[meteorite-list] "Wire Saw"

[M come Meteorite Meteorites]

no problem, next time I read a italian word not right I
inform all list


----- Original Message -----
Da : Michael L Blood <mlblood at cox.net>
A : Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] "Wire Saw"
Data : Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:36:11 -0700


>  Matteo,

>         Whether it is a language problem (pretty much

> Impossible in this particular instance) or just another

> Example of your ongoing, "my dad can beat up your

> Dad," the result is the same: the time and interest

> Of readers of the List were wasted.

>         Unfortunate.

>         Note to all List readers and readers of METEORITE

> TIMES:

>         I stand by my statements in the August addition of

> "Meteorite Market Trends" regarding the exceptionally

> High cost of wire saws. My research was based on the

> comments Of multiple well known & honest meteorite dealers

> , reported Prices paid by Bob Haag, Marlin Cills and

> others, people who Have looked into various sources for

> wire saws, and my own research Of companies offering wire

> saws both in the US and Europe.

>         Though Matteo claimed my comments were boldershash

> , His basis was a common saw using a medium thin blade

> which 1) produces a massive curf (loss of material where

> the blade removes Material, and, therefore, a massive loss

> of weight when making Ultra thin slices. 

> 2) he supplied the entire list with a photo of his "wire

> saw" which Was a common rock saw and referred in his

> "report" to using "blades." (not wires).

>         This was all an unfortunate waste of list time and

> interest And I apologies for falling for the bait, as I,

> like so many, would LOVE to have a wire saw if they could

> be had for under $1,000!

>         Again, I apologize for any part I played in this

> fiasco and Waste of reader's time.

>         Best wishes, Michael

> 

> on 8/6/07 3:24 AM, M come Meteorite Meteorites at

> info at mcomemeteorite.it wrote:

> 

> > ah ok this is another question and price....

> > 

> > matteo

> > 

> > 

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > Da : "Stefan Ralew" <stefan at meteoriten.com>

> > A : "M come Meteorite Meteorites"

> > <info at mcomemeteorite.it> Cc:

> > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Oggetto : Re:

> > [meteorite-list] wire saw comment Data : Mon, 6 Aug 2007

> > 12:18:11 +0200 

> >> Hello Matteo,

> >> 

> >> this is not a wire saw. The machine on the photo is a

> >> usual saw with a  cutting blade.

> >> 

> >> A diamond wire saw could look like these here:

> >>

> http://www.diamondwiretech.com/saws/millennium_slicer.html

> >> It costs probably much more than 400 euros. >> 

> >> Best regards,

> >> Stefan

> >> 

> >> ----- Original Message -----

> >> From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites"

> >> <info at mcomemeteorite.it> To:

> >> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday,

> August >> 06, 2007 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]

> wire saw >> comment

> >> 

> >> 

> >>> probably is the mail, yahoo in this time create many

> >>> problems to ship-receive emails.

> >>> Why contact in private? Is good show to all this info:

> >>> I have buy my wire saw here in Italy, but you find

> whit >>> no problems in USA seen is product in this state.

> The >>> saw is used - I have pay 400 euro paired to

> 500-600$ - >>> but in good conditions. The max diameter is

> possible for >>> me cut is at the 10-12 cm. is possible

> arrive to 20 cm. >>> but I not want take off the meteorite

> from the block, >>> round this, and hope the blade cut in

> the same sign. >>> With a blade of 0.6 mm I cut slices of

> 1 mm thick or >>> under, but normaly I cut of 1 mm thick

> or 2 mm just for >>> not broken the slice.

> >>> The 0.6 mm blade is 20 cm. diameter, but with 0.8 mm I

> >>> have 25 cm. diameter.

> >>> This is the photo of the wire saw

> >>> 

> >>> http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/676/taglierinaio9.jpg

> >>> 

> >>> Matteo

> >>> 

> >>> ----- Original Message -----

> >>> Da : Michael L Blood <mlblood at cox.net>

> >>> A : M come Meteorite Meteorites

> <info at mcomemeteorite.it> >>> , Meteorite List

> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >>> Oggetto : Re:

> [meteorite-list] wire saw comment >>> Data : Sun, 05 Aug

> 2007 17:13:08 -0700 >>> 

> >>>> Hi Matteo,

> >>>>         I have written you twice off list to avoid

> >>>> bothering those not Interested on the list, but got

> no >>>> response, So, I must be on a block in your email.

> >>>> Therefore, I feel the need to bring this up here.

> >>>>         Your comment following a portion of this

> >> month's >> METEORITE MARKET TRENDS (METEORITE TIMES,

> >>>> August, 2007) states you have a wire saw that cost

> you >>>> $1,000.

> >>>>         Could you please contact me off list with the

> >>>> following information:

> >>>> 1) From where did you get the saw? Do they have a web

> >> site >> URL you  Can pas on to me?

> >>>> 2) Was it new or used?

> >>>> 3) How large a diameter stone will it cut?

> >>>> 4) You mentioned it would cut to 1mm  -  will it cut

> >>>> thinner Than that?

> >>>> 5) How much are the wires?

> >>>>         I very much want to avoid passing on

> >>>> miss-information in my articles in METEORITE TIMES.

> So, >> I >> would be very appreciative of your time And

> >> consideration >> in passing on this information since

> >> everyone has been >> consistent in telling me the

> prices I >> cited in the article >> and all the web sites

> of sources I >> have checked also >> confirmed the price

> range I >> mentioned. >>         RSVP

> >>>>         Thanks again, Michael

> >>>> 

> >>>> 

> >>>> on 8/4/07 9:26 PM, M come Meteorite Meteorites at

> >>>> info at mcomemeteorite.it wrote:

> >>>> 

> >>>>> one question on Blood section

> >>>>> 

> >>>>> 1) The thickness of a cut piece, particularly the

> >>>>> thinner it is under 2.5mm. While

> >>>>> exceptionally thin slicing is not possible with some

> >>>>> meteorites, most do quite nicely

> >>>>> when thinly cut. How can it be argued that an

> >> historic >> > fall (or any specimen, for

> >>>>> that matter) cut .8mm thick is not worth a good deal

> >>>>> more "per gram" than a slice

> >>>>> of the same material 4mm in thickness. The thinner

> >> cut >> > slice gives both MUCH

> >>>>> more surface relative to weight and, therefore, much

> >>>>> greater "eye appeal" and

> >>>>> costs the seller a good deal more in both "saw loss"

> >> and >> > in the cost of the saw capable

> >>>>> of making such a thin slice. (A SMALL wire saw costs

> >>>>> about $17,000.00, a large

> >>>>> one, big enough to slice Bob Haag's Zagami stone

> >> costs >> > about $60,000.00).

> >>>>> 

> >>>>> 

> >>>>> $17,000 for a wire saw?? I have buy my for $1000 and

> >> I >> > arrive to cut slices of 1 mm or under thick,

> large >> at 10 >> > cm., with blade of 0.6 mm with any

> problems. >>>>> 

> >>>>> matteo

> >>>> 

> >>>> 

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