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Thanks for sending this Ragen as there's good discussion here.<br><br>I
am not familiar at all with Griffin's work, but I would have to
respectfully disagree with a lot of the analysis and I think both of
these movies are well worth anyone's time. To characterize a truth
seeking film as "very dangerous" is what is very dangerous. You don't
have to agree with every detail in order to gain some knowledge and
find some truth. I find the alarm about this movie from people who are
supposedly on the same side to be much more alarming than the movie
itself.<br><br>I would also caution anyone who takes Alex Jones as the
ultimate beacon of truth and correctness because while I admire and
respect his work, I have read plenty of articles that turn out to be
more hype than truth and this undying fervent support for Ron Paul,
(while completely ignoring the amazing work of others like Cynthia
McKinney) while wonderful and helpful has served as a distraction a lot
of times from the fact that the system is not going to allow a Ron Paul
into power no matter how much the people might want it - and to ignore
that is to ignore the challenging realities we face.<br><br>So let's review briefly what this movie does:<br><br>The movie correctly exposes the Federal Reserve for what it is and how it works - well gee that is super and great - thanks!<br><br>The
movie says that politicians (yes EVEN Ron Paul) are not the answer -
look, I think making small gains inside the system is certainly a good
thing, but if we don't recognize that people like Ron Paul and Dennis
Kucinich, as wonderful as they are, are also there to make people like
us feel like we might have a voice and a solution inside a system so we
become paralyzed by the system waiting for the day that the system
might change is an endless excercise in stupidity. I think the bailout
is a perfect example.... Obama and McCain are both in step with the
plan AND the Dems are about to come into big power, so DEMS largely
support the hideous Bush/Paulson plan while the GOP suddenly became
"the opposition" (partly due to wanting to be re-elected) but gosh darn
if it just wasn't enough oppostion to actually make the people's voice
matter for more than a few days. Kucinich and Paul and many others
spoke the truth during this time, but the truth lost out to the bigger
power again. Hmmmmmm.... <br><br>I'm not saying we need to give up
entirely working with politicians - but to say that politicians are not
the answer is not to give up hope as Mr. Griffin suggests, on the
contrary that is what sets us free, for once we realize that the
solution lies elsewhere we can start to work to create the world we all
deserve without the false hope that a politician will arrive and save
the day (much like most Dems believe about Obama)<br><br>And John
Perkins NEVER says that the Dictators in Latin America are good guys,
he says that 2 of them were basically decent guys partly because they
said NO to US interests and US meddling because they wanted to actually
help their own people and those 2 guys were both assassinated by the
US/CIA. <br><br>Mr Griffin goes on to endlessly rip on the solutions
offered in the movie. First i want to point out that the movie spends
almost an hour on the solution aspect which immediately seperates it
from most documentaries - the movie is not just bitching and exposing
like most - but offering an in-depth alternative.<br><br>And the
alternative suggested? To abandon a monetary based society. WOW! ok,
does anyone want to argue that a monetary based society has done well
for the people, plants, animals of the world? Does anyone here not
think that the current financial system is being used to give
everything to the few and enslave the rest?<br><br>So why are the undies in a bunch over the idea of getting rid of that system? <br><br>I
personally have no clue how a world goes about getting a system like
this in place - that is an obvious hurdle - but frankly it is the most
plausible, viable solution to the worlds problems I have ever read
about and I get that the solution is radical and all, but I think we
could all agree that our current situation calls for radical
out-of-the-box thinking.<br><br>Take a look for yourself at the ideas
offered up by "The Venus Project" and I think you will see this is not
as scary and ideological as Griffin tries to make it out to be:<br><br>http://www.thevenusproject.com/resource_eco.htm<br><br>And
I'm not really sure this needs to turn into a religious debate also....
BUT the fact that Griffin gets all huffy & puffy that Religion
plays a part in this is terribly strange. <br><br>Someone here please
count up the # of people who have been murdered and tortured in the
name of Christianity/Catholosism and then look me straight in the eye
and tell me what a great religion it is. Tell me that the powers that
be, who brought you 9-11, would think twice about spewing religious
nonsense in order to control the people. My gosh! the bible has a
sure-fire built-in control mechanism they call: HELL. That's right
kids, believe all this or YOU ARE GOING TO HELL!! Really? Is that how
Jesus works? obay his way or you are tortured for eternity? Is that
compassion? So an autistic child will spend his life in hell? So a
kid who is born and raised in a muslim household is going to HELL?
PAH-LEASE! And have you ever notice how the book is dominated with the
belief that we are powerless - god is powerful and so we ask god to
help us and we give up our power instead of realizing that perhaps,
just maybe, we are all a part of god and therefore the power lies
within us to change ourselves and change the world. So please take
back your own power first if you want to help take back this world.<br><br>love<br><br>Andrew<br /><hr />See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. <a href='http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/' target='_new'>See Now</a></body>
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