite's president, nodded absently, distracted by the rush to complete his weekly payroll. But when Christian began to describe the monument he had in mind, Fendley stopped what he was doing. Not only was the man asking for stones larger than any that had been quarried in the county, he also wanted them cut, finished, and assembled into some kind of enormous astronomical instrument. ? What in the world would it be for? Fendley asked. Christian explained that the structure he had in mind would serve as a compass, calendar, and clock. It would also need to be engraved with a set of guides written in eight of the world's major languages. And it had to be capable of withstanding the most catastrophic events, so that the shattered remnants of humanity would be able to use those guides to reestablish a better civilization than the one that was about to destroy itself. ? Monumental Precision Built to survive the apocalypse, the Georgia Guidestones are not merely instructions for the future?the massive granite slabs also function as a clock, calendar, and compass. ? 1. The monument sits at the highest point in Elbert County and is oriented to track the sun's east-west migration year-round. ? ? 2. On an equinox or solstice, visitors who stand at the west side of the "mail slot" are positioned to see the sun rise on the horizon. ? ? 3. An eye-level hole drilled into the center support stone allows stargazers on the south side to locate Polaris, the North Star. ? ? 4. A 7/8-inch hole drilled through the capstone focuses a sunbeam on the center column and at noon pinpoints the day of the year. Text: Erik Malinowski; illustration: Steve Sanford Fendley is now deceased, but shortly after the Guidestones went up, an Atlanta television reporter asked what he was thinking when he first heard Christian's plan. "I was thinking, 'I got a nut in here now. How am I going get him out?'" Fendley said. He attempted to discourage the man by quoting him a price several times higher than for any project commissioned there before. The job would require special tools, heavy equipment, and paid consultants, Fendley explained. But Christian merely nodded and asked how long it would take. Fendley didn't rightly know?six months, at least. He wouldn't be able to even consider such an undertaking, he added, until he knew it could be paid for. When Christian asked whether there was a banker in town he considered trustworthy, Fendley saw his chance to unload the strange man and sent him to look for Wyatt Martin, president of the Granite City Bank. ? The tall and courtly Martin?the only man in Elberton besides Fendley known to have met R. C. Christian face-to-face?is now 78. "Fendley called me and said, 'A kook over here wants some kind of crazy monument,'" Martin says. "But when this fella showed up he was wearing a very nice, expensive suit, which made me take him a little more seriously. And he was well-spoken, obviously an educated person." Martin was naturally taken aback when the man told him straight out that R. C. Christian was a pseudonym. He added that his group had been planning this secretly for 20 years and wanted to remain anonymous forever. "And when he told me what it was he and this group wanted to do, I just about fell over," Martin says. "I told him, 'I believe you'd be just as well off to take the money and throw it out in the street into the gutters.' He just sort of looked at me and shook his head, like he felt kinda sorry for me, and said, 'You don't understand.'" ? Martin led Christian down the street to the town square, where the city had commissioned a towering Bicentennial Memorial Fountain, which included a ring of 13 granite panels, each roughly 2 by 3 feet, signifying the original colonies. "I told him that was about the biggest project ever undertaken around here, and it was nothing compared to what he was talking about," Martin says. "That didn't seem to bother him at all." Promising to return on Monday, the man went off to charter a plane and spend the weekend scouting locations from the air. "By then I half believed him," Martin says. ? When Christian came back to the bank Monday, Martin explained that he could not proceed unless he could verify the man's true identity and "get some assurance you can pay for this thing." Eventually, the two negotiated an agreement: Christian would reveal his real name on the condition that Martin promise to serve as his sole intermediary, sign a confidentiality agreement pledging never to disclose the information to another living soul, and agree to destroy all documents and records related to the project when it was finished. "He said he was going to send the money from different banks across the country," Martin says, "because he wanted to make sure it couldn't be traced. He made it clear that he was very serious about secrecy." ? Before leaving town, Christian met again with Fendley and presented the contractor with a shoe box containing a wooden model of the monument he wanted, plus 10 or so pages of detailed specifications. Fendley accepted the model and instructions but remained skeptical until Martin phoned the following Friday to say he had just received a $10,000 deposit. After that, Fendley stopped questioning and started working. "My daddy loved a challenge," says Fendley's daughter, Melissa Fendley Caruso, "and he said this was the most challenging project in the history of Elbert County." ? Construction of the Guidestones got under way later that summer. Fendley's company lovingly documented the progress of the work in hundreds of photographs. Jackhammers were used to gouge 114 feet into the rock at Pyramid Quarry, searching for hunks of granite big enough to yield the final stones. Fendley and his crew held their breath when the first 28-ton slab was lifted to the surface, wondering if their derricks would buckle under the weight. A special burner (essentially a narrowly focused rocket motor used to cut and finish large blocks of granite) was trucked to Elberton to clean and size the stones, and a pair of master stonecutters was hired to smooth them. ? Fendley and Martin helped Christian find a suitable site for the Guidestones in Elbert County: a flat-topped hill rising above the pastures of the Double 7 Farms, with vistas in all directions. For $5,000, owner Wayne Mullinex signed over a 5-acre plot. In addition to the payment, Christian granted lifetime cattle-grazing rights to Mullinex and his children, and Mullinex's construction company got to lay the foundation for the Guidestones. ? With the purchase of the land, the Guidestones' future was set. Christian said good-bye to Fendley at the granite company office, adding, "You'll never see me again." Christian then turned and walked out the door?without so much as a handshake. ? >From then on, Christian communicated solely through Martin, writing a few weeks later to ask that ownership of the land and monument be transferred to Elbert County, which still holds it. Christian reasoned that civic pride would protect it over time. "All of Mr. Christian's correspondence came from different cities around the country," Martin says. "He never sent anything from the same place twice." ? ?Daybreak: A carefully cut slot in the Guidestones' center column frames the sunrise on solstices and equinoxes. Photo: Dan Winters ? The astrological specifications for the Guidestones were so complex that Fendley had to retain the services of an astronomer from the University of Georgia to help implement the design. The four outer stones were to be oriented based on the limits of the sun's yearly migration. The center column needed two precisely calibrated features: a hole through which the North Star would be visible at all times, and a slot that was to align with the position of the rising sun during the solstices and equinoxes. The principal component of the capstone was a 7\8-inch aperture through which a beam of sunlight would pass at noon each day, shining on the center stone to indicate the day of the year. ? The main feature of the monument, though, would be the 10 dictates carved into both faces of the outer stones, in eight languages: English, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Arabic, Hebrew, Hindi, and Swahili. A mission statement of sorts (let these be guidestones to an age of reason) was also to be engraved on the sides of the capstone in Egyptian hieroglyphics, classical Greek, Sanskrit, and Babylonian cuneiform. The United Nations provided some of the translations (including those for the dead languages), which were stenciled onto the stones and etched with a sandblaster. ? By early 1980, a bulldozer was scraping the Double 7 hilltop to bedrock, where five granite slabs serving as a foundation were laid out in a paddle-wheel design. A 100-foot-tall crane was used to lift the stones into place. Each of the outer rocks was 16 feet 4 inches high, 6 feet 6 inches wide, and 1 foot 7 inches thick. The center column was the same (except only half the width), and the capstone measured 9 feet 8 inches long, 6 feet 6 inches wide, and 1 foot 7 inches thick. Including the foundation stones, the monument's total weight was almost 240,000 pounds. Covered with sheets of black plastic in preparation for an unveiling on the vernal equinox, the Guidestones towered over the cattle that continued to graze beneath it at the approach of winter's end. ? The monument ignited controversy before it was even finished. The first rumor began among members of the Elberton Granite Association, jealous of the attention being showered on one of their own: Fendley was behind the whole thing, they said, aided by his friend Martin, the banker. The gossip became so poisonous that the two men agreed to take a lie detector test at the Elberton Civic Center. The scandal withered when The Elberton Star reported that they had both passed convincingly, but the publicity brought a new wave of complaints. As word of what was being inscribed spread, Martin recalls, even people he considered friends asked him why he was doing the devil's work. A local minister, James Travenstead, predicted that "occult groups" would flock to the Guidestones, warning that "someday a sacrifice will take place here." Those inclined to agree were hardly discouraged by Charlie Clamp, the sandblaster charged with carving each of the 4,000-plus characters on the stones: During the hundreds of hours he spent etching the guides, Clamp said, he had been constantly distracted by "strange music and disjointed voices." The team that built the Guidestones didn't know who was financing the project?just that it was the biggest monument in county history. Local banker Wyatt Martin inspects the English lettering with sandblaster Charlie Clamp before the 1980 unveiling. Photo: Courtesy of Fendley Enterprises Inc. ? The unveiling on March 22, 1980, was a community celebration. Congressmember Doug Barnard, whose district contained Elberton, addressed a crowd of 400 that flowed down the hillside and included television news crews from Atlanta. Soon Joe Fendley was the most famous Elbertonian since Daniel Tucker, the 18th-century minister memorialized in the folk song "Old Dan Tucker." Bounded by the Savannah and Broad rivers but miles from the nearest interstate?"as rural as rural can be," in the words of current Star publisher Gary Jones?Elberton was suddenly a tourist destination, with visitors from all over the world showing up to see the Guidestones. "We'd have people from Japan and China and India and everywhere wanting to go up and see the monument," Martin says. And Fendley's boast that he had "put Elberton on the map" was affirmed literally in spring 2005, when National Geographic Traveler listed the Guidestones as a feature in its Geotourism MapGuide to Appalachia. ? But many who read what was written on the stones were unsettled. Guide number one was, of course, the real stopper: maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. There were already 4.5 billion people on the planet, meaning eight out of nine had to go (today it would be closer to 12 out of 13). This instruction was echoed and expanded by tenet number two: guide reproduction wisely?improving fitness and diversity. It didn't take a great deal of imagination to draw an analogy to the practices of, among others, the Nazis. Guide number three instructed readers to unite humanity with a living new language. This sent a shiver up the spine of local ministers who knew that the Book of Revelations warned of a common tongue and a one-world government as the accomplishments of the Antichrist. Guide number four?rule passion?faith?tradition?and all things with tempered reason?was similarly threatening to Christians committed to the primacy of faith over all. The last six guides were homiletic by comparison. protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. avoid petty laws and useless officials. balance personal rights with social duties. prize truth?beauty?love?seeking harmony with the infinite. be not a cancer on the earth?leave room for nature?leave room for nature. ? Even as locals debated the relative merits of these commandments, the dire predictions of Travenstead seemed to be coming true. Within a few months, a coven of witches from Atlanta adopted the Guidestones as their home away from home, making weekend pilgrimages to Elberton to stage various pagan rites ("dancing and chanting and all that kind of thing," Martin says) and at least one warlock-witch marriage ceremony. No humans were sacrificed on the altar of the stones, but there are rumors that several chickens were beheaded. A 1981 article in the monthly magazine UFO Report cited Naunie Batchelder (identified in the story as "a noted Atlanta psychic") as predicting that the true purpose of the guides would be revealed "within the next 30 years." Viewed from directly overhead, the Guidestones formed an X, the piece in UFO Report observed, making for a perfect landing site. ? Visitors kept coming, but after several failed investigations into the identity of R. C. Christian, the media lost interest. Curiosity flared again briefly in 1993, when Yoko Ono contributed a track called "Georgia Stone" to a tribute album for avant-garde composer John Cage, with Ono chanting the 10th and final guide nearly verbatim: "Be not a cancer on Earth?leave room for nature?leave room for nature." A decade later, however, when comedienne Roseanne Barr tried to work a bit on the Guidestones into her comeback tour, nobody seemed to care. ? Christian kept in touch with Martin, writing the banker so regularly that they became pen pals. Occasionally, Christian would call from a pay phone at the Atlanta airport to say he was in the area, and the two would rendezvous for dinner in the college town of Athens, a 40-mile drive west of Elberton. By this time, Martin no longer questioned Christian's secrecy. The older man had successfully deflected Martin's curiosity when the two first met, by quoting Henry James' observations of Stonehenge: "You may put a hundred questions to these rough-hewn giants as they bend in grim contemplation of their fallen companions, but your curiosity falls dead in the vast sunny stillness that enshrouds them." Christian "never would tell me a thing about this group he belonged to," Martin says. The banker received his last letter from Christian right around the time of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and assumes the man?who would have been in his mid-eighties?has since passed away. ? Joe Fendley of Elberton Granite Finishing posing with his masterpiece. Photo: Courtesy of Fendley Enterprises Inc. ? The mysterious story of R. C. Christian and the absence of information about the true meaning of the Guidestones was bound to become an irresistible draw for conspiracy theorists and "investigators" of all kinds. Not surprisingly, three decades later there is no shortage of observers rushing to fill the void with all sorts of explanations. Among them is an activist named Mark Dice, author of a book called The Resistance Manifesto. In 2005, Dice (who was using a pseudonym of his own?"John Conner"?appropriated from the Terminator franchise's main character) began to demand that the Guidestones be "smashed into a million pieces." He claims that the monument has "a deep Satanic origin," a stance that has earned him plenty of coverage, both in print and on the Web. According to Dice, Christian was a high-ranking member of "a Luciferian secret society" at the forefront of the New World Order. "The elite are planning to develop successful life-extension technology in the next few decades that will nearly stop the aging process," Dice says, "and they fear that with the current population of Earth so high, the masses will be using resources that the elite want for themselves. The Guidestones are the New World Order's Ten Commandments. They're also a way for the elite to get a laugh at the expense of the uninformed masses, as their agenda stands as clear as day and the zombies don't even notice it." ? Ironically, Dice's message has mainly produced greater publicity for the Guidestones. This, in turn, has brought fresh visitors to the monument and made Elbert County officials even less inclined to remove the area's only major tourist attraction. ? Phyllis Brooks, who runs the Elbert County Chamber of Commerce, pronounced herself aghast last November when the Guidestones were attacked by vandals for the first time ever. While Dice denies any involvement in the assault, he seems to have inspired it: Spray-painted on the stones were messages like "Jesus will beat u satanist" and "No one world government." Other defacements asserted that the Council on Foreign Relations is "ran by the devil," that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job, and that President Obama is a Muslim. The vandals also splashed the Guidestones with polyurethane, which is much more difficult to remove than paint. Despite the graffiti's alignment with his views, Dice says he disapproves of the acts. "A lot of people were glad such a thing happened and saw it as standing up against the New World Order," Dice says, "while others who are unhappy with the stones saw the actions as counterproductive and inappropriate." Martin winces every time he hears Dice's "Luciferian secret society" take on the Guidestones. But while he disagrees, he also admits that he doesn't know for sure. "All I can tell you is that Mr. Christian always seemed a very decent and sincere fella to me." ? A worker uses a special burner to finish a slab of Pyramid Blue granite. Photo: Courtesy of Fendley Enterprises Inc. ? Dice, of course, is far from the only person with a theory about the Guidestones. Jay Weidner, a former Seattle radio commentator turned erudite conspiracy hunter, has heavily invested time and energy into one of the most popular hypotheses. He argues that Christian and his associates were Rosicrucians, followers of the Order of the Rosy Cross, a secret society of mystics that originated in late medieval Germany and claim understanding of esoteric truths about nature, the universe, and the spiritual realm that have been concealed from ordinary people. Weidner considers the name R. C. Christian an homage to the legendary 14th-century founder of the Rosicrucians, a man first identified as Frater C.R.C. and later as Christian Rosenkreuz. Secrecy, Weidner notes, has been a hallmark of the Rosicrucians, a group that announced itself to the world in the early 17th century with a pair of anonymous manifestos that created a huge stir across Europe, despite the fact that no one was ever able to identify a single member. While the guides on the Georgia stones fly in the face of orthodox Christian eschatology, they conform quite well to the tenets of Rosicrucianism, which stress reason and endorse a harmonic relationship with nature. ? Weidner also has a theory about the purpose of the Guidestones. An authority on the hermetic and alchemical traditions that spawned the Rosicrucians, he believes that for generations the group has been passing down knowledge of a solar cycle that climaxes every 13,000 years. During this culmination, outsize coronal mass ejections are supposed to devastate Earth. Meanwhile, the shadowy organization behind the Guidestones is now orchestrating a "planetary chaos," Weidner believes, that began with the recent collapse of the US financial system and will result eventually in major disruptions of oil and food supplies, mass riots, and ethnic wars worldwide, all leading up to the Big Event on December 21, 2012. "They want to get the population down," Weidner says, "and this is what they think will do it. The Guidestones are there to instruct the survivors." ? On hearing Weidner's ideas, Martin shakes his head and says it's "the sort of thing that makes me want to tell people everything I know." Martin has long since retired from banking and no longer lives in Elberton, yet he's still the Guidestones' official?and only?secret-keeper. "But I can't tell," the old man quickly adds. "I made a promise." Martin also made a promise to destroy all the records of his dealings with Christian, though he hasn't kept that one?at least not yet. In the back of his garage is a large plastic bin (actually, the hard-sided case of an IBM computer he bought back in 1983) stuffed with every document connected to the Guidestones that ever came into his possession, including the letters from Christian. ? For years Martin thought he might write a book, but now he knows he probably won't. What he also won't do is allow me to look through the papers. When I ask whether he's prepared to take what he knows to his grave, Martin replies that Christian would want him to do just that: "All along, he said that who he was and where he came from had to be kept a secret. He said mysteries work that way. If you want to keep people interested, you can let them know only so much." The rest is enshrouded in the vast sunny stillness. ? ? ? In the late 1950s,?Curious as to how discoveries about the origin of the universe might affect society as a whole, NASA contracted with the Brookings Institution, a leading think tank, to research the question. Only a small part of its 100-page answer, which came to be known as "The Brookings Report," dealt with alien encounter. But it contained a stern warning. "Anthropological files contain many examples of societies, sure of their place in the universe, which have disintegrated when they had to associate with previously unfamiliar societies espousing different ideas and different life ways; others that survived such an experience usually did so by paying the price of changes in values and attitudes and behavior." It further stated that the discovery might have a devastating effect on scientists themselves due to the discovery that many of their most cherished theories could be at risk. ? Thus all alien and UFO data was denied. Click the following?for ?The Greatest Story Ever Denied -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r.gillam at comcast.net Wed Jun 10 22:59:44 2009 From: r.gillam at comcast.net (Ragen Gillam) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:59:44 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Why the Present Depression Will be Deeper than the Great Crash of 1929 Message-ID: <20090611025953.32FDF6DAFD@six.pairlist.net> Why the Present Depression Will Be Deeper than the Great Crash of 1929 (June 4, 2009) Galbraith's conclusions about the causes of the Great Depression point to why the current Depression will be deeper. Continuing our analysis of The Great Crash of 1929 by John Kenneth Galbraith: by understanding the causes of the Great Depression as elucidated by Galbraith, we can observe the differences between the present and 1929. These reveal why today's Depression will be even deeper than the 1929-1941 one and why today's policy "fixes" as pursued by that great student of Depression, Ben Bernanke, are fighting the last war--a Keynesian stimulus strategy doomed to catastrophic failure. I hesitate to call this topic "important" because such announcements instantly cut my readership in half. Thus I am inclined to call this topic "edgy," "explosive" and "contrarian," all of which sound more interesting than "important" (yawn). Galbraith begins his exploration of causes by noting that "economics does not allow final answers on these matters. But, as usual, something can be said." First, he demolishes the notion that abundant credit caused a speculative orgy. The long-accepted explanation that credit was easy and so people were impelled to borrow money to buy common stocks on margin is obviously nonsense. (page 169) On numerous occasions before and since credit has been easy, and there has been no speculation whatever. Furthermore, much of the 1928 and 1929 speculation occured on money borrowed at interest rates which would have been considered especially astringent. Far more important that rate of interest and supply of the credit is the mood. Speculation on a large scale requires a pervasive sense of confidence and optimism and conviction that ordinary people were meant to be rich. (emphasis added, CHS) Next, Galbraith looks to the wellspring of credit which has been virtually nonexistent in our current speculative boom: savings. (Or at least domestic i.e. U.S. savings.) Savings must also be plentiful. If savings are growing rapidly, people will place a lower marginal value on their accumulation; they will be willing to risk some of it against the prospect of a greatly enhanced return. Speculative excess is somewhat self-regulating--or should be unless manipulated by the very state which is pledged to protect the economy from such excesses. Galbraith notes: Finally, a speculative outbreak has a greater or less immunizing effect. The ensuing collapse automatically destroys the very mood speculation requires. Moving from the causes of speculative excess to that of Depression, Galbraith rejects a cyclical cause: "No inevitable rhythm required the collapse and stagnation of 1930-1940." As for the business cycle--expansion of plant, credit and inventory once over-extended, requires a contraction to restore balance--Galbraith grants it viability, but he rejects it as the cause of the Depression: In 1929 the labor force was not tired; it could have continued to produce indefinitely at the best 1929 rate. The capital plant of the country was not depleted. In the preceding years of prosperity, plant had been renewed and improved. Finally, the high production of the twenties did not, as some have suggested, outrun the wants of the people. There is no evidence that their desire for automobiles, clothing, travel. recreation or even food was sated. A depression was not needed so that people's wants could catch up to their capacity to produce. So then what did trigger the Great Depression? Galbraith sets aside the speculative collapse itself for a moment and digs for problems in the real economy. He begins by noting worker productivity rose by 43% between 1919 and 1929 even as wages, salaries and prices all remained comparatively stable. This enabled increasing profits, which due to the large income disparities of the era, flowed largely to the well-to-do. What did the wealthy do with this new-found capital? A large and increasing investment in capital goods was a principal device by which the profits were spent. (page 175) It follows that anything that interrupted the investment outlays--anything, indeed, which kept them from showing the neessary rate of increase--could cause trouble. The effect, therefore of insufficient investment--investment that failed to keep pace with the steady increase in profits--could be falling total demand reflected in turn in falling orders and output. As I understand this, the proximate cause was a vast income disparity which placed much of the prosperous era's profits in the hands of a small wealthy class, who then mal-invested the profits. If that isn't ringing some bells in your head, then please recall that income disparity, which fell from 1946-1970 or so, has been rising ever since. Bingo--profits flowed increasingly into the hands of a elite wealthy class who then squandered/mal-invested the vast profits, undermining the entire economy. Galbraith then turns to the causal relations between the collapse of the speculative stock market and the ensuing Depression. Once again, Galbraith fingers income disparity: 5% of the populace garnered a full third of personal income. This highly unequal income distribution meant that the economy was dependent on a high level of investment or a high level of luxury consumer spending or both. The rich cannot buy great quantities of bread. If they are to dispose of what they receive it must be luxuries or by way of investment in new plants and new projects. As the stock market crashed, those with the most to lose--the wealthy--found their cashflow and capital massively crimped. Since the entire economy was dependent on them spending and investing freely, the economy crashed, too. You see where this leads in terms of the 1990s-2006 boom. The stupendous profits skimmed in the great dot-com boom flowed disproportionately into a few hands, who then mal-invested the gains (in a macro context) in a completely unproductive burst of overbuilt housing and commercial real estate. The ensuing bubble drew in all those who in Galbraith's words believed they deserved to be rich and as those hapless speculators crashed they took the entire middle class of homeowners with them. Galbraith also fingers two other causes of the Great Depression: Faulty corporate structure and flawed banking structure. The parallels to the present are achingly obvious; here's Galbraith's terse description: The fact was that American enterprise in the twenties had opened its hospitable arms to an exceptional number of promoters, grafters, swindlers, imposters and frauds. This, in in the long history of such activities, was a kind of flood tide of corporate larceny. As gargantuan as the flood of corporate larceny was in the 20s, the present era certainly exceeds it by a large margin. Here is Galbraith's trenchant comment about the banking practices of the 20s: Since the early 30s, a generation of Americans has been told, sometimes with amusement, sometimes with indignation, often with outrage, of the banking practices of the late 20s. In fact, many of those practices were made ludicrous only by the depression. Loans which would have been pefectly good were made perfectly foolish by the collapse of the value of the collateral he had posted. The same, I fear, cannot said of the present: millions of guaranteed-to-default mortgages made to impossibly unqualified borrowers were never good nor prudent. The same can also be said of millions of auto/truck loans, millions of credit cards, millions of home equity lines of credit, etc. Even worse, of course, the banks of the present era achieved heights of leverage via off-balance sheet derivatives, the securitization of mortgages and other financial legerdemaine that even the greediest, most venal bankers of the 20s could not even imagine. Lastly, Galbraith blames "the dubious state of the foreign balance," i.e. the imbalance of foreign trade and flow of funds. In 1929, the problem seems to be that the U.S. was a magnet for capital inflows even as it managed a trade surplus. That imbalance doomed the global economy. Now of course we face the opposite imbalance but the same result will follow: the U.S. continues to run a staggering, unprecendented trade imbalance even as it sucks up an unprecedented share of global capital/savings. Galbraith concludes: "Had the economy been fundamentally sound in 1929 the effect of the great stock market crash might have been small. But business in 1929 was not sound; on the contrary it was exceedingly fragile. It was vulnerable to the kind of blow it received from Wall Street." You mean like the evaporation of $12 trillion wealth we've just experienced in the U.S.? But the present is far more fragile and vulnerable than the U.S. economy of 1929, for the following reasons. In 1955 Galbraith could not possibly have foreseen or anticipated these current conditions: 1. A Federal government which since the "Reagan Revolution" of 1981 (e.g. don't tax and spend, just borrow and spend) has borrowed during so-called good times on a scale once reserved for rare Keynesian stimulus to combat serious recession. Thus we find ourselves at unprecedented levels of debt (comparable in terms of GDP to the entire cost of World War II) and our current Depression has barely begun. 2. A corrupt-to-the-core corporate structure riddled with bogus accounting, reliance on financial trickery for profits and misdirected/worthless regulatory oversight. 3. A banking sector of such debauchery and fraud that the excesses of the 1920s are reduced to the pranks of slighty-naughty choirboys and girls. 4. A Federal system of entitlements (Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security) which has grown far faster than the underlying economy for decades and now threatens the very solvency of the government itself, so stupendous are the future obligations. 5. A global military hegemony which costs more than all the other militarys and intelligence operations of the entire world put together. The U.S. military consumes more oil than the nation of Sweden (9 million residents). 6. An industrial, transportation and energy infrastructure that, rather than being rebuilt during the past 26 years of debt-based "prosperity," has crumbled in a long decline. Rather than invest in electrical power grids and energy-efficient transport systems, the U.S. squandered the trillions of borrowed dollars on toys, gewgaws, electronics made elsewhere, malls and commercial towers with only transient value and millions of bloated, inefficient poorly constructed homes no one needed or could afford: "assets" which were not productive at all, "assets" which are now capital traps on a scale heretofore unimaginable 7. A paucity of U.S. savings (and thus of domestic capital) with only one historical parallel: the depths of the Great Depression when unemployment was 25%. 8. A huge reliance on financial leverage, debt, borrowing and trickery for corporate profits; the U.S. exports soybeans, increasingly worthless dollars and "financial innovations" which are now exploding in economies from Ireland to India with the destructive force of superweapons. In exchange for this dubious paper, we have accepted actual tangible goods from the rest of the world. They are now slowly waking up to the fact they've been conned on a scale few can grasp. 9. Globalization has reworked the global supply chain in an astonishingly brief period of time. As a result, the arbitrage of currencies (foreign exchange a.k.a. forex), wages, governance (less is more profitable) and environmental regulations (zero is the most profitable) have all placed advanced post-industrial economies like the U.S. at great structural disadvantages. 10. The U.S. claims to be competitive but much of this competitiveness is highly selective and thus illusory. Everything in the U.S.--labor, goods, buildings and taxes--is high-cost, overregulated (except for finance, banking and governance) and vulnerable to unpredictable lawsuits and officially sanctioned looting. Other than recent immigrants, non-U.S. employers find the workforce is often surly, unappreciative, narcissistic, entitlement-obsessed, unhealthy, poorly educated, unmotivated and more inclined to get-rich-quick schemes than actual enterprise or productivity. The middle management labors under impossible demands to enrich stockholders next quarter and heavy turnover insures few stay in any job long enough to learn it effectively. Team cooperation is a doublespeak fraud imposed by "facilitators," creating a phony work environment where employees and managers alike pretend to care. This bogus environment breeds a looting, game-the-system mentality in which everyone is grabbing for all they can before retirement, restructuring, reassignment, resignation or getting fired. A "quarterly profits are God" mentality reduces the workforce (even the good workers) to units of input which are pared back or hired without regard to morale or loyalty. This managerial and cultural pathology makes a mockery of worker loyalty and breeds the very qualities of distrust and "I got mine" attitude which undermines both productivity and workplace happiness. 11. Last but certainly not least, the U.S. economy is highly depedent on cheap, abundant fossil fuels--the very fuels which are in the global depletion phase, happy stories about unlimited natural gas and tar sands to the contrary. For all these reasons, we can anticipate the Depression currently unfolding will be deeper, longer and more destructive than the Great Depression. Let's recount the chain of events which partly parallel the Great Depression and partly diverge in meaningfully more destructive ways from that previous era: 1. The postwar income convergence (i.e the rise of the great middle class, the reduction of poverty and the relative reduction of the Plutocracy's share of national income) reverses in the early 1970s as the "true prosperity" of the postwar era ends and is replaced by income flowing increasingly to the top as stagflation, globalization and the decline of dollar gut the purchasing power of the middle class. 2. The rising productivity of the 50s and 60s slips to the flatline through the 70s and early 80s, only picking up again as computer software and hardware revolutionize the back office, sales, manufacturing, just-in-time shipping/production, etc. 3. Concurrent with this gradual return to productivity is the rise of finance as the key profit-center of corporate America. As income skews ever more heavily to the top 1%/5%, then capital (productive assets) become ever more heavily concentrated in the hands of the financial Plutocracy. The top 1% now owns some 2/3 of the nation's entire productive wealth. 4. As profits rise (from rising productivity) then the profits flow not to wages (which remain flat to down 1975-2009 for all but the top 10% professional class) but to those who own the capital. 5. As the middle class experiences a decline in their income and purchasing power (for reasons cited above: declining dollar, rising income disparity, and wages falling due to global wage arbitrage) then they turn more and more to borrowing and ever greater debt to fund what they have been brainwashed by the media to believe is "the American dream" of imported luxury goods, bloated homes, vacuous cruises, etc. The only other mechanism available to the middle class to increase household income is for Mom/Aunt/Grandmom to enter the workforce, which she does in the tens of millions, with sociological consequences which are still unfolding. 6. This advert/media-driven desire to borrow to fund the "good life" is hugely profitable to the money-center banks, which expand rapidly into mortgage securization, derivatives and consumer credit to the point that they come to dominate corporate profits. 7. The financial Plutocracy, observing that actually producing goods is not very profitable unless you can fix prices as per ADM (Archer Daniels Midlands) or gain government subsidies and tax giveaways (oil lease depreciation, etc.) sinks its capital into the FIRE economy (finance, insurance and real estate), eschewing real-world investments as comparatively unprofitable. Though rarely noted, this is a longstanding trait of capitalism stretching back to 1400-era Venice. When trade became less profitable than mainland farmimg, the Venetian Elite stopped funding trading and bought farms on the mainland. As a side effect, Venice ceased to be a military and trading power. But the Elite remained immensely wealthy. 8. As the tech bubble expands, middle-class investors see the Plutocracy (those with enough capital to qualify as angel investors and vulture, oops, I mean venture capital) reaping huge gains, and they enter the dot-com stock bubble buildup with a vengeance. 9. In a happy accident, the Soviet Empire collapses just as productivity begins its computer-fueled rise in the U.S. In a so-called Unipolar World in which U.S. military, political and financial influence is unrivaled, non-U.S. investors seek the relative safety and high returns (based on appreciation of the dollar) of U.S. financial instruments. 10. The dot-com bubble implodes in a speculative meltdown (dot-bomb), and retail investors (a.k.a. the middle class 401K investors) are devastated. The ephemeral wealth they once possessed, however briefly, fuels their speculative desire to get into the next get-rich-quick game, which just so happens to be "something everyone understands:" real estate and housing. 11. Having exhausted the dot-com play, Elite capital is seeking a new high-profit home. The miracles of derivatives (CDOs, credit default swaps, etc.) and securitized debt (mortgage tranches, etc.) open up vast new opportunities for leverage, off-balance sheet shenanigans and outright fraud/debauchery of credit. As chip wafer plants disappear from Silicon Valley (too dirty, too costly, etc.) then they're replaced with paper: mortgage-backed securities. 12. Sniffing gold in them thar exurban hills, the under-capitalized and over-indebted U.S. working class and middle class reach for the chalice of easy-money gold: leveraged real estate. 13. With the Federal financial regulatory agencies in a Republican/Democrat-enforced somnambulance, the coast is clear for brigands, shysters, fraudsters, con artists, liars, cheats, and assorted riff-raff in the realtor, mortgage and appraisal businesses, who all feed the ravenous maw of the money-center banks' apparently limitless appetite for real estate assets to securitize and leverage in exotic and highly profitable ways. 14. For a wonderful five years circa 2001-2006, the game is afoot and no-down-payment Jill and $100 million bonus Jack are immensely enriched. Meanwhile, the underlying real economy is becoming ever more imbalanced and ever more fragile as real production and real productivity plummet as everyone rushes to the speculative riches of exurban McMansions and malls. 15. This last best speculative leveraged bubble pops, gutting a Wall Street which had grown utterly dependent on leverage, debt, gamed/fraudulent accounting and bubbles for its rising profits. 16. Doubly devastated by the implosion of housing and their stock investments (mostly in retirement funds), the middle class faces the terrible consequences of its 26-year stupor of ever-rising debt and leverage. Alas, the Emperor's clothes are revealed as remarkably transparent. 17. Just as in the Great Depression, to its great surprise, the Elite has also suffered catastrophic losses and declines in capital and income. 18. Having borrowed and squandered trillions of dollars since 1981 on unaffordable entitlements, military misadventures and assorted worthless bridges-to-nowhere pork spending, the Federal government (The Fed and the Treasury) finds that its ability to borrow its way out of its current debt hole somewhat annoyingly limited. The rest of the world has finally caught on to the con, and Chinese university students are openly mocking Treasury Secretary Geithner's Orwellian claim of "we support a strong dollar." The miracle is that he was not pelted with tomatoes and tarred and feathered for making such absurd statements. 19. With the global media concentrated in a scant few corporate hands (less than 10), this pulling away of the curtain is deleted/excised from media coverage in a ruthless campaign of pure "green shoots" propaganda. 20. As the wheels fall off the U.S. economy and the bubbles cannot be re-inflated, fruitless attempts at holding back the tide with incantations (stop, tide, I am Obama/Geithner/Bernanke!) and loopy sand castles (the bottom is in, buy now! Green shoots are sprouting everywhere except in the real economy!) abound. Unresponsive to propaganda, the real world grinds down into a global Depression without visible end. Is this "edgy" enough to be worthy? I hope so. Of Two Minds is now available via Kindle: Of Two Minds blog-Kindle Of Two Minds reader forum (hosted offsite, reader moderated) _____ "This guy is THE leading visionary on reality. 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Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 846 bytes Desc: not available Url : From rmigalla at earthlink.net Thu Jun 11 05:30:12 2009 From: rmigalla at earthlink.net (Robin Migalla) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:30:12 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] On the lighter side Message-ID: <01C9EA4D.50890C30.rmigalla@earthlink.net> Hello Everyone, I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that totally put a smile on my face - "Imagine a functional government." I was even lucky enough to be side-by-side at a light with the vehicle and the driver and I were able to share a smile together. Shift happens one bumper sticker at a time. Cheers, Robin From mjkirk12 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 11 09:45:08 2009 From: mjkirk12 at yahoo.com (Mike Kirk) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Grandma tazered in Texas Message-ID: <655752.4280.qm@web83812.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8094210.stm Everybody sing! Oh, Grandma got tazered by a policeman, Driving home from our house Sunday eve. You can say there's no such thing as torture, But as for me and Grandpa, we believe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandma_Got_Run_Over_by_a_Reindeer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r.gillam at comcast.net Thu Jun 11 13:04:04 2009 From: r.gillam at comcast.net (Ragen Gillam) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:04:04 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] 1918 Epidemic Message-ID: <20090611170416.AFDE56D9C8@six.pairlist.net> Below is an excerpt from the book "The Silent Killer " by E. McBean THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28) Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive nation-wide vaccine campaign. The doctors told the people that the disease was caused by germs. Viruses were not known at that time or they would have been blamed. Germs. bacteria and viruses, along with bacilli and a few other invisible organisms are the scapegoats which the doctors like to blame for the things they do not understand. If the doctor makes a wrong diagnosis and treatment, and kills the patient, he can always blame it on the germs,and say the patient didnt get an early diagnosis and come to him in time. If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that it suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers were returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the known vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison drugs and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the common talk of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots than by enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. The death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times higher than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the vaccine promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was continued doggedly. It was a shorter war than the vaccine-makers had planned on, only about a year for us, so the vaccine promoters had a lot of unused, spoiling vaccines left over which they wanted to sell at a good profit. So they did what they usually do, they called a meeting behind closed doors, and plotted the whole sordid program, a nationwide (worldwide) vaccination drive using all their vaccines, and telling the people that the soldiers were coming home with many dread diseases contracted in foreign countries and that it was the patriotic duty of every man, woman and child to get "protected" by rushing down to the vaccination centers and having all the shots. Most people believe their doctors and government officials, and do what they say. The result was, that almost the entire population submitted to the shots without question, and it was only a matter of hours until people began dropping dead in agony, while many others collapsed with a disease of such virulence that no one had ever seen anything like it before. They had all the characteristics of the diseases they had been vaccinated against, the high fever, chills, pain, cramps, diarrhea, etc. of typhoid, and the pneumonia- like lung and throat congestion of diphtheria and the vomiting, headache, weakness and misery of hepatitis from the jungle fever shots, and the outbreak of sores on the skin from the smallpox shots, along with paralysis from all the shots, etc. The doctors were baffled, and claimed they didn't know what caused the strange and deadly disease, and they certainly had no cure. They should have known the underlying cause was the vaccinations, because the same thing happened to the soldiers after they had their shots at camp. The typhoid fever shots caused a worse form of the disease which they called para-typhoid. Then they tried to suppress the symptoms of that one with a stronger vaccine which caused a still more serious disease which killed and disabled a great many men. The combination of all the poison vaccines fermenting together in the body, caused such violent reactions that they could not cope with the situation. Disaster ran rampant in the camps. Some of the military hospitals were filled with nothing but paralyzed soldiers, and they were called war casualties, even before they left American soil. I talked to some of the survivors of that vaccine onslaught when they returned home after the war, and they told of the horrors, not of the war itself, and battles, but of the sickness at camp. The doctors didnt want this massive vaccine disease to reflect on them, so they agreed among themselves to call it Spanish Influenza. Spain was a far away place and some of the soldiers had been there, so the idea of calling it Spanish Influenza seemed to be a good way to lay the blame on someone else. The Spanish resented having us name the world scourge on them. They knew the flu didnt originate in their country. 20,000,000 died of that flu epidemic, worldwide, and it seemed to be almost universal or as far away as the vaccinations reached. Greece and a few other countries which did not accept the vaccines were the only ones which were not hit by the flu. Doesnt that prove something? At home (in the U.S.) the situation was the same; the only ones who escaped the influenza were those who had refused the vaccinations. My family and I were among the few who persisted in refusing the high pressure sales propaganda ,and none of us had the flu not even a sniffle, in spite of the fact that it was all around us, and in the bitter cold of winter. Everyone seemed to have it. The whole town was down sick and dying. The hospitals were closed because the doctors and nurses were down with the flu. Everything was closed, schools, businesses, post office everything. No one was on the streets. It was like a ghost town. There were no doctors to care for the sick, so my parents went from house to house doing what they could to help the stricken in any way they could. They spent all day and part of the night for weeks, in the sick rooms, and came home only to eat and sleep. If germs or viruses, bacteria, or any other little organisms were the cause of that disease, they had plenty of opportunity to latch onto my parents and "lay them low" with the disease which had prostrated the world. But germs were not the cause of that or any other disease, so they didnt "catch" it. I have talked to a few other people since that time, who said they escaped the 1918 flu, so I asked if they had the shots, and in every case, they said they had never believed in shots and had never had any of them. Common sense tells us that all those toxic vaccines all mixed up together in people, could not help but cause extreme body-poisoning and poisoning of some kind or another is usually the cause of disease. Whenever a person coughs or sneezes, most people cringe, thinking that the germs are being spread around in the au and will attack people. There is no need to fear those germs any more, because that is not the way colds are developed. Germs cant live apart from the cells (host) and cant do harm anyway, even if they wanted to. They have no teeth to bite anyone, no poison pouches like snakes, mosquitoes or bees, and do not multiply, except in decomposed substances, so they are helpless to harm. As stated before, their purpose is useful, not destructive. The 1918 flu was the most devastating disease we ever had, and it brought forth all the medical bag of tricks to quell it, but those added drugs, all of which are poisons, only intensified the over-poisoned condition of the people, so the treatments actually killed more than the vaccines did. 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With that number, we should be comfortably above the 30,000 valid signatures needed for City Council to consider the referendum. As of now our planned date of submission is Wednesday, June 17! It's becoming real, folks. Now, for some important details if you are wondering how the process will work from here: -City Council could okay the placement of the referendum on the ballot without NYC CAN needing to submit additional signatures. -In the event that City Council vetoes it, or they take no action within 60 days, NYC CAN will come in with an additional 15,000 signatures to override City Council and guarantee the referendum goes on the ballot. These signatures will be collected over the next two months. -Supposing many more than 30,000 of our first 50,000 signatures are deemed valid by the City Clerk, we are waiting to learn if we need an additional 15,000 valid signatures to override City Council, or if we only need enough to bring our total to 45,000 valid signatures (for example if 40,000 are considered valid the first time around, do we only need 5,000 more valid signatures?) You may notice we don't have as many signatures by this point as we were anticipating. The job of a petitioner is physically strenuous and requires superb communication skills, so it has proven difficult to keep enough people on to build a staff big enough to collect 1,000 signatures per day. However, we ARE collecting 3,000 signatures per week and we are on our way to the 4,000 per week we need to successfully override City Council by the end of the summer. It just takes time. We are building a highly skilled staff who bring in only quality signatures. I want you to know that no money has been wasted - our payroll simply hasn't been as big as it could be, so we still have lots of money in the bank. But, we need more. We have enough to get us to 60,000 signatures, but we really need another $25,000 to get us to 75,000. I know many of you have given before, so I don't want to ask you to give again unless you are truly able. The more important way you can help our fundraising effort is by talking to everyone you know and asking them to contribute. After filing the petition with the City Clerk next week, we anticipate it will become even easier to raise funds, especially from those who are able to give larger amounts. Please spread the word, it will help! If anyone wants to donate, send them to NYCCAN.org. Lastly, we are assembling a legal team to lead the way once we have filed the petition. In the event that the City tries to block our effort by legal means, we will need the best people on our side. If you have suggestions or would like to offer your services, please contact us. And, if you haven't yet watched our 45-second ad, go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzC3QI8JenU&fmt=18 Thank you for your ongoing support. Sincerely, Ted Walter Thinkers think and talkers talk. Patriots ACT. Executive Council Donna Marsh O'Connor Bob McIlvaine Jean Canavan Edith Beaujon Janette MacKinlay William Rodriguez Ted Walter Executive Director Frank Morales Treasurer NYCCAN.org info at nyccan.org 1173A Second Ave Suite 155 New York, New York 10065 This message was sent from NYC CAN to richardfobes at hotmail.com. It was sent from: New York City CAN, Inc., 1173A Second Ave., Suite 155, New York, NY 10065. You can modify/update your subscription via the link below. Email Marketing by To be removed click here _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Walterb306 at cs.com Fri Jun 12 13:51:12 2009 From: Walterb306 at cs.com (Walterb306 at cs.com) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:51:12 EDT Subject: [CitizensTruth] ARTICLE-Bailout Bank Execs get payouts Message-ID: All, Raiders of the lost accounts... Great resource. Thank goodness Propublica is compiling the data and making it available. Beverley Execs Get Payouts by Paul Kiel, ProPublica - June 11, 2009 1:38 pm EDT http://www.propublica.org/ion/bailout/item/bailout-bank-execs-get-payouts-61 1 ProPublica Images/Krista Kjellman Yesterday, the Treasury Department released new rules [1] on how much banks that received TARP money can pay their executives. Among the rules is one that prohibits golden parachutes - defined as any payment to a departing exec simply because the exec is leaving. But an examination of public filings shows that a number of executives at banks that received TARP funds have received large payments just for resigning. It's unclear if the new rules will apply retroactively. Tune in this afternoon to catch a segment we did with public radio's Marketplace [2] that focuses on a few of these. Below is a rundown of these execs and the payouts they received. Name Bank Bailout Exec Payout Jack Gibson, CEO Hampton Roads Bankshares $80,347,000 In addition to covering Gibson's country club costs, the bank awarded Gibson $1.3 million for "consulting duties" upon his retirement. The bank says Treasury approved the arrangement. Lisa Binder, President and COO Associated Banc-Corp $525,000,000 Binder received $1.65 million in exchange for agreeing not to compete with the Wisconsin bank for one year. The bank said the payment was not a golden parachute and that it had consulted with outside counsel to make sure it complied with the law. Mack Whittle, CEO South Financial Group $347,000,000 Whittle was originally scheduled to retire as late as Dec. 30, 2008, but he retired on Oct. 24, the same day the bank applied for TARP funds. As such, his retirement was not affected by the golden parachute limits, allowing him to keep at least $2 million more than he would have been able to. His total retirement package totaled $18 million. Treasury awarded the bank TARP funds on Dec. 5. After shareholder lawsuits objecting to the arrangement, the bank reached a settlement that among other things, reformed oversight of compensation at the bank. A bank spokesperson said "the matter is settled and we are moving forward." Thomas Hoaglin, President and CEO Huntington Bancshares $1,398,071,000 Hoaglin was owed as much as $2.6 million for retiring in February, according to a bank disclosure. The bank did not return our calls seeking comment. David Edson, Executive Vice President Umpqua $214,181,000 Edson was owed at least $387,000 for retiring in March, according to a bank disclosure. Umpqua General Counsel Steve Philpott told us the payments were made subject to the bank's employment agreement with Edson, and that it was "fully compliant" with its agreement with the Treasury Department. Scott McBrair, Executive Vice President Webster Financial $400,000,000 McBrair received more than $420,000 in severance payments, according to a public filing. The bank did not respond to our requests for comment. Robin VanCastle, CFO Taylor Capital $104,823,000 VanCastle received $270,000 upon her resignation in March, according to a public filing. Bank spokesman Mark Nystuen declined to comment on the arrangement. Robert New, CEO F.N.B. Corporation $100,000,000 New will receive $990,000 in severance payments, according to the February severance agreement. The bank also agreed to purchase New's house for $748,000, the price he paid for it two years prior. The bank did not return our calls seeking comment. http://bailout.propublica.org/main/list/index Latest Bailouts $650 billion of taxpayer money has been allocated or promised to 608 companies and 12 programs. Jun 5, 2009 Covenant Financial Corporation Purchase - Preferred Stock w/ Exercised Warrants $5 million Jun 5, 2009 First Trust Corporation Purchase - Subordinated Debentures w/ Exercised Warrants $18 million Jun 5, 2009 OneFinancial Corporation Purchase - Subordinated Debentures w/ Exercised Warrants $17.3 million Jun 3, 2009 General Motors Debt Obligation, Equity Interest $30.1 billion May 29, 2009 Community Bank Shares of Indiana, Inc. Purchase - Preferred Stock w/ Warrants $19.5 million May 29, 2009 American Premier Bancorp Purchase - Preferred Stock w/ Exercised Warrants $1.8 million May 29, 2009 CB Holding Corp. Purchase - Preferred Stock w/ Exercised Warrants $4.1 million May 29, 2009 Citizens Bancshares Co. Purchase - Preferred Stock w/ Exercised Warrants $25 million MORE: Bailout Recipients Updated: Jun 10, 2009 | New: See the lists for banks that have returned the bailout money (http://bailout.propublica.org/main/list/refunds )and the 19 companies undergoing "stress tests." (http://bailout.propublica.org/main/list/stress_tests ), -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aroyboy44 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 13 02:17:20 2009 From: aroyboy44 at hotmail.com (andrew ritter) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:17:20 +0000 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Don't Stop Believing Message-ID: go on, try to hold the tears back, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5vrtZKvxWM don't stop believing. xo, AR _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. 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We'll be discussing energy efficiency and renewable energy > and the latest programs and incentives to help people save energy. It > would be great if you came and invited other members of the > Progressive Democrats group. I also emailed Kat but I don't have > contact information for other members that attended the meeting I > spoke at a few months ago. > > > > I attached our invitation flyer, so please feel free to pass it > around! Also, if you have any advice about other groups to invite > that would be great. I hope you're doing well. > > > > Celia > > > > > > Celia Christensen > > Environmental Outreach Coordinator > > > > Citizens Utility Board > > 309 W. Washington Street, Suite 800 > > Chicago, IL 60606 > > /Office:/ 312-263-4282 ext 115 > > /Fax:/ 312-263-4329 > > /Email:/ cchristensen at citizensutilityboard.org > > > > > For money-saving advice and consumer tips, visit > www.CitizensUtilityBoard.org! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mincam2 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 14 10:43:30 2009 From: mincam2 at yahoo.com (Chuck Minne) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Anybody want to comment on the denied Obama bow? Message-ID: <838014.59573.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Looks to me like he bowed to the Saudi king. Good idea?? http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0409/White_House_No_bow_to_Saudi.html ? Good idea to deny it?? ? ? ? In the late 1950s,?Curious as to how discoveries about the origin of the universe might affect society as a whole, NASA contracted with the Brookings Institution, a leading think tank, to research the question. Only a small part of its 100-page answer, which came to be known as "The Brookings Report," dealt with alien encounter. But it contained a stern warning. "Anthropological files contain many examples of societies, sure of their place in the universe, which have disintegrated when they had to associate with previously unfamiliar societies espousing different ideas and different life ways; others that survived such an experience usually did so by paying the price of changes in values and attitudes and behavior." It further stated that the discovery might have a devastating effect on scientists themselves due to the discovery that many of their most cherished theories could be at risk. ? Thus all alien and UFO data was denied. Click the following?for ?The Greatest Story Ever Denied -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Sun Jun 14 11:53:08 2009 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:53:08 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] This Palestinian Life - June 23, 2009, 7:00PM to 9:00 PM Message-ID: <4A351CE4.8030009@mailbag.com> SAVE THE DATE! Read on so you'll know why you'll want to do just that . . . . June 23, 2009, 7:00PM to 9:00 PM This Palestinian Life Stories of Palestinian Nonviolent Resistance . . . A film by Philip Rizk Wellington Avenue United Church of Christ 615 W. Wellington Avenue (Lakeview) Suggested donation $5 (no one will be turned away) In THIS PALESTINIAN LIFE, director Philip Rizk uses an oral history approach to highlight the stories and perspectives of Palestinian villagers and Bedouin. This method avoids using \"experts\" to interpret the broader Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Rather, the film\'s anthropological and ethnographic method portrays the daily life of Palestinian communities in order to explore, in greater depth, how Palestinian life is being undermined by the pressure of Israeli occupation. Upon viewing the film, we will hear from the film\'s director, Philip Rizk (via Skype) and Kathy Kelly, Voices for Creative Non-VIolence, who visited Gaza in January of this year. Questions and comments from the audience will be moderated by Rabbi Brant Rosen, spiritual leader of the Jewish Reconstructionist Congregation in Evanston. Co-Sponsored by: 8th Day Center for Justice ■ American Friends Service Committee ■ Amnesty International ■ Arab American Action Network ■ Christian Peacemaker Teams-Chicago ■ Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago ■ Eco-Justice Collaborative ■ Francis of Assisi Catholic Worker House ■ Kairos Community ■ The Jewish Reconstructionist Congregation Peace Dialogue ■ Palestine Solidarity Group ■ Palestinian Childrens? Relief Fund ■Viatorian Community ■Voices for Creative Non-Violence ■ Wellington Avenue United Church of Christ ■West Suburban Faith-Based PEACE Coalition ■Women?s Resource Center Visit www.waucc.org for more information and to download a flier. Questions? Contact Pam Richart at: 773.556.3418 or prichart at ecojusticecollaborative.org Pamela J. Richart Eco-Justice Collaborative 1645 W. Jarvis Ave., #2 Chicago, IL 60626 prichart at ecojusticecollaborative.org www.ecojusticecollaborative.org ----------------------- FYI - We've just added a Palestinian as a panelist. Here's his bio: Usama Houlila, Panelist. Usama, a Palestinian, grew up in the city of Ramallah in the West Bank. At age 12 he went to prison for demonstrating against the occupation. While in high school, Usama worked with organizations that build the basic infrastructure for refugee camps in the West Bank and Gaza. He served as president of the General Union of Palestinian Students in the US during the first Intifada and worked with the United Nations TOKTEN program in 1998, building technology infrastructure in the West Bank and Gaza. Usama is currently a member of the Arab Jewish Partnership for Peace. From hal at drxyzzy.org Mon Jun 15 17:59:00 2009 From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:59:00 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Iran, Tweeps, CNN Message-ID: '#CNNFail': Twitterverse slams network's Iran absence http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10264398-2.html While word of riots in the streets of Tehran spread like wildfire on Twitter, CNN stayed largely silent on the story, surprising and dismaying many. Iranians Protest Election, Tweeps Protest CNN [from TIME/CNN] http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2009/06/15/iranians-protest-election-tweeps-protest-cnn/ Over the weekend, as protests over the alleged re-election win of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad swelled in Iran, reports on the unrest in the country leaked out onto Twitter. (Even as the government of that country was evidently restricting access to opposition websites and text-messaging.) But in the Twitterverse, a separate uprising took place, as tweets marked with the hashtag #cnnfail began tearing into the cable-news network for devoting too few resources to the controversy in Iran. Sample: Soheyl: RT @IranRiggedElect: this is what Ahmainejad calls a small minority.#iranelection #cnnfail http://bit.ly/156NJY (expand) jeannieharrell: RT @champura CNN's Tony Harris can't believe people in Iran are wasting time twittering. Why is he on the air again? #cnnfail #iranelection Alevs34: RT: @TIME: What Twitter's #cnnfail protest says about the relationship between social media and old media: http://bit.ly/ND5Wl (expand) #pnid merickles: rt @charlesmonaco CNN anchor laughing @ Twitter's role in #Iran"only good 4 inane viewer comments" #CNNFail misunderstanding of new media AtlantaJJ: RT @IranRiggedElect: CNN says "hundreds" of Mousavi supporters. Disgusting! Plz just watch the videos. #cnnfail #iranelection SouthBay_Mike: BREAKING: More violence & protests in Iran, news coming in ONLY from Twitter & YouTube. F*ck you, American media #CNNfail http://ping.fm ... One note of caution: I don't think we know all the players yet. Things are rarely what they seem. One more... CNN's hoax - from Desert Storm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIZh1nm8Lzg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The Department of Defense might even consider you a low-level terrorist if you come! http://infowars.net/articles/june2009/150609Protest.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAY OF ACTION RALLY Thursday, June 18th, 2009 - 11:30 a.m. Thompson Center (100 W. Randolph, Chicago, IL) On May 31st, the Illinois General Assembly passed a budget that will have devastating effects on children and families. If new revenue sources are not identified by July 1st, major cuts to human services and education programs will go into effect. Up to 80,000 families - roughly 150,000 children - will lose their child care, and Preschool for All could be eliminated for the 100,000 children currently in the program. This budget will go into effect on July 1st unless we change its destiny. You must act because our elected offcials did not! We are expecting thousands of people from Chicago and around the state to rally against cuts to early childhood education and child care, care for the elderly, support for foster parents, mental health services, services for those with disabilities, domestic violence and sexual assault services... The list goes on! We will not support these cuts to vital programs and services for the people of Illinois. We need action now! For more information, please contact: Illinois Action for Children Public Policy and Advocacy advocacy at actforchildren.org _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've read several articles that back this up and today I was listening to "Fresh Air" on NPR and here is what their guest was talking about: "Chip Berlet has studied extremism, conspiracy theories and hate groups for more than 25 years. He says that the recent murders of abortion provider Dr. George Tiller and Holocaust Museum guard Stephen T. Johns exemplify the potential for violence that often lurks within extremist groups" Their conversation went from talking about hate groups, white supremacists, anti-Semites, violent extremists etc... directly and smoothly into talking about the conspiracy theorists from the 9-11 truth movement - essentially equating us with violent extremists. How long d'ya think before our beliefs are enough for them to institute preventative detention against us? AR _________________________________________________________________ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing? now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPG&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try bing_1x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimension04 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 18 19:29:19 2009 From: dimension04 at sbcglobal.net (Connie Smith) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:29:19 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] 9-11 truth = extemist hate group? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No doubt such an attempt is going on -- although when you look at, say, Patriots Question 9/11 and the high level of credibility these people have (not to mention many, MANY others!), it would truly require an overt fascist take-over to round THESE people up. I think what's going to happen is that 9/11 Truth is reaching a critical mass, and like a tsunami, irrefutable proof of the crimes will sweep over the land. Then like the Twitter network in Iran, the gov't/media won't be able to suppress the revelations. I think enough elements are falling into -- and being put into -- place to tip the tide for us rather than against us. I can't prove it, but it feels happily inevitable to me. Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: andrew ritter To: truth seekers Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: [CitizensTruth] 9-11 truth = extemist hate group? Hey Truthers, I've had a mini-conspiracy theory going through my head lately that the media seems to be supporting, My theory is that the recent incidents of the shooting of the abortion Doctor Tiller and the shooting at the Holocaust Museum are not entirely what they seem. I have not seen any super clear evidence one way or another if these men were acting on their own free will as "lone wolf terrorists" like the media says, or if they are government drones ... but its clear that their actions are being used by the media and government to begin expanding the definition of what a domestic terrorist is to the point where a 9-11 truther is no different from a violent extremist. I've read several articles that back this up and today I was listening to "Fresh Air" on NPR and here is what their guest was talking about: "Chip Berlet has studied extremism, conspiracy theories and hate groups for more than 25 years. He says that the recent murders of abortion provider Dr. George Tiller and Holocaust Museum guard Stephen T. Johns exemplify the potential for violence that often lurks within extremist groups" Their conversation went from talking about hate groups, white supremacists, anti-Semites, violent extremists etc... directly and smoothly into talking about the conspiracy theorists from the 9-11 truth movement - essentially equating us with violent extremists. How long d'ya think before our beliefs are enough for them to institute preventative detention against us? AR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing? now ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CitizensTruth mailing list CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth website: http://citizenstruth.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks for sending, though! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Kirk To: citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: [CitizensTruth] Wikileaks - promoting government transparency andfree expression Just came upon this site. Hopefully it won't be blocked in the US http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikileaks:About ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CitizensTruth mailing list CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth website: http://citizenstruth.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Wed Jun 24 13:44:59 2009 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:44:59 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] What's NOT been said about single-payer national health care: In-Reply-To: <477572906-1245836365-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1750231116-@bxe1085.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <477572906-1245836365-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1750231116-@bxe1085.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <4A42661B.3010201@mailbag.com> > I've heard it said that Republicans don't want to interject a beaurocrat between Americans and their doctors. They coveniently forget that there are already bureaucrats in between Americans & their doctors, and that Republicans are the main reason they are there. They're called Claims Adjustors. How do you love yours? > > Regards, > > Dan Stafford > > > Words are the mind's bridge - its connection to all the universe. > Love is the heart's bridge - its connection to all other souls. > Loving words can work miracles. From rmigalla at earthlink.net Fri Jun 26 11:15:59 2009 From: rmigalla at earthlink.net (Robin Migalla) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:15:59 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] FW: WOW! - THIS IS BIG NEWS - Amer. Medical Assn. - resolution re: food system Message-ID: <01C9F647.2FBF58F0.rmigalla@earthlink.net> Hello Everyone, This is a significant step in a wonderful direction! Cheers, Robin -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Hillman [SMTP:dlhillman at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 09:27 To: Illinois Local Food and Farms Coalition Subject: [Illinois Local Foods] Amer. Medical Assn. - resolution re: food system Thanks to Julia Leis of Fresh Taste (Good Food for All blog) for bringing this to people's attention in Chicago. Below is the press release describing the resolution in which the AMA recognizes the correlation between the food system and people's health. -- Debbie Debbie Hillman, Coordinator Illinois Local & Organic Food & Farm Task Force Co-chair, Evanston Food Policy Council 847/328-7175 DLHillman at sbcglobal.net American Medical Association Passes Resolution Supporting Sustainable Food System Health Care Role in Prevention and Food-Related Health Emphasized CHICAGO, June 17 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The American Medical Association (AMA) has approved a new policy resolution in support of practices and policies within health care systems that promote and model a healthy and ecologically sustainable food system. The resolution also calls on the AMA to work with health care and public health organizations to educate the health care community and the public about the importance of healthy and ecologically sustainable food systems that "provide food and beverages of naturally high nutritional quality." The policy was approved today at the 158th annual meeting of the AMA in Chicago, IL. "As our country wrestles with health care reform, the role of health care providers and facilities in providing education and leadership to help the population understand the link between the way we produce food and individual health is significant and cannot be overstated," said Jamie Harvie, director of the Health Care Without Harm Sustainable Food Work Group. "Preventing disease is paramount in the provision of health care. Hospitals, physicians and nurses are ideal leaders and advocates for creating food environments that promote health. This policy is an important contribution to a prevention-based healthcare delivery system." The AMA's new Sustainable Food policy builds on a report from its Council on Science and Public Health (http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/475/refcomd.pdf ), which notes that locally produced and organic foods "reduce the use of fuel, decrease the need for packaging and resultant waste disposal, preserve farmland ... [and] the related reduced fuel emissions contribute to cleaner air and in turn, lower the incidence of asthma attacks and other respiratory problems." Industrial food production is a significant contributor to increased antibiotic resistance, climate change, and air and water pollution. The new AMA policy states: * That our AMA support practices and policies in medical schools, hospitals, and other health care facilities that support and model a healthy and ecologically sustainable food system, which provides food and beverages of naturally high nutritional quality. * That our AMA encourage the development of a healthier food system through the US Farm Bill and other federal legislation. * That our AMA consider working with other health care and public health organizations to educate the health care community and the public about the importance of healthy and ecologically sustainable food systems. "Physicians now recognize that one cannot easily separate the health of food from how healthfully that food is produced," said Dr. David Wallinga, an attendee at the meeting, the Wm. T. Grant Foundation Distinguished Fellow in Food Systems and Public Health at the University of Minnesota, and a member of Health Care Without Harm. "The profligate use of antibiotics and fossil fuels in today's food system, for example, is directly linked to climate change and to the epidemic of antibiotic resistant infections, in hospitals and in communities. " President Obama, who spoke to the AMA meeting on June 15th, reiterated the importance of developing a sustainable healthcare system that leads to better patient outcomes. "If doctors have incentives to provide the best care instead of more care, we can help Americans avoid the unnecessary hospital stays, treatments, and tests that drive up costs," Obama stated. During his visit with AMA he spoke on the White House victory garden, which was planted to help educate children on the importance of fresh healthy food. In addition to providing fresh, nutritious food choices, health care food services across the country are implementing new initiatives such as sourcing organic food and meat produced without the use of antibiotics, buying locally produced foods, and sponsoring farmers markets and food boxes for staff. More than 240 hospitals have signed the HCWH Healthy Food in Healthcare Pledge. Signers pledge to work toward developing sustainable food systems in their facilities. In Congress, Rep. Peter Welch (D-VT) has introduced a "Blueprint for Health," legislation that calls for incentives to prevent chronic diseases, including investments in healthy and sustainable local and regional food systems. HCWH is an international coalition of more than 430 organizations in 52 countries, working to transform the health care industry worldwide, without compromising patient safety or care, so that it is ecologically sustainable and no longer a source of harm to public health and the environment. 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For twenty years I observed every aspect, and as easy as it was to love Michael -- and to want to protect him -- his sudden death yesterday seemed almost fated. Two days previously he had called me in an upbeat, excited mood. The voice message said, "I've got some really good news to share with you." He was writing a song about the environment, and he wanted me to help informally with the lyrics, as we had done several times before. When I tried to return his call, however, the number was disconnected. (Terminally spooked by his treatment in the press, he changed his phone number often.) So I never got to talk to him, and the music demo he sent me lies on my bedside table as a poignant symbol of an unfinished life. When we first met, around 1988, I was struck by the combination of charisma and woundedness that surrounded Michael. He would be swarmed by crowds at an airport, perform an exhausting show for three hours, and then sit backstage afterward, as we did one night in Bucharest, drinking bottled water, glancing over some Sufi poetry as I walked into the room, and wanting to meditate. That person, whom I considered (at the risk of ridicule) very pure, still survived -- he was reading the poems of Rabindranath Tagore when we talked the last time, two weeks ago. Michael exemplified the paradox of many famous performers, being essentially shy, an introvert who would come to my house and spend most of the evening sitting by himself in a corner with his small children. I never saw less than a loving father when they were together (and wonder now, as anyone close to him would, what will happen to them in the aftermath). Michael's reluctance to grow up was another part of the paradox. My children adored him, and in return he responded in a childlike way. He declared often, as former child stars do, that he was robbed of his childhood. Considering the monstrously exaggerated value our society places on celebrity, which was showered on Michael without stint, the public was callous to his very real personal pain. It became another tawdry piece of the tabloid Jacko, pictured as a weird changeling and as something far more sinister. It's not my place to comment on the troubles Michael fell heir to from the past and then amplified by his misguided choices in life. He was surrounded by enablers, including a shameful plethora of M.D.s in Los Angeles and elsewhere who supplied him with prescription drugs. As many times as he would candidly confess that he had a problem, the conversation always ended with a deflection and denial. As I write this paragraph, the reports of drug abuse are spreading across the cable news channels. The instant I heard of his death this afternoon, I had a sinking feeling that prescription drugs would play a key part. The closest we ever became, perhaps, was when Michael needed a book to sell primarily as a concert souvenir. It would contain pictures for his fans but there would also be a text consisting of short fables. I sat with him for hours while he dreamily wove Aesop-like tales about animals, mixed with words about music and his love of all things musical. This project became Dancing the Dream after I pulled the text together for him, acting strictly as a friend. It was this time together that convinced me of the modus vivendi Michael had devised for himself: to counter the tidal wave of stress that accompanies mega-stardom, he built a private retreat in a fantasy world where pink clouds veiled inner anguish and Peter Pan was a hero, not a pathology. This compromise with reality gradually became unsustainable. He went to strange lengths to preserve it. Unbounded privilege became another toxic force in his undoing. What began as idiosyncrasy, shyness, and vulnerability was ravaged by obsessions over health, paranoia over security, and an isolation that grew more and more unhealthy. When Michael passed me the music for that last song, the one sitting by my bedside waiting for the right words, the procedure for getting the CD to me rivaled a CIA covert operation in its secrecy. My memory of Michael Jackson will be as complex and confused as anyone's. His closest friends will close ranks and try to do everything in their power to insure that the good lives after him. Will we be successful in rescuing him after so many years of media distortion? No one can say. I only wanted to put some details on the record in his behalf. My son Gotham traveled with Michael as a roadie on his "Dangerous" tour when he was seventeen. Will it matter that Michael behaved with discipline and impeccable manners around my son? (It sends a shiver to recall something he told Gotham: "I don't want to go out like Marlon Brando. I want to go out like Elvis." Both icons were obsessions of this icon.) His children's nanny and surrogate mother, Grace Rwaramba , is like another daughter to me. I introduced her to Michael when she was eighteen, a beautiful, heartwarming girl from Rwanda who is now grown up. She kept an eye on him for me and would call me whenever he was down or running too close to the edge. How heartbreaking for Grace that no one's protective instincts and genuine love could avert this tragic day. An hour ago she was sobbing on the telephone from London. As a result, I couldn't help but write this brief remembrance in sadness. But when the shock subsides and a thousand public voices recount Michael's brilliant, joyous, embattled, enigmatic, bizarre trajectory, I hope the word "joyous" is the one that will rise from the ashes and shine as he once did. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garyfranchi at gmail.com Fri Jun 26 23:35:42 2009 From: garyfranchi at gmail.com (Gary Franchi) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:35:42 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess, featuring Ron Paul and Alex Jones Message-ID: <2c9e41bb0906262035r52aae931iad1e24ad9493dfb3@mail.gmail.com> *Reality Report* *(episode 12) * *Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess, featuring Ron Paul and Alex Jones* Watch it here: http://blip.tv/file/2282584 This Reality Report is stuffed to the gills with info just for you! We've got Kissinger calling to over throw Iran and Obama telling us we've done it before! We have the Federal Reserve confessing they misplaced a Trillion or so of your dollars and a few guys who are fighting Congressman Mark Kirk to get some transparency for the US Central Bank through HR 1207. We also have the extended report from Jekyll Island with Katherine Albrecht, Bob Schulz, Adam Kokesh, Clyde Cleveland, Ernest Hancock, G. Edward Griffin, Michael Badnarik and more. To add to the fun Gary Franchi will take you deep inside Alex Jones Studios for an exclusive behind the scenes look while filming for Camp FEMA. And to put the icing on the cake, Ron Paul makes an appearance to share his thoughts on Socialized Health Care. Oh and that squirmy Dictator Kim Jong Il rears his ugly head to shout some threats at the United States. With appearances by: Mark Kirk, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Katherine Albrecht, Adam Kokesh, Clyde Cleveland, Ernest Hancock, Ernest Guy Cunningham, G. 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URL: From hal at drxyzzy.org Sat Jun 27 11:58:28 2009 From: hal at drxyzzy.org (Hal Snyder) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:58:28 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess, featuring Ron Paul and Alex Jones In-Reply-To: <2c9e41bb0906262035r52aae931iad1e24ad9493dfb3@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c9e41bb0906262035r52aae931iad1e24ad9493dfb3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <301AB796-290F-40C2-A6E9-139C71B1AD70@drxyzzy.org> Nice job in production and post with the video installment, Gary. But Ron Paul on "socialized healthcare"? He uses a combination of scare talk and non sequiturs. Didn't convince me at all. J'accuse. I say it's time to stand up to Ron Paul and all the others who have marinated our culture in their free-market flim-flam for decades. Let's have some debate. We came together on this mailing list with a common interest. Maybe it's time to discuss our differences. Hal "government crisis rather than medical crisis" - this is pure rhetoric; he offers no facts to back this up. Tell the 47 million people on Medicare that you're going to cancel their evil, socialized, health care plans and they can go apply for coverage in the free market. Tell the ones who are not completely uninsurable due to a pre- existing condition that they can trade the 3% overhead of Medicare for a private plan with 30% overhead where any funds spent on actual health care are considered "medical loss". Ron Paul says most people don't talk about why medical costs are so high. Actually there is a lot of discussion going on about this. Private insurers keep 25% to 50% of premiums as profit and overhead. They spend our health care dollars on CEO salaries, marketing, underwriting, and a mushrooming bureaucracy whose sole purpose is to deny paying for care. Ron Paul talks about choice without mentioning the limits of the present system. We have 94% of insurance markets in the United States highly concentrated, with insurers thriving in the anti-competitive "free market", raking in enormous profits. This is hardly a "reaction to government" as Ron Paul says; it is profiteering in the worst way, getting rich off the suffering of others. One quarter to one half people employed in the U.S. complain about job lock - we are stuck in dead-end jobs, just to get some level of coverage. Meanwhile, health plans offered by employers - decreasing every day - are limited in number and limited in benefits. Tax credits are regressive. The let the fat cats off the hook and give a few dollars to the rest of us. They don't help if you're unemployed or just getting by. You want choice, look at Australia, where people pay a flat 1.5% personal income tax to cover their major health care needs, regardless of who employs them or whether they have a job at all. You are free to choose your doctor and other practitioners. You are free to start your own business, take time between jobs to care for a loved one, or change careers, and still have uninterrupted affordable, quality care. "if the government starts a program, we ought to have the right to opt out of the program"... This is deceptively simplistic and ignores how deeply interconnected people are today. Consider fire departments. Do you want to opt out of paying for fire protection? If you do, you raise the cost for others and put your neighbors at risk. What about programs to protect the environment? Anyone living comfortably in this society is reaping the benefits of a system we all put in place. Fire Care - here's a video extending the fire department analogy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhpUG4apgrE On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Gary Franchi wrote: > Reality Report (episode 12) > Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess, featuring Ron Paul > and Alex Jones > > Watch it here: http://blip.tv/file/2282584 > > This Reality Report is stuffed to the gills with info just for you! > We've got Kissinger calling to over throw Iran and Obama telling us > we've done it before! We have the Federal Reserve confessing they > misplaced a Trillion or so of your dollars and a few guys who are > fighting Congressman Mark Kirk to get some transparency for the US > Central Bank through HR 1207. > > We also have the extended report from Jekyll Island with Katherine > Albrecht, Bob Schulz, Adam Kokesh, Clyde Cleveland, Ernest Hancock, > G. Edward Griffin, Michael Badnarik and more. > > To add to the fun Gary Franchi will take you deep inside Alex Jones > Studios for an exclusive behind the scenes look while filming for > Camp FEMA. > > And to put the icing on the cake, Ron Paul makes an appearance to > share his thoughts on Socialized Health Care. > > Oh and that squirmy Dictator Kim Jong Il rears his ugly head to > shout some threats at the United States. > > With appearances by: Mark Kirk, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Katherine > Albrecht, Adam Kokesh, Clyde Cleveland, Ernest Hancock, Ernest Guy > Cunningham, G. Edward Griffin, Michael Badnarik, Dr. Bob Frady and > more! > > This is one jam packed report that you need to see and share! > > Watch it here: http://blip.tv/file/2282584 > _______________________________________________ > CitizensTruth mailing list > CitizensTruth at six.pairlist.net > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/citizenstruth > website: http://citizenstruth.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimension04 at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 27 17:26:32 2009 From: dimension04 at sbcglobal.net (Connie Smith) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:26:32 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess, featuring Ron Paul and Alex Jones In-Reply-To: <301AB796-290F-40C2-A6E9-139C71B1AD70@drxyzzy.org> References: <2c9e41bb0906262035r52aae931iad1e24ad9493dfb3@mail.gmail.com> <301AB796-290F-40C2-A6E9-139C71B1AD70@drxyzzy.org> Message-ID: <06AF8F65E70B44A4BA9170448CB26056@InspironConnie> Hear, hear! Hal is saying what many people uneasily feel: "J'accuse. I say it's time to stand up to Ron Paul and all the others who have marinated our culture in their free-market flim-flam for decades." Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal Snyder To: Citizens Truth Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess,featuring Ron Paul and Alex Jones Nice job in production and post with the video installment, Gary. But Ron Paul on "socialized healthcare"? He uses a combination of scare talk and non sequiturs. Didn't convince me at all. J'accuse. I say it's time to stand up to Ron Paul and all the others who have marinated our culture in their free-market flim-flam for decades. Let's have some debate. We came together on this mailing list with a common interest. Maybe it's time to discuss our differences. Hal "government crisis rather than medical crisis" - this is pure rhetoric; he offers no facts to back this up. Tell the 47 million people on Medicare that you're going to cancel their evil, socialized, health care plans and they can go apply for coverage in the free market. Tell the ones who are not completely uninsurable due to a pre-existing condition that they can trade the 3% overhead of Medicare for a private plan with 30% overhead where any funds spent on actual health care are considered "medical loss". Ron Paul says most people don't talk about why medical costs are so high. Actually there is a lot of discussion going on about this. Private insurers keep 25% to 50% of premiums as profit and overhead. They spend our health care dollars on CEO salaries, marketing, underwriting, and a mushrooming bureaucracy whose sole purpose is to deny paying for care. Ron Paul talks about choice without mentioning the limits of the present system. We have 94% of insurance markets in the United States highly concentrated, with insurers thriving in the anti-competitive "free market", raking in enormous profits. This is hardly a "reaction to government" as Ron Paul says; it is profiteering in the worst way, getting rich off the suffering of others. One quarter to one half people employed in the U.S. complain about job lock - we are stuck in dead-end jobs, just to get some level of coverage. Meanwhile, health plans offered by employers - decreasing every day - are limited in number and limited in benefits. Tax credits are regressive. The let the fat cats off the hook and give a few dollars to the rest of us. They don't help if you're unemployed or just getting by. You want choice, look at Australia, where people pay a flat 1.5% personal income tax to cover their major health care needs, regardless of who employs them or whether they have a job at all. You are free to choose your doctor and other practitioners. You are free to start your own business, take time between jobs to care for a loved one, or change careers, and still have uninterrupted affordable, quality care. "if the government starts a program, we ought to have the right to opt out of the program"... This is deceptively simplistic and ignores how deeply interconnected people are today. Consider fire departments. Do you want to opt out of paying for fire protection? If you do, you raise the cost for others and put your neighbors at risk. What about programs to protect the environment? Anyone living comfortably in this society is reaping the benefits of a system we all put in place. Fire Care - here's a video extending the fire department analogy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhpUG4apgrE On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Gary Franchi wrote: Reality Report (episode 12) Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess, featuring Ron Paul and Alex Jones Watch it here: http://blip.tv/file/2282584 This Reality Report is stuffed to the gills with info just for you! We've got Kissinger calling to over throw Iran and Obama telling us we've done it before! We have the Federal Reserve confessing they misplaced a Trillion or so of your dollars and a few guys who are fighting Congressman Mark Kirk to get some transparency for the US Central Bank through HR 1207. We also have the extended report from Jekyll Island with Katherine Albrecht, Bob Schulz, Adam Kokesh, Clyde Cleveland, Ernest Hancock, G. Edward Griffin, Michael Badnarik and more. To add to the fun Gary Franchi will take you deep inside Alex Jones Studios for an exclusive behind the scenes look while filming for Camp FEMA. And to put the icing on the cake, Ron Paul makes an appearance to share his thoughts on Socialized Health Care. Oh and that squirmy Dictator Kim Jong Il rears his ugly head to shout some threats at the United States. With appearances by: Mark Kirk, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Katherine Albrecht, Adam Kokesh, Clyde Cleveland, Ernest Hancock, Ernest Guy Cunningham, G. Edward Griffin, Michael Badnarik, Dr. Bob Frady and more! This is one jam packed report that you need to see and share! 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URL: From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Sat Jun 27 22:50:45 2009 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:50:45 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] Occupational Therapy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A46DA85.6020606@mailbag.com> > http://www.truthout.org/062609LA > > > > > Growing Factory Occupations Threaten to Break the Banks > > > Thursday 25 June 2009 > > by: Mike Elk | Visit article original @ *The Huffington Post* > > > photo > United Electrical, Radio, and Machine Workers of America protest Bank > of America's move to cut off financing for their plant in December > 2008. (Photo: Gerald Herbert / AP) > > So far only one group has been able to force the banks to > seriously change their practices - workers occupying their factories. > > Last December, members of the United Electrical Workers (UE) > employed by Republic Windows and Doors were initially denied severance > pay when management announced the closing of their Chicago factory. > Bank of America and JPMorganChase refused to continue the company's > credit line and to provide severance pay, required under the workers' > union contract. Adding insult to injury, the company failed to give 60 > days notice of the closing which is required by U.S. law under the > federal WARN Act. Workers responded by occupying the plant, protesting > the refusal of banks to extend credit under the slogan "You got bailed > out, We got sold out". > > After a six-day occupation and expressions of solidarity from > around the world, including from President Obama, the banks caved in > and agreed to pay workers' severance pay. However, unionized Republic > workers did more than just win back their severance pay, they created > a model of direct action which has the potential to hold the banks > accountable for their actions. > > Prominent scholars like Paul Krugman, Simon Johnson, and Naomi > Klein have argued that opportunities to dramatically restructure the > banking system have diminished greatly as the sense of crisis has > decreased. Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman claims that > corporate interests have much to lose if real reform were enacted and > are in response, pushing the line that the economy is returning to > normal in order to kill reform. As my colleague Joshua Holland points > out in a must-read piece: "Much of the business establishment has an > interest in heading off any attempt to fundamentally transform the > economy. After all, when things go south in the 21st century, the big > fish are protected - they get a bailout." > > While, the stimulus program and other bailout measures may have > prevented economic devastation greater than the Great Depression, the > current crisis remains one of the worst in decades. Unemployment is > increasing to double digits, credit markets remain frozen, and many > people may literally be forced to work until they die, as their > retirement accounts have been devastated by gambling on Wall Street. > Indeed, there is a potential for the crisis to worsen, as foreclosures > increased by 20% from a year ago. At first, foreclosures were caused > by the collapse of the sub-prime mortgage industry, but now unemployed > workers unable to pay their mortgages are losing their homes at an > alarming rate. The economic crisis remains very real. Wall Street, > fearing real structural reform and regulation, are attempting to deny > the depth of this crisis. > > While corporate interests were largely in favor of Obama's > stimulus program because it meant more business for them, they are > largely opposed to fixing the fundamental problem - putting profits > before people. We need to put an end to the predatory practices of the > big banks and investment houses by downsizing the banks, limiting CEO > pay, eliminating the casino capitalism of credit swap derivatives and > other regulatory measures that make banks accountable to communities > Unfortunately, the current administration has fallen short in > protecting us from Wall Street. > > Therefore, it is up to us through a model direct action, as used > by civil rights movement's sit-ins and boycotts and the sit down > strikes of the 1930s, to fight back against Wall Street. Under, the > motto of "Wells Fargo- Roadblock to Recovery", the United Electrical, > Radio, and Machine Workers America (UE), the same union that occupied > a Chicago windows factory in December for six days, has mounted > protests in 20 cities against Wells Fargo when it denied credit to > Quad City Die Casting, a state-of-the-art factory in Moline, IL. Quad > City Die Casting had been profitable until last fall. So far, Wells > Fargo has even refused to release details on why it is forcing closure > of the facility. > > Workers at Quad City Die Casting are fighting back and are engaged > in direct action against Wells Fargo as they refuse to continue > provide capital funds. The successful struggle at Republic Windows has > provided a model under which workers can successfully fight the banks > by occupying their plants. 4,000 workers, members of SEIU, at two > Hartmarx men's apparel factories, are also fighting Wells Fargo's > actions and are also threatening to occupy their factories. Last > months, workers at four Canadian plants, members of the Canadian Auto > Workers, used plant occupations to win their severance pay. > > Last week, President Obama called for broad financial reform > calling it the most "the most sweeping overhaul of financial > regulation since the 1930s." Experts say that while the plan seems to > be directionally correct in many areas, it is worrisome in the details > that the plan omits. Some experts worry that the plan does not > adequately address the issue of whether the banks are "too big to > fail", does little to address the perceived incentive structure of > executive pay, and does not outlaw the complex credit derivative swaps > that lead to this crisis. However what is most worrisome to me is that > the plan lacks any comprehensive measure to make banks more > transparent and accountable to the communities they serve. > > It's time that we as a movement start drawing upon the massive > mandate for change personified in Obama's landslide victory to bring > real change to our economy. Seizing on the electoral momentum of FDR's > massive landslide victory and upsets with poor working standards, UAW > members in Flint, Michigan decided to occupy their factory in the > Great Flint Sit-Down strike in 1937. Despite the passage of the Wagner > Act in 1934, which gave workers the right to collective bargaining, > most companies still refused to bargain with unions. The ultra > conservative 1930's Supreme Court was even tempted to outlaw unions as > unconstitutional in order to stop the power of organized labor to > counter big business. > > The Flint Sit-down strike changed all this. It sparked a series of > 538 similar sit-down strikes changed the economy of this nation for > the better. The strikes brought companies such as G.M., U.S. Steel, > and General Electrical to their knees forcing them to negotiate fair > contracts with their workers. The Supreme Court backed off its threat > to declare unions unconstitutional. The Flint-Sit down strikes > revitalized organized labor with UAW membership increasing from 30,000 > to 500,000 in just one year! The strong emergence of the labor > movement created the political climate that laid to the passage of the > Fair Labor Standards in 1938 which set a minimum wage standards, > established overtime pay, and outlawed child labor. > > Similarly, while LBJ attempted to delay civil rights legislation, > the civil rights went out and showed the urgent need for it through > sit-ins, freedom rides, and massive boycotts against racial > discrimination. As a result, they were able to hold not just > individual institutions accountable for their civil rights practices, > but indeed creates the political climate necessary for the passage of > the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act. As Martin Luther King said in > "A Letter from Birmingham Jail," "Nonviolent direct action seeks to > create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which > has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. > It seeks to so dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored." > > We can also use direct action to create a sense of crisis in order > to not just counter they myths of quick economic recovery being pushed > by Wall Street and hold them more accountable to communities, but to > also create the climate necessary for reform. We can force the banks > to change their practices on predatory lending through defending the > rights of families to stay in their homes after they have been > foreclosed in order to force banks to renegotiate the terms of their > mortgages. Laid off workers should stay in their factories after they > are closed in order to force to negotiate a way to keep these > factories open. Engaging in such actions will diminish the power of > the banks to call the shots. > > As Chris Townsend, Political Action Director of UE, the union > which occupied the factory in Chicago pointed out to me "One of the > most interesting things about the Republic Windows occupation is that > the banks wanted to settle in as rapid a fashion as possible. Two > giant banks - in one week - were forced to pay the workers what they > were owed to the tune of almost two million dollars. There are > lawsuits and legal actions that have been going on for years against > banks for similar things that have never been able to achieve those > kind of results. These banks don't want to be in the spotlight; they > want to hide at all costs. They wanted to settle as quickly in order > to stop the movement of this type of direct action from spreading > because they know such a movement could crush them." > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.92/2202 - Release Date: 06/25/09 17:58:00 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 68888 bytes Desc: not available Url : From mincam2 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 27 23:45:36 2009 From: mincam2 at yahoo.com (Chuck Minne) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CitizensTruth] Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess, featuring Ron Paul and Alex Jones Message-ID: <807670.88724.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm with Hal and Connie. ? ? Inflation [of the universe]?is driven, Guth explains, by a repulsive form of gravity, generated by an energy field residing in space. As spacetime inflates, some of that field loses its strength ? so a local region can expand more gradually, allowing stars and galaxies to develop and stick together. But at the same time, other regions of the inflating field continue to grow exponentially. There is always more inflating material available to spawn new spacetime bubbles ? Guth calls them ?pocket universes? ? and no way for that process to ever stop. ? ?So once started, inflation goes on literally forever, with pieces of the inflating region breaking off and producing these pocket universes,? Guth says. ?And if this is right, we would be living in one of these infinity of pocket universes.? ? Boltzmann brains are named for the 19th century physicist Ludwig Boltzmann, a pioneer in explaining probabilistic processes in physics. In an infinite universe, all things are possible, even random accumulations of atoms that precisely mimic objects that evolved by cause-and-effect processes ? such as brains. Somewhere in the cosmos, such a random mix of molecules has produced a brain identical to yours in every respect, neurons in identical configurations, with all your memories and perceptions. If enough matter and energy is around to make them, Boltzmann brains could become quite populous, making them, rather than humans, the typical observers of the cosmos. ? From: INFINITY, ?Science News, June 6th, 2009; Vol.175 #12 (p. 26) ? --- On Sat, 6/27/09, Connie Smith wrote: From: Connie Smith Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess, featuring Ron Paul and Alex Jones To: "Hal Snyder" , "Citizens Truth" Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 4:26 PM ? ? Hear, hear!? Hal is saying what many people ?uneasily feel:? ? "J'accuse. I say it's time to stand up to Ron Paul and all the others who have marinated our culture in their free-market flim-flam for decades." ? Connie ? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal Snyder To: Citizens Truth Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess,featuring Ron Paul and Alex Jones Nice job in production and post with the video installment, Gary. But Ron Paul on "socialized healthcare"? He uses a combination of scare talk and non sequiturs. Didn't convince me at all.? J'accuse. I say it's time to stand up to Ron Paul and all the others who have marinated our culture in their free-market flim-flam for decades. Let's have some debate. We came together on this mailing list with a common interest. Maybe it's time to discuss our differences. Hal "government crisis rather than medical crisis" - this is pure rhetoric; he offers no facts to back this up. Tell the 47 million people on Medicare that you're going to cancel their evil, socialized, health care plans and they can go apply for coverage in the free market. Tell the ones who are not completely uninsurable due to a pre-existing condition that they can trade the 3% overhead of Medicare for a private plan with 30% overhead where any funds spent on actual health care are considered "medical loss". Ron Paul says most people don't talk about why medical costs are so high. Actually there is a lot of discussion going on about this. Private insurers keep 25% to 50% of premiums as profit and overhead. They spend our health care dollars on CEO salaries, marketing, underwriting, and a mushrooming bureaucracy whose sole purpose is to deny paying for care. Ron Paul talks about choice without mentioning the limits of the present system. We have 94% of insurance markets in the United States highly concentrated, with insurers thriving in the anti-competitive "free market", raking in enormous profits. This is hardly a "reaction to government" as Ron Paul says; it is profiteering in the worst way, getting rich off the suffering of others. One quarter to one half people employed in the U.S. complain about job lock - we are stuck in dead-end jobs, just to get some level of coverage. Meanwhile, health plans offered by employers - decreasing every day - are limited in number and limited in benefits. Tax credits are regressive. The let the fat cats off the hook and give a few dollars to the rest of us. They don't help if you're unemployed or just getting by. You want choice, look at Australia, where people pay a flat 1.5% personal income tax to cover their major health care needs, regardless of who employs them or whether they have a job at all. You are free to choose your doctor and other practitioners. You are free to start your own business, take time between jobs to care for a loved one, or change careers, and still have uninterrupted affordable, quality care. "if the government starts a program, we ought to have the right to opt out of the program"... This is deceptively simplistic and ignores how deeply interconnected people are today. Consider fire departments. Do you want to opt out of paying for fire protection? If you do, you raise the cost for others and put your neighbors at risk. What about programs to protect the environment? Anyone living comfortably in this society is reaping the benefits of a system we all put in place. Fire Care - here's a video extending the fire department analogy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhpUG4apgrE On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Gary Franchi wrote: Reality Report (episode 12) Kissinger, Obama, The FED and Mark Kirk Confess, featuring Ron Paul and Alex Jones Watch it here: http://blip.tv/file/2282584 This Reality Report is stuffed to the gills with info just for you! We've got Kissinger calling to over throw Iran and Obama telling us we've done it before! We have the Federal Reserve confessing they misplaced a Trillion or so of your dollars and a few guys who are fighting Congressman Mark Kirk to get some transparency for the US Central Bank through HR 1207. We also have the extended report from Jekyll Island with Katherine Albrecht, Bob Schulz, Adam Kokesh, Clyde Cleveland, Ernest Hancock, G. Edward Griffin, Michael Badnarik and more. To add to the fun Gary Franchi will take you deep inside Alex Jones Studios for an exclusive behind the scenes look while filming for Camp FEMA. And to put the icing on the cake, Ron Paul makes an appearance to share his thoughts on Socialized Health Care. Oh and that squirmy Dictator Kim Jong Il rears his ugly head to shout some threats at the United States. With appearances by: Mark Kirk, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Katherine Albrecht, Adam Kokesh, Clyde Cleveland, Ernest Hancock, Ernest Guy Cunningham, G. Edward Griffin, Michael Badnarik, Dr. Bob Frady and more! This is one jam packed report that you need to see and share! 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Ron Paul's Audit the Federal Reserve bill is gaining much support. Please make every effort to bring friends. Refreshments will be served ! *WHEN: Tuesday June 30th at 6:15 PM (till 8) WHERE: * *The Community Auditorium at the Humboldt Park Public Library 1605 N. Troy St., (At North Ave) IL 60647 * Across the street from the National Guard Building on North Ave Parking lot behind the Library *Please confirm by phone: 224-805-2200 Looking forward to seeing you there! Stephen Zarlenga Ami* The seminar leaflet is attached as a MS Word document if you want to distribute it amongst your friends. > * > *RETURN TO AMI HOME PAGE > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: June 2009 free seminar.doc Type: application/msword Size: 32768 bytes Desc: not available Url : From richardfobes at hotmail.com Mon Jun 29 23:21:52 2009 From: richardfobes at hotmail.com (Richard Fobes) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:21:52 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] NYCCAN.org Petition Filed with 52, 000 signatures!!! In-Reply-To: <069103dcb1731f317cf68b7ea8c332a7@localhost.localdomain> References: <069103dcb1731f317cf68b7ea8c332a7@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:19:59 -0400 To: richardfobes at hotmail.com From: info at nyccan.org Subject: Petition Filed!!! Dear Friends! On Wednesday, June 24, 2009, we filed the petition with 52,000 signatures! 9/11 Family Members Maureen Hunt and Manny Badillo, and First Responders Charlie Giles of the Feal Good Foundation and Bill Gleason of the World Trade Center Rescuers Foundation, arrived at the City Clerk?s office to deliver the petition and speak in behalf of all the proud and concerned citizens who deserve an unbiased, nonpolitical investigation of the tragedy that has affected us so deeply. Thank you for getting us this far! City Council now has until August 24 to approve the placement of the referendum on the November 3 ballot. As hundreds more family members, first responders and survivors join our campaign and lobby their council members to support the petition, our chances grow. In the unlikely event City Council does not approve the placement of the referendum on the ballot, we will be prepared to deliver an additional 30,000 signatures on August 24 to guarantee it gets on the ballot. Already we have 8,000 of the additional 30,000! Now more than ever is the moment to stand up for what we believe in and convert to reality what we have been working towards for so long. This is how you can help: DONATE IF YOU CAN. We need money to pay our amazing petitioners who are now collecting 4,000 to 5,000 signatures per week. We need money to pay a legal team. We need money to launch a full-scale PR campaign once the referendum is on the ballot. Go to http://NYCCAN.org/donate.php right now! TELL FAMILY MEMBERS, FIRST RESPONDERS and SURVIVORS. We have a Statement of Support at NYCCAN.ORG that every family member, first responder, and survivor is welcome to sign. We have already accumulated over 60 signatories in the last week - THANK YOU to those of you who joined us in calling for a new, impartial investigation. Now our goal is to reach 1,000 signatories by September 11, 2009. If you know someone who was directly affected and wants accountability, send them to NYCCAN.ORG. The more New York-based family members, first responders and survivors who sign on, the more City Council will hear from the constituents it simply can?t ignore. TELL YOUR FRIENDS. Nothing works like word of mouth. Forward this email far and wide. While there is little room for celebration, we deserve to be proud of how far we have gotten and where we are going. Over eighteen months of hard work and selfless dedication from hundreds of individuals, and the generosity and faith shown by thousands of you across the globe, have gotten us here. And now it comes down to the next four months. Thank you for standing with us. Sincerely, Ted Walter P.S. We will soon have photos and video of the petition filing up on the website. Be sure to check back! Thinkers think and talkers talk. Patriots ACT. 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URL: From aqmstaffo at mailbag.com Tue Jun 30 10:20:34 2009 From: aqmstaffo at mailbag.com (Daniel Stafford) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:20:34 -0500 Subject: [CitizensTruth] PDI meeting Thursday 07/02/09 7pm-9pm at Wheaton IHOP Message-ID: <4A4A1F32.3040303@mailbag.com> All, Progressive Democrats of Illinois will meet at the Danada Square International House of Pancakes in Wheaton, IL this Thursday, July 2nd from 7pm-9pm. Meeting topics include: 1. Healthcare. 2. IL-13th district PDA chapter formation. (It would be especially helpful if the other four people in IL-13 could attend) 3. The economy. 4. The energy bill passed by the house. The IHOP is located at the N.E. corner of the intersection of Butterfield Rd/IL-Rte 56 & Naperville Rd. The easiest way to get there is I-88 West to Naperville Road South. You can call me if you need help with directions the evening of the meeting after 6pm at 815-483-8878. Regards, and I look forward to seeing you there. Dan Stafford Co-Chair, Progressive Democrats of Illinois www.illinoisprogressives.org From Walterb306 at cs.com Tue Jun 30 13:53:23 2009 From: Walterb306 at cs.com (Walterb306 at cs.com) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:53:23 EDT Subject: [CitizensTruth] ARTICLE-Denials of US interference in Iran elections not credible Message-ID: All, FYI, Beverley Denials of US interference in Iran not credible By Peter Symonds 29 June 2009 The US administration has responded to Iranian allegations of manipulating opposition protests inside the country with flat denials. President Obama declared last week that the United States respected Iran?s sovereignty ?and is not at all interfering in Iran?s affairs?. The American and international media, which has mounted a strident campaign in support of defeated Iranian presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, has similarly dismissed out of hand any suggestion that the US and its European allies had a hand in the events since the presidential poll on June 12. Just as the press never examines the claims of Mousavi and his supporters that the election was rigged, so it ignores the considerable evidence of extensive US operations against Iran, spanning a range of diplomatic, intelligence and military activities. USA Today last week noted that the US Agency for International Development (USAID) was handing out $20 million in grants this financial year to unnamed organisations ?to promote democracy, human rights, and the rule of law in Iran?. For next year, the Obama administration is seeking another $15 million via the Near Eastern Regional Democracy Initiative, which has similar aims. Asked whether such grants constituted interference, White House spokesman Tommy Vietor disingenuously declared: ?Let?s be clear. The United States does not fund any movement, faction or political party in Iran. We support... universal principles of human rights, free speech, and the rule of law.? In reality, the funding is the continuation of the Bush administration?s efforts to establish ties with opposition groups in Iran and undermine the government. One of the funnels for funding is the state-funded National Endowment for Democracy, which has been intimately involved in ?colour revolutions? in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet republics. The NED website lists a number of Iranian organisations including the National Iranian American Council as recipients of its funds. This openly acknowledged program is, however, just the tip of the iceberg. In a series of articles in the New Yorker , investigative journalist Seymour Hersh provided details of the Bush administration?s efforts to foster ? regime change? in Tehran and prepare for a military strikes. There is no reason to believe that the Obama administration has ended any of these covert activities by the CIA and the Pentagon. In one of his first articles entitled ?The Coming Wars? in January 2005, Hersh reported that the US military had been staging commando operations inside Iran for months to accumulate ?intelligence and targeting information on Iranian nuclear, chemical and missile sites? for future military strikes. US special forces were operating from bases inside neighbouring, US-occupied Afghanistan and Iraq. The use of the military for covert operations avoided the formal legal constraints under which the CIA operated. (?US carrying out acts of war against Iran, magazine reports?) The WSWS also noted an article in the Guardian reporting that the Pentagon was using members of the Iranian opposition group Mujahedin-e-Khalq (MEK) for intelligence operations inside Iran. The MEK, which is listed as a terrorist organisation by the US State Department, had been under the protection of Saddam Hussein, having fought on Iraq?s side during the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980s. Following the US occupation of Iraq, the group was based at Camp Ashraf near Baghdad, watched over by American troops. In 2006, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice sought an extra $75 million to fund anti-Tehran propaganda and support opposition groups inside and outside the country. While avoiding the use of the term ?regime change,? Rice told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that the US intended to ? actively confront? Iran. Congress eventually approved $66 million?a major expansion from the previous year?s $10 million. Lacking any diplomatic presence in Iran, the State Department set up a small outpost in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates?the Iranian Regional Presence Office?ostensibly to monitor Iranian state television and talk to Iranians who travelled there. The extra funding was part of stepped-up US activities against the Iranian regime amid increasingly strident, but unsubstantiated, claims that Tehran was building nuclear weapons, arming anti-US insurgents inside Iraq and Afghanistan, and supporting ?terrorism? throughout the Middle East. In a February 2007 article entitled ?The Redirection,? Hersh focussed on US efforts to counter Iran throughout the Middle East by forging a coalition of ?moderate? states, including Saudi Arabia and Israel. The article provided details of US covert operations inside Lebanon, Syria and Iran, including the use of Al Qaeda-linked Sunni groups deeply hostile to Shiite Iran. (?The Bush administration?s new strategy of setting the Middle East aflame?) In January 2007, the Boston Globe reported that the Bush administration had established the Iran Syria Policy and Operations Group (ISOG), involving senior officials from the Pentagon, State Department, Treasury, the CIA and National Security Council, with a broad brief to consolidate the US military alliance against Tehran, covertly finance Iranian dissidents and opposition groups and isolate Iran economically. Elizabeth Cheney, daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney, had initially headed ISOG, having been in charge of the State Department?s Iranian Affairs office that dispensed ? pro-democracy? funding to Iranian opposition groups. The Los Angeles Times noted in 2006 that the Pentagon had already established its own Directorate for Iran, modelled on the notorious Office of Special Plans that played a major role in concocting the lies to justify the invasion of Iraq. (?The Bush administration?s committee for regime change in Iran?) Reports also emerged in 2006 and 2007 that the US was covertly assisting armed guerrillas based among Iran?s ethnic minorities to wage war against the Iranian regime. Two bombings in Zahedan in southeastern Iran that killed members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps raised questions about US support for a Sunni extremist group, Jundallah, based among Iran?s Baluch minority. In other circumstances, the US would brand Jundallah as Al Qaeda. In a November 2006 article, Hersh noted that the Pentagon had established ?covert relationships with Kurdish, Azeri and Baluchi tribesmen and had encouraged their efforts to undermine the regime?s authority in northern and southeastern Iran?. ABC News published several reports in April 2007 indicating that US officials were in regular contact with the Jundallah leader, Abd el Malik Regi. (?Is the Bush administration behind the bombings in Iran??) The Pentagon was further implicated in backing Party for Free Life in Kurdistan (PJAK) guerrillas operating from northern Iraq against targets inside the neighbouring Kurdish areas of Iran. A spate of articles appeared in the US press after Iran retaliated by shelling PJAK bases. Journalists met with PJAK leaders who were clearly operating with tacit US approval. While both sides were coy about acknowledging direct American support, PJAK leader Rahman Haji Ahmadi had travelled to Washington in 2006 to meet with senior US officials. The US was clearly walking a fine line as the PJAK ?freedom fighters? were linked to the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which was carrying out its own war inside Turkey, a US ally, and was branded a ?terrorist? organisation by the US State Department. (?Washington?s proxy war inside Kurdish Iran?) In mid-2007, ABC News reported that President Bush had signed a formal presidential finding earlier in the year, authorising ?a CIA plan that reportedly includes a coordinated campaign of propaganda, disinformation and manipulation of Iran?s currency and international financial transactions?. A detailed article by Hersh last July entitled ?Preparing the Battlefield? provided further details of the presidential finding, which authorised the CIA to engage in extensive activities in support of dissident groups inside Iran, as well as minority Ahwazi Arab and Baluchi groups, at a cost of $400 million. The CIA was working hand in hand with US special forces, who, according to Hersh, were involved in ?seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of ?high-value targets? in the President?s war on terror, who may be captured or killed?. Hersh noted that the scale and the scope of such operations had been significantly expanded. Significantly, the presidential finding had been approved by four senior Democrats?House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senate Intelligence Committee chairman Jay Rockefeller and House Intelligence Committee chairman Silvestre Reyes. The Democrat backing for Bush?s finding underscores the bipartisan character of the US operations against Iran, which are aimed at securing a regime in Tehran more amenable to US strategic and economic interests in the energy-rich Middle East and Central Asian regions. (? As war clouds gather: Democrats back covert US attacks on Iran?) The advent of the Obama administration resulted in a tactical shift in US foreign policy, not a fundamental change in direction. Sections of the US political establishment regarded the Bush administration?s war in Iraq as disastrous to America?s standing and interests in the region and pressed for a refocussing on the rapidly deteriorating situation in Afghanistan and neighbouring Pakistan. Iran, which is at the strategic crossroads between the Middle East and Central Asia, was always central to US plans. While Obama has mooted negotiations with Iran to reach a political accommodation, his administration is undoubtedly keeping all its options open. It is not possible at this stage to determine the full extent of US involvement in the recent Iranian presidential elections and the subsequent protests. However, the entire campaign run by Mir Hossein Mousavi before and after the poll bears an uncanny resemblance to previous US-backed ?colour revolutions? in Eastern Europe and former Soviet Republics. Given the intensive activities of the CIA, Pentagon and State Department, not only in recent years, but going back to the 1953 US-backed coup that overthrew the nationalist Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadeq, it certainly can be ruled out that the Obama administration has simply sat back and watched events unfold. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Walterb306 at cs.com Tue Jun 30 19:00:42 2009 From: Walterb306 at cs.com (Walterb306 at cs.com) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:00:42 EDT Subject: [CitizensTruth] Website Message-ID: All, Interesting organizing approach G20 Pittsburgh is a watchdog and organizing group taking its name from the international G20. Check it out at: http://g20pgh.ning.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G20_industrial_nations The G-20 (more formally, the Group of Twenty Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors) is a group of finance ministers and central bank governors from 20 economies: 19 of the world's largest national economies, plus the European Union (EU). It also met twice at heads-of-government level, in November 2008 and again in April 2009. Collectively, the G-20 economies comprise 85%[3] of global gross national product, 80% of world trade (including EU intra-trade) and two-thirds of the world population.[2] The G-20 is a forum for cooperation and consultation on matters pertaining to the international financial system. It studies, reviews, and promotes discussion among key industrial and emerging market countries of policy issues pertaining to the promotion of international financial stability, and seeks to address issues that go beyond the responsibilities of any one organization. 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