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Well, as they say, crap!<br>
<br>
Hmm, might be worth contacting them, this is obviously the US branch
and all. Anyone want to take a crack at it? It's the weekend so they'd
likely not answer till Monday, but I'm too busy this weekend (or at
least, away from my PC) to do so.<br>
<br>
I presume they don't just bin them and employees take them home, but
still...that's...sad. I'll email them on Monday if no one else has by
then. Thanks for the tipoff, I didn't check all the photos, hehe.<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
Captain Commando wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">RE: Sega - <br>
<br>
I'm not sure I like the looks of that post-it down there that says
'keep':<br>
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This assumes they are throwing stuff out as well.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Andrew
Armstrong <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:andrew@aarmstrong.org">andrew@aarmstrong.org</a>></span>
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Brilliant! Thanks a lot Chris, outstanding work. I hope he just says
"IGDA" if he ever mentions the SIG again though, hehehe :)<br>
<br>
Looks like a lucky break, but who knows what we can hope to achieve in
the future. I reported on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.igda.org/preservation/archives/2008/08/the_sega_game_a.html"
target="_blank">Sega's
archive pictures today</a>, so there are obviously other publishers
with much wider collections (and not just of the physical games, as
Wing Commander's case shows!). Just needs some benevolence, and less
lawyers.<br>
<br>
I hope Joe joins up, and thanks again Chris,<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
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<div class="Wj3C7c">Per your suggestion Andrew, I contacted Joe
Garrity of the
Origin Museum and passed along a few of my thoughts. Here is his
response:
<div><br>
</div>
<div>///</div>
<div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">I'll be happy to tell the IDGA guys the
story, but I'm not sure how much good it'll do. Our good fortune was
not much more than sending an email, and a boatload of luck. We just
happened to catch Paul Barnett at a generous moment in his tenure. He
found what we did interesting, and appreciated our passion. Our
'technique' probably won't help the GP guys, but they are welcome to
use our success as 'proof-of-concept' to other publishers. Due to our
lucky circumstances, I think that other publishers might be more
interested in cooperating if they think, "Hmmm--if EA thinks this was a
good idea..." (just as long as the other publishers are led to believe
that it was EA's idea in the first place--and as long as I'm involved
somehow!) ;)</div>
<div style="margin: 0px;"><br>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">
<div style="margin: 0px;">Like I said, we haven't developed a
magic
formula, or anythig. We simply asked, and the planets were in
alignment. But acquiring the data was the easy part--distribution will
be more of an issue. The way I see it, we got the data on the good
graces of Paul Barnett. I'm sure that he told the EA suits in LA, but
their legal department may only catch wind of it later.</div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">"you gave the fans WHAT?!"</div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">We were told that no code should be
released, and that everything else shouldd go thru them first. But
Paul gave us a wink, and said he wants to see this stufff out--This
leaves us at an empass. I want to put some of the more juicy stuff out
on the net, but I also want to respect EA's IP as well--it's their
stuff after all. There's also potential legal entanglements. I'd hate
to give the Museum a bad reputation among EA execs--everything we've
worked for would be shot to pieces. Dee the dilemma?</div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">I think the best strategy is to
advertise--and then wait. I've seen EA do some incredibly nice things
for the fans if they are treated with respect. I've also seen them
crush individuals who have good intentions, but get a little
snotty/cocky. I always hated those petitions that make demands of the
publisher, based solely on some kid's envy--"It's an old game and
you've already made your money--why don't you just give us the scource
code?!"</div>
<div>///</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'll let Joe know about the mailing list - there's a good
chance
he might even want to join up here. I'll be speaking to him next week,
so hopefully I'll get some more details then.</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>- Chris<br>
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<div style="margin: 0px;">Sure, all those suggestions are very
good
- you don't want to take the<span> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">initiative and do any of them? :)
(For
the archive repository, if the<span> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">data is all digital at the very least
I
am sure the Internet Archive can<span> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">have the majority of it in one form
or
another).</div>
<div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">I am still in the process (offline)
of
thinking how to revamp the wiki<span> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">information, and these projects
should be
listed there along with other<span> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">good fansites/source of info. I can't
disseminate information on the<span> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">wiki, it's just a poor location for
it
since everything is manual, but I<span> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">hope to get some form of DB-run site
(perhaps the DGC one) which can<span> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">work to do the metadata and
linking/searching to media side, especially<span> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">Archive.org things which are hopeless
to
search through :)</div>
<div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">Andrew</div>
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