<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
<style>
<!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;}
@page Section1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.Section1
{page:Section1;}
-->
</style>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple>
<div class=Section1>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My comments:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is relatively easy (if you have the money) to buy everything
you see and have a warehouse full of assorted games and related artifacts. It’s
also not that interesting to most people.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>So for example, right now I don’t collect NES games. I
could go to a bunch of flea markets and stores and buy every NES title I can
find, and maybe have 500 of them in a week. Is that a collection? Yes, in some
sense of the word, but it’s a pretty poor one. In my mind it’s more
akin to a pile of junk.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Most collectors that I have encountered focus on a particular
niche and try to collect everything related to that niche. The fun and excitement
in collecting comes from searching for and then ultimately finding that rare
item that adds to or completes some particular area of their collection. That’s
also what gets the press and general interest btw. And speaking of Joe Santulli
and his video, did you notice that he pointed out the 3 rarest and most
expensive items, and then said that those were the 3 that were the most
meaningful to him personally? I doubt it was because they were the most
expensive, but rather because he had to go to some considerable trouble to
acquire them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>(BTW, most collectors that I know (myself included) treasure their
rare titles but also titles that hold sentimental value for them for other
reasons. For example, my copy of Seastalker folio edition for IBM that my
father bought for me when it first came out, and I managed to hang onto it through
several moves, etc. before I even started collecting officially.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have other comments about physical preservation of games and
shrinkwrap vs. non-shrinkwrap but I will save those for another time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
game_preservation-bounces@igda.org [mailto:game_preservation-bounces@igda.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Captain Commando<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> IGDA Game Preservation SIG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [game_preservation] MSN interviews Joe Santulli<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hey Andrew,<br>
<br>
I have done a little dabbling into what might go into a white paper myself on
the side at work. I'm not sure exactly how we're going to go about organizing
this thing myself. I've got some good examples and I think some good arguments
and some that are just deadpan plain serious (who's to say 'because they're fun
and we like to share what we enjoy with other people' isn't a valid reason?).<br>
<br>
I'm going to see if I can't contact Joe about this. Some of the things I'd like
to ask is about what he thinks about preservation and what we might learn from
looking at collectors - if warehouses and shoeboxes full of old cartridges is
really even a viable model. Just how durable is this stuff in that condition? <br>
<br>
I suppose the 'why' of collecting would have to be in there as well, but I
think it's just something that snowballs from something you like, coupled with
opportunity for building the collection with minimal expenditure (that's sort
of how mine developed out of a simple love of the game). Everybody's got a
hobby, and if you think about it if you sink a few dozen dollars here and a few
there each month and are serious about checking garage sales, flea markets, and
goodwill's regularly, then you'd begin to have a pretty serious collection.
It's really no different than sinking a couple hundred dollars each month on
souping up your car or spending a few hours reading books. I guess 'hobby' is
just whatever occupies the mind!<br>
<br>
-Devin<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Andrew Armstrong <<a
href="mailto:andrew@aarmstrong.org">andrew@aarmstrong.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>I'll need to get a list of questions together now, won't I?
Typical ^_^<br>
<br>
The problem is, I'm not adept at knowing what the finer points of collecting is
to start with (I'm not a collector in the slightest), and the websites on the
web I've browsed a bit usually say the <i>how</i> and <i>what</i> to collect,
but not the <i>why</i>, which would be much more interesting to record. I'll
get around to it, but I should start poking people about the whitepaper instead
:) - I'll try and get something together soon to post around, at the very least
a good list of websites is always nice.<br>
<br>
Good idea, thanks for reminding me we should be looking within! First for me
will be a little whitepaper work however, but I'll get it added to the monthly
roundup to remind myself for September.<br>
<span style='color:#888888'><br>
Andrew</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><br>
<br>
Stuart Feldhamer wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>That video is pretty cool
(although those Keno brothers, whoever they are, seem like losers).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I am impressed with that guy's
collection to say the least. However, I want to point out that there are
several members of the software collectors' mailing list (most of whom if not
all primarily collect games) on the list for this SIG. So if you're looking for
information on collecting, look within. : )</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Stuart</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
game_preservation mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:game_preservation@igda.org">game_preservation@igda.org</a><br>
<a href="http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/game_preservation"
target="_blank">http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/game_preservation</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><br>
<br clear=all>
<br>
-- <br>
The sleep of Reason produces monsters.<br>
<br>
"Until next time..."<br>
Captain Commando<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>