[meteorite-list] Rosetta Stone Analogy

Peter Marmet p.marmet at mysunrise.ch
Mon Jun 4 13:45:16 EDT 2007


Hi Dave,

with a few METEOR beers and the blue sky over Ensisheim, a
continuation of the story might be bearable;-)!

See you all soon!

Peter


Dave Schultz wrote:


> Sorry to intrude on your little discussion..., but

> me thinks that this topic should be discussed properly

> over a few beers in Ensisheim, although that might

> lead to more discussions! :)

>

> Dave

>

>

>

>

>> ...sorry, should be DHOFAR 908, not NWA!

>>

>> Peter

>>

>>

>>

>> Peter Marmet wrote:

>>

>>

>>> Hello Norbert, Adam, Marcin and All,

>>>

>>> it seems I didn't make myself very clear. I have

>>>

>> absolutely nothing

>>

>>> against the term:

>>> This one is kind of a Rosetta Stone for this and

>>>

>> this...or some

>>

>>> sort of a Missing Link...or some

>>> kind of a Smoking Gun for...but what makes me feel

>>>

>> similar as

>>

>>> Marcin, was the following:

>>>

>>> The finders sold their NWA 908 for years under the

>>>

>> name NWA

>>

>>> 908...suddenly NWA 908 is THE(!) Rosetta Stone

>>> which means THE ONE AND ONLY....

>>>

>>> ...ok, the main reason why I wrote this e-mail

>>> was to get more info about this rather special /

>>>

>> stunning /

>>

>>> fantastic / one of it's kind lithology story!

>>> ... Adam wrote: that displays two (2) lithologies

>>> ...Norbert wrote: displaying three (3) distinct

>>>

>> lithologies

>>

>>>

>>> Very interested to hear more about this unique

>>>

>> meteorite...

>>

>>> not very keen to hear more about what names are

>>>

>> legal / honest /

>>

>>> ethical and

>>> which are not...sorry, if I started this debate!

>>>

>>> Peter

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Norbert Classen wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Dear Marcin,

>>>>

>>>> I didn't use that term for marketing reasons, and

>>>>

>> it is not a

>>

>>>> synonym for

>>>> Dhofar 908 in general but I just used it for the

>>>>

>> 81g main mass of

>>

>>>> Dhofar

>>>> 908, displaying three distinct lithologies

>>>>

>> linking previous finds

>>

>>>> together.

>>>> That's why I called it a Rosetta stone. Back in

>>>>

>> 2003 virtually

>>

>>>> nobody was

>>>> willing to believe that e.g. Dhofar 489, and

>>>>

>> Dhofar 305 did belong

>>

>>>> to one

>>>> and the same (ancient) fall. That's not the same

>>>>

>> thing as calling

>>

>>>> it "Donald

>>>> Duck", it's a linguistic ploy to express

>>>>

>> something of scientific

>>

>>>> meaning...

>>>> Do you think Baker and Bizzaro used their analogy

>>>>

>> as a marketing

>>

>>>> ploy, or

>>>> just because the liked the funny name?

>>>>

>>>> BTW, as to my knowledge neither Adam nor I did

>>>>

>> use the Rosetta

>>

>>>> stone analogy

>>>> without making it very clear that we were talking

>>>>

>> about Dhofar

>>

>>>> 908, not in

>>>> general, but in respect to a certain

>>>>

>> stone/fragment of Dhofar 908,

>>

>>>> and its

>>>> special history/properties.

>>>>

>>>> And, as for the monetary "value" of certain

>>>>

>> specimens: do you

>>

>>>> think that a

>>>> specimen of, let's say normal Zagami will demand

>>>>

>> the same resale

>>

>>>> price as a

>>>> specimen with dual lithologies, including the DML

>>>>

>> (dark mottled

>>

>>>> lithology)

>>>> of Zagami? You are correct, the "meteorite will

>>>>

>> stay the same",

>>

>>>> but I fear

>>>> you won't get the latter one, cheap. And: if you

>>>>

>> know of a source

>>

>>>> who sells

>>>> dual-lith Zagami at the price of normal Zagami,

>>>>

>> just give me a

>>

>>>> call :-)

>>>>

>>>> My 3 lithologies,

>>>> Norbert

>>>>

>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

>>>> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com

>>>>

>>>>

>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]

>> Im Auftrag von

>>

>>>> PolandMET

>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 4. Juni 2007 00:01

>>>> An: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

>>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta Stone

>>>>

>> Analogy

>>

>>>>

>>>> Dear list members.

>>>> Every meteorite is special.

>>>>

>>>> For me is better to call meteorite with his

>>>>

>> official name even if

>>

>>>> this is

>>>> ugly NWA 9999999 name, than create some unreal

>>>>

>> "marketing" names

>>

>>>> that have

>>>> nothing to do with meteorites. I see only one

>>>>

>> reason for this,

>>

>>>> better sales

>>>> becouse of better name. If we call it Rosetta

>>>>

>> Stone, Louis

>>

>>>> Michelle or

>>>> Donald Duck or Shrek, meteorite will stay the

>>>>

>> same and not become

>>

>>>> more

>>>> importand or rare.

>>>>

>>>> Thats my two CH3nt's

>>>>

>>>> -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-----[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-----

>>>> http://www.Meteoryt.net

>>>>

>> marcin at meteoryt.net

>>

>>>> http://www.PolandMET.com

>>>>

>> marcin at polandmet.com

>>

>>>> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535

>>>>

>> 195

>>

>>>> --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society

>>>>

>> ]--------

>>

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