[meteorite-list] A friendly warning...

[M come Meteorite Meteorites]

occasionally...mmmmmmm....is strange 2 packs from the same
dealer - Cottingham- all 2 it is go lost....one ok, but
two...

Matteo

----- Original Message -----
Da : Thomas Webb <webbth1 at yahoo.com>
A : meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...
Data : Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:56:37 -0700 (PDT)


> List,

> I believe Michael makes a timely shipment of

> everything ordered and paid for.  I've never had this

> problem in the seven years I've been buying from him.

> Problems with International shipments happen to

> everyone occasionally.

> Thomas

> 

> --- Martin Altmann <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>

> wrote:

> 

> > >Its well know ordinary packs go

> > >for the 70% lost.

> > 

> > Then the problem has to be located in Italy,

> > I had only 2 losses in 7 years from USA.

> > 

> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

> > Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com

> > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]

> > Im Auftrag von M come

> > Meteorite Meteorites

> > Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Juni 2007 19:03

> > An: michael cottingham; 'Jakub Radwan';

> > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

> > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...

> > 

> > It is many strange speack of high shipping cost when

> > I buy

> > many minerals from USA - some its over 4 kg. - and I

> > pay for

> > all $55 for a unique ship and registered, or a

> > normaly

> > registered mail of at 200 grams I pay at $10 via

> > USPS...for

> > not speack of express courier type FedEx or UPS,

> > this last I

> > pay at $40 for big packs. Its well know ordinary

> > packs go

> > for the 70% lost.

> > 

> > Matteo

> > 

> > 

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > Da : "michael cottingham" <mikewren at gilanet.com>

> > A : "'Jakub Radwan'" <jakub at meteorites.pl>,

> > <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

> > Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...

> > Data : Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:56:32 -0600

> > 

> > > Jakub,

> > > 

> > > When is the last time you emailed me?  5 or 6

> > months ago? 

> > > Because this is the 1st time, since our

> > transaction that I

> > > have heard anything about this one.

> > > 

> > > Back then I answered your emails. Back then I told

> > you I

> > > had shipped it and back then I communicated with

> > you just

> > > fine.

> > > 

> > > NO. I don't answer every email on the same

> > subject,

> > > especially when overseas shipping can take time

> > ... a long

> > > time.  I have had this problem before, and I

> > believe

> > > everyone finally did receive their item. Maybe, a

> > year

> > > later, but that was not MY FAULT!  

> > > 

> > > True Story:  I sent out several thousands of

> > dollars worth

> > > of the Rare Fall, Weston... I sent it out Global

> > Priority

> > > Mail. It never showed up. I was surprised because

> > I had

> > > never lost a Global Priority before. I sent a

> > > replacement.. Registered Mail, Thousands of

> > dollars more

> > > of Weston. IT NEVER Showed up. This was to

> > Germany.  The

> > > buyer thought I was a thief. I thought the buyer a

> > thief.

> > > I began to slowly refund the money... I was pissed

> > because

> > > I thought I was scammed. About a year or more

> > later, one

> > > of the packages was found in the basement of the

> > next door

> > > neighbor. They found this package while cleaning

> > their

> > > basement. My buyer was not home when the package

> > came, so

> > > the postman gave it to the neighbor... and she

> > finally

> > > gave it to my client a year later!  The second

> > package is

> > > still missing in Germany.

> > > 

> > > In the 10 years I have been doing this... I have

> > sent over

> > > 20,000 packages. I have over 9,000 (NINE THOUSAND)

> > > Positive feedbacks on Ebay, and that is just my

> > ebay

> > > business.  I have sold thousands of meteorites to

> > hundreds

> > > of happy customers. I have refunded every purchase

> > that

> > > was lost in the mail or if the person was

> > dissatisfied. 

> > > 

> > > Also, there is NO WAY to track your shipment

> > outside the

> > > USA. At that time I do not believe that service

> > was

> > > available on the way I sent it.

> > > 

> > > ALSO, when you elect to play the "Customs Game",

> > that is,

> > > no or little value decalred on the item and you

> > want to

> > > insure it for the full amount, remember I told you

> > I don't

> > > do that. It is illegal.  I did recommend that you

> > insure

> > > it, but that amount would be declared on the

> > customs

> > > invoice and you would have to pay your customs

> > fee. If the

> > > buyer elects to have NO VALUE placed on the item,

> > as to

> > > avoid custom fees, then they forfeit all rights to

> > a

> > > refund.

> > > 

> > > 

> > > I have had maybe 25 lost packages, (In 10 years)

> > and I

> > > believe I have refunded or replaced the items in

> > all of

> > > these cases, unless there was some other

> > agreement.

> > > 

> > > In my experience, Italy is the worst place to send

> > > anything to... Eastern Europe is second and

> > Germany has

> > > sometimes the worst delays.. (Due to Customs). 

> > This

> > > statement is not intended to be slander or to be

> > mean, but

> > > some countries have a terrible postal system, with

> > thieves

> > > , delays, and other problems...

> > > 

> > > I am in the business to sell meteorites... not

> > play games.

> > >  CUSTOMER> POSTAL SERVICE>SELLER.  The party in

> > the middle

> > > is sometimes to blame!

> > > 

> > > 

> > > Best Wishes

> > > 

> > > Michael Cottingham

> > > 

> > > 

> > > 

> > > 

> > > 

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com

> > >

> > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]

> > On

> > > Behalf Of Jakub Radwan

> > > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 6:35 AM

> > > To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...

> > > 

> > > Dear Listees,

> > > 

> > > As I have tried all other ways to work things out,

> > I

> > > believe it is high  time I sent a friendly

> > warning. 

> > > 

> > > Almost 7 months ago, I purchased a specimen of

> > Campo Del

> > > Cielo from Michael  Cottingham. As a Christmas

> > bonus

> > > Michael offered a 50% discount and agreed  to

> > cover

> > > freight charges. What was my surprise when it

> > turned out

> > > that the  package had been sent via USPS's Global

> > Economy

> > > Parcel service (the worst  ground shipping option

> > out

> > > there with estimated delivery time of 4-6  weeks).

> > > Needless to say the parcel has never made it, but

> > that is

> > > not why I  am making this public. The real reason

> > is

> > > Michael's lack of respect for his  customers.

> > > 

> > > Not only has he failed to provide me with a

> > shipping

> > > confirmation as a  proof that the package has

> > actually

> > > been sent (with all due respect, why  should I

> > trust him?)

> > > , he is also not even so kind as to reply to my 

> > e-mails.

> > > Of course, I am aware there is no way to get my

> > money

> > > back. I just  want to warn you. Please think twice

> > before

> > > you order anything from the  Michael Cottingham

> > Meteorite

> > > Collection.

> > > 

> > > 

> > > Kind regards from Poland,

> > > 

> > > Jakub Radwan

> > > Polish Meteoritical Society

> > > 

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