From rescuemedic at gmail.com Mon Apr 6 07:53:20 2009 From: rescuemedic at gmail.com (Gurkan Ozel) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:53:20 +0300 Subject: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy Message-ID: <42ba38640904060453h7d47166amcb7d0154ab4b258b@mail.gmail.com> Hi list, Is anyone aware of a guideline specified for air transport of patients with lobectomy? Is it an absolute contraindication? What do I need to pay attention to when transferring patients with one-sided lobectomy at max altitude of 7,000 ft in EC 135/145s.? Thanks for your input, Gurkan Ozel, CCEMT-P Ankara, Turkey From JPufahl at smdc.org Mon Apr 6 08:47:33 2009 From: JPufahl at smdc.org (Pufahl, Jo M.) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:47:33 -0500 Subject: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy In-Reply-To: <42ba38640904060453h7d47166amcb7d0154ab4b258b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9B1E85EB3C01204E9AFEBC46BC8EE50F01357A45@BARRED.ntcampus.smdc.org> None that I am aware of. Jo Pufahl, RN, BAN, CEN, CFRN Assistant Head Nurse St. Mary's LifeFlight -----Original Message----- From: flightmed-bounces at flightweb.com [mailto:flightmed-bounces at flightweb.com]On Behalf Of Gurkan Ozel Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:53 AM To: flightmed at flightweb.com Subject: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy Hi list, Is anyone aware of a guideline specified for air transport of patients with lobectomy? Is it an absolute contraindication? What do I need to pay attention to when transferring patients with one-sided lobectomy at max altitude of 7,000 ft in EC 135/145s.? Thanks for your input, Gurkan Ozel, CCEMT-P Ankara, Turkey _______________________________________________ Flightmed mailing list To unsubscribe or change your email address, go to http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/flightmed This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. As required by federal and state laws, you need to hold this information as privileged and confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments. From TMabe at unch.unc.edu Mon Apr 6 08:49:15 2009 From: TMabe at unch.unc.edu (Mabe, Tiffany) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:49:15 -0400 Subject: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy Message-ID: None that I am aware of. We transfer pts of this nature frequently, and I have never had any issues. Thanks, Tiffany G. Mabe, RRT-NPS,RCP,CICP -----Original Message----- From: flightmed-bounces at flightweb.com To: flightmed at flightweb.com Sent: Mon Apr 06 07:53:20 2009 Subject: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy Hi list, Is anyone aware of a guideline specified for air transport of patients with lobectomy? Is it an absolute contraindication? What do I need to pay attention to when transferring patients with one-sided lobectomy at max altitude of 7,000 ft in EC 135/145s.? Thanks for your input, Gurkan Ozel, CCEMT-P Ankara, Turkey _______________________________________________ Flightmed mailing list To unsubscribe or change your email address, go to http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/flightmed From flygal234 at aol.com Mon Apr 6 08:51:52 2009 From: flygal234 at aol.com (Marianne Jordan) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:51:52 -0500 Subject: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy In-Reply-To: <42ba38640904060453h7d47166amcb7d0154ab4b258b@mail.gmail.com> References: <42ba38640904060453h7d47166amcb7d0154ab4b258b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <530B9A98-AE46-49DA-B8E2-8E0FD68378F8@aol.com> To me it depends on how long ago the surgery was. If it was recent, be sure there is no remaining pneumoencephalus. Marianne Jordan, RN, LP Houston, Tx On Apr 6, 2009, at 6:53 AM, Gurkan Ozel wrote: > Hi list, > > Is anyone aware of a guideline specified for air transport of > patients with > lobectomy? Is it an absolute contraindication? What do I need to pay > attention to when transferring patients with one-sided lobectomy at > max > altitude of 7,000 ft in EC 135/145s.? > > > Thanks for your input, > > > Gurkan Ozel, CCEMT-P > Ankara, Turkey > _______________________________________________ > Flightmed mailing list > To unsubscribe or change your email address, go to http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/flightmed > From davidk8084 at aol.com Mon Apr 6 10:55:50 2009 From: davidk8084 at aol.com (davidk8084 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:55:50 -0400 Subject: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy In-Reply-To: <530B9A98-AE46-49DA-B8E2-8E0FD68378F8@aol.com> References: <42ba38640904060453h7d47166amcb7d0154ab4b258b@mail.gmail.com> <530B9A98-AE46-49DA-B8E2-8E0FD68378F8@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CB84DEE8D34456-888-2F8@webmail-de15.sysops.aol.com> A few questions: What kind of lobectomy are you talking about? Pulmonary or cerebral? What is the starting altitude? The absolute isn't as important as the total change. How long ago? Is any kind of vent or drain in place? If pulmonary, is the patient mechanically ventilated? This just requires more vigilant observation. David Kearns Flight For Life Colorado -----Original Message----- From: Marianne Jordan To: Flightmed Sent: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 6:51 am Subject: Re: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy To me it depends on how long ago the surgery was. If it was recent, be sure there is no remaining pneumoencephalus.? ? Marianne Jordan, RN, LP? Houston, Tx? ? On Apr 6, 2009, at 6:53 AM, Gurkan Ozel wrote:? ? > Hi list,? >? > Is anyone aware of a guideline specified for air transport of > patients with? > lobectomy? Is it an absolute contraindication? What do I need to pay? > attention to when transferring patients with one-sided lobectomy at > max? > altitude of 7,000 ft in EC 135/145s.?? >? >? > Thanks for your input,? >? >? > Gurkan Ozel, CCEMT-P? > Ankara, Turkey? > _______________________________________________? > Flightmed mailing list? > To unsubscribe or change your email address, go to http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/flightmed? >? ? _______________________________________________? Flightmed mailing list? To unsubscribe or change your email address, go to http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/flightmed? ? From reesor_t at yahoo.co.uk Mon Apr 6 11:56:59 2009 From: reesor_t at yahoo.co.uk (Ted Reesor) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:56:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy Message-ID: <859559.54400.qm@web27101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Another question is whether the bone flap/skull cap was replaced or kept for later placement. Depending on the nature of the transport vehicle (helo vs Lear), the G forces on the body may have a more significant effect than the changes in altitude. Ted Reesor, RRT Burlington, Ontario From rescuemedic at gmail.com Mon Apr 6 12:26:04 2009 From: rescuemedic at gmail.com (Gurkan Ozel) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:26:04 +0300 Subject: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy Message-ID: <42ba38640904060926h3d52c80awac985f991662b5f9@mail.gmail.com> Thank you all for your kind inputs. 55 y/o male undergoes right sided pulmonary lobectomy 20 days ago due to CA. A drain was reinserted 4 days ago due to infection developed. Patient wants to continue at a hospital near home. 1 hour and 45 minutes of transport time is expected. Patient breathing spontaneously, needs O2 via nasal cannula. Starting altitude is about 2,000 feet, with a total of 5,000 feet of gain expected in transit. Gurkan Ozel, CCEMT-P Ankara, Turkey > > Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:55:50 -0400 > From: davidk8084 at aol.com > Subject: Re: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy > To: flightmed at flightweb.com > Message-ID: <8CB84DEE8D34456-888-2F8 at webmail-de15.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > A few questions: > > What kind of lobectomy are you talking about? Pulmonary or cerebral? > > What is the starting altitude? The absolute isn't as important as the total > change. > > How long ago? Is any kind of vent or drain in place? > > If pulmonary, is the patient mechanically ventilated? This just requires > more vigilant observation. > > David Kearns > Flight For Life Colorado > From aosgood at maine.rr.com Mon Apr 6 12:34:42 2009 From: aosgood at maine.rr.com (Aaron D. Osgood) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:34:42 -0400 Subject: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy In-Reply-To: <42ba38640904060926h3d52c80awac985f991662b5f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <42ba38640904060926h3d52c80awac985f991662b5f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01d301c9b6d5$97198090$c54c81b0$@rr.com> Rotor craft or fixed wing? -----Original Message----- From: flightmed-bounces at flightweb.com [mailto:flightmed-bounces at flightweb.com] On Behalf Of Gurkan Ozel Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:26 PM To: flightmed at flightweb.com Subject: Re: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy Thank you all for your kind inputs. 55 y/o male undergoes right sided pulmonary lobectomy 20 days ago due to CA. A drain was reinserted 4 days ago due to infection developed. Patient wants to continue at a hospital near home. 1 hour and 45 minutes of transport time is expected. Patient breathing spontaneously, needs O2 via nasal cannula. Starting altitude is about 2,000 feet, with a total of 5,000 feet of gain expected in transit. Gurkan Ozel, CCEMT-P Ankara, Turkey > > Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:55:50 -0400 > From: davidk8084 at aol.com > Subject: Re: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy > To: flightmed at flightweb.com > Message-ID: <8CB84DEE8D34456-888-2F8 at webmail-de15.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > A few questions: > > What kind of lobectomy are you talking about? Pulmonary or cerebral? > > What is the starting altitude? The absolute isn't as important as the total > change. > > How long ago? Is any kind of vent or drain in place? > > If pulmonary, is the patient mechanically ventilated? This just requires > more vigilant observation. > > David Kearns > Flight For Life Colorado > _______________________________________________ Flightmed mailing list To unsubscribe or change your email address, go to http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/flightmed From amydayre at hotmail.com Mon Apr 6 12:57:25 2009 From: amydayre at hotmail.com (Amy Richardson-Ochle) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:57:25 -0400 Subject: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy In-Reply-To: <42ba38640904060926h3d52c80awac985f991662b5f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <42ba38640904060926h3d52c80awac985f991662b5f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I would watch for s/sx of tension, make sure drain (assuming it is a chest tube?) stays patent, and be aware that the patient may need higher concentration of O2, and may increase respiratory rate in transit. I have transported pts just like this in an EC135 without incident. Good luck and fly safe. Amy R. Ochle, RN > Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:26:04 +0300 > Subject: Re: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy > From: rescuemedic at gmail.com > To: flightmed at flightweb.com > > Thank you all for your kind inputs. > > 55 y/o male undergoes right sided pulmonary lobectomy 20 days ago due to CA. > A drain was reinserted 4 days ago due to infection developed. Patient wants > to continue at a hospital near home. > > 1 hour and 45 minutes of transport time is expected. Patient breathing > spontaneously, needs O2 via nasal cannula. > > Starting altitude is about 2,000 feet, with a total of 5,000 feet of gain > expected in transit. > > > Gurkan Ozel, CCEMT-P > Ankara, Turkey > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:55:50 -0400 > > From: davidk8084 at aol.com > > Subject: Re: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy > > To: flightmed at flightweb.com > > Message-ID: <8CB84DEE8D34456-888-2F8 at webmail-de15.sysops.aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > A few questions: > > > > What kind of lobectomy are you talking about? Pulmonary or cerebral? > > > > What is the starting altitude? The absolute isn't as important as the total > > change. > > > > How long ago? Is any kind of vent or drain in place? > > > > If pulmonary, is the patient mechanically ventilated? This just requires > > more vigilant observation. > > > > David Kearns > > Flight For Life Colorado > > > _______________________________________________ > Flightmed mailing list > To unsubscribe or change your email address, go to http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/flightmed > _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail?: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile1_042009 From rescuemedic at gmail.com Wed Apr 8 00:08:01 2009 From: rescuemedic at gmail.com (Gurkan Ozel) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:08:01 +0300 Subject: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy Message-ID: <42ba38640904072108v325c5er70e99737503f4439@mail.gmail.com> Rotor wing, either EC-135 or EC-145 depending on which aircraft is available on the day of transfer. About 250 aeronautical miles of distance will be gone. Gurkan Ozel, CCEMT-P Ankara, Turkey > Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:34:42 -0400 > From: "Aaron D. Osgood" > Subject: RE: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy > To: "'Flightmed'" > Message-ID: <01d301c9b6d5$97198090$c54c81b0$@rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Rotor craft or fixed wing? > > -----Original Message----- > From: flightmed-bounces at flightweb.com > [mailto:flightmed-bounces at flightweb.com] On Behalf Of Gurkan Ozel > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:26 PM > To: flightmed at flightweb.com > Subject: Re: Air Transfer of Patients with Lobectomy > > Thank you all for your kind inputs. > > 55 y/o male undergoes right sided pulmonary lobectomy 20 days ago due to > CA. > A drain was reinserted 4 days ago due to infection developed. Patient wants > to continue at a hospital near home. > > 1 hour and 45 minutes of transport time is expected. Patient breathing > spontaneously, needs O2 via nasal cannula. > > Starting altitude is about 2,000 feet, with a total of 5,000 feet of gain > expected in transit. > > > Gurkan Ozel, CCEMT-P > Ankara, Turkey > > > From mcgranem at SLRMC.ORG Wed Apr 8 13:48:40 2009 From: mcgranem at SLRMC.ORG (Michael McGrane) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:48:40 -0600 Subject: Sky Connect Message-ID: Has anyone been having issues with dropped Sky Connect signals - especially during weather? We are trying to track down any patterns. Michael McGrane, RN, MSN, CCRN Director, Air St. Luke's St. Luke's Regional Medical Center 190 E Bannock Street Boise, ID 83712 (208) 706-5411 Dispatch 1-877-785-8537 "TWEF " made the following annotations. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This message is intended for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential or privileged, the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify us immediately and destroy the related message." ============================================================================== From sstamnes at countyrescue.com Thu Apr 9 12:14:59 2009 From: sstamnes at countyrescue.com (Stamnes, Shaun) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:14:59 -0500 Subject: Flightmed Digest, Vol 67, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <463475DF9A67D711A60F0003471B7A4B015CADC6@crsnt1.countyrescue.com> Michael: We have had occasional issues with dropped signals but it has no discernable pattern. The larger issue came after the Iridium satellite collided with the other satellite. This has caused a gap in coverage. >From what I have heard Sky Connect is working to get a new satellite up to take the place of wrecked one. I don't know when that will happen though. Lt. Shaun Stamnes NREMT-P, CCEMT-P Air Medical Coordinator EAGLE III Green Bay, WI www.eagle3.org Tel: 920-469-9779 ext 130 Fax: 920-694-6012 Message: 1 Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:48:40 -0600 From: "Michael McGrane" Subject: Sky Connect To: flightmed at flightweb.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Has anyone been having issues with dropped Sky Connect signals - especially during weather? We are trying to track down any patterns. Michael McGrane, RN, MSN, CCRN Director, Air St. Luke's St. Luke's Regional Medical Center 190 E Bannock Street Boise, ID 83712 (208) 706-5411 Dispatch 1-877-785-8537 From kldflightrrt at hotmail.com Thu Apr 9 13:57:55 2009 From: kldflightrrt at hotmail.com (Kerry Lynn Dudley) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:57:55 -0400 Subject: Flightmed Digest, Vol 67, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <463475DF9A67D711A60F0003471B7A4B015CADC6@crsnt1.countyrescue.com> References: <463475DF9A67D711A60F0003471B7A4B015CADC6@crsnt1.countyrescue.com> Message-ID: I had herd that Iridium had a back up satellite already in orbit they just moved it into position. I thought flight aware posted that information on the daily email mailing. I could be wrong, but I am 95% sure this happened. Call Iridium they will know for sure. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stamnes, Shaun" Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:14 PM To: Subject: RE: Flightmed Digest, Vol 67, Issue 4 > Michael: > > We have had occasional issues with dropped signals but it has no > discernable pattern. The larger issue came after the Iridium satellite > collided with the other satellite. This has caused a gap in coverage. >>From what I have heard Sky Connect is working to get a new satellite up > to take the place of wrecked one. I don't know when that will happen > though. > > Lt. Shaun Stamnes NREMT-P, CCEMT-P > Air Medical Coordinator > EAGLE III > Green Bay, WI > www.eagle3.org > > Tel: 920-469-9779 ext 130 > Fax: 920-694-6012 > > > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:48:40 -0600 > From: "Michael McGrane" > Subject: Sky Connect > To: flightmed at flightweb.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Has anyone been having issues with dropped Sky Connect signals - > especially during weather? We are trying to track down any patterns. > > Michael McGrane, RN, MSN, CCRN > Director, Air St. Luke's > St. Luke's Regional Medical Center > 190 E Bannock Street > Boise, ID 83712 > (208) 706-5411 > Dispatch 1-877-785-8537 > > _______________________________________________ > Flightmed mailing list > To unsubscribe or change your email address, go to > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/flightmed > >