spaces and newlines before list markers (was: evolving the spec)

John Gruber gruber at
Tue Mar 18 01:46:55 EDT 2008

On Mar 2, 2008, at 7:49 PM, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:

> This is actually my second biggest complaint with Markdown. As I

> understand, John was originally going to allow numbered lists to

> start at numbers other than 1, but then discovered that the HTML4

> WG labelled the `start` attribute of lists deprecated, so he

> removed this feature.


> I find the WG’s decision utterly baffling and wrong-headed. *How

> on Earth* is that information presentational?!


> So while I don’t disagree with the basic desire to output valid

> HTML, I think John’s decision in this one case was mistaken. IMO,

> in this one case Markdown should do what is sensible, validation

> be damned.

Agreed. This will work correctly in the next version. Plus, the
"start" attribute is in HTML5 for <ol>. Back when I was working on
Markdown 1.0, I was completely under the spell of the W3C's "strict"


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