[meteorite-list] Carancas crater

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Michael Farmer wrote:


>Tim, it is somewhere in the 10 kilo range, giv or take

>a kilo. Of the 10 kilos I know of, about 6 kilograms

>was fine dust in baggies. Hans Koser has this

>material, he was trying to sell it at the Tucson show.

>Moritz Karl and I bought the other ~3 kilos he had,

>and most of that is sold now. I have less than 400

>grams of material left for sale. Calr Esparza in

>Tucson got around 1.4 kilo with Bob Haag, I bought all

>of Bob's share from him.

>There is about a kilo in a museum in La Paz, Bolivia.

>So around 12 kilos is my estimate of total material

>recovered.

>Michael Farmer

>--- Tim Heitz <midwest at meteorman.org> wrote:

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>>Has any one ever determined how much of was

>>recovered?

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>>Thanks,

>>Tim

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>>----- Original Message ----- 

>>From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>

>>To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; "Adam" 

>><meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

>>Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:55 PM

>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

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>>>Adam

>>>You told everyone on this list that Carancas was

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>>not a

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>>>crater, you have been proven wrong, I was proven

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>>right

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>>>with the papers in the news this week, I am merely

>>>clarifying that, nothing more.

>>>Now, what problem is it of mine that uneducated

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>>idiots

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>>>pissed in the crater? Does that ruin the event,

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>>make

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>>>it useless, wipe it from the history books? It was

>>>handled fine on my end, things just got bad when

>>>police tried to steal all of our money. What is

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>>your

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>>>advice, should I have gone to the president of

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>>Peru?

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>>>When you are in the crap, you make decisions on

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>>the

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>>>spot, it is not as easy as sitting at your desk

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>>>typing emails. The locals were nice, just poor

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>>people

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>>>who had no idea what was going on, the government

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>>was

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>>>inept and corrupt, and the police took advantage

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>>of

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>>>the situation to try and rob us, then the

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>>proverbial

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>>>crap hit the fan from all sides. Oh well, the

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>>crater

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>>>was studied, a tiny amount of the meteorite was

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>>saved,

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>>>and the rest, as they say, it history.

>>>Michael Farmer

>>>--- Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>>>Mike and List,

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>>>>I conceded the point long ago that the term

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>>crater

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>>>>also applies to the Carancas event.  I also

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>>stated

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>>>>that there are different types of craters and

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>>this

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>>>>falls into the impact pit category as was the

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>>case

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>>>>with the Sikhote Alin event.  Some of the craters

>>>>(impact pits) left by Sikhote Alin were also

>>>>explosive

>>>>embedding pieces of the meteorite in trees and

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>>yet

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>>>>Ninninger, along with dozens of scientists

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>>referred

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>>>>them as impact pits.  I admit the definition is

>>>>somewhat hazy is why I qualified the term with

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>>"To

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>>>>me,"

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>>>>My only problem with the Carancas thing is that

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>>was

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>>>>over-hyped from the beginning with much

>>>>misinformation

>>>>surrounding it. Then, no respect was given to the

>>>>occurrence and a circus soon followed. People

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>>will

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>>>>treat you the way you allow them, the same

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>>applies

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>>>>to

>>>>the Carancas event.  Trash was thrown into the

>>>>impact

>>>>pit, people relieved themselves into it and greed

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>>>>became a problem.  I think if the event was

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>>handled

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>>>>in

>>>>a more professional matter, I would not have a

>>>>problem

>>>>with it. The way it stands, I have zero respect

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>>>>the way it was handled.

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>>>>The last from me on this,

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>>>>Adam

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