[meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 49, Issue 5

[Eric Wichman]

when did they sell? the list email just got delivered like 40 minutes ago...

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Eric



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>    1. "Fossil" as a 17th century term for excavated     meteorite?

>       (chris aubeck)

>    2. Re: "Fossil" as a 17th century term for   excavatedmeteorite?

>       (Chris Peterson)

>    3. Re: "Fossil" as a 17th century term for   excavatedmeteorite?

>       (Michael Murray)

>    4. Impact Craters,   Meteorites & What They Mean To Us. (MW)

>       (Eric Wichman)

>    5. "Fossil" as a [17th century] term for excavated   meteorite

>       (bernd.pauli at paulinet.de)

>    6. Re: "Fossil" as a [17th century] term for excavated meteorite

>       (Jeff Grossman)

>    7. AD:  NWA4649 - LL6 for sale (dean bessey)

>    8. Re: "Fossil" as a [17th century] term for excavated meteorite

>       (chris aubeck)

>    9. Re: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - 

> December        2, 2007 (Jerry)

>   10. magnetic meteorites (Michael Murray)

>   11. AD: Seymchan Slices - Wholesale Lots (David & Kitt Deyarmin)

>   12. Re: magnetic meteorites (Jason Utas)

>   13. Re: magnetic meteorites (Ken Newton)

>   14. Re: magnetic meteorites (Michael Murray)

>   15. Re: magnetic meteorites (Jerry)

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>From: "chris aubeck" <caubeck at gmail.com>

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>To: "Chauncey Walden" <clwaldeniii at comcast.net>

>Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:56:01 +0100

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>Subject: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a 17th century term for excavated

>         meteorite?

>Message: 1

>

>Hi list,

>

>Can anyone tell me when the word "fossil" was first used to describe

>meteorites of this kind?

>

>The use of the term to refer to obtaining anything by digging comes

>from the early 17th century, its use with chiefly organic remains a

>century later (1736). I was wondering whether the word, in the field

>of meteorites, had come to us from before 1736.

>

>Fossil: 1619, "obtained by digging" (adj.), from Fr. fossile, from L.

>fossilis "dug up," from fossus, pp. of fodere "to dig," from PIE base

>*bhedh- "to dig, pierce."

>

>http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=fossil&searchmode=none

>

>Regards,

>

>Chris

>

>

>

>

>On Dec 2, 2007 5:48 PM, Chauncey Walden <clwaldeniii at comcast.net> wrote:

> > Dean, since the loose definition of "fossil" is any evidence of former

> > life, obviously a meteorite, well, most;-), cannot be a fossil. Paleo,

> > or "old", is the better term, and in the case in discussion represents a

> > meteorite that has fallen in past times to the extent of having been

> > incorporated into what became a geologic formation and, in some cases,

> > weathered out again. Your confusion seems to be between fossilization,

> > or the preservation of any evidence of former life (like a basically

> > unaltered mammoth tusk in the Artic), and petrification, or the

> > replacement or pereservation of material by the introduction of silica,

> > like petrified wood. The interesting thing, is that in well preserved

> > petrified wood the cellulose can remain. The silica can be dissolved out

> > and the cellulose structure captured and studied, even to the extent of

> > taking biologic stains.

> >

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>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a 17th century term for

>         excavatedmeteorite?

>Message: 2

>

>I can't answer when, but I do think that using 

>"fossil" as an adjective applied to ancient 

>meteorites is perfectly acceptable. In geology 

>(and other sciences) it usually means anything 

>preserved from an earlier geologic age, not 

>necessarily something living. "Fossil meteorite" 

>is as valid as "fossil water". It is when using 

>"fossil" as a noun that you would be on thinner 

>ice, since that seems reserved for a remnant of an organism.

>

>Chris

>

>*****************************************

>Chris L Peterson

>Cloudbait Observatory

>http://www.cloudbait.com

>

>

>----- Original Message ----- From: "chris aubeck" <caubeck at gmail.com>

>To: "Chauncey Walden" <clwaldeniii at comcast.net>

>Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

>Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:56 AM

>Subject: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a 17th 

>century term for excavatedmeteorite?

>

>

>>Hi list,

>>

>>Can anyone tell me when the word "fossil" was first used to describe

>>meteorites of this kind?

>>

>>The use of the term to refer to obtaining anything by digging comes

>>from the early 17th century, its use with chiefly organic remains a

>>century later (1736). I was wondering whether the word, in the field

>>of meteorites, had come to us from before 1736.

>>

>>Fossil: 1619, "obtained by digging" (adj.), from Fr. fossile, from L.

>>fossilis "dug up," from fossus, pp. of fodere "to dig," from PIE base

>>*bhedh- "to dig, pierce."

>>

>>http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=fossil&searchmode=none

>>

>>Regards,

>>

>>Chris

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>On Dec 2, 2007 5:48 PM, Chauncey Walden <clwaldeniii at comcast.net> wrote:

>>>Dean, since the loose definition of "fossil" is any evidence of former

>>>life, obviously a meteorite, well, most;-), cannot be a fossil. Paleo,

>>>or "old", is the better term, and in the case in discussion represents a

>>>meteorite that has fallen in past times to the extent of having been

>>>incorporated into what became a geologic formation and, in some cases,

>>>weathered out again. Your confusion seems to be between fossilization,

>>>or the preservation of any evidence of former life (like a basically

>>>unaltered mammoth tusk in the Artic), and petrification, or the

>>>replacement or pereservation of material by the introduction of silica,

>>>like petrified wood. The interesting thing, is that in well preserved

>>>petrified wood the cellulose can remain. The silica can be dissolved out

>>>and the cellulose structure captured and studied, even to the extent of

>>>taking biologic stains.

>

>

>

>

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>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a 17th century term for

>         excavatedmeteorite?

>Message: 3

>

>Chris Peterson wrote:

>"I can't answer when, but I do think that using "fossil" as an

>adjective applied to ancient meteorites is perfectly acceptable. In

>geology (and other sciences) it usually means anything preserved from

>an earlier geologic age, not necessarily something living. "Fossil

>meteorite" is as valid as "fossil water". It is when using "fossil"

>as a noun that you would be on thinner ice, since that seems reserved

>for a remnant of an organism."

>

>

>Nicely stated Chris.   I agree.

>

>Mike Murray

>

>

>

>From: Eric Wichman <eric at meteoritewatch.com>

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>         al.com>

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>Subject: [meteorite-list] Impact Craters,

>         Meteorites & What They Mean To Us. (MW)

>Message: 4

>

>

>Ok, it's been a while since I posted anything on 

>the MW site, so I figured I'd put something up 

>that I think everyone might have an appreciation 

>for. Something fun, light and educational. Some 

>of you who are familiar with the Earth Impact 

>Database already know about the craters listed 

>but I found this neat little link on Answers.com 

>that has a plethora of information on impact 

>craters that's not in the database. And it's not 

>just craters on earth either. There's links to 

>info about craters on just about every other 

>planet in our solar system and what impact list 

>would be complete without photos of our nearest celestial body the moon.

>

>I've also written a short article on impact 

>craters, meteorites and what I think they mean 

>to most of the people who spend almost every 

>waking hour hunting, researching, studying, and collecting these great rocks.

>

>Impact Craters, Meteorites & What They Mean To Us... www.meteoritewatch.com

>

>Impact crater info: http://www.answers.com/topic/impact-crater?cat=technology

>

>Impact crater photos : http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Impact_crater

>

>Hope everyone enjoys... :)

>

>

>Regards,

>Eric Wichman

>www.meteoritewatch.com

>www.meteoritesusa.com

>www.detectormax.com

>eric at meteoritewatch.com

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>

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>Subject: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a [17th century] term for excavated

>         meteorite

>Message: 5

>

>Chris inquired:

>

>"Can anyone tell me when the word 'fossil' was

>  first used to describe meteorites of this kind?

>

>It looks like this word has never been used at any time

>before the late 20th century to describe meteorites.

>

>Best regards,

>

>Bernd

>

>

>BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 3, pp. 1403-1408:

>

>Monturaqui:

>

>Taenite ribbons and plessite fields occurred 

>locally; the fields were up to 1.1 x 0.4 mm

>in size, but were "fossil"; i.e., what remained 

>was really only the high-nickel rim zones

>and the retained taenite (austenite) around 

>martensite of high-nickel, high-carbon

>morphology.

>

>Thorslund, P., Wickman, F.E. (1981) Middle 

>Ordovician chondrite in fossiliferous

>limestone from Brunflo, central Sweden (Nature, 289:285- 286).

>

>Catalogue of Meteorites (5th ed.) - Mar'inka: 

>Cosmogenic Mn-53 is also similar to Sikhote-Alin

>values; it gives a terrestrial age of < 10 m.y. 

>Alekseev et al. conclude that Mar'inka cannot be

>a fossil meteorite, but is probably a fragment 

>of Sikhote-Alin, while some details of its trace

>element chemistry differ from Sikhote-Alin 

>(Met.Bull. 72, Meteoritics 27, 1992).

>

>SICREE A.A. et al. (1997) Potential for 

>preservation and recovery of fossil iron meteorites

>from coal, trona, limestone and other 

>sedimentary rocks (Meteoritics 32-4, 1997, A121):

>

>.. Lake Murray (Oklahoma), a IIB coarsest iron 

>(10 mm) found in Cretaceous sandstone

>and the oldest known 'paleoiron' [Ref.: LaPaz L. 

>(1953) Meteoritics 1, pp. 109-113].

>

>KRING D.A. et al. (1998) Gold Basin Meteorite 

>Strewn Field: The 'Fossil' remnants

>of an asteroid that catastrophically fragmented 

>in Earth's atmosphere (Lunar and

>Planetary Science XXIX, in press, 1998).

>

>GOLD D.P. et al. (1999) A strategy for the search and recovery of fossil

>iron meteorites in sedimentary rocks (MAPS 34-4, 1999, A044).

>

>NORTON O.R. (1999) The Lake Murray octahedrite - a "fossil" meteorite

>(M! Nov. 1999, Vol. 5, No. 4, pp. 22-23).

>

>STEPNIEWSKI M. et al. (2000) Preliminary study 

>of a new enstatite meteorite from

>Zaklodzie - southeast Poland (MAPS 35-5, 2000, 

>Suppl., A152): "...According to the

>present results, Zaklodzie could be a fossil 

>stone altered by weathering processes

>(W1/W2) and preserved in quaternary loess sediment ..."

>

>HECK PH.R. et al. (2003) Evidence for the 

>L-chondrite parent body breakup event?

>Cosmic-ray exposure ages of 480 Myr old fossil 

>meteorites (MAPS 38-7, 2003, A044).

>

>

>

>

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>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a [17th century] term for

>         excavated meteorite

>Message: 6

>

>How about this abstract: Nininger, H.H. (1973) Fossil meteorites.

>Meteoritics 8, p.61.

>

>http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?bibcode=%3F%3F%3F%3FMetic...8&db_key=GEN&page_ind=86&data_type=GIF&type=SCREEN_VIEW&classic=YES&high=46562617c114850

>

>jeff

>

>bernd.pauli at paulinet.de wrote:

>>Chris inquired:

>>

>>"Can anyone tell me when the word 'fossil' was

>>  first used to describe meteorites of this kind?

>>

>>It looks like this word has never been used at any time

>>before the late 20th century to describe meteorites.

>>

>>Best regards,

>>

>>Bernd

>>

>>

>>BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 3, pp. 1403-1408:

>>

>>Monturaqui:

>>

>>Taenite ribbons and plessite fields occurred 

>>locally; the fields were up to 1.1 x 0.4 mm

>>in size, but were "fossil"; i.e., what remained 

>>was really only the high-nickel rim zones

>>and the retained taenite (austenite) around 

>>martensite of high-nickel, high-carbon

>>morphology.

>>Thorslund, P., Wickman, F.E. (1981) Middle 

>>Ordovician chondrite in fossiliferous

>>limestone from Brunflo, central Sweden (Nature, 289:285- 286).

>>

>>Catalogue of Meteorites (5th ed.) - Mar'inka: 

>>Cosmogenic Mn-53 is also similar to Sikhote-Alin

>>values; it gives a terrestrial age of < 10 m.y. 

>>Alekseev et al. conclude that Mar'inka cannot be

>>a fossil meteorite, but is probably a fragment 

>>of Sikhote-Alin, while some details of its trace

>>element chemistry differ from Sikhote-Alin 

>>(Met.Bull. 72, Meteoritics 27, 1992).

>>

>>SICREE A.A. et al. (1997) Potential for 

>>preservation and recovery of fossil iron meteorites

>>from coal, trona, limestone and other 

>>sedimentary rocks (Meteoritics 32-4, 1997, A121):

>>

>>.. Lake Murray (Oklahoma), a IIB coarsest iron 

>>(10 mm) found in Cretaceous sandstone

>>and the oldest known 'paleoiron' [Ref.: LaPaz 

>>L. (1953) Meteoritics 1, pp. 109-113].

>>

>>KRING D.A. et al. (1998) Gold Basin Meteorite 

>>Strewn Field: The 'Fossil' remnants

>>of an asteroid that catastrophically fragmented 

>>in Earth's atmosphere (Lunar and

>>Planetary Science XXIX, in press, 1998).

>>

>>GOLD D.P. et al. (1999) A strategy for the search and recovery of fossil

>>iron meteorites in sedimentary rocks (MAPS 34-4, 1999, A044).

>>

>>NORTON O.R. (1999) The Lake Murray octahedrite - a "fossil" meteorite

>>(M! Nov. 1999, Vol. 5, No. 4, pp. 22-23).

>>

>>STEPNIEWSKI M. et al. (2000) Preliminary study 

>>of a new enstatite meteorite from

>>Zaklodzie - southeast Poland (MAPS 35-5, 2000, 

>>Suppl., A152): "...According to the

>>present results, Zaklodzie could be a fossil 

>>stone altered by weathering processes

>>(W1/W2) and preserved in quaternary loess sediment ..."

>>

>>HECK PH.R. et al. (2003) Evidence for the 

>>L-chondrite parent body breakup event?

>>Cosmic-ray exposure ages of 480 Myr old fossil 

>>meteorites (MAPS 38-7, 2003, A044).

>>

>>

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>Subject: [meteorite-list] AD:  NWA4649 - LL6 for sale

>Message: 7

>

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>

>

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>From: "chris aubeck" <caubeck at gmail.com>

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>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a [17th century] term for

>         excavated meteorite

>Message: 8

>

>Hi,

>

>I have found several references from 1871, using Google Book Search.

>

>Viewing is restricted to:

>

>"Fossil Meteorite.— A new meteorite has just 

>been discovered in the miocène ...

>This is the first instance on record of a truly fossil meteorite having been"

>

>You can see further examples here:

>

>http://books.google.es/books?q=%22fossil+meteorite%22

>

>I don't know what it is referring to.

>

>Best,

>

>Chris

>

>On 02 Dec 2007 20:03:16 UT,  <bernd.pauli at paulinet.de> wrote:

> > Chris inquired:

> >

> > "Can anyone tell me when the word 'fossil' was

> >  first used to describe meteorites of this kind?

> >

> > It looks like this word has never been used at any time

> > before the late 20th century to describe meteorites.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Bernd

> >

> >

> > BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 3, pp. 1403-1408:

> >

> > Monturaqui:

> >

> > Taenite ribbons and plessite fields occurred 

> locally; the fields were up to 1.1 x 0.4 mm

> > in size, but were "fossil"; i.e., what 

> remained was really only the high-nickel rim zones

> > and the retained taenite (austenite) around 

> martensite of high-nickel, high-carbon

> > morphology.

> >

> > Thorslund, P., Wickman, F.E. (1981) Middle 

> Ordovician chondrite in fossiliferous

> > limestone from Brunflo, central Sweden (Nature, 289:285- 286).

> >

> > Catalogue of Meteorites (5th ed.) - Mar'inka: 

> Cosmogenic Mn-53 is also similar to Sikhote-Alin

> > values; it gives a terrestrial age of < 10 

> m.y. Alekseev et al. conclude that Mar'inka cannot be

> > a fossil meteorite, but is probably a 

> fragment of Sikhote-Alin, while some details of its trace

> > element chemistry differ from Sikhote-Alin 

> (Met.Bull. 72, Meteoritics 27, 1992).

> >

> > SICREE A.A. et al. (1997) Potential for 

> preservation and recovery of fossil iron meteorites

> > from coal, trona, limestone and other 

> sedimentary rocks (Meteoritics 32-4, 1997, A121):

> >

> > .. Lake Murray (Oklahoma), a IIB coarsest 

> iron (10 mm) found in Cretaceous sandstone

> > and the oldest known 'paleoiron' [Ref.: LaPaz 

> L. (1953) Meteoritics 1, pp. 109-113].

> >

> > KRING D.A. et al. (1998) Gold Basin Meteorite 

> Strewn Field: The 'Fossil' remnants

> > of an asteroid that catastrophically 

> fragmented in Earth's atmosphere (Lunar and

> > Planetary Science XXIX, in press, 1998).

> >

> > GOLD D.P. et al. (1999) A strategy for the search and recovery of fossil

> > iron meteorites in sedimentary rocks (MAPS 34-4, 1999, A044).

> >

> > NORTON O.R. (1999) The Lake Murray octahedrite - a "fossil" meteorite

> > (M! Nov. 1999, Vol. 5, No. 4, pp. 22-23).

> >

> > STEPNIEWSKI M. et al. (2000) Preliminary 

> study of a new enstatite meteorite from

> > Zaklodzie - southeast Poland (MAPS 35-5, 

> 2000, Suppl., A152): "...According to the

> > present results, Zaklodzie could be a fossil 

> stone altered by weathering processes

> > (W1/W2) and preserved in quaternary loess sediment ..."

> >

> > HECK PH.R. et al. (2003) Evidence for the 

> L-chondrite parent body breakup event?

> > Cosmic-ray exposure ages of 480 Myr old 

> fossil meteorites (MAPS 38-7, 2003, A044).

> >

> >

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>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December

>         2, 2007

>Message: 9

>

>Talk about not reading the whole text. I began 

>googling dagogah swamp cave "meteorite"

>DOH DU.  [good old Joba]

>But that takes nothing away from a most 

>astoundingly, interesting and pleasing 

>photograph by Tom and pride in ownership by Jeff.

>Blowing that up to Exhibit size, would create 

>abundant interest at any art gallery sure to 

>inspire calls for the appearance of the artist.

>Thank you Michael for your continued inspiration.

>Jerry Flaherty

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>Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space 

>Picture of the Day - December 2, 2007

>

>

>>http://www.rocksfromspace.org/December_2_2007.html

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>From: Michael Murray <mmurray at montrose.net>

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>Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:43:20 -0700

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>Subject: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

>Message: 10

>

>Hi List,

>I've read somewhere that it is possible for a meteorite to be

>magnetic.  Reading that made me believe someone has discovered such a

>meteorite(s).   Anyone out there on the List want to volunteer

>information and/or maybe some pictures (or a link to some pictures)

>of such an iron?  Let me guess this first, mostly kamacite, right?

>If you have pictures, besides wanting to confirm my guess, I am

>interested in seeing the exterior, as in flow features and fusion

>crust.  I would also be interested in knowing just how magnetic it is.

>

>Mike Murray

>

>

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>From: "David & Kitt Deyarmin" <bobadebt at ec.rr.com>

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>Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Seymchan Slices - Wholesale Lots

>Message: 11

>

>I have 2 lots of freshly cut Seymchan Slices.

>

>My cutting process leave a very smooth surface 

>and very little sanding and polishing is required to etch these slices.

>

>This is the last of the Seymchan that I have.

>

>If you're interested in either or both lots send 

>an email off list to bobadebt at ec.rr.com

>

>Thanks

>

>----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>LOT 1 - 8 Slices / Total Weight 141 Grams / $70

>

>I was testing the limits of my cutting process 

>by trying to see how thin I could cut a slice so 

>slice thickness of this lot varies from 1mm to 4mm

>

>They are all about the same size which is approximately 45mm x 35mm

>

>http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/8Slices.jpg

>

>

>----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>LOT 2 - 12 Slices & 1 End Cut / Total Weight 538 Grams / $250

>

>This lot was cut to a consistent thickness of 

>approximately 4mm, a few slices vary due to 

>blade changes but overall they are very close. 

>The last cut is thicker and has a slight taper.

>

>

>http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/12Slices.jpg

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>From: "Jason Utas" <meteoritekid at gmail.com>

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>Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:17:05 -0800

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>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

>Message: 12

>

>Hello Mike,

>~92% of all meteorites are magnetic; all irons, all stony irons, and

>nearly all stones are magnetic.

>The only meteorites that are not magnetic would be the HED's (some of

>these are slightly magentic), as well as Aubrites (though some of

>these contain iron as well), planetary meteorites (oftentimes

>*slightly* attracted to a neodymium magnet, though one should never

>poke such meteorites with a magnet), and Rumuruti chondrites (in this

>case, because most of the iron is contained within iron sulfide, and

>is thus non-magnetic).

>Depending on the stone, a few carbonaceous meteorites are lightly

>magnetic, but in general, they tend to be magnetic as well.

>Almost all meteorites are magnetic...I don't know where you heard

>otherwise, but...yeah.

>Regards,

>Jason

>

>On Dec 2, 2007 4:43 PM, Michael Murray <mmurray at montrose.net> wrote:

> > Hi List,

> > I've read somewhere that it is possible for a meteorite to be

> > magnetic.  Reading that made me believe someone has discovered such a

> > meteorite(s).   Anyone out there on the List want to volunteer

> > information and/or maybe some pictures (or a link to some pictures)

> > of such an iron?  Let me guess this first, mostly kamacite, right?

> > If you have pictures, besides wanting to confirm my guess, I am

> > interested in seeing the exterior, as in flow features and fusion

> > crust.  I would also be interested in knowing just how magnetic it is.

> >

> > Mike Murray

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>From: Ken Newton <magellon at earthlink.net>

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>To: Michael Murray <mmurray at montrose.net>

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>Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:43:53 -0500

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>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

>Message: 13

>

>Hi Michael,

>Magnetic can mean more than one thing:

>1.    of or pertaining to a magnet or magnetism.

>2.    having the properties of a magnet.

>3.    capable of being magnetized or attracted by a magnet.

>4.    pertaining to the magnetic field of the earth: the magnetic equator.

>5.    exerting a strong attractive power or charm: a magnetic personality.

>6.    noting or pertaining to various bearings 

>and measurements as indicated by a magnetic 

>compass: magnetic amplitude; magnetic course; magnetic meridian.

>

>The definition pertaining to meteorites is #3 not #2.

>Best,

>ken

>

>

>

>Michael Murray wrote:

>>Hi List,

>>I've read somewhere that it is possible for a 

>>meteorite to be magnetic.  Reading that made me 

>>believe someone has discovered such a 

>>meteorite(s).   Anyone out there on the List 

>>want to volunteer information and/or maybe some 

>>pictures (or a link to some pictures) of such 

>>an iron?  Let me guess this first, mostly 

>>kamacite, right?  If you have pictures, besides 

>>wanting to confirm my guess, I am interested in 

>>seeing the exterior, as in flow features and 

>>fusion crust.  I would also be interested in knowing just how magnetic it is.

>>

>>Mike Murray

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>Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:33:00 -0700

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>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

>Message: 14

>

>Hi Jason, List

>Perhaps I used the wrong word when I wrote "magnetic".  What I was

>looking for was info on meteorites that are magnets.

>

>Sorry 'bout that

>Mike

>

>

>

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>From: "Jerry" <grf2 at verizon.net>

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>Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:04:25 -0500

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>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

>Message: 15

>

>It is my understanding that most iron objects 

>are susceptible to being magnitized, turned into 

>magnets, if exposed to a strong magnetic field. 

>So if a meteorite containing iron is exposed to 

>strong ENOUGH magnets for long ENOUGH [note the 

>qualifying capitalization], under the RIGHT 

>circunstances it would not be impossible for SOME to become magnets.

>Jerry Flaherty

>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Murray" <mmurray at montrose.net>

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>Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:33 PM

>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites

>

>

>>Hi Jason, List

>>Perhaps I used the wrong word when I wrote 

>>"magnetic".  What I was looking for was info on meteorites that are magnets.

>>

>>Sorry 'bout that

>>Mike

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