From sonjaaa at gmail.com  Thu Jul 16 03:37:53 2009
From: sonjaaa at gmail.com (Sonja Elen Kisa)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:37:53 -0400
Subject: Table without <th>?
Message-ID: <9a7e9ada0907160037n13541aadjbaf965b63b813f60@mail.gmail.com>

Is it possible to have a simple table but without using <th> and the
long ----- ?

Sonja

From ddascalescu at gmail.com  Thu Jul 16 05:35:53 2009
From: ddascalescu at gmail.com (Dan Dascalescu)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:35:53 -0700
Subject: Table without <th>?
In-Reply-To: <9a7e9ada0907160037n13541aadjbaf965b63b813f60@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9a7e9ada0907160037n13541aadjbaf965b63b813f60@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3561cc6d0907160235j77e7c25u96b27aafe29d7435@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 00:37, Sonja Elen Kisa<sonjaaa at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to have a simple table but without using <th> and the
> long ----- ?

|| a | b |
| c | d |

If I understood the question correctly, the code above does the trick.
I'm using MultiMarkdown, though. You can test that live on my wiki's
sandbox,
http://wiki.dandascalescu.com/sandbox.edit

Hope that helps,
Dan

From yiyu.jgl at gmail.com  Thu Jul 16 14:05:05 2009
From: yiyu.jgl at gmail.com (yy)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:05:05 +0200
Subject: md2html.awk and a question
Message-ID: <a81fe9be0907161105s3cd799a8hf5db46207ad48576@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I have just subscribed to this list. I will introduce myself: For some
time, I have kept a markdown implementation in awk for personal use,
different from other implementations. Now, I'm in the process of
rewriting it and I'm trying to do it as compatible as possible.

There are many questions I have, I know some test suites and am trying
to pass those tests. When I don't know how to handle a corner case I
use to check with Dingus. I would really appreciate if somebody could
explain me the output of this text:

        this paragraph is outside of list blocks

        * #this is not a h1
        * ##this is not a h2
        * ###and this is not a h3
        * but the next one is

          #an h1!
          inside a list item, ok, but...

        * ###wtf is this?

        bad, bad, bad...

        - btw, this an h1, not a list item
        ===================

        - but indenting...
          ============

        that's better

I would also like to know what is the best source for markdown syntax,
any suggestion is welcomed. For example, I see some talk about tables
(older versions of md2html.awk supported tables, and I hope to add
them again). I'm slowly digging in the archives, but a reference would
save me some time. Thanks in advance.

If you are interested, you can have a look at the development process
of md2html.awk and download the last version at
http://www.anarchyinthetubes.com/src/md2html.awk/


-- 
- yiyus || JGL . 4l77.com

From seumas at idirect.ca  Thu Jul 16 21:09:23 2009
From: seumas at idirect.ca (Seumas Mac Uilleachan)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:09:23 -0400
Subject: md2html.awk and a question
In-Reply-To: <a81fe9be0907161105s3cd799a8hf5db46207ad48576@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a81fe9be0907161105s3cd799a8hf5db46207ad48576@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A5FCF43.4080400@idirect.ca>

Hi, if I read your example right, the bullet markup should take priority 
over anything else in that line. So the #h1 ##h2 ###h3 etc should not be 
headers since they are part of a bulleted list. Also the # is not the 
first character of the line.

As for the indented #an h1, should that be a header? I would think not 
myself. If it's indented it's intended to be something else to my thinking.

As for the

- btw, this an h1, not a list item
===================

that is so ambiguous it could be either. I suppose the ==== and ---- headers, since they span multiple lines, probably take priority over everything. 

Then again, it may depend on your markdown version (perl, php, python, haskell, etc).



yy wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have just subscribed to this list. I will introduce myself: For some
> time, I have kept a markdown implementation in awk for personal use,
> different from other implementations. Now, I'm in the process of
> rewriting it and I'm trying to do it as compatible as possible.
>
> There are many questions I have, I know some test suites and am trying
> to pass those tests. When I don't know how to handle a corner case I
> use to check with Dingus. I would really appreciate if somebody could
> explain me the output of this text:
>
>         this paragraph is outside of list blocks
>
>         * #this is not a h1
>         * ##this is not a h2
>         * ###and this is not a h3
>         * but the next one is
>
>           #an h1!
>           inside a list item, ok, but...
>
>         * ###wtf is this?
>
>         bad, bad, bad...
>
>         - btw, this an h1, not a list item
>         ===================
>
>         - but indenting...
>           ============
>
>         that's better
>
> I would also like to know what is the best source for markdown syntax,
> any suggestion is welcomed. For example, I see some talk about tables
> (older versions of md2html.awk supported tables, and I hope to add
> them again). I'm slowly digging in the archives, but a reference would
> save me some time. Thanks in advance.
>
> If you are interested, you can have a look at the development process
> of md2html.awk and download the last version at
> http://www.anarchyinthetubes.com/src/md2html.awk/
>
>
>   


From yiyu.jgl at gmail.com  Fri Jul 17 03:43:27 2009
From: yiyu.jgl at gmail.com (yy)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:43:27 +0200
Subject: md2html.awk and a question
In-Reply-To: <4A5FCF43.4080400@idirect.ca>
References: <a81fe9be0907161105s3cd799a8hf5db46207ad48576@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A5FCF43.4080400@idirect.ca>
Message-ID: <a81fe9be0907170043v2cb5fa5dt5aa90635674f0c0d@mail.gmail.com>

2009/7/17 Seumas Mac Uilleachan <seumas at idirect.ca>:
> Hi, if I read your example right, the bullet markup should take priority
> over anything else in that line. So the #h1 ##h2 ###h3 etc should not be
> headers since they are part of a bulleted list. Also the # is not the first
> character of the line.
>

Dingus does not consider it a header if it is at the begining of the
list, but it does it if it is not the first paragraph. However, for
some reason, it considers the line "* ###wtf is this?" a header.

> As for the indented #an h1, should that be a header? I would think not
> myself. If it's indented it's intended to be something else to my thinking.
>

I like to think that quote blocks and list items can contain
everything as long as it is preceeded by the right indentation.

> As for the
>
> - btw, this an h1, not a list item
> ===================
>
> that is so ambiguous it could be either. I suppose the ==== and ----
> headers, since they span multiple lines, probably take priority over
> everything.

In Dingus, the indentation of the equal signs line makes a difference.
I think this is the right behaviour, but I don't see how it could be
applied to setex-style headers.

> Then again, it may depend on your markdown version (perl, php, python,
> haskell, etc).
>

I know it depends on the version. I am writing my own implementation
in awk and would like to be as compatible as possible with existing
documents. I think what I will do is to not look for headers at the
beginning of list items, since some files I have found contain lists
with irc channels (so, starting with #) that were becoming unwanted
h1's. It would not be a problem at all to check for different
conditions, but they are not evident to me and I'm not sure it is
worth the trouble.

Thanks for your reply,


-- 
- yiyus || JGL . 4l77.com

From michel.fortin at michelf.com  Fri Jul 17 22:08:11 2009
From: michel.fortin at michelf.com (Michel Fortin)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:08:11 -0400
Subject: md2html.awk and a question
In-Reply-To: <a81fe9be0907161105s3cd799a8hf5db46207ad48576@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a81fe9be0907161105s3cd799a8hf5db46207ad48576@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <563F636D-A2EB-45EF-97B5-E32A7E06ABEB@michelf.com>

Le 2009-07-16 ? 14:05, yy a ?crit :

> There are many questions I have, I know some test suites and am trying
> to pass those tests. When I don't know how to handle a corner case I
> use to check with Dingus. I would really appreciate if somebody could
> explain me the output of this text:
>
>        this paragraph is outside of list blocks
>
>        * #this is not a h1
>        * ##this is not a h2
>        * ###and this is not a h3
>        * but the next one is
>
>          #an h1!
>          inside a list item, ok, but...
>
>        * ###wtf is this?
>
>        bad, bad, bad...

The algorithm in Markdown.pl resumes to this:

1. The content of a list item which contains a blank line is treated
    as block-level content.

2. The content of a list item preceded by a blank line, when it's not
    the first item of a list, is teated as block level content.

3. The content of a list item followed by a blank line, when it's not
    the last item of a list, is teated as block level content.

4. Otherwise, the content is parsed for sublists and the rest is
    span-level content.


>        - btw, this an h1, not a list item
>        ===================
>
>        - but indenting...
>          ============
>
>        that's better

The algorithm in Markdown.pl resumes to this:

1. Any non-blank line followed by a non-indented line of three or more  
of
    consecutive `=` is treated as a h1 header. Inside a h1 header only
    span-level content is allowed. Oh, and Makrdown.pl searches for  
headers
    before checking for lists, so it won't see a list here.


I'm not claiming any of this makes any sense. Just how Markdown.pl  
(and PHP Markdown) works.


-- 
Michel Fortin
michel.fortin at michelf.com
http://michelf.com/




From orc at pell.chi.il.us  Sat Jul 18 23:06:24 2009
From: orc at pell.chi.il.us (david parsons)
Date: 19 Jul 2009 03:06:24 GMT
Subject: md2html.awk and a question
References: <a81fe9be0907161105s3cd799a8hf5db46207ad48576@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <h3u2jg$6bs@pell.portland.or.us>

In article <a81fe9be0907161105s3cd799a8hf5db46207ad48576 at mail.gmail.com>,
yy  <markdown-discuss at six.pairlist.net> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have just subscribed to this list. I will introduce myself: For some
>time, I have kept a markdown implementation in awk for personal use,
>different from other implementations. Now, I'm in the process of
>rewriting it and I'm trying to do it as compatible as possible.
>
>There are many questions I have, I know some test suites and am trying
>to pass those tests. When I don't know how to handle a corner case I
>use to check with Dingus. I would really appreciate if somebody could
>explain me the output of this text:
>
>        this paragraph is outside of list blocks
>
>        * #this is not a h1
>        * ##this is not a h2
>        * ###and this is not a h3
>        * but the next one is

    I think the problem here is that the reference implementation
    has trouble parsing unusual lists (I can get it to generate
    improper html by putting '>'s inside of a list:

	- > hi
	  >
	- > there


    ...) and you might be better off just having your implementation
    do list processing in the way you see best.


    -david parsons