From gregg at lowrimore.com  Wed Jul  9 14:00:53 2008
From: gregg at lowrimore.com (Gregg Lowrimore)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:00:53 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
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Message-ID: <820743F8-F387-4809-A389-BAF036A6BFC6@lowrimore.com>

How come this mail list is sooooo quiet these days? Isn't anybody  
around? Or I hope, it's just that we're all out shooting!

greggl

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From tundrawinds at earthlink.net  Wed Jul  9 14:17:07 2008
From: tundrawinds at earthlink.net (Donna Dannen)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:17:07 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
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From gregg at lowrimore.com  Wed Jul  9 14:29:20 2008
From: gregg at lowrimore.com (Gregg Lowrimore)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:29:20 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
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Go to know that you're still on board here and that the things I send  
out occasionally are indeed useful.  I'm not really sure if anyone is  
a "member" since we don't charge dues. So I guess you're a member just  
by your participation.

I also posted some imagery up on my personal site that I'd welcome any  
comments on too!

What have you been shooting? What techie help did you need? We have a  
slew of techies here on this list (if one can ever get them to step  
away from their computers!)

On Jul 9, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Donna Dannen wrote:

> Greg,
>
> I don't post, but I do lurk here.....not sure I'm really a member  
> anymore, but wanted you to know I've taken advantage several times  
> of the online special offers you've sent out. (and  
> recently)....mostly for flash cards and the like.  I also really  
> enjoyed hearing about the D700, etc. before the premier.  Keep it  
> coming!  I enjoyed you guys when I had the chance.  ........Oh, and  
> yes, I have been out photographing -- probably more than I've done  
> in years.  Since I desperately need techie help, I'll just keep  
> lurking if you don't mind that I'm still here.
>
> Donna Dannen
>
> Evergreen, Colorado
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregg Lowrimore
> Sent: Jul 9, 2008 12:00 PM
> To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
> Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
>
> How come this mail list is sooooo quiet these days? Isn't anybody  
> around? Or I hope, it's just that we're all out shooting!
>
> greggl
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "Mpix.com" <newsletter at mpix.com>
>> Date: July 9, 2008 11:33:26 AM MDT
>> To: gregg at lowrimore.com
>> Subject: 25% Off Business Cards
>> Reply-To: customerservice at mpix.com
>>
>> Not displaying properly? Click here to view it online.
>> 		
>> 							
>> 	
>> 		
>> 	
>> 		
>> 	
>> 	
>> 										
>> Add newsletter at mpix.com to your address book or safe sender list to  
>> insure delivery of emails from Mpix.
>>
>> You have received this message from Mpix.com 610 E Jefferson  
>> Pittsburg, KS 66762. If you wish to no longer receive promotional  
>> emails from Mpix, please click here to unsubscribe. If you enjoy  
>> seeing these, please forward on to a friend.
>> Please send any questions or comments to customerservice at mpix.com.
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Gregg Lowrimore Photography
> <http://www.lowrimore.com/>
> echo 'gregg at lowrimore x com'\
>  | sed -e 's/ x /\./g' -e 's/ at /@/'
>
>
>
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> FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com
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From tundrawinds at earthlink.net  Wed Jul  9 15:07:35 2008
From: tundrawinds at earthlink.net (Donna Dannen)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:07:35 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
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From gregg at lowrimore.com  Wed Jul  9 15:29:07 2008
From: gregg at lowrimore.com (Gregg Lowrimore)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:29:07 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
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References: <7420471.1215630455706.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0F976C72-EFFF-470B-97C9-E3D311CB0E0C@lowrimore.com>

Well, I have the Spyder2Express and some other FRPSers have the basic  
Huey. For realtime adjustments, the Huey would be the way to go, since  
it's actively checking ambient light and making adjustments to your  
monitor accordingly. For basic calibration, either device will work  
wonders for your monitor, and both have easy, intuitive software to  
accompany the device. It's really easy to calibrate with either of  
these basic, under $100 devices.

Also check your Gamma settings. I forget which platform, Mac or PC,  
uses what gamma setting by default, but it's a safe plan to set your  
gamma to the PC standard to enable the most bang for your viewers.  
Images set for the PC Gamma will appeal to the most viewers. Make sense?

How's that for starters?

On Jul 9, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Donna Dannen wrote:

> Tech help???  Where do I start!!  I was at a NANPA conference this  
> spring and heard the iMAC LCD monitors rarely lose profile and don't  
> need alot of calibration.  Can anyone verify this?  That is, if the  
> current profile is a good one, I guess.  Right now I have no way to  
> calibrate and wondered if this was really true.  Alot of my photos  
> seem dark on other people's monitors (except this one at work which  
> is fading away....)  What is the best calibration system for the  
> price?  I've heard alot about the Huey Pro, or even the basic Huey  
> lately and wondered how it compared to the Spyder system, if anyone  
> knows anything about that.  I have some other questions, but need to  
> get back to student enrollment files.  Thanks in advance!  And  
> thanks for offering to be helpful.
>
> Donna
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregg Lowrimore
> Sent: Jul 9, 2008 12:29 PM
> To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
>
> Go to know that you're still on board here and that the things I  
> send out occasionally are indeed useful.  I'm not really sure if  
> anyone is a "member" since we don't charge dues. So I guess you're a  
> member just by your participation.
>
> I also posted some imagery up on my personal site that I'd welcome  
> any comments on too!
>
> What have you been shooting? What techie help did you need? We have  
> a slew of techies here on this list (if one can ever get them to  
> step away from their computers!)
>
> On Jul 9, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Donna Dannen wrote:
>
>> Greg,
>>
>> I don't post, but I do lurk here.....not sure I'm really a member  
>> anymore, but wanted you to know I've taken advantage several times  
>> of the online special offers you've sent out. (and  
>> recently)....mostly for flash cards and the like.  I also really  
>> enjoyed hearing about the D700, etc. before the premier.  Keep it  
>> coming!  I enjoyed you guys when I had the chance.  ........Oh, and  
>> yes, I have been out photographing -- probably more than I've done  
>> in years.  Since I desperately need techie help, I'll just keep  
>> lurking if you don't mind that I'm still here.
>>
>> Donna Dannen
>>
>> Evergreen, Colorado
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gregg Lowrimore
>> Sent: Jul 9, 2008 12:00 PM
>> To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
>> Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
>>
>> How come this mail list is sooooo quiet these days? Isn't anybody  
>> around? Or I hope, it's just that we're all out shooting!
>>
>> greggl
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: "Mpix.com" <newsletter at mpix.com>
>>> Date: July 9, 2008 11:33:26 AM MDT
>>> To: gregg at lowrimore.com
>>> Subject: 25% Off Business Cards
>>> Reply-To: customerservice at mpix.com
>>>
>>> Not displaying properly? Click here to view it online.
>>> 		
>>> 							
>>> 	
>>> 		
>>> 	
>>> 		
>>> 	
>>> 	
>>> 										
>>> Add newsletter at mpix.com to your address book or safe sender list  
>>> to insure delivery of emails from Mpix.
>>>
>>> You have received this message from Mpix.com 610 E Jefferson  
>>> Pittsburg, KS 66762. If you wish to no longer receive promotional  
>>> emails from Mpix, please click here to unsubscribe. If you enjoy  
>>> seeing these, please forward on to a friend.
>>> Please send any questions or comments to customerservice at mpix.com.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Gregg Lowrimore Photography
>> <http://www.lowrimore.com/>
>> echo 'gregg at lowrimore x com'\
>>  | sed -e 's/ x /\./g' -e 's/ at /@/'
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> FRPS mailing list
>> FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com
>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps
>
> --
>
> Gregg Lowrimore Photography
> <http://www.lowrimore.com/>
> echo 'gregg at lowrimore x com'\
>  | sed -e 's/ x /\./g' -e 's/ at /@/'
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com
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From tundrawinds at earthlink.net  Wed Jul  9 15:38:29 2008
From: tundrawinds at earthlink.net (Donna Dannen)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:38:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
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From sparker at parkerpress.com  Wed Jul  9 15:46:11 2008
From: sparker at parkerpress.com (Steve Parker)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:46:11 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
In-Reply-To: <28463848.1215632309484.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <28463848.1215632309484.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E546ECF2-AA5D-4EE5-A6B0-03D89905D638@parkerpress.com>

I second the suggestion on Mac vs PC gamma settings. Why they have to  
be so different, I'll never know, but if you tweak them for the Mac  
Gamma, they'll be dark on a PC. And PC images seem "bright" on a a  
Mac....

Go figure....

I don't know if the calibration would help, but I can loan you my  
"Huey" calibrator and the software. It plugs into a USB port and  
changes settings dynamically based on room lighting (it watches the  
room lighting, and makes adjustments on the fly).

Let me know if you want to "borrow it" to try it out before buying.  
It's not in active use right now... :)

Steve

-- 
Steve Parker
sparker at parkerpress.com
Home of The ParkerPress : http://www.parkerpress.com/

On Jul 9, 2008, at 1:38 PM, Donna Dannen wrote:

> Thank you!  Under $100 sounds good.  I'll look into the PC gamma  
> setting.  Yes, unfortunately, that seems to be the way of the world.
>
> Good start.....thanks.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregg Lowrimore
> Sent: Jul 9, 2008 3:29 PM
> To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
>
> Well, I have the Spyder2Express and some other FRPSers have the  
> basic Huey. For realtime adjustments, the Huey would be the way to  
> go, since it's actively checking ambient light and making  
> adjustments to your monitor accordingly. For basic calibration,  
> either device will work wonders for your monitor, and both have  
> easy, intuitive software to accompany the device. It's really easy  
> to calibrate with either of these basic, under $100 devices.
>
> Also check your Gamma settings. I forget which platform, Mac or PC,  
> uses what gamma setting by default, but it's a safe plan to set your  
> gamma to the PC standard to enable the most bang for your viewers.  
> Images set for the PC Gamma will appeal to the most viewers. Make  
> sense?
>
> How's that for starters?
>
> On Jul 9, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Donna Dannen wrote:
>
>> Tech help???  Where do I start!!  I was at a NANPA conference this  
>> spring and heard the iMAC LCD monitors rarely lose profile and  
>> don't need alot of calibration.  Can anyone verify this?  That is,  
>> if the current profile is a good one, I guess.  Right now I have no  
>> way to calibrate and wondered if this was really true.  Alot of my  
>> photos seem dark on other people's monitors (except this one at  
>> work which is fading away....)  What is the best calibration system  
>> for the price?  I've heard alot about the Huey Pro, or even the  
>> basic Huey lately and wondered how it compared to the Spyder  
>> system, if anyone knows anything about that.  I have some other  
>> questions, but need to get back to student enrollment files.   
>> Thanks in advance!  And thanks for offering to be helpful.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gregg Lowrimore
>> Sent: Jul 9, 2008 12:29 PM
>> To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
>>
>> Go to know that you're still on board here and that the things I  
>> send out occasionally are indeed useful.  I'm not really sure if  
>> anyone is a "member" since we don't charge dues. So I guess you're  
>> a member just by your participation.
>>
>> I also posted some imagery up on my personal site that I'd welcome  
>> any comments on too!
>>
>> What have you been shooting? What techie help did you need? We have  
>> a slew of techies here on this list (if one can ever get them to  
>> step away from their computers!)
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Donna Dannen wrote:
>>
>>> Greg,
>>>
>>> I don't post, but I do lurk here.....not sure I'm really a member  
>>> anymore, but wanted you to know I've taken advantage several times  
>>> of the online special offers you've sent out. (and  
>>> recently)....mostly for flash cards and the like.  I also really  
>>> enjoyed hearing about the D700, etc. before the premier.  Keep it  
>>> coming!  I enjoyed you guys when I had the chance.  ........Oh,  
>>> and yes, I have been out photographing -- probably more than I've  
>>> done in years.  Since I desperately need techie help, I'll just  
>>> keep lurking if you don't mind that I'm still here.
>>>
>>> Donna Dannen
>>>
>>> Evergreen, Colorado
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gregg Lowrimore
>>> Sent: Jul 9, 2008 12:00 PM
>>> To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
>>> Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
>>>
>>> How come this mail list is sooooo quiet these days? Isn't anybody  
>>> around? Or I hope, it's just that we're all out shooting!
>>>
>>> greggl
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: "Mpix.com" <newsletter at mpix.com>
>>>> Date: July 9, 2008 11:33:26 AM MDT
>>>> To: gregg at lowrimore.com
>>>> Subject: 25% Off Business Cards
>>>> Reply-To: customerservice at mpix.com
>>>>
>>>> Not displaying properly? Click here to view it online.
>>>> 		
>>>> 							
>>>> 	
>>>> 		
>>>> 	
>>>> 		
>>>> 	
>>>> 	
>>>> 										
>>>> Add newsletter at mpix.com to your address book or safe sender list  
>>>> to insure delivery of emails from Mpix.
>>>>
>>>> You have received this message from Mpix.com 610 E Jefferson  
>>>> Pittsburg, KS 66762. If you wish to no longer receive promotional  
>>>> emails from Mpix, please click here to unsubscribe. If you enjoy  
>>>> seeing these, please forward on to a friend.
>>>> Please send any questions or comments to customerservice at mpix.com.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Gregg Lowrimore Photography
>>> <http://www.lowrimore.com/>
>>> echo 'gregg at lowrimore x com'\
>>>  | sed -e 's/ x /\./g' -e 's/ at /@/'
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> FRPS mailing list
>>> FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com
>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps
>>
>> --
>>
>> Gregg Lowrimore Photography
>> <http://www.lowrimore.com/>
>> echo 'gregg at lowrimore x com'\
>>  | sed -e 's/ x /\./g' -e 's/ at /@/'
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> FRPS mailing list
>> FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com
>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps
>
> --
>
> Gregg Lowrimore Photography
> <http://www.lowrimore.com/>
> echo 'gregg at lowrimore x com'\
>  | sed -e 's/ x /\./g' -e 's/ at /@/'
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From tundrawinds at earthlink.net  Wed Jul  9 15:52:44 2008
From: tundrawinds at earthlink.net (Donna Dannen)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:52:44 -0400 (EDT)
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From wbsullivan at mesanetworks.net  Wed Jul  9 23:30:47 2008
From: wbsullivan at mesanetworks.net (wbsullivan)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:30:47 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
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Just returned from France - great food, wine, pictures!

wbs

 

From: frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com
[mailto:frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com] On Behalf Of Gregg
Lowrimore
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:01 PM
To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards

 

How come this mail list is sooooo quiet these days? Isn't anybody around? Or
I hope, it's just that we're all out shooting!

 

greggl

 

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From: "Mpix.com" <newsletter at mpix.com>

Date: July 9, 2008 11:33:26 AM MDT

To: gregg at lowrimore.com

Subject: 25% Off Business Cards

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From gregg at lowrimore.com  Thu Jul 10 10:16:39 2008
From: gregg at lowrimore.com (Gregg Lowrimore)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:16:39 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
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Cool! I want to see your pictures! At the next FRPS maybe?

On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:30 PM, wbsullivan wrote:

> Just returned from France ? great food, wine, pictures!

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From googlecal at lowrimore.com  Thu Jul 10 12:46:13 2008
From: googlecal at lowrimore.com (Gregg)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:46:13 -0700
Subject: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
Message-ID: <0016368e262dc7d1ba0451ae2927@google.com>

For those Canon shooters looking for a Canon-brand bag, here's a
deal....

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Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h via dealmac - 20 most recent deals. by
dealmac.com on 7/9/08 Willoughby's via Amazon.com offers the Canon
200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $26.95. (Be sure to
choose "Willoughby's" under "More Buying Choices" on the right.) With
shipping at $4.95, it's the lowest total price we could find by $1.
Designed for SLR digital cameras, the 200DG features padded side
pockets, weather-flap lid, and room for up to two SLR camera bodies,
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From tundrawinds at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 10 14:49:18 2008
From: tundrawinds at earthlink.net (Donna Dannen)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:49:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
Message-ID: <3822761.1215715758412.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


I am ready for another question.  Recently I was shooting in the Gunnison area, quickly running out of flash cards.  I do not own a laptop (MacBooks are expensive). I have a Lacie external hard drive and took that along, hoping to transfer photos to that from my friends' computer (a PC).  I don't know if the problem was being configured for my iMAC, or the fact that she does not have a way to view RAW images, but we could not make the transfer.  In fact, we could not even get my 8G thumbdrive to work on her computer.  That could have been my ignorance of PC's now that I've been on a MAC for awhile, however I recently had a friend print some photos for me on her Epson. We used the thumbdrive in her PC and the icon for the thumbdrive came right up.  

My question is portable storage for travel.  I know a little bit about the Firelight drives.  Also there are a ton of hand holdable external drives out there now.....but I'd like to be able to view the photos.  I've looked into the Epson P3000 and the P5000 but wonder if they are worth the price.  The P5000 is close in price to some laptops, though not the MacBooks. I have looked at the reconditioned section of the iStore, but I really don't see great deals there.  I've also looked at Craigs List, but have never been fast enough to net a sale there, and if I'm going to buy a laptop, I'd want a good one. . . .not a passe one.

What is the thought out there?  Is the Epson, say, P3000 worth the price?  What should I be thinking about?  I HOPE to be doing some writing and photography for the National Parks magazine but that will involve travel and the need for storage, but for now that is speculative at this point, so I don't have a hope of a paycheck to buy a laptop with.  

Donna

From tshphoto at msn.com  Thu Jul 10 15:50:26 2008
From: tshphoto at msn.com (Tim Hardy)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:50:26 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
References: <3822761.1215715758412.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV10A04A690262B7BE213D4AC6910@phx.gbl>

My feeling is that Compact Flash cards and other media are so inexpensive now, I would just buy more cards.
They're light, they're small and they don't cost much.  just stock up and then compile them all on your main computer when you get home.  I would rather purchase a handful of CF cards than spend 800 bucks or more on some portable hard drive storage system.
the other thing with media cards, no moving parts. they are less likely to fail compared to hard drive which has many spinning and moving parts.  I have had my CF cards go through the laundry (washer and dryer) and come out working just as if nothing happened. I can't imagine doing that to my laptop or something else "electronic".

Tim Hardy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net> 
  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h



  I am ready for another question.  Recently I was shooting in the Gunnison area, quickly running out of flash cards.  I do not own a laptop (MacBooks are expensive). I have a Lacie external hard drive and took that along, hoping to transfer photos to that from my friends' computer (a PC).  I don't know if the problem was being configured for my iMAC, or the fact that she does not have a way to view RAW images, but we could not make the transfer.  In fact, we could not even get my 8G thumbdrive to work on her computer.  That could have been my ignorance of PC's now that I've been on a MAC for awhile, however I recently had a friend print some photos for me on her Epson. We used the thumbdrive in her PC and the icon for the thumbdrive came right up.  

  My question is portable storage for travel.  I know a little bit about the Firelight drives.  Also there are a ton of hand holdable external drives out there now.....but I'd like to be able to view the photos.  I've looked into the Epson P3000 and the P5000 but wonder if they are worth the price.  The P5000 is close in price to some laptops, though not the MacBooks. I have looked at the reconditioned section of the iStore, but I really don't see great deals there.  I've also looked at Craigs List, but have never been fast enough to net a sale there, and if I'm going to buy a laptop, I'd want a good one. . . .not a passe one.

  What is the thought out there?  Is the Epson, say, P3000 worth the price?  What should I be thinking about?  I HOPE to be doing some writing and photography for the National Parks magazine but that will involve travel and the need for storage, but for now that is speculative at this point, so I don't have a hope of a paycheck to buy a laptop with.  

  Donna
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From tundrawinds at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 10 16:02:35 2008
From: tundrawinds at earthlink.net (Donna Dannen)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:02:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
Message-ID: <2236730.1215720155423.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Interesting to say that, because that is just what I ended up doing on that trip.  I decided I could buy alot of flash cards for the price of a laptop.  Also, on that same trip I was photographing a fireworks show, and lost a flash card out of my pocket.  I figured about 1000 people had trampled it, and it would be ruined after raining that night (if I could even find it).  Unbelieveably, I found the thing the next morning, and though wet, it was fine.  So what you say is true.  Perhaps you are right.  It may be it will be the way I go indefinitely......

-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com>
>Sent: Jul 10, 2008 3:50 PM
>To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
>Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>
>My feeling is that Compact Flash cards and other media are so inexpensive now, I would just buy more cards.
>They're light, they're small and they don't cost much.  just stock up and then compile them all on your main computer when you get home.  I would rather purchase a handful of CF cards than spend 800 bucks or more on some portable hard drive storage system.
>the other thing with media cards, no moving parts. they are less likely to fail compared to hard drive which has many spinning and moving parts.  I have had my CF cards go through the laundry (washer and dryer) and come out working just as if nothing happened. I can't imagine doing that to my laptop or something else "electronic".
>
>Tim Hardy
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net> 
>  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com> 
>  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:49 PM
>  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>
>
>
>  I am ready for another question.  Recently I was shooting in the Gunnison area, quickly running out of flash cards.  I do not own a laptop (MacBooks are expensive). I have a Lacie external hard drive and took that along, hoping to transfer photos to that from my friends' computer (a PC).  I don't know if the problem was being configured for my iMAC, or the fact that she does not have a way to view RAW images, but we could not make the transfer.  In fact, we could not even get my 8G thumbdrive to work on her computer.  That could have been my ignorance of PC's now that I've been on a MAC for awhile, however I recently had a friend print some photos for me on her Epson. We used the thumbdrive in her PC and the icon for the thumbdrive came right up.  
>
>  My question is portable storage for travel.  I know a little bit about the Firelight drives.  Also there are a ton of hand holdable external drives out there now.....but I'd like to be able to view the photos.  I've looked into the Epson P3000 and the P5000 but wonder if they are worth the price.  The P5000 is close in price to some laptops, though not the MacBooks. I have looked at the reconditioned section of the iStore, but I really don't see great deals there.  I've also looked at Craigs List, but have never been fast enough to net a sale there, and if I'm going to buy a laptop, I'd want a good one. . . .not a passe one.
>
>  What is the thought out there?  Is the Epson, say, P3000 worth the price?  What should I be thinking about?  I HOPE to be doing some writing and photography for the National Parks magazine but that will involve travel and the need for storage, but for now that is speculative at this point, so I don't have a hope of a paycheck to buy a laptop with.  
>
>  Donna
>  _______________________________________________
>  FRPS mailing list
>  FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com>
>  http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps<http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps>


From tshphoto at msn.com  Thu Jul 10 16:27:57 2008
From: tshphoto at msn.com (Tim Hardy)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:27:57 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
References: <2236730.1215720155423.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV13FCB3F393C9CD6AAD36EAC6910@phx.gbl>

I purchased a "digital wallet" that will hold quite a few cards. the one I got holds 6 cards.. after putting several 2gb cards in, that is 16 gbs of storage, not including the one in the camera.  now if I upgrade.. hmm.. they're up to what now 8gb.. zowie.. I remember paying over 300 dollars for my first 1 gb card. and now I can get a 2 gb for for less than 50 bucks.  4gb for 80 bucks and a 8gb for 150.00

TIm

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net> 
  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h


  Interesting to say that, because that is just what I ended up doing on that trip.  I decided I could buy alot of flash cards for the price of a laptop.  Also, on that same trip I was photographing a fireworks show, and lost a flash card out of my pocket.  I figured about 1000 people had trampled it, and it would be ruined after raining that night (if I could even find it).  Unbelieveably, I found the thing the next morning, and though wet, it was fine.  So what you say is true.  Perhaps you are right.  It may be it will be the way I go indefinitely......

  -----Original Message-----
  >From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com<mailto:tshphoto at msn.com>>
  >Sent: Jul 10, 2008 3:50 PM
  >To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>
  >Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
  >
  >My feeling is that Compact Flash cards and other media are so inexpensive now, I would just buy more cards.
  >They're light, they're small and they don't cost much.  just stock up and then compile them all on your main computer when you get home.  I would rather purchase a handful of CF cards than spend 800 bucks or more on some portable hard drive storage system.
  >the other thing with media cards, no moving parts. they are less likely to fail compared to hard drive which has many spinning and moving parts.  I have had my CF cards go through the laundry (washer and dryer) and come out working just as if nothing happened. I can't imagine doing that to my laptop or something else "electronic".
  >
  >Tim Hardy
  >
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>> 
  >  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>> 
  >  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:49 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
  >
  >
  >
  >  I am ready for another question.  Recently I was shooting in the Gunnison area, quickly running out of flash cards.  I do not own a laptop (MacBooks are expensive). I have a Lacie external hard drive and took that along, hoping to transfer photos to that from my friends' computer (a PC).  I don't know if the problem was being configured for my iMAC, or the fact that she does not have a way to view RAW images, but we could not make the transfer.  In fact, we could not even get my 8G thumbdrive to work on her computer.  That could have been my ignorance of PC's now that I've been on a MAC for awhile, however I recently had a friend print some photos for me on her Epson. We used the thumbdrive in her PC and the icon for the thumbdrive came right up.  
  >
  >  My question is portable storage for travel.  I know a little bit about the Firelight drives.  Also there are a ton of hand holdable external drives out there now.....but I'd like to be able to view the photos.  I've looked into the Epson P3000 and the P5000 but wonder if they are worth the price.  The P5000 is close in price to some laptops, though not the MacBooks. I have looked at the reconditioned section of the iStore, but I really don't see great deals there.  I've also looked at Craigs List, but have never been fast enough to net a sale there, and if I'm going to buy a laptop, I'd want a good one. . . .not a passe one.
  >
  >  What is the thought out there?  Is the Epson, say, P3000 worth the price?  What should I be thinking about?  I HOPE to be doing some writing and photography for the National Parks magazine but that will involve travel and the need for storage, but for now that is speculative at this point, so I don't have a hope of a paycheck to buy a laptop with.  
  >
  >  Donna
  >  _______________________________________________
  >  FRPS mailing list
  >  FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosocietycom>>
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From tundrawinds at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 10 16:50:05 2008
From: tundrawinds at earthlink.net (Donna Dannen)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:50:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
Message-ID: <28878636.1215723005431.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Well, I was shooting in RAW at about 4-8G a day for 4 days.  I've 16G cards, btw....

-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com>
>Sent: Jul 10, 2008 4:27 PM
>To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
>Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>
>I purchased a "digital wallet" that will hold quite a few cards. the one I got holds 6 cards.. after putting several 2gb cards in, that is 16 gbs of storage, not including the one in the camera.  now if I upgrade.. hmm.. they're up to what now 8gb.. zowie.. I remember paying over 300 dollars for my first 1 gb card. and now I can get a 2 gb for for less than 50 bucks.  4gb for 80 bucks and a 8gb for 150.00
>
>TIm
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net> 
>  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com> 
>  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:02 PM
>  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>
>
>  Interesting to say that, because that is just what I ended up doing on that trip.  I decided I could buy alot of flash cards for the price of a laptop.  Also, on that same trip I was photographing a fireworks show, and lost a flash card out of my pocket.  I figured about 1000 people had trampled it, and it would be ruined after raining that night (if I could even find it).  Unbelieveably, I found the thing the next morning, and though wet, it was fine.  So what you say is true.  Perhaps you are right.  It may be it will be the way I go indefinitely......
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  >From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com<mailto:tshphoto at msn.com>>
>  >Sent: Jul 10, 2008 3:50 PM
>  >To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>
>  >Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>  >
>  >My feeling is that Compact Flash cards and other media are so inexpensive now, I would just buy more cards.
>  >They're light, they're small and they don't cost much.  just stock up and then compile them all on your main computer when you get home.  I would rather purchase a handful of CF cards than spend 800 bucks or more on some portable hard drive storage system.
>  >the other thing with media cards, no moving parts. they are less likely to fail compared to hard drive which has many spinning and moving parts.  I have had my CF cards go through the laundry (washer and dryer) and come out working just as if nothing happened. I can't imagine doing that to my laptop or something else "electronic".
>  >
>  >Tim Hardy
>  >
>  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  >  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>> 
>  >  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>> 
>  >  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:49 PM
>  >  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  I am ready for another question.  Recently I was shooting in the Gunnison area, quickly running out of flash cards.  I do not own a laptop (MacBooks are expensive). I have a Lacie external hard drive and took that along, hoping to transfer photos to that from my friends' computer (a PC).  I don't know if the problem was being configured for my iMAC, or the fact that she does not have a way to view RAW images, but we could not make the transfer.  In fact, we could not even get my 8G thumbdrive to work on her computer.  That could have been my ignorance of PC's now that I've been on a MAC for awhile, however I recently had a friend print some photos for me on her Epson. We used the thumbdrive in her PC and the icon for the thumbdrive came right up.  
>  >
>  >  My question is portable storage for travel.  I know a little bit about the Firelight drives.  Also there are a ton of hand holdable external drives out there now.....but I'd like to be able to view the photos.  I've looked into the Epson P3000 and the P5000 but wonder if they are worth the price.  The P5000 is close in price to some laptops, though not the MacBooks. I have looked at the reconditioned section of the iStore, but I really don't see great deals there.  I've also looked at Craigs List, but have never been fast enough to net a sale there, and if I'm going to buy a laptop, I'd want a good one. . . .not a passe one.
>  >
>  >  What is the thought out there?  Is the Epson, say, P3000 worth the price?  What should I be thinking about?  I HOPE to be doing some writing and photography for the National Parks magazine but that will involve travel and the need for storage, but for now that is speculative at this point, so I don't have a hope of a paycheck to buy a laptop with.  
>  >
>  >  Donna
>  >  _______________________________________________
>  >  FRPS mailing list
>  >  FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosocietycom>>
>  >  http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps<http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps<http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps%3Chttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps>>
>
>  _______________________________________________
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From tundrawinds at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 10 16:53:24 2008
From: tundrawinds at earthlink.net (Donna Dannen)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:53:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
Message-ID: <2791387.1215723204690.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Oops.  Meant to say I've seen 16G cards.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Donna Dannen <tundrawinds at earthlink.net>
>Sent: Jul 10, 2008 4:50 PM
>To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
>Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>
>Well, I was shooting in RAW at about 4-8G a day for 4 days.  I've 16G cards, btw....
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com>
>>Sent: Jul 10, 2008 4:27 PM
>>To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
>>Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>>
>>I purchased a "digital wallet" that will hold quite a few cards. the one I got holds 6 cards.. after putting several 2gb cards in, that is 16 gbs of storage, not including the one in the camera.  now if I upgrade.. hmm.. they're up to what now 8gb.. zowie.. I remember paying over 300 dollars for my first 1 gb card. and now I can get a 2 gb for for less than 50 bucks.  4gb for 80 bucks and a 8gb for 150.00
>>
>>TIm
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net> 
>>  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com> 
>>  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:02 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>>
>>
>>  Interesting to say that, because that is just what I ended up doing on that trip.  I decided I could buy alot of flash cards for the price of a laptop.  Also, on that same trip I was photographing a fireworks show, and lost a flash card out of my pocket.  I figured about 1000 people had trampled it, and it would be ruined after raining that night (if I could even find it).  Unbelieveably, I found the thing the next morning, and though wet, it was fine.  So what you say is true.  Perhaps you are right.  It may be it will be the way I go indefinitely......
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  >From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com<mailto:tshphoto at msn.com>>
>>  >Sent: Jul 10, 2008 3:50 PM
>>  >To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>
>>  >Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>>  >
>>  >My feeling is that Compact Flash cards and other media are so inexpensive now, I would just buy more cards.
>>  >They're light, they're small and they don't cost much.  just stock up and then compile them all on your main computer when you get home.  I would rather purchase a handful of CF cards than spend 800 bucks or more on some portable hard drive storage system.
>>  >the other thing with media cards, no moving parts. they are less likely to fail compared to hard drive which has many spinning and moving parts.  I have had my CF cards go through the laundry (washer and dryer) and come out working just as if nothing happened. I can't imagine doing that to my laptop or something else "electronic".
>>  >
>>  >Tim Hardy
>>  >
>>  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  >  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>> 
>>  >  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>> 
>>  >  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:49 PM
>>  >  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  I am ready for another question.  Recently I was shooting in the Gunnison area, quickly running out of flash cards.  I do not own a laptop (MacBooks are expensive). I have a Lacie external hard drive and took that along, hoping to transfer photos to that from my friends' computer (a PC).  I don't know if the problem was being configured for my iMAC, or the fact that she does not have a way to view RAW images, but we could not make the transfer.  In fact, we could not even get my 8G thumbdrive to work on her computer.  That could have been my ignorance of PC's now that I've been on a MAC for awhile, however I recently had a friend print some photos for me on her Epson. We used the thumbdrive in her PC and the icon for the thumbdrive came right up.  
>>  >
>>  >  My question is portable storage for travel.  I know a little bit about the Firelight drives.  Also there are a ton of hand holdable external drives out there now.....but I'd like to be able to view the photos.  I've looked into the Epson P3000 and the P5000 but wonder if they are worth the price.  The P5000 is close in price to some laptops, though not the MacBooks. I have looked at the reconditioned section of the iStore, but I really don't see great deals there.  I've also looked at Craigs List, but have never been fast enough to net a sale there, and if I'm going to buy a laptop, I'd want a good one. . . .not a passe one.
>>  >
>>  >  What is the thought out there?  Is the Epson, say, P3000 worth the price?  What should I be thinking about?  I HOPE to be doing some writing and photography for the National Parks magazine but that will involve travel and the need for storage, but for now that is speculative at this point, so I don't have a hope of a paycheck to buy a laptop with.  
>>  >
>>  >  Donna
>>  >  _______________________________________________
>>  >  FRPS mailing list
>>  >  FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosocietycom>>
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From tshphoto at msn.com  Thu Jul 10 17:10:53 2008
From: tshphoto at msn.com (Tim Hardy)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:10:53 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
References: <2791387.1215723204690.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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yep. I thought they were up that large already.. 185 bucks a B&H

TIm

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net> 
  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h


  Oops.  Meant to say I've seen 16G cards.

  -----Original Message-----
  >From: Donna Dannen <tundrawinds at earthlink.net<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>>
  >Sent: Jul 10, 2008 4:50 PM
  >To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>
  >Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
  >
  >Well, I was shooting in RAW at about 4-8G a day for 4 days.  I've 16G cards, btw....
  >
  >-----Original Message-----
  >>From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com<mailto:tshphoto at msn.com>>
  >>Sent: Jul 10, 2008 4:27 PM
  >>To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>
  >>Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
  >>
  >>I purchased a "digital wallet" that will hold quite a few cards. the one I got holds 6 cards.. after putting several 2gb cards in, that is 16 gbs of storage, not including the one in the camera.  now if I upgrade.. hmm.. they're up to what now 8gb.. zowie.. I remember paying over 300 dollars for my first 1 gb card. and now I can get a 2 gb for for less than 50 bucks.  4gb for 80 bucks and a 8gb for 150.00
  >>
  >>TIm
  >>
  >>  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >>  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>> 
  >>  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>> 
  >>  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:02 PM
  >>  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
  >>
  >>
  >>  Interesting to say that, because that is just what I ended up doing on that trip.  I decided I could buy alot of flash cards for the price of a laptop.  Also, on that same trip I was photographing a fireworks show, and lost a flash card out of my pocket.  I figured about 1000 people had trampled it, and it would be ruined after raining that night (if I could even find it).  Unbelieveably, I found the thing the next morning, and though wet, it was fine.  So what you say is true.  Perhaps you are right.  It may be it will be the way I go indefinitely......
  >>
  >>  -----Original Message-----
  >>  >From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com<mailto:tshphoto at msn.com<mailto:tshphoto at msn.com%3Cmailto:tshphoto at msn.com>>>
  >>  >Sent: Jul 10, 2008 3:50 PM
  >>  >To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>>
  >>  >Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
  >>  >
  >>  >My feeling is that Compact Flash cards and other media are so inexpensive now, I would just buy more cards.
  >>  >They're light, they're small and they don't cost much.  just stock up and then compile them all on your main computer when you get home.  I would rather purchase a handful of CF cards than spend 800 bucks or more on some portable hard drive storage system.
  >>  >the other thing with media cards, no moving parts. they are less likely to fail compared to hard drive which has many spinning and moving parts.  I have had my CF cards go through the laundry (washer and dryer) and come out working just as if nothing happened. I can't imagine doing that to my laptop or something else "electronic".
  >>  >
  >>  >Tim Hardy
  >>  >
  >>  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >>  >  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net%3Cmailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>>> 
  >>  >  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>> 
  >>  >  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:49 PM
  >>  >  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
  >>  >
  >>  >
  >>  >
  >>  >  I am ready for another question.  Recently I was shooting in the Gunnison area, quickly running out of flash cards.  I do not own a laptop (MacBooks are expensive). I have a Lacie external hard drive and took that along, hoping to transfer photos to that from my friends' computer (a PC).  I don't know if the problem was being configured for my iMAC, or the fact that she does not have a way to view RAW images, but we could not make the transfer.  In fact, we could not even get my 8G thumbdrive to work on her computer.  That could have been my ignorance of PC's now that I've been on a MAC for awhile, however I recently had a friend print some photos for me on her Epson. We used the thumbdrive in her PC and the icon for the thumbdrive came right up.  
  >>  >
  >>  >  My question is portable storage for travel.  I know a little bit about the Firelight drives.  Also there are a ton of hand holdable external drives out there now.....but I'd like to be able to view the photos.  I've looked into the Epson P3000 and the P5000 but wonder if they are worth the price.  The P5000 is close in price to some laptops, though not the MacBooks. I have looked at the reconditioned section of the iStore, but I really don't see great deals there.  I've also looked at Craigs List, but have never been fast enough to net a sale there, and if I'm going to buy a laptop, I'd want a good one. . . .not a passe one.
  >>  >
  >>  >  What is the thought out there?  Is the Epson, say, P3000 worth the price?  What should I be thinking about?  I HOPE to be doing some writing and photography for the National Parks magazine but that will involve travel and the need for storage, but for now that is speculative at this point, so I don't have a hope of a paycheck to buy a laptop with.  
  >>  >
  >>  >  Donna
  >>  >  _______________________________________________
  >>  >  FRPS mailing list
  >>  >  FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosocietycom<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosocietycom>>>
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From sparker at parkerpress.com  Thu Jul 10 17:34:10 2008
From: sparker at parkerpress.com (Steve Parker)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:34:10 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
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Gregg taught me a valuable lesson (of course, after I bought an 8Gb  
card).

It's smarter to shoot on 4 4Gb cards than 1 16Gb card. That way, if  
the card dies, you'd only lose 25% of your images, not 100%. In  
compressed RAW, my D200 uses about 9Mb/image, for about 250 on an 4Gb  
card. That's enough for me. Oh yeah, it's almost always cheaper too!!!

Steve
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On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:

> yep. I thought they were up that large already.. 185 bucks a B&H
>
> TIm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Donna Dannen
> To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 +  
> $5 s&h
>
> Oops.  Meant to say I've seen 16G cards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Donna Dannen <tundrawinds at earthlink.net>
> >Sent: Jul 10, 2008 4:50 PM
> >To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com 
> >
> >Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 +  
> $5 s&h
> >
> >Well, I was shooting in RAW at about 4-8G a day for 4 days.  I've  
> 16G cards, btw....
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com>
> >>Sent: Jul 10, 2008 4:27 PM
> >>To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com 
> >
> >>Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27  
> + $5 s&h
> >>
> >>I purchased a "digital wallet" that will hold quite a few cards.  
> the one I got holds 6 cards.. after putting several 2gb cards in,  
> that is 16 gbs of storage, not including the one in the camera.  now  
> if I upgrade.. hmm.. they're up to what now 8gb.. zowie.. I remember  
> paying over 300 dollars for my first 1 gb card. and now I can get a  
> 2 gb for for less than 50 bucks.  4gb for 80 bucks and a 8gb for  
> 150.00
> >>
> >>TIm
> >>
> >>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>
> >>  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com 
> >
> >>  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:02 PM
> >>  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for  
> $27 + $5 s&h
> >>
> >>
> >>  Interesting to say that, because that is just what I ended up  
> doing on that trip.  I decided I could buy alot of flash cards for  
> the price of a laptop.  Also, on that same trip I was photographing  
> a fireworks show, and lost a flash card out of my pocket.  I figured  
> about 1000 people had trampled it, and it would be ruined after  
> raining that night (if I could even find it).  Unbelieveably, I  
> found the thing the next morning, and though wet, it was fine.  So  
> what you say is true.  Perhaps you are right.  It may be it will be  
> the way I go indefinitely......
> >>
> >>  -----Original Message-----
> >>  >From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com<mailto:tshphoto at msn.com>>
> >>  >Sent: Jul 10, 2008 3:50 PM
> >>  >To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com 
> <mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>
> >>  >Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for  
> $27 + $5 s&h
> >>  >
> >>  >My feeling is that Compact Flash cards and other media are so  
> inexpensive now, I would just buy more cards.
> >>  >They're light, they're small and they don't cost much.  just  
> stock up and then compile them all on your main computer when you  
> get home.  I would rather purchase a handful of CF cards than spend  
> 800 bucks or more on some portable hard drive storage system.
> >>  >the other thing with media cards, no moving parts. they are  
> less likely to fail compared to hard drive which has many spinning  
> and moving parts.  I have had my CF cards go through the laundry  
> (washer and dryer) and come out working just as if nothing happened.  
> I can't imagine doing that to my laptop or something else  
> "electronic".
> >>  >
> >>  >Tim Hardy
> >>  >
> >>  >  ----- Original Message -----
> >>  >  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net 
> >>
> >>  >  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com 
> <mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>
> >>  >  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:49 PM
> >>  >  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for  
> $27 + $5 s&h
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >  I am ready for another question.  Recently I was shooting in  
> the Gunnison area, quickly running out of flash cards.  I do not own  
> a laptop (MacBooks are expensive). I have a Lacie external hard  
> drive and took that along, hoping to transfer photos to that from my  
> friends' computer (a PC).  I don't know if the problem was being  
> configured for my iMAC, or the fact that she does not have a way to  
> view RAW images, but we could not make the transfer.  In fact, we  
> could not even get my 8G thumbdrive to work on her computer.  That  
> could have been my ignorance of PC's now that I've been on a MAC for  
> awhile, however I recently had a friend print some photos for me on  
> her Epson. We used the thumbdrive in her PC and the icon for the  
> thumbdrive came right up.
> >>  >
> >>  >  My question is portable storage for travel.  I know a little  
> bit about the Firelight drives.  Also there are a ton of hand  
> holdable external drives out there now.....but I'd like to be able  
> to view the photos.  I've looked into the Epson P3000 and the P5000  
> but wonder if they are worth the price.  The P5000 is close in price  
> to some laptops, though not the MacBooks. I have looked at the  
> reconditioned section of the iStore, but I really don't see great  
> deals there.  I've also looked at Craigs List, but have never been  
> fast enough to net a sale there, and if I'm going to buy a laptop,  
> I'd want a good one. . . .not a passe one.
> >>  >
> >>  >  What is the thought out there?  Is the Epson, say, P3000  
> worth the price?  What should I be thinking about?  I HOPE to be  
> doing some writing and photography for the National Parks magazine  
> but that will involve travel and the need for storage, but for now  
> that is speculative at this point, so I don't have a hope of a  
> paycheck to buy a laptop with.
> >>  >
> >>  >  Donna
> >>  >  _______________________________________________
> >>  >  FRPS mailing list
> >>  > FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com 
> <mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosocietycom 
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From tony at crystalskishop.com  Thu Jul 10 17:45:57 2008
From: tony at crystalskishop.com (Tony Martinez)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:45:57 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] SPAM-LOW: Re: Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for
	$27 + $5 s&h
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822110046

 

 

This is what I have been using when I'm on big shooting trips. 

Since my wife uses SD cards and I have CF, I can back both up easily.

 

 

I had a extra hard drive available from a laptop upgrade, so the cost was
only for the case. It is rechargeable, and so far it has been great. I keep
it in a small Pelican case to keep water and dirt away. I admit it is not as
durable as a flash drive, but I like the size and storage.

Gregg had bought one too, but his screen has stopped working.

 

Tony

 

 

From: frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com
[mailto:frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com] On Behalf Of Steve Parker
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:34 PM
To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27
+ $5 s&h

 

Gregg taught me a valuable lesson (of course, after I bought an 8Gb card). 

 

It's smarter to shoot on 4 4Gb cards than 1 16Gb card. That way, if the card
dies, you'd only lose 25% of your images, not 100%. In compressed RAW, my
D200 uses about 9Mb/image, for about 250 on an 4Gb card. That's enough for
me. Oh yeah, it's almost always cheaper too!!!

 

Steve

-- 

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sparker at parkerpress.com

Home of The ParkerPress : http://www.parkerpress.com/

 

On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:





yep. I thought they were up that large already.. 185 bucks a B&H

 

TIm

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Donna <mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>  Dannen

To: Front Range Photo Society <mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
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Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:53 PM

Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h

 

Oops.  Meant to say I've seen 16G cards.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Donna Dannen <tundrawinds at earthlink.net>
>Sent: Jul 10, 2008 4:50 PM
>To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
<frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
>Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>
>Well, I was shooting in RAW at about 4-8G a day for 4 days.  I've 16G
cards, btw....
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com>
>>Sent: Jul 10, 2008 4:27 PM
>>To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
<frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
>>Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
>>
>>I purchased a "digital wallet" that will hold quite a few cards. the one I
got holds 6 cards.. after putting several 2gb cards in, that is 16 gbs of
storage, not including the one in the camera.  now if I upgrade.. hmm..
they're up to what now 8gb.. zowie.. I remember paying over 300 dollars for
my first 1 gb card. and now I can get a 2 gb for for less than 50 bucks.
4gb for 80 bucks and a 8gb for 150.00
>>
>>TIm
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net> 
>>  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing
List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com> 
>>  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:02 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5
s&h
>>
>>
>>  Interesting to say that, because that is just what I ended up doing on
that trip.  I decided I could buy alot of flash cards for the price of a
laptop.  Also, on that same trip I was photographing a fireworks show, and
lost a flash card out of my pocket.  I figured about 1000 people had
trampled it, and it would be ruined after raining that night (if I could
even find it).  Unbelieveably, I found the thing the next morning, and
though wet, it was fine.  So what you say is true.  Perhaps you are right.
It may be it will be the way I go indefinitely......
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  >From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com
<mailto:tshphoto at msn.com%3cmailto:tshphoto at msn.com>
<mailto:tshphoto at msn.com>>
>>  >Sent: Jul 10, 2008 3:50 PM
>>  >To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
<frps at frontrangephotosociety.com
<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com%3cmailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety
.com> <mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>
>>  >Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5
s&h
>>  >
>>  >My feeling is that Compact Flash cards and other media are so
inexpensive now, I would just buy more cards.
>>  >They're light, they're small and they don't cost much.  just stock up
and then compile them all on your main computer when you get home.  I would
rather purchase a handful of CF cards than spend 800 bucks or more on some
portable hard drive storage system.
>>  >the other thing with media cards, no moving parts. they are less likely
to fail compared to hard drive which has many spinning and moving parts.  I
have had my CF cards go through the laundry (washer and dryer) and come out
working just as if nothing happened. I can't imagine doing that to my laptop
or something else "electronic".
>>  >
>>  >Tim Hardy
>>  >
>>  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  >  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net
<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net%3cmailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>
<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>> 
>>  >  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing
List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com
<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com%3cmailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety
.com> <mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>> 
>>  >  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:49 PM
>>  >  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 +
$5 s&h
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  I am ready for another question.  Recently I was shooting in the
Gunnison area, quickly running out of flash cards.  I do not own a laptop
(MacBooks are expensive). I have a Lacie external hard drive and took that
along, hoping to transfer photos to that from my friends' computer (a PC).
I don't know if the problem was being configured for my iMAC, or the fact
that she does not have a way to view RAW images, but we could not make the
transfer.  In fact, we could not even get my 8G thumbdrive to work on her
computer.  That could have been my ignorance of PC's now that I've been on a
MAC for awhile, however I recently had a friend print some photos for me on
her Epson. We used the thumbdrive in her PC and the icon for the thumbdrive
came right up.  
>>  >
>>  >  My question is portable storage for travel.  I know a little bit
about the Firelight drives.  Also there are a ton of hand holdable external
drives out there now.....but I'd like to be able to view the photos.  I've
looked into the Epson P3000 and the P5000 but wonder if they are worth the
price.  The P5000 is close in price to some laptops, though not the
MacBooks. I have looked at the reconditioned section of the iStore, but I
really don't see great deals there.  I've also looked at Craigs List, but
have never been fast enough to net a sale there, and if I'm going to buy a
laptop, I'd want a good one. . . .not a passe one.
>>  >
>>  >  What is the thought out there?  Is the Epson, say, P3000 worth the
price?  What should I be thinking about?  I HOPE to be doing some writing
and photography for the National Parks magazine but that will involve travel
and the need for storage, but for now that is speculative at this point, so
I don't have a hope of a paycheck to buy a laptop with.  
>>  >
>>  >  Donna
>>  >  _______________________________________________
>>  >  FRPS mailing list
>>  > FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com
<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety
.com%3cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotos
ocietycom>
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om%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosocietycom>>
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From googlecal at lowrimore.com  Thu Jul 10 18:13:44 2008
From: googlecal at lowrimore.com (Gregg)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:13:44 -0700
Subject: [FRPS] Nik Software Announces Silver Efex Pro
Message-ID: <0016e64653f2106cd00451b2bdae@google.com>

Mark Hotchkiss? Here you go!

Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader: Nik Software Announces Silver
Efex Pro via Aperture Plugged In by Micah on 7/10/08
Nik Software has announced an exciting new plugin for Aperture and
Photoshop called Silver Efex Pro. Silver Efex Pro is, according to Nik,
?the most advanced, complete, and straightforward black-and-white
solution. Suggested retail price for the package is $199. For more
information be sure to check out the Nik website at Nik Software or
check out their press release by clicking here.

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From tshphoto at msn.com  Thu Jul 10 18:27:02 2008
From: tshphoto at msn.com (Tim Hardy)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:27:02 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
References: <2791387.1215723204690.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net><BAY110-DAV5B9429171CEA8ECE6AFF4C6910@phx.gbl>
	<47478BDE-AEA9-4570-828D-AE57BD8084FD@parkerpress.com>
Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV8A17A522A522807E9B900C6910@phx.gbl>

YEP!  isn't that an old farmers advice too.. don't keep all your eggs in one basket?
or in today's age... don't keep all your images in one drive - 

Tim Hardy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Parker<mailto:sparker at parkerpress.com> 
  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h


  Gregg taught me a valuable lesson (of course, after I bought an 8Gb card).  


  It's smarter to shoot on 4 4Gb cards than 1 16Gb card. That way, if the card dies, you'd only lose 25% of your images, not 100%. In compressed RAW, my D200 uses about 9Mb/image, for about 250 on an 4Gb card. That's enough for me. Oh yeah, it's almost always cheaper too!!! 


  Steve

  -- 
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  sparker at parkerpress.com<mailto:sparker at parkerpress.com>
  Home of The ParkerPress : http://www.parkerpress.com/<http://www.parkerpress.com/>


  On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:


    yep. I thought they were up that large already.. 185 bucks a B&H

    TIm

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>
      To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:53 PM
      Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h


      Oops.  Meant to say I've seen 16G cards.

      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Donna Dannen <tundrawinds at earthlink.net<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>>
      >Sent: Jul 10, 2008 4:50 PM
      >To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>
      >Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
      >
      >Well, I was shooting in RAW at about 4-8G a day for 4 days.  I've 16G cards, btw....
      >
      >-----Original Message-----
      >>From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com<mailto:tshphoto at msn.com>>
      >>Sent: Jul 10, 2008 4:27 PM
      >>To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>
      >>Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
      >>
      >>I purchased a "digital wallet" that will hold quite a few cards. the one I got holds 6 cards.. after putting several 2gb cards in, that is 16 gbs of storage, not including the one in the camera.  now if I upgrade.. hmm.. they're up to what now 8gb.. zowie.. I remember paying over 300 dollars for my first 1 gb card. and now I can get a 2 gb for for less than 50 bucks.  4gb for 80 bucks and a 8gb for 150.00
      >>
      >>TIm
      >>
      >>  ----- Original Message ----- 
      >>  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>> 
      >>  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>> 
      >>  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:02 PM
      >>  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
      >>
      >>
      >>  Interesting to say that, because that is just what I ended up doing on that trip.  I decided I could buy alot of flash cards for the price of a laptop.  Also, on that same trip I was photographing a fireworks show, and lost a flash card out of my pocket.  I figured about 1000 people had trampled it, and it would be ruined after raining that night (if I could even find it).  Unbelieveably, I found the thing the next morning, and though wet, it was fine.  So what you say is true.  Perhaps you are right.  It may be it will be the way I go indefinitely......
      >>
      >>  -----Original Message-----
      >>  >From: Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com<mailto:tshphoto at msn.com<mailto:tshphoto at msn.com%3Cmailto:tshphoto at msn.com>>>
      >>  >Sent: Jul 10, 2008 3:50 PM
      >>  >To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>>
      >>  >Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
      >>  >
      >>  >My feeling is that Compact Flash cards and other media are so inexpensive now, I would just buy more cards.
      >>  >They're light, they're small and they don't cost much.  just stock up and then compile them all on your main computer when you get home.  I would rather purchase a handful of CF cards than spend 800 bucks or more on some portable hard drive storage system.
      >>  >the other thing with media cards, no moving parts. they are less likely to fail compared to hard drive which has many spinning and moving parts.  I have had my CF cards go through the laundry (washer and dryer) and come out working just as if nothing happened. I can't imagine doing that to my laptop or something else "electronic".
      >>  >
      >>  >Tim Hardy
      >>  >
      >>  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
      >>  >  From: Donna Dannen<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net<mailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net%3Cmailto:tundrawinds at earthlink.net>>> 
      >>  >  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>>> 
      >>  >  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:49 PM
      >>  >  Subject: Re: [FRPS] Canon 200DG Digital Camera Gadget Bag for $27 + $5 s&h
      >>  >
      >>  >
      >>  >
      >>  >  I am ready for another question.  Recently I was shooting in the Gunnison area, quickly running out of flash cards.  I do not own a laptop (MacBooks are expensive). I have a Lacie external hard drive and took that along, hoping to transfer photos to that from my friends' computer (a PC).  I don't know if the problem was being configured for my iMAC, or the fact that she does not have a way to view RAW images, but we could not make the transfer.  In fact, we could not even get my 8G thumbdrive to work on her computer.  That could have been my ignorance of PC's now that I've been on a MAC for awhile, however I recently had a friend print some photos for me on her Epson. We used the thumbdrive in her PC and the icon for the thumbdrive came right up.  
      >>  >
      >>  >  My question is portable storage for travel.  I know a little bit about the Firelight drives.  Also there are a ton of hand holdable external drives out there now.....but I'd like to be able to view the photos.  I've looked into the Epson P3000 and the P5000 but wonder if they are worth the price.  The P5000 is close in price to some laptops, though not the MacBooks. I have looked at the reconditioned section of the iStore, but I really don't see great deals there.  I've also looked at Craigs List, but have never been fast enough to net a sale there, and if I'm going to buy a laptop, I'd want a good one. . . not a passe one.
      >>  >
      >>  >  What is the thought out there?  Is the Epson, say, P3000 worth the price?  What should I be thinking about?  I HOPE to be doing some writing and photography for the National Parks magazine but that will involve travel and the need for storage, but for now that is speculative at this point, so I don't have a hope of a paycheck to buy a laptop with.  
      >>  >
      >>  >  Donna
      >>  >  _______________________________________________
      >>  >  FRPS mailing list
      >>  > FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosocietycom<mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com%3Cmailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosocietycom>>>
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From tshphoto at msn.com  Thu Jul 10 18:31:10 2008
From: tshphoto at msn.com (Tim Hardy)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:31:10 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Question
References: <0016e64653f2106cd00451b2bdae@google.com>
Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV305E4541A9BB9B7C76B26C6910@phx.gbl>

Hello everyone,

I have this question:

when choosing a photo lab, what do you look for?


Quality?     Price?    Service?    convenience?  personality?  if all, what is most important?


also, this group seems sorta split between Canon and Nikon..  so, how does this group fair when
there is a preference for photo papers,  Fuji VS Kodak for silver halide
and for those inkjet printers out there..  Ilford?  Epson?  Kodak?  Hanemuele? Lyson?  others?


Thanks

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From wbsullivan at mesanetworks.net  Thu Jul 10 20:32:41 2008
From: wbsullivan at mesanetworks.net (wbsullivan)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:32:41 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards
In-Reply-To: <B66285A6-D7D1-49C9-B14D-A73E6FF16FCC@lowrimore.com>
References: <dc2svl08yd1igcw6fzubkxmfujupb3ak.1215624806@bronto.com>	<820743F8-F387-4809-A389-BAF036A6BFC6@lowrimore.com>	<006e01c8e23d$57e35da0$07aa18e0$@net>
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If that's the 15th I should be there.

wbs

 

From: frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com
[mailto:frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com] On Behalf Of Gregg
Lowrimore
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:17 AM
To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FRPS] Fwd: 25% Off Business Cards

 

Cool! I want to see your pictures! At the next FRPS maybe?

 

On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:30 PM, wbsullivan wrote:





Just returned from France - great food, wine, pictures!

 

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From j88per at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 06:55:10 2008
From: j88per at gmail.com (Andrew Carlson)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:55:10 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Question
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-DAV305E4541A9BB9B7C76B26C6910@phx.gbl>
References: <0016e64653f2106cd00451b2bdae@google.com>
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I'll try to answer but as far as processing is concerned I consider myself
un-educated.  Though I think I'm only 1 of 4 or 5 people on this  list that
actually use film.  EEEK!

For black and white film, I'm really just tryin about 5 rolls of each
brand/type to get a feel for it, how it behaves or reacts to the weird
things I do to it.  I don't think I'm really consistent as far as timing my
developing either.  Usually I know what I did as far as exposure and try to
time it appropriately.  But again, the rolls I've developed have been mostly
practice.

For B/W I'm doing home processing and doing fine,  I have yet to set up the
home darkroom and have been busy lately to try and get around to see what
others have done regarding darkroom setup.  I'm starting to get many of the
things I need like paper, chemicals, etc but is a guessing game for me.

For color processing I decided I would try the local shops and find one that
worked well with me as opposed to how cost effective or skilled they were.
If we both seem to talk the same language and they understand me and I
understand them, that's important.  I took a roll of color film to Mike's
Camera on Colorado Blvd and had it processed and I did not like either the
results or the way they were with me.  I'm not sure if the lab made a
mistake and tried to correct or if my Fuji 160C is just behaving normal, all
the shots have an awkward hue to them.  The next roll went to photo Craft in
Boulder and it was a Kodak 160VC and while it is a cool toned film IMO, they
seemed to do well.  Better than Mike's.  Plus they seem to be able to handle
4x5 which interests me.

I don't know enough about various photo papers yet, ask me in a year - and
we'll see how many print's I've made!  As far as inkjet, I gave up trying
and I was getting decent results but what bothers me about inkjet is that a
picture that I print at home looks great under incandescent or sunlight,
looks crappy under florescent lighting or other types of lighting.  I
switched to Dye Sub printers and get excellent, consistent results w/o that
weird green color hidden under black.  Cost may be higher, but I print less
and on those printers really only stuff people are buying, 8x10 or smaller
so I defer any added cost to the client.  I'm eager to try a b/w print in a
wet darkroom but I'm also nervous about it too.  I doubt it'll compare, even
one with mistakes I'm likely to cause.
A



On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Tim Hardy <tshphoto at msn.com> wrote:

>  Hello everyone,
>
> I have this question:
>
> when choosing a photo lab, what do you look for?
>
>
> Quality?     Price?    Service?    convenience?  personality?  if all,
> what is most important?
>
>
> also, this group seems sorta split between Canon and Nikon..  so, how does
> this group fair when
> there is a preference for photo papers,  Fuji VS Kodak for silver halide
> and for those inkjet printers out there..  Ilford?  Epson?  Kodak?
> Hanemuele? Lyson?  others?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
>
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From j88per at gmail.com  Sat Jul 12 18:09:38 2008
From: j88per at gmail.com (Andrew Carlson)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:09:38 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] shooting anyone?
Message-ID: <e06096240807121509p1df63cc1h846fe246cc738041@mail.gmail.com>

I guess I should say anyone shooting?  I picked up a new lens, 85mm f/1.2L
canon lens and would love to get out and shoot some people/street stuff -
anyone going out and doing any planned shooting?  Anyone taking any pictures
at all?  Hello?
(Why do I hear the sound of crickets chirping?) :)

Andrew
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From taylor at intuitive.com  Sat Jul 12 23:54:05 2008
From: taylor at intuitive.com (Dave Taylor)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:54:05 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] shooting anyone?
In-Reply-To: <e06096240807121509p1df63cc1h846fe246cc738041@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C49ED87D.6A7EE%taylor@intuitive.com>

> I guess I should say anyone shooting?  I picked up a new lens, 85mm f/1.2L
> canon lens and would love to get out and shoot some people/street stuff -
> anyone going out and doing any planned shooting?  Anyone taking any pictures
> at all?  Hello?  

Too busy parenting this summer to take too many pics, but it looks like I?m
taking my gang to LA later in the month and that?ll be a good chance to drag
along some of my Nikon gear. Hopefully. :-)

Dave


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From j88per at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 02:17:06 2008
From: j88per at gmail.com (Andrew Carlson)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:17:06 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] shooting anyone?
In-Reply-To: <C49ED87D.6A7EE%taylor@intuitive.com>
References: <e06096240807121509p1df63cc1h846fe246cc738041@mail.gmail.com>
	<C49ED87D.6A7EE%taylor@intuitive.com>
Message-ID: <e06096240807122317l546ba76au6787d9042ca7e833@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think I'll join you - did go to Vegas this week but for reasons not
related to photography so no camera.  I did get to use a point & bitch and
that's about all I did was complain because I couldn't figure out how to get
it into manual mode and set aperture/shutter speed.  Vegas was fun if hot
and I forgot how bad air travel was, its gotten worse.  Which was why I
chose not to drag the photo gear along for fear of it being confiscated.
The TSA is now confiscating laptops and cameras if they feel like it and
sending them back months later.

A


On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Dave Taylor <taylor at intuitive.com> wrote:

>  I guess I should say anyone shooting?  I picked up a new lens, 85mm
> f/1.2L canon lens and would love to get out and shoot some people/street
> stuff - anyone going out and doing any planned shooting?  Anyone taking any
> pictures at all?  Hello?
>
>
> Too busy parenting this summer to take too many pics, but it looks like I'm
> taking my gang to LA later in the month and that'll be a good chance to drag
> along some of my Nikon gear. Hopefully. :-)
>
> Dave
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From googlecal at lowrimore.com  Sun Jul 13 11:19:32 2008
From: googlecal at lowrimore.com (Gregg)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:19:32 -0700
Subject: [FRPS] Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 Camera Lens for $310 + $7 s&h
Message-ID: <0016e64653f24717f30451e94d12@google.com>

For you Canon shooters out there....

Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader: Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 Camera Lens
for $310 + $7 s&h via dealmac - 20 most recent deals. by dealmac.com on
7/12/08 JR.com offers the Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM Autofocus Camera
Lens, model no. 2515A003, for $309.88. With $6.95 for shipping, it's
the lowest total in-stock price we could find. This 10.2-oz. lens is
for use with Canon EF-mount SLR cameras.
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From gregg at lowrimore.com  Sun Jul 13 11:29:57 2008
From: gregg at lowrimore.com (Gregg Lowrimore)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:29:57 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] shooting anyone?
In-Reply-To: <e06096240807121509p1df63cc1h846fe246cc738041@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e06096240807121509p1df63cc1h846fe246cc738041@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <996B9CC6-AAE3-41C5-A967-401E73F655EF@lowrimore.com>

I've been shooting, check my web site for samples. Just been ultra  
busy in between.

On Jul 12, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Andrew Carlson wrote:

> I guess I should say anyone shooting?  I picked up a new lens, 85mm  
> f/1.2L canon lens and would love to get out and shoot some people/ 
> street stuff - anyone going out and doing any planned shooting?   
> Anyone taking any pictures at all?  Hello?
> (Why do I hear the sound of crickets chirping?) :)
>
> Andrew
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FRPS mailing list
> FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps


From gregg at lowrimore.com  Sun Jul 13 11:31:31 2008
From: gregg at lowrimore.com (Gregg Lowrimore)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:31:31 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] shooting anyone?
In-Reply-To: <e06096240807121509p1df63cc1h846fe246cc738041@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e06096240807121509p1df63cc1h846fe246cc738041@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <873CE6DC-8031-400F-8344-ACBD2879F66E@lowrimore.com>

Maybe we should ask if anyone is busy next weekend? The Lake Isabelle  
hike/walk could be really flower-ful. I still have to check my  
calendar for next weekend, but I'd be up for the walk.

On Jul 12, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Andrew Carlson wrote:

> I guess I should say anyone shooting?  I picked up a new lens, 85mm  
> f/1.2L canon lens and would love to get out and shoot some people/ 
> street stuff - anyone going out and doing any planned shooting?   
> Anyone taking any pictures at all?  Hello?
> (Why do I hear the sound of crickets chirping?) :)
>
> Andrew
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FRPS mailing list
> FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps


From knoche at wdk.com  Mon Jul 14 10:13:54 2008
From: knoche at wdk.com (William D. Knoche)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:13:54 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] shooting anyone?
In-Reply-To: <e06096240807122317l546ba76au6787d9042ca7e833@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e06096240807121509p1df63cc1h846fe246cc738041@mail.gmail.com>	<C49ED87D.6A7EE%taylor@intuitive.com>
	<e06096240807122317l546ba76au6787d9042ca7e833@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <487B5F22.4070004@wdk.com>

This is why I refuse to travel by air for work or other.
It won't change unless we vote with our dollars.

I did drive to Arizona and spent a week in Sedona. A few pics along West 
Fork and we did stop in Chaco Canyon for a night. Just playing with my 
new D300.

I could be up for a trip out next weekend.

--bill

Andrew Carlson wrote:
> I don't think I'll join you - did go to Vegas this week but for 
> reasons not related to photography so no camera.  I did get to use a 
> point & bitch and that's about all I did was complain because I 
> couldn't figure out how to get it into manual mode and set 
> aperture/shutter speed.  Vegas was fun if hot and I forgot how bad air 
> travel was, its gotten worse.  Which was why I chose not to drag the 
> photo gear along for fear of it being confiscated.  The TSA is now 
> confiscating laptops and cameras if they feel like it and sending them 
> back months later.
>
> A
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Dave Taylor <taylor at intuitive.com 
> <mailto:taylor at intuitive.com>> wrote:
>
>         I guess I should say anyone shooting?  I picked up a new lens,
>         85mm f/1.2L canon lens and would love to get out and shoot
>         some people/street stuff - anyone going out and doing any
>         planned shooting?  Anyone taking any pictures at all?  Hello?  
>
>
>     Too busy parenting this summer to take too many pics, but it looks
>     like I'm taking my gang to LA later in the month and that'll be a
>     good chance to drag along some of my Nikon gear. Hopefully. :-)
>
>     Dave
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     FRPS mailing list
>     FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com
>     <mailto:FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com>
>     http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> FRPS mailing list
> FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/frps
>   

From googlecal at lowrimore.com  Mon Jul 14 17:56:57 2008
From: googlecal at lowrimore.com (Gregg)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:56:57 -0700
Subject: [FRPS] Socket Sense, where have you been all my life?
Message-ID: <001636e0a7985ce0fa045202f8fc@google.com>

Why didn't we think of this and made a fortune to finance all our photo
gear purchases?

Wow. Brilliant!

Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader: Socket Sense, where have you
been all my life? via CrunchGear by Doug Aamoth on 7/14/08


Socket Sense is a power strip with plugs set at 45-degree angles. Each
one expands or contracts based on the size of the thing you need to
plug in. Brilliant. My current surge protector makes me sad now.

It?s $30, available here, and is good for over 2,000 joules of surge
protection.



via Switched



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From calendar-notification at google.com  Mon Jul 14 20:30:02 2008
From: calendar-notification at google.com (Google Calendar)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:30:02 -0700
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frps at frontrangephotosociety.com, this is a reminder for

Title: FRPS Meeting
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From gregg at lowrimore.com  Wed Jul 16 12:16:29 2008
From: gregg at lowrimore.com (Gregg Lowrimore)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:16:29 -0600
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From googlecal at lowrimore.com  Wed Jul 16 14:55:15 2008
From: googlecal at lowrimore.com (Gregg)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:55:15 -0700
Subject: [FRPS] One file, two exposures
Message-ID: <0016e645ba4a3e7da6045228aab1@google.com>

Wes and I discussed this technic briefly at last night's FRPS social at
Casa. Here's a posting by Dave Cross with many more details for you Wes.

Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader: One file, two exposures via
dave cross online by Dave Cross on 7/16/08 In my guest blog over at
scottkelby.com I made reference to a situation where I was forced to
take a quick shot and used two exposures from Camera Raw to create what
I would have liked to get in-camera - if time had permitted. A few
people have asked how I did that technique, so here's a relatively
quick overview....

1. After setting the size and resolution in Camera Raw, I exposed for
the sky, ignoring what it would do to the wall. I increased the
exposure a little, pushed the Recovery slider all the way to try to
deal with the areas of the sky that were over-exposed, and played with
color temperature, Vibrance and Saturation.

2. After opening the image into Photoshop, I used the Open Recent menu
to open the same file again. Since the file was in Raw, it opened again
in ACR. This time I exposed for the wall, knowing that it would blow
out the sky. I had to increase Exposure and lower Recovery to get the
wall to look the way I wanted. Then I opened this 2nd version of the
photo.

3. Using the Move tool with the Shift key held down, I dragged the
version with the over-exposed sky onto the document with the "good"
sky. This created a second layer (and by holding down Shift as I
dragged, I'm assured that the 2 layers are perfectly aligned).

4. Since the sky is so overexposed, the first thing I typically try is
the Blend If sliders - when this works, it's almost like magic, but
some times it doesn't work quite so well and I go with plan b (see
below). Double-click on the top layer to open the Layer Styles dialog
and use the white slider under the "this layer" slider to drag to the
left. This makes all the white areas transparent: in this case it makes
the over-exposed sky transparent, letting the "good" sky show through.
(I also held down Option/Alt to split the triangle to make a softer
transition to the transparent area)

5. There were a few areas that didn't quite look as good as would have
liked, so I added a Layer Mask to manually paint (with black) a few
edges to hide them and let more of the good sky show through.

PLan B.
When the blend if sliders don't work very well, I usually use a
Channel-based selection to make a layer mask:
1. I choose the channel that has the best contrast between the sky and
the wall, in this case the Blue Channel and duplicate it.

2. Then I use the Apply Image command several times to make the sky
area whiter and the wall area darker.

3. I make a large selection of all the areas inside the wall and fill
with black to create the look of the mask that I wanted (it's still a
channel at this point)

4. I Command/Ctrl click on the channel thumbnail to turn it into a
selection and on the top layer add a layer mask (in the case I had to
Invert the mask to get the desired effect, which was to mask the
over-exposed show the layer below shows through)


By the way, I could have done this whole thing using Smart Objects from
ACR, but that's another tutorial for another time...
Hope this helps demonstrate how you can combine 2 (or more) exposure
from one Raw file.
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From wbsullivan at mesanetworks.net  Thu Jul 17 08:58:30 2008
From: wbsullivan at mesanetworks.net (wbsullivan)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:58:30 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] One file, two exposures
In-Reply-To: <0016e645ba4a3e7da6045228aab1@google.com>
References: <0016e645ba4a3e7da6045228aab1@google.com>
Message-ID: <008701c8e80c$d0155650$704002f0$@net>

Thanks ? f stop/distance tables?

wbs

 

From: frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com [mailto:frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com] On Behalf Of Gregg
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:55 PM
To: frps at frontrangephotosociety.com
Subject: [FRPS] One file, two exposures

 

Wes and I discussed this technic briefly at last night's FRPS social at Casa. Here's a posting by Dave Cross with many more details for you Wes.

 

 


Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader:


 

 


One file, two <http://davecross.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-i-did-it.html>  exposures


via dave cross online <http://davecross.blogspot.com/>  by Dave Cross on 7/16/08


In my guest blog over at scottkelby.com <http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1669#comments>  I made reference to a situation where I was forced to take a quick shot and used two exposures from Camera Raw to create what I would have liked to get in-camera - if time had permitted. A few people have asked how I did that technique, so here's a relatively quick overview....

1. After setting the size and resolution in Camera Raw, I exposed for the sky, ignoring what it would do to the wall. I increased the exposure a little, pushed the Recovery slider all the way to try to deal with the areas of the sky that were over-exposed, and played with color temperature, Vibrance and Saturation.
 <http://bp1.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yio7XgBI/AAAAAAAAAQY/L5-xwQ_3Chc/s1600-h/ACR1.jpg> 
2. After opening the image into Photoshop, I used the Open Recent menu to open the same file again. Since the file was in Raw, it opened again in ACR. This time I exposed for the wall, knowing that it would blow out the sky. I had to increase Exposure and lower Recovery to get the wall to look the way I wanted. Then I opened this 2nd version of the photo.
 <http://bp1.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yizm2MKI/AAAAAAAAAQg/Hbqwr7Z7Rmo/s1600-h/ACR2.jpg> 
3. Using the Move tool with the Shift key held down, I dragged the version with the over-exposed sky onto the document with the "good" sky. This created a second layer (and by holding down Shift as I dragged, I'm assured that the 2 layers are perfectly aligned).
 <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yiwY38cI/AAAAAAAAAQo/5H3DS9uXM9k/s1600-h/3.jpg> 
4. Since the sky is so overexposed, the first thing I typically try is the Blend If sliders - when this works, it's almost like magic, but some times it doesn't work quite so well and I go with plan b (see below). Double-click on the top layer to open the Layer Styles dialog and use the white slider under the "this layer" slider to drag to the left. This makes all the white areas transparent: in this case it makes the over-exposed sky transparent, letting the "good" sky show through. (I also held down Option/Alt to split the triangle to make a softer transition to the transparent area)
 <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yjO3G9BI/AAAAAAAAAQw/7oOdg00Bpsw/s1600-h/4.jpg> 
5. There were a few areas that didn't quite look as good as would have liked, so I added a Layer Mask to manually paint (with black) a few edges to hide them and let more of the good sky show through.
 <http://bp3.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41BLHbkqI/AAAAAAAAARA/2t3Kw18mxpM/s1600-h/6.jpg>  <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yjt9UNnI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/EuEqNsxSQOI/s1600-h/5.jpg> 
PLan B.
When the blend if sliders don't work very well, I usually use a Channel-based selection to make a layer mask:
1. I choose the channel that has the best contrast between the sky and the wall, in this case the Blue Channel and duplicate it.
 <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41BsiU1_I/AAAAAAAAARI/CnAG1QFnkvA/s1600-h/7.jpg> 
2. Then I use the Apply Image command several times to make the sky area whiter and the wall area darker.
 <http://bp1.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41B9K61HI/AAAAAAAAARQ/UoVuxD_kvYY/s1600-h/8.jpg> 
3. I make a large selection of all the areas inside the wall and fill with black to create the look of the mask that I wanted (it's still a channel at this point)
 <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41CDKibqI/AAAAAAAAARY/zTDC0HMbfI4/s1600-h/9.jpg> 
4. I Command/Ctrl click on the channel thumbnail to turn it into a selection and on the top layer add a layer mask (in the case I had to Invert the mask to get the desired effect, which was to mask the over-exposed show the layer below shows through)
 <http://bp3.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41CLj_b7I/AAAAAAAAARg/iX3FOlNXzLY/s1600-h/10.jpg> 

By the way, I could have done this whole thing using Smart Objects from ACR, but that's another tutorial for another time...
Hope this helps demonstrate how you can combine 2 (or more) exposure from one Raw file.

 

 

 


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From tundrawinds at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 17 09:16:13 2008
From: tundrawinds at earthlink.net (Donna Dannen)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:16:13 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] One file, two exposures
In-Reply-To: <0016e645ba4a3e7da6045228aab1@google.com>
Message-ID: <C4A4A23D.AEFD%tundrawinds@earthlink.net>

Thanks for this, Greg.  I?ve been to recent seminars that touch on this
technique, but the steps to it were not detailed.  I also found an 11-page
description of a how-to on FLICKR.  I should see if I can refind the link.
It?s being used a lot everywhere, and for landscape photographers, a
wonderful technique in difficult lighting situations.  HDR, which is close,
but a bit different, is all the rage now, as well.
-- 
Donna 
Evergreen, Colorado



From: Gregg <googlecal at lowrimore.com>
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<frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:55:15 -0700
To: <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
Subject: [FRPS] One file, two exposures

Wes and I discussed this technic briefly at last night's FRPS social at
Casa. Here's a posting by Dave Cross with many more details for you Wes.

 
 
Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader:
 
 
One file, two exposures
<http://davecross.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-i-did-it.html>
via dave cross online <http://davecross.blogspot.com/>  by Dave Cross on
7/16/08

In my guest blog over at scottkelby.com
<http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1669#comments>  I made
reference to a situation where I was forced to take a quick shot and used
two exposures from Camera Raw to create what I would have liked to get
in-camera - if time had permitted. A few people have asked how I did that
technique, so here's a relatively quick overview....

1. After setting the size and resolution in Camera Raw, I exposed for the
sky, ignoring what it would do to the wall. I increased the exposure a
little, pushed the Recovery slider all the way to try to deal with the areas
of the sky that were over-exposed, and played with color temperature,
Vibrance and Saturation.
 <http://bp1.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yio7XgBI/AAAAAAAAAQY/L5-xwQ_3Chc/s1
600-h/ACR1.jpg> 
2. After opening the image into Photoshop, I used the Open Recent menu to
open the same file again. Since the file was in Raw, it opened again in ACR.
This time I exposed for the wall, knowing that it would blow out the sky. I
had to increase Exposure and lower Recovery to get the wall to look the way
I wanted. Then I opened this 2nd version of the photo.
 <http://bp1.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yizm2MKI/AAAAAAAAAQg/Hbqwr7Z7Rmo/s1
600-h/ACR2.jpg> 
3. Using the Move tool with the Shift key held down, I dragged the version
with the over-exposed sky onto the document with the "good" sky. This
created a second layer (and by holding down Shift as I dragged, I'm assured
that the 2 layers are perfectly aligned).
 <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yiwY38cI/AAAAAAAAAQo/5H3DS9uXM9k/s1
600-h/3.jpg> 
4. Since the sky is so overexposed, the first thing I typically try is the
Blend If sliders - when this works, it's almost like magic, but some times
it doesn't work quite so well and I go with plan b (see below). Double-click
on the top layer to open the Layer Styles dialog and use the white slider
under the "this layer" slider to drag to the left. This makes all the white
areas transparent: in this case it makes the over-exposed sky transparent,
letting the "good" sky show through. (I also held down Option/Alt to split
the triangle to make a softer transition to the transparent area)
 <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yjO3G9BI/AAAAAAAAAQw/7oOdg00Bpsw/s1
600-h/4.jpg> 
5. There were a few areas that didn't quite look as good as would have
liked, so I added a Layer Mask to manually paint (with black) a few edges to
hide them and let more of the good sky show through.
 <http://bp3.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41BLHbkqI/AAAAAAAAARA/2t3Kw18mxpM/s1
600-h/6.jpg>  
<http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yjt9UNnI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/EuEqNsxSQOI/s16
00-h/5.jpg> 
PLan B.
When the blend if sliders don't work very well, I usually use a
Channel-based selection to make a layer mask:
1. I choose the channel that has the best contrast between the sky and the
wall, in this case the Blue Channel and duplicate it.
 <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41BsiU1_I/AAAAAAAAARI/CnAG1QFnkvA/s1
600-h/7.jpg> 
2. Then I use the Apply Image command several times to make the sky area
whiter and the wall area darker.
 <http://bp1.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41B9K61HI/AAAAAAAAARQ/UoVuxD_kvYY/s1
600-h/8.jpg> 
3. I make a large selection of all the areas inside the wall and fill with
black to create the look of the mask that I wanted (it's still a channel at
this point)
 <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41CDKibqI/AAAAAAAAARY/zTDC0HMbfI4/s1
600-h/9.jpg> 
4. I Command/Ctrl click on the channel thumbnail to turn it into a selection
and on the top layer add a layer mask (in the case I had to Invert the mask
to get the desired effect, which was to mask the over-exposed show the layer
below shows through)
 <http://bp3.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41CLj_b7I/AAAAAAAAARg/iX3FOlNXzLY/s1
600-h/10.jpg> 

By the way, I could have done this whole thing using Smart Objects from ACR,
but that's another tutorial for another time...
Hope this helps demonstrate how you can combine 2 (or more) exposure from
one Raw file.

 
 
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From tundrawinds at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 17 09:31:58 2008
From: tundrawinds at earthlink.net (Donna Dannen)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:31:58 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] One file, two exposures
In-Reply-To: <0016e645ba4a3e7da6045228aab1@google.com>
Message-ID: <C4A4A5EE.AEFF%tundrawinds@earthlink.net>

Here?s that link:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/rockypix/2452578648/
-- 
Donna & the Tundra Winds Team
Evergreen, Colorado



From: Gregg <googlecal at lowrimore.com>
Reply-To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
<frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:55:15 -0700
To: <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
Subject: [FRPS] One file, two exposures

Wes and I discussed this technic briefly at last night's FRPS social at
Casa. Here's a posting by Dave Cross with many more details for you Wes.

 
 
Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader:
 
 
One file, two exposures
<http://davecross.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-i-did-it.html>
via dave cross online <http://davecross.blogspot.com/>  by Dave Cross on
7/16/08

In my guest blog over at scottkelby.com
<http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1669#comments>  I made
reference to a situation where I was forced to take a quick shot and used
two exposures from Camera Raw to create what I would have liked to get
in-camera - if time had permitted. A few people have asked how I did that
technique, so here's a relatively quick overview....

1. After setting the size and resolution in Camera Raw, I exposed for the
sky, ignoring what it would do to the wall. I increased the exposure a
little, pushed the Recovery slider all the way to try to deal with the areas
of the sky that were over-exposed, and played with color temperature,
Vibrance and Saturation.
 <http://bp1.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yio7XgBI/AAAAAAAAAQY/L5-xwQ_3Chc/s1
600-h/ACR1.jpg> 
2. After opening the image into Photoshop, I used the Open Recent menu to
open the same file again. Since the file was in Raw, it opened again in ACR.
This time I exposed for the wall, knowing that it would blow out the sky. I
had to increase Exposure and lower Recovery to get the wall to look the way
I wanted. Then I opened this 2nd version of the photo.
 <http://bp1.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yizm2MKI/AAAAAAAAAQg/Hbqwr7Z7Rmo/s1
600-h/ACR2.jpg> 
3. Using the Move tool with the Shift key held down, I dragged the version
with the over-exposed sky onto the document with the "good" sky. This
created a second layer (and by holding down Shift as I dragged, I'm assured
that the 2 layers are perfectly aligned).
 <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yiwY38cI/AAAAAAAAAQo/5H3DS9uXM9k/s1
600-h/3.jpg> 
4. Since the sky is so overexposed, the first thing I typically try is the
Blend If sliders - when this works, it's almost like magic, but some times
it doesn't work quite so well and I go with plan b (see below). Double-click
on the top layer to open the Layer Styles dialog and use the white slider
under the "this layer" slider to drag to the left. This makes all the white
areas transparent: in this case it makes the over-exposed sky transparent,
letting the "good" sky show through. (I also held down Option/Alt to split
the triangle to make a softer transition to the transparent area)
 <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yjO3G9BI/AAAAAAAAAQw/7oOdg00Bpsw/s1
600-h/4.jpg> 
5. There were a few areas that didn't quite look as good as would have
liked, so I added a Layer Mask to manually paint (with black) a few edges to
hide them and let more of the good sky show through.
 <http://bp3.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41BLHbkqI/AAAAAAAAARA/2t3Kw18mxpM/s1
600-h/6.jpg>  
<http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH4yjt9UNnI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/EuEqNsxSQOI/s16
00-h/5.jpg> 
PLan B.
When the blend if sliders don't work very well, I usually use a
Channel-based selection to make a layer mask:
1. I choose the channel that has the best contrast between the sky and the
wall, in this case the Blue Channel and duplicate it.
 <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41BsiU1_I/AAAAAAAAARI/CnAG1QFnkvA/s1
600-h/7.jpg> 
2. Then I use the Apply Image command several times to make the sky area
whiter and the wall area darker.
 <http://bp1.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41B9K61HI/AAAAAAAAARQ/UoVuxD_kvYY/s1
600-h/8.jpg> 
3. I make a large selection of all the areas inside the wall and fill with
black to create the look of the mask that I wanted (it's still a channel at
this point)
 <http://bp2.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41CDKibqI/AAAAAAAAARY/zTDC0HMbfI4/s1
600-h/9.jpg> 
4. I Command/Ctrl click on the channel thumbnail to turn it into a selection
and on the top layer add a layer mask (in the case I had to Invert the mask
to get the desired effect, which was to mask the over-exposed show the layer
below shows through)
 <http://bp3.blogger.com/_SzvEBbZ4RUY/SH41CLj_b7I/AAAAAAAAARg/iX3FOlNXzLY/s1
600-h/10.jpg> 

By the way, I could have done this whole thing using Smart Objects from ACR,
but that's another tutorial for another time...
Hope this helps demonstrate how you can combine 2 (or more) exposure from
one Raw file.

 
 
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From gregg at lowrimore.com  Thu Jul 17 10:41:05 2008
From: gregg at lowrimore.com (Gregg Lowrimore)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:41:05 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] One file, two exposures
In-Reply-To: <008701c8e80c$d0155650$704002f0$@net>
References: <0016e645ba4a3e7da6045228aab1@google.com>
	<008701c8e80c$d0155650$704002f0$@net>
Message-ID: <00090693-9251-49C1-8487-9BFD02D7032E@lowrimore.com>

Oh yeah. Thanks for the reminder!

Sent from my iphone

On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:58 AM, "wbsullivan"  
<wbsullivan at mesanetworks.net> wrote:

> Thanks ? f stop/distance tables?
>
> wbs
>
>
>
> From: frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com [mailto:frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Gregg
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:55 PM
> To: frps at frontrangephotosociety.com
> Subject: [FRPS] One file, two exposures
>
>
>
> Wes and I discussed this technic briefly at last night's FRPS social  
> at Casa. Here's a posting by Dave Cross with many more details for  
> you Wes.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader:
>
>
>
>
> One file, two exposures
> via dave cross online by Dave Cross on 7/16/08
>
>
> In my guest blog over at scottkelby.com I made reference to a  
> situation where I was forced to take a quick shot and used two  
> exposures from Camera Raw to create what I would have liked to get  
> in-camera - if time had permitted. A few people have asked how I did  
> that technique, so here's a relatively quick overview....
>
> 1. After setting the size and resolution in Camera Raw, I exposed  
> for the sky, ignoring what it would do to the wall. I increased the  
> exposure a little, pushed the Recovery slider all the way to try to  
> deal with the areas of the sky that were over-exposed, and played  
> with color temperature, Vibrance and Saturation.
>
> 2. After opening the image into Photoshop, I used the Open Recent  
> menu to open the same file again. Since the file was in Raw, it  
> opened again in ACR. This time I exposed for the wall, knowing that  
> it would blow out the sky. I had to increase Exposure and lower  
> Recovery to get the wall to look the way I wanted. Then I opened  
> this 2nd version of the photo.
>
> 3. Using the Move tool with the Shift key held down, I dragged the  
> version with the over-exposed sky onto the document with the "good"  
> sky. This created a second layer (and by holding down Shift as I  
> dragged, I'm assured that the 2 layers are perfectly aligned).
>
> 4. Since the sky is so overexposed, the first thing I typically try  
> is the Blend If sliders - when this works, it's almost like magic,  
> but some times it doesn't work quite so well and I go with plan b  
> (see below). Double-click on the top layer to open the Layer Styles  
> dialog and use the white slider under the "this layer" slider to  
> drag to the left. This makes all the white areas transparent: in  
> this case it makes the over-exposed sky transparent, letting the  
> "good" sky show through. (I also held down Option/Alt to split the  
> triangle to make a softer transition to the transparent area)
>
> 5. There were a few areas that didn't quite look as good as would  
> have liked, so I added a Layer Mask to manually paint (with black) a  
> few edges to hide them and let more of the good sky show through.
>
> PLan B.
> When the blend if sliders don't work very well, I usually use a  
> Channel-based selection to make a layer mask:
> 1. I choose the channel that has the best contrast between the sky  
> and the wall, in this case the Blue Channel and duplicate it.
>
> 2. Then I use the Apply Image command several times to make the sky  
> area whiter and the wall area darker.
>
> 3. I make a large selection of all the areas inside the wall and  
> fill with black to create the look of the mask that I wanted (it's  
> still a channel at this point)
>
> 4. I Command/Ctrl click on the channel thumbnail to turn it into a  
> selection and on the top layer add a layer mask (in the case I had  
> to Invert the mask to get the desired effect, which was to mask the  
> over-exposed show the layer below shows through)
>
>
> By the way, I could have done this whole thing using Smart Objects  
> from ACR, but that's another tutorial for another time...
> Hope this helps demonstrate how you can combine 2 (or more) exposure  
> from one Raw file.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Things you can do from here:
> Subscribe to dave cross online using Google Reader
> Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your  
> favorite sites
>
>
>
>
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From googlecal at lowrimore.com  Fri Jul 18 17:49:12 2008
From: googlecal at lowrimore.com (Gregg)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:49:12 -0700
Subject: [FRPS] Digital Foci's Photo Safe II takes the load off of your
	flash card
Message-ID: <0015174c0fa802d4c00452535441@google.com>

And here's another photo safe....

Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader: Digital Foci's Photo Safe II
takes the load off of your flash card via Engadget by Darren Murph on
7/18/08
Filed under: Digital Cameras, Storage

Digital Foci didn't go out of its way to drastically redesign the
original Photo Safe, but we 'spose that's alright in the grand scheme
of things. Essentially, the Photo Safe II picks up where its
predecessor left off by including a multicard reader (now with 100%
more MS Duo and miniSD support) which automatically transfers photos
from your flash card onto the built-in 80GB / 160GB hard drive. The
integrated display tells you at a glance how much space is remaining
and how much battery life is left, though it won't show your stored
photos in slideshow (or any other) fashion. A touch steep at $139
(80GB) / $189 (160GB), but that's convenience for you.

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From j88per at gmail.com  Fri Jul 18 19:40:06 2008
From: j88per at gmail.com (Andrew Carlson)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:40:06 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Question
Message-ID: <e06096240807181640k34cadac4n98ec437ff105a824@mail.gmail.com>

Are there any places locally than can repair a shutter for 4x5 camera?

Andrew
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From tundrawinds at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 18 20:51:24 2008
From: tundrawinds at earthlink.net (Donna Dannen)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:51:24 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Digital Foci's Photo Safe II takes the load off of your
 flash card
In-Reply-To: <0015174c0fa802d4c00452535441@google.com>
Message-ID: <C4A696AC.AF91%tundrawinds@earthlink.net>

Thanks, Greg.....I?m pondering all of this.....
-- 
Donna & the Tundra Winds Team
Evergreen, Colorado



From: Gregg <googlecal at lowrimore.com>
Reply-To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
<frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:49:12 -0700
To: <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
Subject: [FRPS] Digital Foci's Photo Safe II takes the load off of your
flash card

And here's another photo safe....

 
 
Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader:
 
 
Digital Foci's Photo Safe II takes the load off of your flash card
<http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/339322630/>
via Engadget <http://www.engadget.com>  by Darren Murph on 7/18/08


Filed under: Digital Cameras
<http://www.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/> , Storage
<http://www.engadget.com/category/storage/>

 <http://www.thomas-pr.com/pressreleases/digitalfociphotosafeIIrelease.html>
Digital Foci didn't go out of its way to drastically redesign the original
Photo Safe 
<http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/digital-focis-photo-safe-compact-storage
-for-photogs/> , but we 'spose that's alright in the grand scheme of things.
Essentially, the Photo Safe II picks up where its predecessor left off by
including a multicard reader (now with 100% more MS Duo and miniSD support)
which automatically transfers photos
<http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/14/polaroids-cga-02540-provides-clickfree-b
ackup-for-photos/>  from your flash card onto the built-in 80GB / 160GB hard
drive. The integrated display tells you at a glance how much space is
remaining and how much battery life is left, though it won't show your
stored photos in slideshow (or any other) fashion. A touch steep at $139
(80GB) / $189 (160GB), but that's convenience for you.

[Via jkOnTheRun <http://www.jkontherun.com/2008/07/offload-photos.html> ]
Read 
<http://www.thomas-pr.com/pressreleases/digitalfociphotosafeIIrelease.html>
?|?Permalink 
<http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/18/digital-focis-photo-safe-ii-takes-the-lo
ad-off-of-your-flash-ca/> ?|?Email this
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From j88per at gmail.com  Fri Jul 18 21:02:50 2008
From: j88per at gmail.com (Andrew Carlson)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:02:50 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Digital Foci's Photo Safe II takes the load off of your
	flash card
In-Reply-To: <C4A696AC.AF91%tundrawinds@earthlink.net>
References: <0015174c0fa802d4c00452535441@google.com>
	<C4A696AC.AF91%tundrawinds@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <e06096240807181802g5c57c9dchb4ab6681be481692@mail.gmail.com>

I've used one of these, not this particular brand, and it was very
convenient - until the usb port broke.  However as flash memory gets
simultaneously smaller and larger it becomes unnecessary.  When I shot 1000
images at a single hockey game I was covered by 3 2GB CF cards and didn't
even fill them all up, 1 per period.

What I learned with these is that they are power intensive - mine would suck
its internal batter to nothing in less than 4 hours so keep it charged and
that alone makes them not worth the expense - but thats only my opinion.
And that 4hour drain was constant - not just while in use.  I have yet to
see a pine tree with a power outlet naturally embedded in it.

Andrew


On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Donna Dannen <tundrawinds at earthlink.net>
wrote:

>  Thanks, Greg.....I'm pondering all of this.....
> --
> Donna & the Tundra Winds Team
> Evergreen, Colorado
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *Gregg <googlecal at lowrimore.com>
> *Reply-To: *Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <
> frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
> *Date: *Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:49:12 -0700
> *To: *<frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
> *Subject: *[FRPS] Digital Foci's Photo Safe II takes the load off of your
> flash card
>
> And here's another photo safe....
>
>
>
> *Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader:
> *
>
> *Digital Foci's Photo Safe II takes the load off of your flash card
> <http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/339322630/><http://feeds.engadget.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/engadget/%7E3/339322630/>
> *via Engadget <http://www.engadget.com> <http://www.engadget.com>  by
> Darren Murph on 7/18/08
>
>
> Filed under: Digital Cameras
> <http://www.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/><http://www.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/>, Storage
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> Digital Foci didn't go out of its way to drastically redesign the original
> Photo Safe
> <http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/digital-focis-photo-safe-compact-storage-for-photogs/><http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/digital-focis-photo-safe-compact-storage-for-photogs/>, but we 'spose that's alright in the grand scheme of things. Essentially,
> the Photo Safe II picks up where its predecessor left off by including a
> multicard reader (now with 100% more MS Duo and miniSD support) which
> automatically transfers photos
> <http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/14/polaroids-cga-02540-provides-clickfree-backup-for-photos/><http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/14/polaroids-cga-02540-provides-clickfree-backup-for-photos/> from your flash card onto the built-in 80GB / 160GB hard drive. The
> integrated display tells you at a glance how much space is remaining and how
> much battery life is left, though it won't show your stored photos in
> slideshow (or any other) fashion. A touch steep at $139 (80GB) / $189
> (160GB), but that's convenience for you.
>
> [Via jkOnTheRun <http://www.jkontherun.com/2008/07/offload-photos.html><http://www.jkontherun.com/2008/07/offload-photos.html>]
> Read
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From tundrawinds at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 18 21:15:32 2008
From: tundrawinds at earthlink.net (Donna Dannen)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:15:32 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Digital Foci's Photo Safe II takes the load off of your
 flash card
In-Reply-To: <e06096240807181802g5c57c9dchb4ab6681be481692@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4A69C54.AF97%tundrawinds@earthlink.net>

How true about the pine tree........I?m still thinking laptop....refurbished
or Craig?s List.....
-- 
Donna & the Tundra Winds Team
Evergreen, Colorado



From: Andrew Carlson <j88per at gmail.com>
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<frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:02:50 -0600
To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
Subject: Re: [FRPS] Digital Foci's Photo Safe II takes the load off of your
flash card

I've used one of these, not this particular brand, and it was very
convenient - until the usb port broke.  However as flash memory gets
simultaneously smaller and larger it becomes unnecessary.  When I shot 1000
images at a single hockey game I was covered by 3 2GB CF cards and didn't
even fill them all up, 1 per period.

What I learned with these is that they are power intensive - mine would suck
its internal batter to nothing in less than 4 hours so keep it charged and
that alone makes them not worth the expense - but thats only my opinion.
And that 4hour drain was constant - not just while in use.  I have yet to
see a pine tree with a power outlet naturally embedded in it.

Andrew


On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Donna Dannen <tundrawinds at earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Thanks, Greg.....I'm pondering all of this.....
> -- 
> Donna & the Tundra Winds Team
> Evergreen, Colorado
> 
> 
> 
> From: Gregg <googlecal at lowrimore.com>
> Reply-To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
> <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:49:12 -0700
> To: <frps at frontrangephotosociety.com>
> Subject: [FRPS] Digital Foci's Photo Safe II takes the load off of your flash
> card
> 
> And here's another photo safe....
> 
>  
>  
> Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader:
>  
>  
> Digital Foci's Photo Safe II takes the load off of your flash card
> <http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/339322630/>
> <http://feeds.engadget.com/%7Er/weblogsinc/engadget/%7E3/339322630/>
> via Engadget <http://www.engadget.com>  by Darren Murph on 7/18/08
> 
> 
> Filed under: Digital Cameras
> <http://www.engadget.com/category/digitalcameras/> , Storage
> <http://www.engadget.com/category/storage/>
> 
>  <http://www.thomas-pr.com/pressreleases/digitalfociphotosafeIIrelease.html>
> 
> Digital Foci didn't go out of its way to drastically redesign the original
> Photo Safe 
> <http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/06/digital-focis-photo-safe-compact-storage-f
> or-photogs/> , but we 'spose that's alright in the grand scheme of things.
> Essentially, the Photo Safe II picks up where its predecessor left off by
> including a multicard reader (now with 100% more MS Duo and miniSD support)
> which automatically transfers photos
> <http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/14/polaroids-cga-02540-provides-clickfree-bac
> kup-for-photos/>  from your flash card onto the built-in 80GB / 160GB hard
> drive. The integrated display tells you at a glance how much space is
> remaining and how much battery life is left, though it won't show your stored
> photos in slideshow (or any other) fashion. A touch steep at $139 (80GB) /
> $189 (160GB), but that's convenience for you.
> 
> [Via jkOnTheRun <http://www.jkontherun.com/2008/07/offload-photos.html> ]
> Read 
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From gregg at lowrimore.com  Sat Jul 19 12:31:29 2008
From: gregg at lowrimore.com (Gregg Lowrimore)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:31:29 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] One file, two exposures
In-Reply-To: <00090693-9251-49C1-8487-9BFD02D7032E@lowrimore.com>
References: <0016e645ba4a3e7da6045228aab1@google.com>
	<008701c8e80c$d0155650$704002f0$@net>
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Wes,

Even though these charts say Nikon D100, they'll work for any 1.5 crop  
factor dSLR. And how these charts work is this:

Compose your shot and set your lens focal point, say 12mm. Wide-angle  
shot.
Move to Aperture Priority or manual and choose f/22 (or f/16 if you  
can get away with it. Some will argue to go the other way and select f/ 
32, if possible, but most consumer lenses do not have this small an  
aperture.)
Find the row for your focal point in the charts below, then traverse  
over that row until you come to your chosen f-stop at the column  
heading. You'll get a number. That's the distance (in feet) to set  
your focus point for optimal front to back focus.
For example, 12mm at f/22 yields a 1.1 feet focus point. That means I  
set my camera to focus at 1.1 feet and everything from 1.1ft/2 =  
5.5inches to infinite will be in focus. If you don't need that extreme  
of a distance, then back off to f/11 and set your focus point at 2.1ft  
(that'll give you 2.1ft/2 about 12inches to infinite in focus. Make  
sense?

These are handy little charts that you can make at various sites  
around the 'net, or download little applications for your Palm Pilot,  
smartphone, or laptop and calculate it on the fly. Try these out and  
let us know your results.

greggl




On Jul 17, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Lowrimore wrote:

> Oh yeah. Thanks for the reminder!
>
> Sent from my iphone
>
> On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:58 AM, "wbsullivan"  
> <wbsullivan at mesanetworks.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks ? f stop/distance tables?
>>
>> wbs
>>
>>
>>
>> From: frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com [mailto:frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Gregg
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:55 PM
>> To: frps at frontrangephotosociety.com
>> Subject: [FRPS] One file, two exposures
>>
>>
>>
>> Wes and I discussed this technic briefly at last night's FRPS  
>> social at Casa. Here's a posting by Dave Cross with many more  
>> details for you Wes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> One file, two exposures
>> via dave cross online by Dave Cross on 7/16/08
>>
>>
>> In my guest blog over at scottkelby.com I made reference to a  
>> situation where I was forced to take a quick shot and used two  
>> exposures from Camera Raw to create what I would have liked to get  
>> in-camera - if time had permitted. A few people have asked how I  
>> did that technique, so here's a relatively quick overview....
>>
>> 1. After setting the size and resolution in Camera Raw, I exposed  
>> for the sky, ignoring what it would do to the wall. I increased the  
>> exposure a little, pushed the Recovery slider all the way to try to  
>> deal with the areas of the sky that were over-exposed, and played  
>> with color temperature, Vibrance and Saturation.
>>
>> 2. After opening the image into Photoshop, I used the Open Recent  
>> menu to open the same file again. Since the file was in Raw, it  
>> opened again in ACR. This time I exposed for the wall, knowing that  
>> it would blow out the sky. I had to increase Exposure and lower  
>> Recovery to get the wall to look the way I wanted. Then I opened  
>> this 2nd version of the photo.
>>
>> 3. Using the Move tool with the Shift key held down, I dragged the  
>> version with the over-exposed sky onto the document with the "good"  
>> sky. This created a second layer (and by holding down Shift as I  
>> dragged, I'm assured that the 2 layers are perfectly aligned).
>>
>> 4. Since the sky is so overexposed, the first thing I typically try  
>> is the Blend If sliders - when this works, it's almost like magic,  
>> but some times it doesn't work quite so well and I go with plan b  
>> (see below). Double-click on the top layer to open the Layer Styles  
>> dialog and use the white slider under the "this layer" slider to  
>> drag to the left. This makes all the white areas transparent: in  
>> this case it makes the over-exposed sky transparent, letting the  
>> "good" sky show through. (I also held down Option/Alt to split the  
>> triangle to make a softer transition to the transparent area)
>>
>> 5. There were a few areas that didn't quite look as good as would  
>> have liked, so I added a Layer Mask to manually paint (with black)  
>> a few edges to hide them and let more of the good sky show through.
>>
>> PLan B.
>> When the blend if sliders don't work very well, I usually use a  
>> Channel-based selection to make a layer mask:
>> 1. I choose the channel that has the best contrast between the sky  
>> and the wall, in this case the Blue Channel and duplicate it.
>>
>> 2. Then I use the Apply Image command several times to make the sky  
>> area whiter and the wall area darker.
>>
>> 3. I make a large selection of all the areas inside the wall and  
>> fill with black to create the look of the mask that I wanted (it's  
>> still a channel at this point)
>>
>> 4. I Command/Ctrl click on the channel thumbnail to turn it into a  
>> selection and on the top layer add a layer mask (in the case I had  
>> to Invert the mask to get the desired effect, which was to mask the  
>> over-exposed show the layer below shows through)
>>
>>
>> By the way, I could have done this whole thing using Smart Objects  
>> from ACR, but that's another tutorial for another time...
>> Hope this helps demonstrate how you can combine 2 (or more)  
>> exposure from one Raw file.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From mountainshadows at gmail.com  Tue Jul 22 15:49:40 2008
From: mountainshadows at gmail.com (Frank Vincent)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:49:40 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Question
In-Reply-To: <e06096240807181640k34cadac4n98ec437ff105a824@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e06096240807181640k34cadac4n98ec437ff105a824@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4f3f3e970807221249h3742173ej20c8ac9f45048efe@mail.gmail.com>

What's wrong with it?  Sometimes a little exercising will work, especially
if it is in the slower speeds.  What's the brand?  Some are not worth
fixing.

I can often repair one with lighter fluid, but you have to remove the
lenses, etc.

There are a couple of shops in Denver that do shutter repair.  Let me know
and I'll look them up.

Frank

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Andrew Carlson <j88per at gmail.com> wrote:

> Are there any places locally than can repair a shutter for 4x5 camera?
>
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From j88per at gmail.com  Tue Jul 22 15:55:37 2008
From: j88per at gmail.com (Andrew Carlson)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:55:37 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Question
In-Reply-To: <4f3f3e970807221249h3742173ej20c8ac9f45048efe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e06096240807181640k34cadac4n98ec437ff105a824@mail.gmail.com>
	<4f3f3e970807221249h3742173ej20c8ac9f45048efe@mail.gmail.com>
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A good cleaning might do it but the shutter sticks at all speeds.  By sticks
I mean it sticks open- so at 1/125, tripping the shutter it'll open and stay
open.   Not knowing what's inside these things it sounds like a clockwork
mechanism and its sticking.





On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Frank Vincent <mountainshadows at gmail.com>
wrote:

> What's wrong with it?  Sometimes a little exercising will work, especially
> if it is in the slower speeds.  What's the brand?  Some are not worth
> fixing.
>
> I can often repair one with lighter fluid, but you have to remove the
> lenses, etc.
>
> There are a couple of shops in Denver that do shutter repair.  Let me know
> and I'll look them up.
>
> Frank
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Andrew Carlson <j88per at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are there any places locally than can repair a shutter for 4x5 camera?
>>
>> Andrew
>>
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From faxonpr at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 23 08:14:41 2008
From: faxonpr at hotmail.com (Frank Vincent)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:14:41 -0500
Subject: [FRPS] Question
In-Reply-To: <e06096240807221255n49005a6du9c8b99f19e0dff25@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e06096240807181640k34cadac4n98ec437ff105a824@mail.gmail.com>
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Sounds like it needs a good cleaning.  So, what is the type of shutter, if you can find out?  Or what is the camera brand?  Some are not worth the repair.  In any case, it will probably cost about $100-150 to fix it.  Give me a few more details, and I can give you my suggestions.  I have quite a few old film cameras (110+) and have worked on a few shutters myself.

Frank Vincent

Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:55:37 -0600
From: j88per at gmail.com
To: frps at frontrangephotosociety.com
Subject: Re: [FRPS] Question

A good cleaning might do it but the shutter sticks at all speeds.  By sticks I mean it sticks open- so at 1/125, tripping the shutter it'll open and stay open.   Not knowing what's inside these things it sounds like a clockwork mechanism and its sticking.  






On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Frank Vincent <mountainshadows at gmail.com> wrote:

What's wrong with it?  Sometimes a little exercising will work, especially if it is in the slower speeds.  What's the brand?  Some are not worth fixing. 

I can often repair one with lighter fluid, but you have to remove the lenses, etc.



There are a couple of shops in Denver that do shutter repair.  Let me know and I'll look them up.

Frank

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Andrew Carlson <j88per at gmail.com> wrote:


Are there any places locally than can repair a shutter for 4x5 camera?  



Andrew


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From knoche at wdk.com  Wed Jul 23 13:09:19 2008
From: knoche at wdk.com (William D. Knoche)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:09:19 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Question
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References: <e06096240807181640k34cadac4n98ec437ff105a824@mail.gmail.com>	<4f3f3e970807221249h3742173ej20c8ac9f45048efe@mail.gmail.com>
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Brand and size of shutter are important to know. Some are easier to 
repair than others.
It is getting tough to find good repair folks.
It might be worth shopping around for a good used shutter to replace it. 
You can often find a good shutter mounted on an inexpensive lens, 
especially now.
If a cleaning doesn't do it then it might not be worth repair.

I have to admit my 4x5s haven't been out in 4-5 years. I should probably 
check my lenses. It might be fun to actually make some images...

--bill

Frank Vincent wrote:
> Sounds like it needs a good cleaning.  So, what is the type of 
> shutter, if you can find out?  Or what is the camera brand?  Some are 
> not worth the repair.  In any case, it will probably cost about 
> $100-150 to fix it.  Give me a few more details, and I can give you my 
> suggestions.  I have quite a few old film cameras (110+) and have 
> worked on a few shutters myself.
>
> Frank Vincent
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:55:37 -0600
> From: j88per at gmail.com
> To: frps at frontrangephotosociety.com
> Subject: Re: [FRPS] Question
>
> A good cleaning might do it but the shutter sticks at all speeds.  By 
> sticks I mean it sticks open- so at 1/125, tripping the shutter it'll 
> open and stay open.   Not knowing what's inside these things it sounds 
> like a clockwork mechanism and its sticking. 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Frank Vincent 
> <mountainshadows at gmail.com <mailto:mountainshadows at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     What's wrong with it?  Sometimes a little exercising will work,
>     especially if it is in the slower speeds.  What's the brand?  Some
>     are not worth fixing.
>
>     I can often repair one with lighter fluid, but you have to remove
>     the lenses, etc.
>
>     There are a couple of shops in Denver that do shutter repair.  Let
>     me know and I'll look them up.
>
>     Frank
>
>     On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Andrew Carlson <j88per at gmail.com
>     <mailto:j88per at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Are there any places locally than can repair a shutter for 4x5
>         camera? 
>
>         Andrew
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From johnnynjo at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 23 18:39:48 2008
From: johnnynjo at earthlink.net (Johnny & Jo)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:39:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [FRPS] FRPS Digest, Vol 57, Issue 21
Message-ID: <26434761.1216852788681.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Key Camera in Longmont and Ray's in Denver will both work on 4x5

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>From: "Frank Vincent" <mountainshadows at gmail.com>
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>What's wrong with it?  Sometimes a little exercising will work, especially
>if it is in the slower speeds.  What's the brand?  Some are not worth
>fixing.
>
>I can often repair one with lighter fluid, but you have to remove the
>lenses, etc.
>
>There are a couple of shops in Denver that do shutter repair.  Let me know
>and I'll look them up.
>
>Frank
>
>On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Andrew Carlson <j88per at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are there any places locally than can repair a shutter for 4x5 camera?
>>
>> Andrew
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>A good cleaning might do it but the shutter sticks at all speeds.  By sticks
>I mean it sticks open- so at 1/125, tripping the shutter it'll open and stay
>open.   Not knowing what's inside these things it sounds like a clockwork
>mechanism and its sticking.
>
>
>
>
>
>On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Frank Vincent <mountainshadows at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> What's wrong with it?  Sometimes a little exercising will work, especially
>> if it is in the slower speeds.  What's the brand?  Some are not worth
>> fixing.
>>
>> I can often repair one with lighter fluid, but you have to remove the
>> lenses, etc.
>>
>> There are a couple of shops in Denver that do shutter repair.  Let me know
>> and I'll look them up.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Andrew Carlson <j88per at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Are there any places locally than can repair a shutter for 4x5 camera?
>>>
>>> Andrew
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>Sounds like it needs a good cleaning.  So, what is the type of shutter, if you can find out?  Or what is the camera brand?  Some are not worth the repair.  In any case, it will probably cost about $100-150 to fix it.  Give me a few more details, and I can give you my suggestions.  I have quite a few old film cameras (110+) and have worked on a few shutters myself.
>
>Frank Vincent
>
>Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:55:37 -0600
>From: j88per at gmail.com
>To: frps at frontrangephotosociety.com
>Subject: Re: [FRPS] Question
>
>A good cleaning might do it but the shutter sticks at all speeds.  By sticks I mean it sticks open- so at 1/125, tripping the shutter it'll open and stay open.   Not knowing what's inside these things it sounds like a clockwork mechanism and its sticking.  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Frank Vincent <mountainshadows at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>What's wrong with it?  Sometimes a little exercising will work, especially if it is in the slower speeds.  What's the brand?  Some are not worth fixing. 
>
>I can often repair one with lighter fluid, but you have to remove the lenses, etc.
>
>
>
>There are a couple of shops in Denver that do shutter repair.  Let me know and I'll look them up.
>
>Frank
>
>On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Andrew Carlson <j88per at gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>Are there any places locally than can repair a shutter for 4x5 camera?  
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From wbsullivan at mesanetworks.net  Wed Jul 23 20:47:46 2008
From: wbsullivan at mesanetworks.net (wbsullivan)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:47:46 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] One file, two exposures
In-Reply-To: <80BB8AFF-1152-4437-BA1A-A82B719F101B@lowrimore.com>
References: <0016e645ba4a3e7da6045228aab1@google.com>	<008701c8e80c$d0155650$704002f0$@net>	<00090693-9251-49C1-8487-9BFD02D7032E@lowrimore.com>
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Message-ID: <006201c8ed26$e3e9f540$abbddfc0$@net>

Thanks - I'll try it.

wbs

 

From: frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com
[mailto:frps-bounces at frontrangephotosociety.com] On Behalf Of Gregg
Lowrimore
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:31 AM
To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FRPS] One file, two exposures

 

Wes,

 

Even though these charts say Nikon D100, they'll work for any 1.5 crop
factor dSLR. And how these charts work is this:

 

1.	Compose your shot and set your lens focal point, say 12mm.
Wide-angle shot.
2.	Move to Aperture Priority or manual and choose f/22 (or f/16 if you
can get away with it. Some will argue to go the other way and select f/32,
if possible, but most consumer lenses do not have this small an aperture.)
3.	Find the row for your focal point in the charts below, then traverse
over that row until you come to your chosen f-stop at the column heading.
You'll get a number. That's the distance (in feet) to set your focus point
for optimal front to back focus.
4.	For example, 12mm at f/22 yields a 1.1 feet focus point. That means
I set my camera to focus at 1.1 feet and everything from 1.1ft/2 = 5.5inches
to infinite will be in focus. If you don't need that extreme of a distance,
then back off to f/11 and set your focus point at 2.1ft (that'll give you
2.1ft/2 about 12inches to infinite in focus. Make sense?

 

These are handy little charts that you can make at various sites around the
'net, or download little applications for your Palm Pilot, smartphone, or
laptop and calculate it on the fly. Try these out and let us know your
results.

 

greggl

 

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From googlecal at lowrimore.com  Thu Jul 24 09:37:54 2008
From: googlecal at lowrimore.com (Gregg)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:37:54 -0700
Subject: [FRPS] Canon EF-S 55-250mm Image Stabilizer Zoom Lens for $255 + $7
	s&h
Message-ID: <0016e64355e40fe9270452c52a7b@google.com>

Don't know how good this lens is, but thought I'd pass the deal along
to the group.....

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From j88per at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 20:03:12 2008
From: j88per at gmail.com (Andrew Carlson)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:03:12 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Canon EF-S 55-250mm Image Stabilizer Zoom Lens for $255
	+ $7 s&h
In-Reply-To: <0016e64355e40fe9270452c52a7b@google.com>
References: <0016e64355e40fe9270452c52a7b@google.com>
Message-ID: <e06096240807241703j36074f8ah70030354174b7844@mail.gmail.com>

As I have been getting involved in Medium and Large formats - most of the
gear either comes with or doesn't even have zoom lens capability.  So my own
deductions have been that zoom lenses compromise sharpness for convenience,
the longer the range of zoom's the less sharp a lens will be.   I'm actually
starting to buy primes for my digital now after seeing how sharp even that
old RB was.

To that end, this lens isn't an 'L' lens so its build quality is pretty low,
focus would probably be slow, and a zoom range that long scares me!



On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gregg <googlecal at lowrimore.com> wrote:

> Don't know how good this lens is, but thought I'd pass the deal along to
> the group.....
>
>
>
> Sent to you by Gregg via Google Reader:
>
>
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> via dealmac - 20 most recent deals. <http://dealmac.com> by dealmac.com on
> 7/24/08
>
> [image: Canon EF-S 55-250mm Image Stabilizer Zoom Lens for $255 + $7 s&h]JR.com offers the Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS Telephoto Zoom Lens, model
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From sparker at parkerpress.com  Fri Jul 25 13:51:08 2008
From: sparker at parkerpress.com (Steve Parker)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:51:08 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Negative scanner that can handle Kodak Safety Film?
Message-ID: <EEE99102-4530-4A2D-8AE6-B0EAB4688783@parkerpress.com>

All,

I just found out my negative scanner can't handle "Kodak Safety Film".  
It's film that doesn't have the traditional holes down both sides of  
the negative, but one hole per image, and the negative extends all the  
way to the other side of the strip.

I have a Nikon Coolscan 5000 that I thought would be able to handle  
these, but apparently not.

Any ideas/suggestions (or loans) you can suggest. I have about 100  
images on this type of film that I'd like to scan when I get back into  
town.

Thanks,

Steve

-- 
Steve Parker
sparker at parkerpress.com
Home of The ParkerPress : http://www.parkerpress.com/


From tshphoto at msn.com  Fri Jul 25 14:12:48 2008
From: tshphoto at msn.com (Tim Hardy)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:12:48 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Negative scanner that can handle Kodak Safety Film?
References: <EEE99102-4530-4A2D-8AE6-B0EAB4688783@parkerpress.com>
Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV922558C2D812DE234F520C6860@phx.gbl>

You need to scan those on a flatbed scanner with a film tray.

Epson has these, I have an Agfa myself that has this film bed. I can scan any size, shape film up to 11x17

Tim Hardy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Parker<mailto:sparker at parkerpress.com> 
  To: Front Range Photo Society Mailing List<mailto:frps at frontrangephotosociety.com> 
  Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:51 AM
  Subject: [FRPS] Negative scanner that can handle Kodak Safety Film?


  All,

  I just found out my negative scanner can't handle "Kodak Safety Film".  
  It's film that doesn't have the traditional holes down both sides of  
  the negative, but one hole per image, and the negative extends all the  
  way to the other side of the strip.

  I have a Nikon Coolscan 5000 that I thought would be able to handle  
  these, but apparently not.

  Any ideas/suggestions (or loans) you can suggest. I have about 100  
  images on this type of film that I'd like to scan when I get back into  
  town.

  Thanks,

  Steve

  -- 
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  sparker at parkerpress.com<mailto:sparker at parkerpress.com>
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From googlecal at lowrimore.com  Fri Jul 25 14:37:36 2008
From: googlecal at lowrimore.com (Gregg)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:37:36 -0700
Subject: [FRPS] Adobe Photoshop Lightroom for Windows or Mac for $285 + free
	shipping
Message-ID: <000e0cd25412b045ed0452dd7781@google.com>

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Lightroom for Windows or Mac, model no. 19250126, for $284.99 with free
shipping. That's tied for the lowest total price we could find for this
title. Lightroom features support for more than 150 camera raw formats,
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From knoche at wdk.com  Fri Jul 25 14:50:14 2008
From: knoche at wdk.com (William D. Knoche)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:50:14 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Negative scanner that can handle Kodak Safety Film?
In-Reply-To: <EEE99102-4530-4A2D-8AE6-B0EAB4688783@parkerpress.com>
References: <EEE99102-4530-4A2D-8AE6-B0EAB4688783@parkerpress.com>
Message-ID: <488A2066.2070803@wdk.com>

I believe you can use the film strip carrier.
I will have to try it out on mine to see how it might work.
If not you are welcome to come by and use one of my flatbed scanners 
that can do transparencies.


btw, the "Kodak Safety Film" actually refers to various film base as 
they replaced the highly flammable material (nitrocellulose) they used 
previously.
Are you referring to 127 format film? Something else?
Where did this come from? Disposable camera, instamtic, etc?

--bill

Steve Parker wrote:
> All,
>
> I just found out my negative scanner can't handle "Kodak Safety Film". 
> It's film that doesn't have the traditional holes down both sides of 
> the negative, but one hole per image, and the negative extends all the 
> way to the other side of the strip.
>
> I have a Nikon Coolscan 5000 that I thought would be able to handle 
> these, but apparently not.
>
> Any ideas/suggestions (or loans) you can suggest. I have about 100 
> images on this type of film that I'd like to scan when I get back into 
> town.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>

From sparker at parkerpress.com  Fri Jul 25 15:00:20 2008
From: sparker at parkerpress.com (Steve Parker)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:00:20 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Negative scanner that can handle Kodak Safety Film?
In-Reply-To: <488A2066.2070803@wdk.com>
References: <EEE99102-4530-4A2D-8AE6-B0EAB4688783@parkerpress.com>
	<488A2066.2070803@wdk.com>
Message-ID: <1F2EA8E9-1A92-4A8D-A6A0-BF28C03FE8E1@parkerpress.com>

Bill,

I'm learning something new every day. My mother had a bunch of old  
pictures "transferred to film" and the business that did this in ~1988  
gave her these strips. The film is Black and White, and almost exactly  
the same width as 35mm, but with the "single hole-per-frame" feed on  
the "bottom" of the negative. I have no idea what they used or what  
"size" it might be. There's no other identifying marks on the strips  
I've looked at other than "Kodak Safety Film" and frame numbers.

I should be back in town in a week (on vacation at Lake Tahoe this  
week, working in San Jose next week). I'll send you an email when I  
get back with more than a day or two to spare.

Steve

PS: Thanks for the offer on the scanners... I may take you up on it.

-- 
Steve Parker
sparker at parkerpress.com
Home of The ParkerPress : http://www.parkerpress.com/

On Jul 25, 2008, at 12:50 PM, William D. Knoche wrote:

> I believe you can use the film strip carrier.
> I will have to try it out on mine to see how it might work.
> If not you are welcome to come by and use one of my flatbed scanners  
> that can do transparencies.
>
>
> btw, the "Kodak Safety Film" actually refers to various film base as  
> they replaced the highly flammable material (nitrocellulose) they  
> used previously.
> Are you referring to 127 format film? Something else?
> Where did this come from? Disposable camera, instamtic, etc?
>
> --bill
>
> Steve Parker wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> I just found out my negative scanner can't handle "Kodak Safety  
>> Film". It's film that doesn't have the traditional holes down both  
>> sides of the negative, but one hole per image, and the negative  
>> extends all the way to the other side of the strip.
>>
>> I have a Nikon Coolscan 5000 that I thought would be able to handle  
>> these, but apparently not.
>>
>> Any ideas/suggestions (or loans) you can suggest. I have about 100  
>> images on this type of film that I'd like to scan when I get back  
>> into town.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> FRPS at frontrangephotosociety.com
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From knoche at wdk.com  Fri Jul 25 17:15:52 2008
From: knoche at wdk.com (William D. Knoche)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:15:52 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Negative scanner that can handle Kodak Safety Film?
In-Reply-To: <1F2EA8E9-1A92-4A8D-A6A0-BF28C03FE8E1@parkerpress.com>
References: <EEE99102-4530-4A2D-8AE6-B0EAB4688783@parkerpress.com>	<488A2066.2070803@wdk.com>
	<1F2EA8E9-1A92-4A8D-A6A0-BF28C03FE8E1@parkerpress.com>
Message-ID: <488A4288.1040207@wdk.com>

Ah.
This is probably Kodapak 126 format film (not to be confused with 126 
roll film). That is it is 35mm with a single perforation on one edge 
spaced at one per frame and included a paper backing packaged in a 
plastic cassette. It was used in consumer cameras (Instamatic). Image 
size was ~26.5mm square.
There should have been pre-exposed frame numbers and film type but the 
cartridges included a mechanical notch for speed designation so it may 
not have a film type designation.

--bill


Steve Parker wrote:
> Bill,
>
> I'm learning something new every day. My mother had a bunch of old 
> pictures "transferred to film" and the business that did this in ~1988 
> gave her these strips. The film is Black and White, and almost exactly 
> the same width as 35mm, but with the "single hole-per-frame" feed on 
> the "bottom" of the negative. I have no idea what they used or what 
> "size" it might be. There's no other identifying marks on the strips 
> I've looked at other than "Kodak Safety Film" and frame numbers.
>
> I should be back in town in a week (on vacation at Lake Tahoe this 
> week, working in San Jose next week). I'll send you an email when I 
> get back with more than a day or two to spare.
>
> Steve
>
> PS: Thanks for the offer on the scanners... I may take you up on it.
>

From gregg at lowrimore.com  Fri Jul 25 19:24:57 2008
From: gregg at lowrimore.com (Gregg Lowrimore)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:24:57 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Groove Hawgs at Red Rocks tomorrow (Sat) night
Message-ID: <CF62C6E3-D072-4FEB-A52B-12C04FF58408@lowrimore.com>

I have one extra ticket to the Groove Hawgs (Louis and Floorwax from  
103.5 The Fox) who are opening for Carlos Mencia at Red Rocks. I have  
a friend that plays blues guitar and is currently playing with the  
Groove Hawgs this summer and he's gotten me a couple of tickets. He's  
checking into getting me a "press pass" so I can wonder around in  
front of the stage taking photos of the band, but that's still up in  
the air. I may just end up heading down to Red Rocks around 3pm for  
their setup and sound check and shoot some photos then, and watch the  
concert casually afterwards, but I'm still waiting for word back on  
the press pass.

In any case, would anyone in the group like to join me? With or  
without the camera. Please let me know if you're interested in this  
short notice. I'll let you know more when I find out more too.

My friend's web site: <www.stevecrenshaw.net> Check it out.

greggl

From gregg at lowrimore.com  Thu Jul 31 10:20:20 2008
From: gregg at lowrimore.com (Gregg Lowrimore)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:20:20 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Fwd: [z-ProPhoto] MS creates orphan works
References: <620719.63489.qm@web110011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0967819C-4F06-4B0F-9E6C-BE0454D43F0E@lowrimore.com>

Interesting if true.

Sent from my iphone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Nancy Catherine Walker <ncphotographyct at yahoo.com>
> Date: July 30, 2008 9:20:45 PM MDT
> To: z-prophoto group <z-ProPhoto at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [z-ProPhoto] MS creates orphan works
> Reply-To: z-ProPhoto at yahoogroups.com
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> MS is currently running a contest where people use their search  
> engine to find images on the internet to submit. The search engine  
> strips all EXIF data from the images and does not provide a link to  
> the original source, thus creating "orphan" images with no traceable  
> way to determine copyright.
>
> http://www.iconicbritain.co.uk/
>
> Most reports state that you should try different combinations of  
> your name and agencies to see how many of your images are available  
> for this contest, since not all the images come up under the same  
> name.
>
> Nancy Catherine Walker
> www.ncphoto.net
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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From sparker at parkerpress.com  Thu Jul 31 11:56:43 2008
From: sparker at parkerpress.com (Steve Parker)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:56:43 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Purves Lab / See For Yourself
Message-ID: <E6A039CE-970D-4B79-977B-3F33FD730A5D@parkerpress.com>

Some interesting "perception" tests in here about light, contrast and  
color perceptions.

http://www.purveslab.net/seeforyourself/

I originally found this link in a posting called "Calibrate your eyes"  
on the "PhotoShopSupport" blog:

http://www.photoshopsupport.com/photoshop-blog/08/08/calibrate-your-eyes.html

SRP
-- 
Steve Parker
sparker at parkerpress.com
Home of The ParkerPress : http://www.parkerpress.com/


From sparker at parkerpress.com  Thu Jul 31 16:47:25 2008
From: sparker at parkerpress.com (Steve Parker)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:47:25 -0600
Subject: [FRPS] Leaf AFi 10
Message-ID: <23F12780-9FC8-497F-BBFD-7A21AA39B3D9@parkerpress.com>

Ummmmm, wow.... I wonder what this will end up costing??? Not to  
mention the terabyte farm you'd better have in your lab!

    http://www.leaf-photography.com/afi10

SRP

-- 
Steve Parker
sparker at parkerpress.com
Home of The ParkerPress : http://www.parkerpress.com/