[meteorite-list] pronouncing "Ensisheim"

[Zelimir.Gabelica at uha.fr]

> Hi Anne, Larry, all

>

> I'll try to help in pronouncing "Ensisheim".

>

> As you said, Anne, Alsace (Ensisheim) changed nationality many times  

>  during the modern era (for details, I urge you to read and re-read   

> the nice book of Philippe Thomas and Lea Dejouy "Histoire de   

> Météorites", part 1: "Ensisheim" (2005, 184 pp, euro 26.40,   

> discounted on "Meteoritica" web site).

>

> Basically, people here still use to speak "Alsacian" (which is

> considered as a language, thus more than a dialect). It is close to

> German (or Swiss German) and the pronounciation of "Ensisheim" is the

> same in both languages, something as "Enn-Siss-Haym".

> But the Alsace region is now in France where French is the only

> official language.

> French rather pronounce "Enn-Siss-Heym" (close but different at the end).

>

> I'll be glad to read how it is actually pronounced in other foreign

> languages (Dirk ?)

>

> This being, if I can help anybody in trying to "write" how to pronounce

> other names of French meteorites, I can try.

> Just ask.

> The weirdest name to pronounce correctly in English seems to be "Orgueil".

> I even can't find how to write the end part, as this is the tricky one

> (but I can consult experts in writing phonetic pronounciations).

> I am however voulonteering to give particular pronounciation lessons

> next June during the Ensisheim show (for which I just sent you many

> details earlier today).

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Zelimir

>

>

>

> A 16:08 24/04/2008 -0400, Impactika at aol.com a écrit :

>> Hello Larry and List,

>>

>> Obviously, you are talking about the Ensisheim Show, and I pronince  

>>  the  name

>> the way that looks most likely to me, something like En-zi-sheim. But mybe

>> you should ask the local people since yes, the area has changed nationality

>> repeatedly thru the centuries. Maybe Zelimir can help.

>>

>> But I can help you with Orgueil, or L'Aigle.

>> And many names are easy to pronounce if you break them down,   

>> something  like:

>> Mill-bill-hill-lie.or Ta-fa-ssa-sset.

>> Nothing to it!!!

>>

>> BTW: Anyone of you in the Denver area this weekend?  we have a nice,

>> relatively important Show at the Holiday Inn. Go here for details:

>> _http://www.mzexpos.com/colorado_spring.htm_   

>> (http://www.mzexpos.com/colorado_spring.htm)

>>

>> See you there, maybe.

>>

>> Anne M. Black

>> _www.IMPACTIKA.com_ (http://www.IMPACTIKA.com)

>> _IMPACTIKA at aol.com_ (mailto:IMPACTIKA at aol.com)

>> Vice-President of IMCA Inc.

>> _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc)

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> In a message dated 4/23/2008 9:38:27 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

>> lebofsky at lpl.arizona.edu writes:

>> Hi all:

>>

>> Sounds like a new Meteorite  magazine column to me!

>>

>> Could be done alphabetically or by country (would  need volunteers from the

>> countries involved [regional for USA?] or people who  speak the language).

>>

>> Anyone want to volunteer to do it/oversee it? Start  it off? Anyone, anyone?

>>

>> By the way, off line I got this suggestion (sort  of) from Anne Black and

>> my question to her is:

>>

>> There is a Gem and  Mineral show the occurs every year during the summer,

>> in Eastern France,  where a meteorite was seen to fall (over 500 years

>> ago). How is it  pronounced? I bring this up since someone today mentioned

>> asking Anne how to  pronounce French meteorites and, in Anne's room at the

>> Tucson show, I heard  two different pronunciations of this show/meteorite

>> from two people who spoke  with French accents! Yes Anne, you still have an

>> accent!

>>

>> In this case,  does it have to do with the fact that it is near a

>> German-speaking  country?

>>

>> Larry

>>

>> Co-Editor, Meteorite magazine

>>

>>

>>

>>

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> Prof. Zelimir Gabelica

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