[CitizensTruth] Why be on this list if...

[Robin Migalla]

Hi Chuck,

I really hear your frustration in this message.  I, too, have suffered 
terrible despair over the way things have been going.  When I first woke up 
to the whole building 7 thing, I spent almost an entire year either in 
frantic chicken little ravings or despairing episodes of depression that 
kept me on my couch for weeks.  The same year I awoke, I lost my brother 
who was my best friend in all the world, and the last of my nuclear family 
on this earth.  It was quite a lonely period in my life.  And the absolute 
worst part of it was my husband wouldn't even consider looking at the 
evidence.  Not even in my own home and family, in my closest and most 
intimate relationship, could I get a listening, compassionate ear for the 
distress my awakening caused.

I'm glad that stage is behind me now, and funny thing is since I've come to 
terms with my husband's inability to even entertain the idea there was some 
funny business happening on September 11, 2001, I really am feeling a lot 
more hopeful.  I sincerely believe that the end of deception is upon us. 
 Here's a link to an article I found very helpful:

http://www.world-of-wisdom.com/blog/belief-systems-and-their-consequence  
s/24/#more-24

I hope the astrology stuff doesn't scare you too much, to consider the 
points that Adrian is making.

I've also been meaning to reply to your post about the alien discovery in 
Cerro Azul, Panama.  I participate in several groups who are focused on 
planetary ascension.  Many of the people in these groups claim to have 
relationships with extra terrestrials and often share messages they believe 
are coming from them.  If you haven't read "From elsewhere : being E.T. in 
America" by Scott Mendelker, I encourage you to do so.  Many of the 
messages of late have been telling us that there are going to be more and 
more incidences of these extra terrestrials trying to make contact with us.

It's a shame that the teens became so fearful they felt they had to kill 
the creature.  Of course isn't that the way of the world these days - our 
fear driving our madness?  I'm not surprised, but I am saddened by it.  The 
creature doesn't appear to be something capable of overpowering a group of 
healthy teenagers.  If their fear hadn't taken over, perhaps they could 
have subdued rather than killed the creature and we could have learned 
something.

Anyway, the older I get the more I realize truth is a very relative thing. 
 I do believe, however, there are a few universal truths on which we can 
rely.  I believe one of them to be that there really is a loving Creator 
which has our very best interests at heart and in mind, and if we can calm 
our fears enough to hear the still small voice we carry within our own 
being given us by that Creator, we might just get a glimpse of a new and 
better world and begin to manifest that.

I also want to express my gratitude to you for your very well thought out 
and thought provoking posts.  It has been through your posts, I have been 
able to let go of some of my staunch libertarian views and to see the value 
in certain public enterprises.  I'm not yet sure health care ought to be 
one of them; especially, given that my view of the current corporate 
controlled system is killing us, but I do think I'm starting to see there 
might be a way of doing this.  Did you know that the very first hospital on 
our continent was established by Benjamin Franklin as a means of caring for 
the homeless sick and mentally ill folks on the streets of Philadelphia.  I 
think good ole Ben was onto something, and I think it was by no accident 
that it was a public enterprise and not a corporate controlled profit 
center.

Thanks for listening,
Robin
www.healthforlifecoloncare.com
www.traditionalnutrition.org
www.ppnf.org
"Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food."
                                     --Hippocrates  (460-377 B.C.)
            Just be careful how you define food ;-)

"The purpose of medicine is to amuse the patient until nature effects a 
cure."
                                      -- Voltaire (1694-1778)

"Doctors pour medicines of which they know little to cure diseases of which
     they no less into humans of which they know nothing."
                                      -- Voltaire (1694-1778)

-----Original Message-----
From:	Chuck Minne [SMTP:mincam2 at yahoo.com]
Sent:	Friday, October 02, 2009 17:36
To:	September 11 List 2; Connie Smith
Subject:	Re: [CitizensTruth] Why be on this list if...

Connie, I am on this list because I want to know the truth (or at least 
what others perceive it to be.) I'm not sure that I ever will. In fact, I 
don't think it is entirely possible. I'd be happy if I thought I came 
reasonably close.

Before 911, I actually thought it was possible to be fairly well informed. 
However, 911 has made me almost a complete an unbeliever. I feel confident 
that schoolbooks of 2020 will be full of lies. So why not the schoolbooks 
of 1990? 1890? etc.?

I belong to Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth. Their goal is to 
enlighten Congress. When talking to one of their organizers, I asked, "What 
makes you think Congress is on our side?" She had no answer.

I have come to the conclusion that people do not want to know the "truth," 
or if they already do, they don't want to admit it. I truly hope I am 
wrong, and that you can prove me so.

It is my guess that we are the work of aliens - but damned if I know or 
even believe that. And that goes for just about everything.

I think our world revolves about greed - but that is just another guess.

Tell me I'm wrong about any of this. that's fine with me - maybe I'll learn 
something. Which is why I am here.



AMY GOODMAN: We're talking to Wendell Potter. For twenty years he was an 
executive at CIGNA and Humana. Most importantly, in the years at CIGNA, he 
was their chief corporate spokesperson, but has left to blow the whistle on 
insurance companies.

WENDELL POTTER: Well, clearly, this senator [Chuck Grassley] has the 
insurance industry's best interests at heart, not the American public and 
not his constituents.

He has said that he didn't think a public plan would be fair, compete 
fairly with insurance companies who-the private insurance industry. I'd 
like to ask him what is fair about the way that the insurance industries 
operate today, the companies that dump sick people when they need insurance 
most. What is fair about the way the insurance industry operates, Senator 
Grassley?

AMY GOODMAN: Forty-five million new customers, that's what the private 
insurance companies can now look forward to, if a bill like what came out 
of the Senate Finance Committee moves forward with the mandate. Explain how 
they will make out and how important, how significant, how profitable this 
is for the for-profit companies.

WENDELL POTTER: Yeah, this is the first time that the insurance industry 
has really seen great opportunity in healthcare reform, with an individual 
mandate, which would require all of us to buy insurance if we are not 
eligible for a public, government-run program, which, fortunately, many 
people are. We would have to buy it in the private market from insurance 
companies, many of whom-many of which are for-profit companies. We would 
not have the option of buying or getting insurance through a government-run 
program like the public option would create.

So, not only would our premium dollars go into this-into the private 
insurance industry, but a lot of tax dollars would. Most people who don't 
have insurance can't afford it, and they wouldn't be able to afford it 
after healthcare reform is passed without the government subsidizing their 
premiums. So billions and billions of taxpayers' dollars will flow right 
into the treasuries of these big for-profit insurance companies. So we will 
be essentially paying a tax that will help support these insurance 
companies. It will be an enormous bailout of the health insurance industry. 

--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Connie Smith <dimension04 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:


From: Connie Smith <dimension04 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [CitizensTruth] Why be on this list if...
To: "September 11 List 2" <citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net>
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 5:05 PM







Regarding a few comments that are going around, pertaining to the NY ballot 
efforts, Daniel Sunjata, etc:

Why on earth would anyone be on a 9/11 Truth list if they doubt the truth 
WILL break through?  One comment was an overt demoralization attempt -- 
which is like attempted sabotage.  The other was all about confusion -- 
which at very least, isn't helpful.

Of course there's mythology in our history, but the good stories aren't the 
problem. America does have a foundation of ideals, and there are healthy 
kernels of truth and goodness even if some events are exaggerated.

The problem comes in with lack of truth about the "bad" stories -- lack of 
awareness of how brutal and arrogant many US policies actually have been 
and continue to be.

America:  all good, no bad -- this has been the LIE unconscionably taught 
to us, to generations of schoolchildren.  This is what has most Americans 
living in the matrix of ignorance -- and why the perpetrators of 9/11 were 
pretty sure they could get away with it.

But I'm convinced the unprecedented level of global awareness and activism 
are reaching critical mass -- and ALL the lies -- especially about history 
and religion -- are soon going to come rushing out in a tsunami of truth. 
 Our main task then is to help people adjust -- as we have had to do -- to 
the shock.  And then to help build an entirely new and shining future based 
on good-hearted realism instead of the evil agendas humanity has long been 
suffering.

Connie
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