[meteorite-list] March 4 RSPOD Oriented (sic) 32kg stone

[Walter Branch]

Dave has done a heck of a lot toward educating others, particularly kids,
about meteorites.

Dave and I and a few others are members of the Meteorite Association
of Georgia, and I am very proud and pleased to be in the same association as 
Dave.

-Walter Branch
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JKGwilliam" <h3chondrite at cox.net>
To: <info at niger-meteorite-recon.de>; <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] March 4 RSPOD Oriented (sic) 32kg stone



> Svend makes the exact point I was going to make.  The picture clearly 

> shows that this large stone is probable a meteorite, but how can anyone 

> determine whether or not it is oriented by looking at one low res picture.

>

> I for one commend Dave for the efforts he's making to share meteorites 

> with young inquiring minds.

>

> Best,

>

> John

>

> At 06:45 AM 3/4/2008, info at niger-meteorite-recon.de wrote:

>>Elton, others,

>>

>>in this case, and regarding the thoroughly curated and painstakingly 

>>documented collection Dave keeps, I would rather trust the owner's 

>>judgement instead of your photo interpretation skills - however visionary 

>>they may be.

>>

>>Besides there is currently no need to defend Dave as you have not provided 

>>a single point why the stone pictured should not be oriented. You may 

>>consider this in your concept of science.

>>

>>just my two cents

>>

>>Svend

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>--- Mr EMan <mstreman53 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>>

>> > Ok would someone that believes this is an accurate

>> > caption please

>> > defend it.

>> >

>> >  "Sean Northover, a student at Kennesaw Mountain

>> > High School,

>> > confirming the weight of a fresh, ">>>ORIENTED<<<"

>> > 32.6 kg

>> > chondrite"???

>> > <http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_4_2008.html>

>> > This is too early

>> > for April 1st.

>> >

>> > To let bad and really bad psuedoscience take over

>> > all we had to do was

>> > continue being silent on dubious claims. Now every

>> > other meteorite we

>> > see is "oriented".  We know this is the truth

>> > because any new commer,

>> > meteorite owner, is magically, over night, an

>> > "expert" at identifying

>> > and describing meteorite surface features.

>> >

>> > If anyone wishes to declare a meteorite "oriented"--

>> > anyone may do so

>> > without a pittance of proof and no one on this list

>> > will ever object.

>> > Because we refuse to define "oriented".

>> >

>> > Ergo, I have a perfect sphere meteorite that fell

>> > from my table to the

>> > floor and under the imagination that makes EVERY

>> > single meteorite

>> > "oriented" I can proclaim that my sphere is oriented

>> > having traveled

>> > through the atmosphere.  Given the wide latitude

>> > used in claiming

>> > orientation no one can disprove that I am not

>> > correct.

>> >

>> > (OH YEAH  and it has perfect fusion crust because

>> > its drop was extended

>> > for several seconds over a candle flame before

>> > reaching the floor).

>> >

>> > I can proclaim it as a fully oriented, fully fusion

>> > crusted,

>> > sphere-shaped "fall" and under the unfettered

>> > latitude we allow amongst

>> > meteorite collectors no one can prove my description

>> > wrong.

>> >

>> > So is this a hobby or a study of science?

>> >

>> > Continually Baffled,

>> > Elton

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