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Urg, teach me not to read. Byte-Back, here, have a URL:
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Andrew<br>
<br>
Stuart Feldhamer wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Back-Bytes
– that’s what you said before, isn’t it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:game_preservation-bounces@igda.org">game_preservation-bounces@igda.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:game_preservation-bounces@igda.org">mailto:game_preservation-bounces@igda.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew
Armstrong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 16, 2009 2:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> IGDA Game Preservation SIG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [game_preservation] Project Discussion:
Collectors
Information<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry, it was Back-Bytes. ;)<br>
<br>
The information should be aimed at helping historians and
preservationists. The
goal is to facilitate the necessary flow of information if historians
can't
find it themselves - collectors are knowledgeable historians in their
own
domains. Knowing what they do, how they do it, and how to contact
them/get
their help is a good idea.<br>
<br>
At least that'd be my aim for it. There is no "one stop shop" for
communities of collectors, a news driven website, and of course, there
is
absolutely no group I know of dedicated to facilitating communication
between
them (at least in an information capacity). These people are some of
the most
dedicated people to preserving things (even if only for their own
collections
sometimes), so well worth noting them somewhere, if we don't directly
do
anything right now :)<br>
<br>
Thanks Stuart!<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
Stuart Feldhamer wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">Andrew,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">I
might be willing to help out with this as I am a collector
and I also know several other collectors. However, I think it’s
important to
get some of those concerns answered first so that we know what the
goals are.
Specifically:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">-
Who is the information aimed at?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">-
What information should it be?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">The
answer to the first question should drive the second
question. I guess the third question that underlies the other two is:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">-
What is the goal of gathering this information?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">Any
thoughts on these questions from the group?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">Stuart</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">PS
– Where is Back-Bytes? I’ve never heard of it, and a
Google search didn’t turn up anything.</span><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:game_preservation-bounces@igda.org">game_preservation-bounces@igda.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:game_preservation-bounces@igda.org">mailto:game_preservation-bounces@igda.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Armstrong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 02, 2009 8:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> IGDA Game Preservation SIG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [game_preservation] Project Discussion:
Collectors
Information</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">First project bump. I want to see if any new
members have
any ideas or thoughts on this topic, please read below to see my
original post.<br>
<br>
I am going to do field research into this when I visit Back-Bytes, a
retro
gaming event in March. While I'm forming my own questions, and will be
asking
several people about the hobby, and about how it is relevant to
historians
etc., <b>I'd welcome any input for questions or areas that I should
ask about</b>,
I am not a collector and have really next to nothing but "common
knowledge" of what they do :)<br>
<br>
Hopefully this will, at the very least, gain some links to communities,
forums,
websites, magazines and relevant media or coverage of it all.<br>
<br>
I'll also be reporting on the event for the SIG with photos and notes
;) there
should be some interesting stuff from Ocean and Jon Hare, among others,
and
I'll actually be trying some of the games systems I've never touched
before I
bet, as well as hopefully grabbing one of the computer museums I've got
noted
on our contributions page for a chat too. I'll try and get this up
before GDC,
with possible varying degrees of success. :)<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
Andrew Armstrong wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is coming on from our previous discussion
over spring cleaning
the SIG.<br>
<br>
<b>Collectors Information</b><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.igda.org/wiki/Game_Preservation_SIG/Collectors">http://www.igda.org/wiki/Game_Preservation_SIG/Collectors</a><br>
Status: <i>On Hold</i><br>
Currently lead by: <i>No one. </i><br>
Short description: <i>A set of resource pages on the area of videogame
collectors. When complete, will hold information on the reasons behind
it, the
communities that are based on it, and who gets involved in the work.
This will
be aimed at people interested in the area for whatever reason (such as
tracking
information not held in public archives or online) rather then for
collectors
themselves.</i><br>
<br>
Concerns raised previously:<br>
- What information should it be<br>
- Who should be contacted to get the information<br>
- Who is the information aimed at<br>
<br>
This needs someone to run it. Someone who basically can collect the
information
and update the wiki with it. There are plenty of reasons I can't do it
very
well, the main one being is I am not a collector and barely venture
into the
area much. I am willing to do some of the legwork but a collector who
knows
where to find information, who to contact and interview, what
information would
be relevant to an archivist, historian or developer, and so on is
required.<br>
<br>
If you want to take lead on this, it shouldn't be much work - I'm
looking for
more depth then Wikipedia, but less then a book on the subject. Some
"rough guide to videogame collectors and their hobby" would suffice.<br>
<br>
I know some information was already raised, and if I am left with doing
this
I'll follow some of it up and possibly get someone not on the SIG list
to do
this project partially (at least providing the information to me).<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
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