<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><b>The Ultimate 9/11 'Truth' Showdown: David Ray Griffin vs. Matt Taibbi</b></div></div><div><a href="http://www.alternet.org/rights/100688">http://www.alternet.org/rights/100688</a></div><div><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Verdana" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Verdana; ">Here's how I see it: </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Verdana" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Verdana; ">Logic vs. journalism. Critical thinking vs. bluster.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Verdana; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Verdana" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Verdana; ">Taibbi is in over his head. Typical for these times, he doesn't let that stop him from taking a position and noisily defending it.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Verdana; min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Interesting how sensitive this topic is. Often when you threaten someone's world view, they stop making sense. </span></div><div><br></div><div>It's about as satisfying as the pseudo-debates we see on TV for president and vice president. But that should not be surprising. There is a fundamental dialogue going on that surfaces in one area after another.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim Kenney, who was keynote speaker at A Better Day on 9/20 (better-day.info) talks about sea change:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; ">TWO WAVES </span></div><div><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 16.0px 0.0px"><font face="Times" size="5" style="font: 16.0px Times"><br> Imagine an ocean moment…two waves converging in the same time and space. One is powerful but subsiding, the other just gathering momentum and presence but not yet cresting. At the moment of their meeting they are nearly equal in amplitude and influence. As they cross, who can say which is rising, which descends? In that moment there is only the chaos of wave interference, as the medium of interaction is utterly changed. Now take another moment and imagine modernity as a powerful wave of cultural values that crested half a century ago and is now slowly beginning to subside. A second wave of countervailing values rises equally slowly, building until its cresting amplitude begins to rival the declining energy of the older wave. </font></p></div><div><div><div><div><a href="http://www.interreligiousinsight.org/July2004/July04Kenney.html">http://www.interreligiousinsight.org/July2004/July04Kenney.html</a></div><div><br></div><div> - Hal</div></div></div><div></div></div></body></html>