[meteorite-list] March 4 RSPOD Oriented (sic) 32kg stone

[JKGwilliam]

Svend makes the exact point I was going to make.  The picture clearly 
shows that this large stone is probable a meteorite, but how can 
anyone determine whether or not it is oriented by looking at one low 
res picture.

I for one commend Dave for the efforts he's making to share 
meteorites with young inquiring minds.

Best,

John

At 06:45 AM 3/4/2008, info at niger-meteorite-recon.de wrote:

>Elton, others,

>

>in this case, and regarding the thoroughly curated and painstakingly 

>documented collection Dave keeps, I would rather trust the owner's 

>judgement instead of your photo interpretation skills - however 

>visionary they may be.

>

>Besides there is currently no need to defend Dave as you have not 

>provided a single point why the stone pictured should not be 

>oriented. You may consider this in your concept of science.

>

>just my two cents

>

>Svend

>

>

>

>

>--- Mr EMan <mstreman53 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> > Ok would someone that believes this is an accurate

> > caption please

> > defend it.

> >

> >  "Sean Northover, a student at Kennesaw Mountain

> > High School,

> > confirming the weight of a fresh, ">>>ORIENTED<<<"

> > 32.6 kg

> > chondrite"???

> > <http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_4_2008.html>

> > This is too early

> > for April 1st.

> >

> > To let bad and really bad psuedoscience take over

> > all we had to do was

> > continue being silent on dubious claims. Now every

> > other meteorite we

> > see is "oriented".  We know this is the truth

> > because any new commer,

> > meteorite owner, is magically, over night, an

> > "expert" at identifying

> > and describing meteorite surface features.

> >

> > If anyone wishes to declare a meteorite "oriented"--

> > anyone may do so

> > without a pittance of proof and no one on this list

> > will ever object.

> > Because we refuse to define "oriented".

> >

> > Ergo, I have a perfect sphere meteorite that fell

> > from my table to the

> > floor and under the imagination that makes EVERY

> > single meteorite

> > "oriented" I can proclaim that my sphere is oriented

> > having traveled

> > through the atmosphere.  Given the wide latitude

> > used in claiming

> > orientation no one can disprove that I am not

> > correct.

> >

> > (OH YEAH  and it has perfect fusion crust because

> > its drop was extended

> > for several seconds over a candle flame before

> > reaching the floor).

> >

> > I can proclaim it as a fully oriented, fully fusion

> > crusted,

> > sphere-shaped "fall" and under the unfettered

> > latitude we allow amongst

> > meteorite collectors no one can prove my description

> > wrong.

> >

> > So is this a hobby or a study of science?

> >

> > Continually Baffled,

> > Elton

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