[meteorite-list] Carancas crater

[Barry Davis]

It doesn't matter to me what it is called. I'm just glad I bought a piece 
from Michael Farmer. Being new to meteorites, this is my first one. I have 
bought a few since, but I'm proud to have a Carancas for my first. ( you 
know there are a few "firsts" in life that you NEVER FORGET.)
Thanks Michael
Barry Davis
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
To: "Tim Heitz" <midwest at meteorman.org>; "Meteorite List" 
<Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater



> Tim, it is somewhere in the 10 kilo range, giv or take

> a kilo. Of the 10 kilos I know of, about 6 kilograms

> was fine dust in baggies. Hans Koser has this

> material, he was trying to sell it at the Tucson show.

> Moritz Karl and I bought the other ~3 kilos he had,

> and most of that is sold now. I have less than 400

> grams of material left for sale. Calr Esparza in

> Tucson got around 1.4 kilo with Bob Haag, I bought all

> of Bob's share from him.

> There is about a kilo in a museum in La Paz, Bolivia.

> So around 12 kilos is my estimate of total material

> recovered.

> Michael Farmer

> --- Tim Heitz <midwest at meteorman.org> wrote:

>

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>> Has any one ever determined how much of was

>> recovered?

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Tim

>>

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>>

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----- 

>> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>

>> To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; "Adam"

>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:55 PM

>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

>>

>>

>> > Adam

>> > You told everyone on this list that Carancas was

>> not a

>> > crater, you have been proven wrong, I was proven

>> right

>> > with the papers in the news this week, I am merely

>> > clarifying that, nothing more.

>> > Now, what problem is it of mine that uneducated

>> idiots

>> > pissed in the crater? Does that ruin the event,

>> make

>> > it useless, wipe it from the history books? It was

>> > handled fine on my end, things just got bad when

>> > police tried to steal all of our money. What is

>> your

>> > advice, should I have gone to the president of

>> Peru?

>> > When you are in the crap, you make decisions on

>> the

>> > spot, it is not as easy as sitting at your desk

>> and

>> > typing emails. The locals were nice, just poor

>> people

>> > who had no idea what was going on, the government

>> was

>> > inept and corrupt, and the police took advantage

>> of

>> > the situation to try and rob us, then the

>> proverbial

>> > crap hit the fan from all sides. Oh well, the

>> crater

>> > was studied, a tiny amount of the meteorite was

>> saved,

>> > and the rest, as they say, it history.

>> > Michael Farmer

>> > --- Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:

>> >

>> >> Mike and List,

>> >>

>> >> I conceded the point long ago that the term

>> crater

>> >> also applies to the Carancas event.  I also

>> stated

>> >> that there are different types of craters and

>> this

>> >> one

>> >> falls into the impact pit category as was the

>> case

>> >> with the Sikhote Alin event.  Some of the craters

>> >> (impact pits) left by Sikhote Alin were also

>> >> explosive

>> >> embedding pieces of the meteorite in trees and

>> yet

>> >> Ninninger, along with dozens of scientists

>> referred

>> >> to

>> >> them as impact pits.  I admit the definition is

>> >> somewhat hazy is why I qualified the term with

>> "To

>> >> me,"

>> >>

>> >> My only problem with the Carancas thing is that

>> was

>> >> over-hyped from the beginning with much

>> >> misinformation

>> >> surrounding it. Then, no respect was given to the

>> >> occurrence and a circus soon followed. People

>> will

>> >> treat you the way you allow them, the same

>> applies

>> >> to

>> >> the Carancas event.  Trash was thrown into the

>> >> impact

>> >> pit, people relieved themselves into it and greed

>> >> soon

>> >> became a problem.  I think if the event was

>> handled

>> >> in

>> >> a more professional matter, I would not have a

>> >> problem

>> >> with it. The way it stands, I have zero respect

>> for

>> >> the way it was handled.

>> >>

>> >> The last from me on this,

>> >>

>> >> Adam

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

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