[meteorite-list] AD - Crusted Zagami, L3 Conglomerate

[Bob Evans]

Al,

Never heard of Mauro Daniel. Sent money, no material ? Thats a joke. Look at 
my feedback.
A clown like this doesnt even know who he dealt with

Ryan is a little self centered brat who blew off a deal with me.
McCartney and I had a deal go bad that we are to this day trying to 
reconcile.
Misrepresent ? Never !
NWA 1110 - Adams efforts to comletely control certain areas of the market.

As for you Al, You never bought a single item from me, have you?
So if you have a problem with me I suggest that you take it up with me face 
to face and stop hiding behind that monitor you little P***Y

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "al mitterling" <almitt at kconline.com>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Crusted Zagami, L3 Conglomerate



> Greetings List Members,

>

> It seems that a certain member in bad standing that continues to want to 

> advertise here who has cheated a number of unsuspecting members by both 

> not returning money to them after promising to do so and also 

> misrepresenting meteorite types as something rare when they are not. A 

> number of these victims wrote to me to thank me for posting my first email 

> message about him.

>

> Here are a few of the list archives indicating there are serious problems 

> with this creep. You can also go here to see for your self a number of the 

> problems that have been posted over the list for a number of years.

>

> http://www.google.com/custom?q=bob+evans&domains=six.pairlist.net&sitesearch=six.pairlist.net&sitesearch=&sa=Search+the+Archives

>

> I must warn the list of Bob Evans as well. I was supposed to receive a 

> $125 refund from Bob over a month ago and I still have not received my 

> money back, nor have I recieved a response from him after several email 

> and phone call attempts. Well, I checked his Ebay history a few days ago 

> and noticed that he had placed a $1500 bid on a meteorite not too long 

> ago, yet he cannot afford to return my hard-earned money back to me? Never 

> again! I warn everyone else not to do any business with Bob Evans. His 

> unprofessionalism is a joke.

>

> Ryan

>

> Well, Bob Evans just called me after reading my email to the list and he 

> was pissed-off as I had expected he would be.. nearly shouting at me 

> through the phone line. It doesn't look like I wil be getting "a penny 

> back" from him, so it looks like I'll have to use alternate routes to get 

> my money back. Sorry to everyone else who has to read this, but his 

> reaction to the situation is unacceptable. By the way Bob....I'm 22 years 

> old, not 15 as you had asked me during our brief phone altercation this 

> evening. See you in Tucson next year... I'm sure everyone will be giving 

> you a warm welcome.

>

> Ryan

>

> Bob Evans its another Cosmicvisitors alias Brad Sampson...sent money no

> material, useless excuses aside the mailbox not go etc.....

>

> Mauro Daniel

>

> McCartney and List,

> Doesn`t a theft of goods totaling a sum of 4,000+$ constitute a Felony in 

> Texas?

> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061122154905AAnQ0ts

> Thank you McCartney for your post to the list.

> Sincerely, Dirk...Tokyo

>

> mccartney <mccartney at blackbearddata.com> wrote:

> As a member of IMCA, I feel it my duty to warn other meteorite buffs to 

> avoid entanglements from questionable persons.

>

> On June 24, 2006 I posted to the list as a courtesy that I had been the 

> victim of a fraudulent trade with Bob Evans. This is the rest of the 

> story...

>

> After a year of trying to resolve the issue, it took me many more months 

> to conclude that he just wasn't going to respond.

>

> I sent emails, Ebay emails, registered letters and confirmed delivery 

> letters, with no response from Mr. Evans. He had my piece and he wasn't 

> going to finish the trade.

>

> I sued Bob Evans in Williamson County, Texas Court. It went to court on 

> October 19, 2006. Small CLaims suit #060094. He apparently tried to avoid 

> being served his lawsuit by the Will County Sheriff, but they served him 

> successfully. He did not respond to the suit, nor did he show in court.

>

> He lost by default and now has a judgment of $4,800 against him. He now 

> joins Mr. Casper in the hall of Shame.

>

> Its my character flaw to be an overyly trusting guy. I have traded with 

> people from South Africa to West Texas, Poland to Alaska. Never had a 

> problem. On the whole the average meteorite fan is a fair, wholesome, 

> science loving, respectable person. I encourage all of you to trade with 

> your peers on this list, but do a little homework on your partner first to 

> weed out the Caspers and Bob Evans's.

>

> Last word, the meteorite community is a small sand box - Remember to play 

> nice.

>

> -mt

> IMCA 2760

>

> Yes, there was a lawsuit against Bob Evans brought by me. It was in

>> regards to a trade that was partially done, where I sent material and 

>> only

>

>> received a partial trade, then Evans went quiet. No contact for many 

>> months. Eventually, I posted about it and received many replies that he 

>> has done this before. His modus operandi is usually to go quiet and not 

>> communicate. Which is what he's doing now. He did not show in court, I 

>> received a default judgment by the judge.

>

>> Evans did not appeal and a judgment was issued. I spent the money to have 

>> the judgment filed in Illinois and a lien filed against his house. At 

>> this time he can not purchase or sell, or inherit real property until the 

>> judgment is paid. It is collecting 8% interest at this time.

>

>> If I recall my contract law correctly, selling NWA junk as Zulu Queen 

>> would be 'Misrepresentation' as well as Unjust Enrichment. Selling Zulu 

>> Queen that he didn't know was NWA junk is simply 'Mutual 

>> Misunderstanding'. Good luck in proving he had prior knowledge it was NWA 

>> junk.

>

>> This is a small sandbox we play in. Play nice. McCartney Taylor

>

> Dear List,

>

> This is a public warning to Bob Evans to stop using the NWA 1110 and NWA

> 1877 designations and meteoritelab descriptions. I filed a blanket

> complaint claim with ebay and found out that it is considered fraudulent 

> to

> use lab numbers that do not apply to your samples. It is also against the

> law to steal copyrighted descriptions. It took me weeks to explain to ebay

> what is involved with getting numbers assigned to NWA meteorites. I will

> start pulling the trigger soon on this kind of fraud starting with Bob

> Evans. If ebay gets too many complaints the meteorite subsection might be

> reconsidered (eliminated). That is why I am posting this message publicly

> to avoid continued contact with ebay. Here are two of the many fraudulent

> auctions Bob Evans is involved in:

>

>

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2287562058&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

>

>

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2287562068&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

>

> Consider this warning to edit your numbers and descriptions to reflect the

> truth or I will report this fraud to ebay when I return tomorrow. My

> attorney gave me the green light to start pursuing these cases and I will

> exercise my options.

>

> Wishing everybody else the best,

>

> Greetings List,

>

> I could go on and on and post dozens if not more posts on people having 

> trouble with this thief but it would be counterproductive to our 

> discussion here. I feel I have done my part to warn people of this creep 

> and if you don't take the advise of this email and the emails of others 

> who have, had trouble with this criminal then we'll await to see your post 

> on the trouble you are having by thinking this is some kind of a joke. 

> Best wishes to all!

>

> --AL Mitterling

>

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