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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t get it. I just searched and found patches for all of the
games that you listed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> game_preservation-bounces@igda.org
[mailto:game_preservation-bounces@igda.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Captain
Commando<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> IGDA Game Preservation SIG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [game_preservation] Older versions of Programs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Well, this is a start. It
doesn't contain a WIDE range of games, mostly popular ones (but also some odd
ones like Microprose's Magic the Gathering). Missing a few like Ultima,
Freespace, and X-Wing vs Tie Fighter that I've had to google for. In addition,
it only includes the most recent patches. The patch collection I am talking
about would have as many patch versions as possible (hopefully with information
on what got patched with each version). If you want to preserve PC games, you
really need to keep patches in mind. I wouldn't be able to give you a lot of
reasons for why older patches would be incredibly important (unless newer
patches had certain bugs that weren't manifest in older patches on some
hardware), but again, you never know what's going to be important thirty years
from now.<br>
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-Devin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Andrew Armstrong <<a
href="mailto:andrew@aarmstrong.org">andrew@aarmstrong.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Ooh, awesome. I honestly have never seen that before,
despite sometimes searching for patches for a fair while. Files seem to be
hosted on <a href="http://dlh.net/" target="_blank">http://dlh.net/</a> ,
interesting.<br>
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The site only has 383 games with patch pages, I wonder how many patches they
have total, hard to see from the A-Z listings (although it's great to see a
news archive going back to 1995, wow!)<br>
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Anyone got any more of these sites, please post them :)<br>
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Andrew<br>
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Stuart Feldhamer wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>There is such an archive:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.patches-scrolls.de/" target="_blank">http://www.patches-scrolls.de/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Stuart</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:game_preservation-bounces@igda.org" target="_blank">game_preservation-bounces@igda.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:game_preservation-bounces@igda.org" target="_blank">mailto:game_preservation-bounces@igda.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Captain Commando<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 12, 2008 5:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> IGDA Game Preservation SIG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [game_preservation] Older versions of Programs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I think OldVersion.com was listed on the resource list awhile back, but I'm
going to pull it up again. This site archives old versions of computer software
and utilities like Flash and Winamp. Similarly, I think it would be useful to
have an archive of game patches. It's a bit difficult to locate patches for
some of my older games, but it can also be useful and historically significant
to run older patches of computer games.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.oldversion.com/" target="_blank">http://www.oldversion.com/</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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-Devin Monnens<br>
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-- <br>
The sleep of Reason produces monsters.<br>
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"Until next time..."<br>
Captain Commando<o:p></o:p></p>
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