[meteorite-list] Don't delay, order today! - Suspect Auction-Suspect ID@!

[Jason Utas]

I said:


> The only slag that I've known to contain olivine was Seymchan, and

> there's some debate as to whether that was actually waste, or, in

> fact, a synthetic meteorite look-alike meant to confuse buyers.

> The fact that the stone contains olivine means that either:


*Not "Seymchan," but rather "Shirokovsky."

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Elton, All,

> Hardly; I just think it's stupid to rule any sample out completely

> without a lab analysis.

> There's no single feature on the stone being auctioned that would

> suggest that it is not, in fact, a fresh mesosiderite individual, and

> seeing as I am as qualified as you, if not better, to tell, I don't

> see how you can realistically argue.

> ...Or am I right:

>

> http://www.meteoriteguy.com/catalog/dong-ujimqin/520.9.htm

>

> The only slag that I've known to contain olivine was Seymchan, and

> there's some debate as to whether that was actually waste, or, in

> fact, a synthetic meteorite look-alike meant to confuse buyers.

> The fact that the stone contains olivine means that either:

>

> 1) Someone went out of their way to purchase pieces of yellowish

> olivine, and put it in some slag to fool potential buyers.  Possible I

> suppose, but this seems unlikely.

>

> 2) A synthetic replacement such as glass could have been used, but the

> crystals pictured were not of a typical bottle colour, so some special

> source must have been used...or maybe they mixed brown and green?

> Either way, you're not looking at the typical scammer if they did take

> the trouble to figure out the colour that the olivine should have

> been.  Furthermore, if they'd taken the time/trouble to figure out as

> much about meteorites, they would likely have figured out that their

> stone wouldn't sell on ebay as-listed.  But I might be overestimating

> the seller.  Or maybe slag typically contains large yellow-orange

> crystals...no.

>

> 3) (Your suggestion here.)

>

> 4) It is a meteorite.

>

> Honestly, Elton, have a look at that picture for yourself.  The stones

> are very similar in texture, though the ebay stone appears as bit more

> oddly shaped.  That said, the stone pictured on Michael Farmer's page

> is a fragment, and the stone on ebay appeared to be a complete,

> ablated individual.  I assume that ablation would sculpt such a

> heterogeneous stone admirably.

> Jason

>

>

> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Mr EMan <mstreman53 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Ha ha Funny... the Rorschach-Shroom Techinque of meteorite

> > identification...Down to confirming orange olivine crystals-- in a

> > mesosiderite no less--and fresh?  It is fresh from the slag pile!

> >

> > I've got petrified frog poop that looks more like a meteorite then

> > this.

> >

> > Pleeease...this is an early April One-0 post, Right?

> >

> > Eman

> > --- Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com> wrote:

> >

> > > Olah All,

> > > Looks like a fresh mesosiderite.  I know, the shape is odd - but have

> > > a look at fresh pieces of that Chinese mesosiderite fall Dong Umjim

> > > Qui...or however it's spelled...they look rather similar to this,

> > > though by the look of the orange crystals clearly visible on the

> > > surface of this stone, this one has more olivine in it.

> >

> >

> > > That said, it could also be an unusual piece of slag,<==gudanzer

> >

> > and I don't

> > > feel like betting $1k on such a strange piece from a questionable

> > > location...if I had more money, I might think otherwise.

> > > Regards,

> > > Jason

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Michael Murray

> > > <mmurray at montrose.net> wrote:

> >  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120236513887

> >

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