[CitizensTruth] Why be on this list if...

[Connie Smith]

Thanks for sharing from your heart, Robin!



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robin Migalla" <rmigalla at earthlink.net>
To: "Citizens Truth (E-mail)" <citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Why be on this list if...



> Hi Chuck,

>

> I really hear your frustration in this message.  I, too, have suffered

> terrible despair over the way things have been going.  When I first woke 

> up

> to the whole building 7 thing, I spent almost an entire year either in

> frantic chicken little ravings or despairing episodes of depression that

> kept me on my couch for weeks.  The same year I awoke, I lost my brother

> who was my best friend in all the world, and the last of my nuclear family

> on this earth.  It was quite a lonely period in my life.  And the absolute

> worst part of it was my husband wouldn't even consider looking at the

> evidence.  Not even in my own home and family, in my closest and most

> intimate relationship, could I get a listening, compassionate ear for the

> distress my awakening caused.

>

> I'm glad that stage is behind me now, and funny thing is since I've come 

> to

> terms with my husband's inability to even entertain the idea there was 

> some

> funny business happening on September 11, 2001, I really am feeling a lot

> more hopeful.  I sincerely believe that the end of deception is upon us.

> Here's a link to an article I found very helpful:

>

> http://www.world-of-wisdom.com/blog/belief-systems-and-their-consequence

> s/24/#more-24

>

> I hope the astrology stuff doesn't scare you too much, to consider the

> points that Adrian is making.

>

> I've also been meaning to reply to your post about the alien discovery in

> Cerro Azul, Panama.  I participate in several groups who are focused on

> planetary ascension.  Many of the people in these groups claim to have

> relationships with extra terrestrials and often share messages they 

> believe

> are coming from them.  If you haven't read "From elsewhere : being E.T. in

> America" by Scott Mendelker, I encourage you to do so.  Many of the

> messages of late have been telling us that there are going to be more and

> more incidences of these extra terrestrials trying to make contact with 

> us.

>

> It's a shame that the teens became so fearful they felt they had to kill

> the creature.  Of course isn't that the way of the world these days - our

> fear driving our madness?  I'm not surprised, but I am saddened by it. 

> The

> creature doesn't appear to be something capable of overpowering a group of

> healthy teenagers.  If their fear hadn't taken over, perhaps they could

> have subdued rather than killed the creature and we could have learned

> something.

>

> Anyway, the older I get the more I realize truth is a very relative thing.

> I do believe, however, there are a few universal truths on which we can

> rely.  I believe one of them to be that there really is a loving Creator

> which has our very best interests at heart and in mind, and if we can calm

> our fears enough to hear the still small voice we carry within our own

> being given us by that Creator, we might just get a glimpse of a new and

> better world and begin to manifest that.

>

> I also want to express my gratitude to you for your very well thought out

> and thought provoking posts.  It has been through your posts, I have been

> able to let go of some of my staunch libertarian views and to see the 

> value

> in certain public enterprises.  I'm not yet sure health care ought to be

> one of them; especially, given that my view of the current corporate

> controlled system is killing us, but I do think I'm starting to see there

> might be a way of doing this.  Did you know that the very first hospital 

> on

> our continent was established by Benjamin Franklin as a means of caring 

> for

> the homeless sick and mentally ill folks on the streets of Philadelphia. 

> I

> think good ole Ben was onto something, and I think it was by no accident

> that it was a public enterprise and not a corporate controlled profit

> center.

>

> Thanks for listening,

> Robin

> www.healthforlifecoloncare.com

> www.traditionalnutrition.org

> www.ppnf.org

> "Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food."

>                                     --Hippocrates  (460-377 B.C.)

>            Just be careful how you define food ;-)

>

> "The purpose of medicine is to amuse the patient until nature effects a

> cure."

>                                      -- Voltaire (1694-1778)

>

> "Doctors pour medicines of which they know little to cure diseases of 

> which

>     they no less into humans of which they know nothing."

>                                      -- Voltaire (1694-1778)

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Chuck Minne [SMTP:mincam2 at yahoo.com]

> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 17:36

> To: September 11 List 2; Connie Smith

> Subject: Re: [CitizensTruth] Why be on this list if...

>

> Connie, I am on this list because I want to know the truth (or at least

> what others perceive it to be.) I'm not sure that I ever will. In fact, I

> don't think it is entirely possible. I'd be happy if I thought I came

> reasonably close.

>

> Before 911, I actually thought it was possible to be fairly well informed.

> However, 911 has made me almost a complete an unbeliever. I feel confident

> that schoolbooks of 2020 will be full of lies. So why not the schoolbooks

> of 1990? 1890? etc.?

>

> I belong to Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth. Their goal is to

> enlighten Congress. When talking to one of their organizers, I asked, 

> "What

> makes you think Congress is on our side?" She had no answer.

>

> I have come to the conclusion that people do not want to know the "truth,"

> or if they already do, they don't want to admit it. I truly hope I am

> wrong, and that you can prove me so.

>

> It is my guess that we are the work of aliens - but damned if I know or

> even believe that. And that goes for just about everything.

>

> I think our world revolves about greed - but that is just another guess.

>

> Tell me I'm wrong about any of this. that's fine with me - maybe I'll 

> learn

> something. Which is why I am here.

>

>

>

> AMY GOODMAN: We're talking to Wendell Potter. For twenty years he was an

> executive at CIGNA and Humana. Most importantly, in the years at CIGNA, he

> was their chief corporate spokesperson, but has left to blow the whistle 

> on

> insurance companies.

>

> WENDELL POTTER: Well, clearly, this senator [Chuck Grassley] has the

> insurance industry's best interests at heart, not the American public and

> not his constituents.

>

> He has said that he didn't think a public plan would be fair, compete

> fairly with insurance companies who-the private insurance industry. I'd

> like to ask him what is fair about the way that the insurance industries

> operate today, the companies that dump sick people when they need 

> insurance

> most. What is fair about the way the insurance industry operates, Senator

> Grassley?

>

> AMY GOODMAN: Forty-five million new customers, that's what the private

> insurance companies can now look forward to, if a bill like what came out

> of the Senate Finance Committee moves forward with the mandate. Explain 

> how

> they will make out and how important, how significant, how profitable this

> is for the for-profit companies.

>

> WENDELL POTTER: Yeah, this is the first time that the insurance industry

> has really seen great opportunity in healthcare reform, with an individual

> mandate, which would require all of us to buy insurance if we are not

> eligible for a public, government-run program, which, fortunately, many

> people are. We would have to buy it in the private market from insurance

> companies, many of whom-many of which are for-profit companies. We would

> not have the option of buying or getting insurance through a 

> government-run

> program like the public option would create.

>

> So, not only would our premium dollars go into this-into the private

> insurance industry, but a lot of tax dollars would. Most people who don't

> have insurance can't afford it, and they wouldn't be able to afford it

> after healthcare reform is passed without the government subsidizing their

> premiums. So billions and billions of taxpayers' dollars will flow right

> into the treasuries of these big for-profit insurance companies. So we 

> will

> be essentially paying a tax that will help support these insurance

> companies. It will be an enormous bailout of the health insurance 

> industry.

>

> --- On Fri, 10/2/09, Connie Smith <dimension04 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>

>

> From: Connie Smith <dimension04 at sbcglobal.net>

> Subject: [CitizensTruth] Why be on this list if...

> To: "September 11 List 2" <citizenstruth at six.pairlist.net>

> Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 5:05 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Regarding a few comments that are going around, pertaining to the NY 

> ballot

> efforts, Daniel Sunjata, etc:

>

> Why on earth would anyone be on a 9/11 Truth list if they doubt the truth

> WILL break through?  One comment was an overt demoralization attempt -- 

> which is like attempted sabotage.  The other was all about confusion -- 

> which at very least, isn't helpful.

>

> Of course there's mythology in our history, but the good stories aren't 

> the

> problem. America does have a foundation of ideals, and there are healthy

> kernels of truth and goodness even if some events are exaggerated.

>

> The problem comes in with lack of truth about the "bad" stories -- lack of

> awareness of how brutal and arrogant many US policies actually have been

> and continue to be.

>

> America:  all good, no bad -- this has been the LIE unconscionably taught

> to us, to generations of schoolchildren.  This is what has most Americans

> living in the matrix of ignorance -- and why the perpetrators of 9/11 were

> pretty sure they could get away with it.

>

> But I'm convinced the unprecedented level of global awareness and activism

> are reaching critical mass -- and ALL the lies -- especially about history

> and religion -- are soon going to come rushing out in a tsunami of truth.

> Our main task then is to help people adjust -- as we have had to do -- to

> the shock.  And then to help build an entirely new and shining future 

> based

> on good-hearted realism instead of the evil agendas humanity has long been

> suffering.

>

> Connie

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