[meteorite-list] Speck Issues - Reply to this subject

[Frank Cressy]

Hello all,

This is a resend of a previous post.  I meant to
change the subject line but in my fever muddled state
I forgot.  Sorry about that.  Please reply to this
post to avoid confusion.

Frank

--- Frank Cressy <fcressy at prodigy.net> wrote:


> Hi Michael and all,

> 

> The Barboton you mentioned was a 9mg speck and went

> for $46.67.  Many people shopping ebay don't blink

> until the price reaches a $100 or more. So

> price/gram

> on a speck means nothing.  The problem I see is that

> this and other hammer specks and rare and historical

> specks can never be verified.  Barbotan is an H5

> veined chondrite...see any veining?  On the above

> example, Peter M was the seller and I have 100%

> confidence that this was indeed Barbotan,  Now what

> if

> the winner "1randombid" with a "private" feedback

> profile finds a larger Barbotan speck next week, and

> decides to sell this one, maybe even using Peter's

> original box and card.  Still 100% sure of it??? 

> Unless you know the complete collection history of

> the

> piece with everyone involved, can a buyer have even

> a

> shred of confidence that the speck is what it is

> described to be.  At least the Bessey Specks of 10

> years ago were either Nakhla and Zagami, and with a

> good lens or microscope one could be quite certain

> as

> to what he/she had.  A little more difficult with an

> H5 or an L6 to say the least.

> 

> Michael, I also have 100% confidence that your

> material is what you say it is, but then I also

> wouldn't bet the farm on it.  I also know if

> something

> were to be found in error, you'd stand behind it as

> would most dealers.  However, with the prices

> raising

> crazily it's might be too tempting for someone to

> sell

> a bogus speck maybe just once in a while.  We like

> to

> think that the people on the list are above all

> those

> things, but wasn't "the one who still remains

> nameless" who got caught with a rock in his shoe,

> once

> a member of the list.

> 

> For you dealers the rising prices are great, but

> hopefully is isn't a house of cards and won't end up

> like the housing and credit debaucle, built,

> founded,

> fueled, and distroyed by Greed.  The speck value is

> only based on trust, and should a couple bad apples

> ever show up, I think it could collapse.

> 

> Just my ramblings on another fun filled day with the

> flu,  Hope you didn't take this personally, just my

> views on specks.  Also seeing historical specimens

> broken into smaller and smaller pieces upsets me

> too,

> but that's another story.

> 

> All the best,

> Frank

> 

> --- Michael L Blood <mlblood at cox.net> wrote:

> 

> > I noted with interest a small piece of Barbotan on

> > eBay. I left a reasonable

> > Bid on it and just checked it out.....

> >         It had sold for over $5,000.00 per gram.

> >         I have what I believe are the last 3

> > specimens available in the

> > world on my hammer site (if anyone knows where I

> can

> > get more, please

> > Contact me off list - reward!)

> >         I will hold this price until the first one

> > sells. To see these

> > extremely rare specimens click on the photos at

> the

> > following site:

> > 

> > http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Hammers.html

> > 

> > They are easy to find - Barbotan is the oldest

> > Hammer listed (1790)

> >         Best wishes, Michael

> > PS: Under 1999 you can find I have 3 last Kobe

> > (Japanese hammer)

> > Specimens left, as well as numerous other recent

> > additions to the page.

> > 

> > 

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