ol start with a specific number?
Fletcher T. Penney
fletcher at fletcherpenney.net
Thu Apr 7 12:27:28 EDT 2011
I myself have thought about the benefits of establishing a standards
body/committee/whatever to define Markdown moving forward. One
comment --- if JG is not going to further maintain Markdown, such a
syntax may need to be renamed to make it clear that it not his
canonical version, but is something else.
I am not convinced that such a thing is *necessary*, but I would not
be opposed to its existence and would be interested in ensuring
MultiMarkdown is compliant should such a standards group be created.
F-
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Sherwood Botsford <sgbotsford at gmail.com> wrote:
> Markdown support is sufficiently fragmented that anyone who moves MD files
> from one system to another without checking may be justly said to be getting
> what he deserves.
>
> It's getting apparent that JG has little interest in further work on
> markdown. It is time to pretend that he has been abducted by aliens, and to
> carry on without him.
>
> I can see various things to happen from here:
>
> 1. BabelMark could become the repository for dialect differences. Couple
> BabelMark to a wiki.
>
> 2. The various MD implementors could get together and define what is core
> markdown. This is the feature set that everyone supports or is willing to
> support.
>
> Core features could be supported OotB, or Conf -- Out of the box, or by a
> configuration file, or by a tag or flag in the file.
>
> In particular the core group would define what behaviour should happen in
> the edge cases where it currently is not well defined.
>
> Thus constructs like the numbering issue earlier in this thread may have a
> config file entry of:
> LazyNumber = {traditional | initial } #traditional -- always starts with 1,
> initial starts with the first number provided.
>
> With time it's hoped that more and more of the features drift into core.
>
> Question: If we look at the dialects of MD that account for, say, 90% of
> the use, how many of the implementors of those are on this list?
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Sherwood of Sherwood's Forests
>
> Sherwood Botsford
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>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Aristotle Pagaltzis <pagaltzis at gmx.de>
> wrote:
>>
>> * Waylan Limberg <waylan at gmail.com> [2011-04-07 04:15]:
>> > I'm not opposed to adding this, but I noticed that no other
>> > implementation (of those on Babelmark) implements this by
>> > default (not counting Pandoc's extended mode). I haven't
>> > checked if other implementations offer this as an option.
>>
>> John’s reason was that the `start` attribute was deprecated
>> in HTML 4 Strict. He has since said at least once that this
>> reasoning was flawed and the decision a mistake.
>>
>> > My question is: should this be an option to turn on and off,
>> > and if so, should it be on or off by default?
>>
>> Bitter as it may be I think you would need to leave it off by
>> default. Interoperability is important.
>>
>> > Given that statement, it would seem that on by default and
>> > without an option to turn if off would be fine.
>>
>> I wish John would make another release to straighten out these
>> handful of known tiny niggles… since his is the implementation
>> that everyone else’s will follow.
>>
>> > But what is the reality in the real world? If I did that, would
>> > a bunch of documents suddenly start rendering incorrectly - or
>> > at least different that expected? I guess the real question is:
>> > has everyone been ignoring that piece of advice in the docs and
>> > if so, is this something we should care about as implementors?
>>
>> It’s not that simple. Consider what happens if some user writes
>> a document while previewing it with your implementation, which
>> advertises itself as Markdown, then pastes it into the textarea
>> in some web app, which also advertises Markdown support.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
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