[meteorite-list] Carancas crater

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Why would anyone consider the Carancas impact a " Pit " ? Never heard of  impact pits on the moon. Heard of impact pits on SA's. 
The crater is " non - meteoritic " That doesnt make any sense.  Are you suggesting that something other that the meteorite created the crater ? Please elaborate on that quote. 
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>

> I did not realize that the website you listed was the

> definitive and final place which determines craters vs

> pits. It seems that some of the top scientists in the

> world think that it is a crater, perhaps you should

> enlighten them.

> Carancas is a crater, and I am not sure:), but I do

> believe that the impact of a meteorite created it,

> thus, I am still confused, but would that not tend to

> suggest that it is meteoritic? Adam, I think

> regardless of whether it is a common chondrite, the

> simple fact that it exists forces science to

> re-calculate its models for impact craters by

> chondrites. So Carancas is extremely important. I

> forsee papers written about Carancas for decades.

> There will be no roof built, the crater is already

> mostly destroyed (as I predicted that it would be,

> thanks to those of us who went there, at least some

> material was preserved).

> Michael Farmer

> 

> --- Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 

> > Hi Mike and List Members,

> > 

> > To me, Carancas produced an "impact pit" which is a

> > form of crater. I will concede the point that it is

> > also a crater by other definitions, just not

> > meteoritic.  The Sikhote Alin event also produced

> > several impact pits that were described as such

> > further constraining the meteoritic definition of an

> > impact crater. 

> > 

> > Here is a great reference site that clearly defines

> > crater sizes of 5-20 meters as "impact pits". 

> > Carancas only produced a 13 meter mud hole squarely

> > defining it as a pit. 

> > 

> > http://www.somerikko.net/old/geo/imp/listinfo.htm

> > 

> > Pretty soon, the Carancas impact pit it will be no

> > more than a depression in the ground with urine,

> > fecal

> > matter and trash in it. Not to forget, a $90,000.00

> > roof will be added on top of a rotted out and the

> > most

> > common type of ordinary chondrite in existence at

> > the

> > bottom. 

> > 

> > All the best,

> > 

> > Adam

> > 

> > 

> 

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