air angels crash

[Kerry Lynn Dudley]

I think the total lost souls in the last 16 or 18 months we have lost 36 
souls    www.safemedflight.com   has a area listing the loss of these 
Hero's, they will add names and such if not listed. They are in the 
forefront of getting safety bills past there is currently 3 should have 
hearings in D.C. after the first of the year. You want a say in these new 
bills go to their site they go over each bill and gives contact info for 
reps and so much more. You want a say and Help shape new safety regulations 
have input, truly we in this Air Evac field know much more intimately our 
field better than the paper pushers. So Please go to  safe Med Flight web 
page.  We want better safety in the air it is up to us get our voices heard, 
not just complaining but stepping up and voicing our opinions of what will 
work what will not, We are our own best advocate for us and the future Air 
Evac employee's also our patients  whom we have vowed to serve and do no 
harm. also My son May be in the Air next to me. He is a Medical Specialist 
with the 3 ID Army.  would like to possibly continue in civilian life.

Crazy factoid; It is really strange to fly half way around the world to do a 
critical DOD patient injured in the War in Iraq, Guess who I find taking 
care of my patient, My Son who happens to be my Hero, just shows we are all 
in this together.

So support, Have a say, get it right, Stand for the souls lost and the ones 
you could be helping to save.

I know I keep talking about  safe med flight but they are working so hard to 
save lives in honor of family members lost and making it a better chance we 
will come home to our loved ones every nite.
so PLEASE check out the site. We need to be heard and also not allow the 
corporate culture to be the one having the greatest input, we know that $$ 
figure into a corporations bottom line and the increased requirements for 
aircraft and sim training, education  will be increase that hits very heavy 
on bottom line. So step up and save our own lives by supporting increased 
safety regulations our families and loved ones will benefit tremendously, 
when we arrive alive home to hold them.

www.safemedflight.com

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From: <msuldo at aol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:10 AM
To: <flightmed at flightweb.com>
Subject: Re: air angels crash


> you have to be careful who you listen to, "facts" aren't always "facts". 

> If they can't get that right - what else are they missing? I can think of 

> at least 3?accidents (most with multiple people killed) and I am sure 

> there are more with 2 pilot crews.

> North Carolina? B412

> Kentucky? S-76

> Miami Childrens? S-76

>

> I am sure that there are more.

>

> Many US programs do fly 2 pilots

>

> Arkansas Childrens

> Miami childrens

> Cleveland Metro (I believe they still do)

> Most any program in an S76

>

> Many more

>

> Real simple

> use the right helicopter for the program needs,

> equip it well,

> great pilot selection

> even better pilot training with lots of sim time

> Keep the hospital/medical people out of the flight decisions

> audit with real auditors - not CAMTS

>

> I ran 7 aeromedical programs for PHI years ago and could go on for hours 

> on the topic (and have several times at AMTC) and 200 helicopters for 

> Bristow for 5 years until 2 weeks ago

> Can it be fixed? - yes

> would all current programs survive - no

> should they - no

>

> regards

> Mike Suldo

> probably will buy you a beer at AMTC

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Godfrey, Jonathan <JGodfrey at cnmc.org>

> To: Flightmed <flightmed at flightweb.com>; Flightmed 

> <flightmed at flightweb.com>

> Sent: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:55 pm

> Subject: RE: air angels crash

>

>

>

> Personal VIGILANCE ... accountability. Not just safety and rule making, 

> That is

> the seceret weapon.

>

> we can have all the tools but lose personal vigilance ... lives are lost 

> ...

> again

>

> DO NOT BE NUMBER 10 ... we cannot have it.

>

> Jonathan Godfrey RN, CMTE

> Transport Coordinator, Division of Transport Medicine

> Children's National Medical Center

> 111 Michigan Avenue N.W.

> Washington, D.C. 20010-2970

> Pager:  (202) 259-1475

> Cell: (202) 327-0521 (NEW)

> Email:  Jgodfrey at cnmc.org

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: flightmed-bounces at flightweb.com on behalf of Michael Nelson

> Sent: Thu 10/16/2008 10:16 PM

> To: 'Flightmed'

> Subject: RE: air angels crash

>

>

>

> The Crash this summer in Michigan, on the rooftop, had two pilots upfront, 

> a

> company pilot and an FAA examiner, didn't do much for situational 

> awareness

> that day either.

>

> NVG, don't work well in urban areas

> HTAWS, doesn't work at all

>

> So what does work?  EDUCATION, EDUCATION, EDUCATION, and when that fails

> educate some more.

>

> Part 135 is a joke, designed for "air Taxi" not EMS.  Let's get real about

> the problem.  EMS is its own animal, and needs it own rules, with people 

> in

> the FAA who know what we do, and stop trying to make us follow flight

> attendant rules.  IMHO, it's time to scrap the entire system, and build it

> with an end result in mind, instead of throwing more useless technology at 

> a

> problem that already exists.

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: flightmed-bounces at flightweb.com

> [mailto:flightmed-bounces at flightweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard D. Cook

> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:02 PM

> To: 'Flightmed'

> Subject: RE: air angels crash

>

> No question that two pilots would increase the safety by putting another

> person with equal interpretive and decision making skills up front.

> However, I am personally aware of an EMS rotor wing crash in NC several

> years ago in which there were two pilots up front.  All souls were lost.

> This was not an unusual circumstance such as a ferry or test flight.  It 

> was

> a patient transport.  This was a program that regularly flew (and pro

> bably

> still does) with two pilot

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: flightmed-bounces at flightweb.com

> [mailto:flightmed-bounces at flightweb.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly Harrell

> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:56 PM

> To: jgodfrey at cnmc.org; Flightmed

> Cc: Karen Hersman

> Subject: Re: air angels crash

>

> What about this....at the Safety Summit in Dallas a few months ago they

> showed statistics that said there has never been a crash with two pilots 

> on

> board. I say require two pilots. Not cost effective? In my mind it is 

> worth

> it. Why aren't we requiring night vision, TAWS, etc. Minimum aircraft

> requirements? How about clear guidelines (criteria) for flying versus 

> ground

> based solely on patient condition. How about review and penalties for

> unwarranted flights? Just a few of my thoughts. Sorry but this is getting

> scary! Today I spent time wondering, was the Maryland pilot possibly one 

> of

> the great guys who taught water egress at AMTC? Was this crew today at any

> of the conferences I went to this year? Was I having fun with them 

> recently

> and now they are gone? Will we be soon at one crew a month killed? Count 

> the

> patient and we can be at one person a week! better odds than the lottery.

>  ----- Original Message -----

>  From: jgodfrey at cnmc.org<mailto:jgodfrey at cnmc.org>

>  To: Flightmed<mailto:flightmed at flightweb.com>

>  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:55 AM

>  Subject: Re: air angels crash

>

>

>  Talking to ABC news today ... Any thoughts?

>  Sent from BlackBerryR Blue skies and tail winds!!

>

>  -----Original Message-----

>  From: irajb at aol.com<mailto:irajb at aol.com>

>

>  Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:51:55

>  To: <flightmed at flightweb.com<mailto:flightmed at flightweb.com>>

>  Subject: Re: air angels crash

>

>

>  Yep.

>  This sucks.

>

>

>

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