[meteorite-list] Space junk - marine life - shame on NASA

[John.L.Cabassi]

G'Day Greg and all
I thought I read that the tank was not stable enough to stand a trip back in 
the shuttle and could pose a risk to the shuttle and crew.

Cheers Johnno
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Catterton" <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
To: "Del Waterbury" <paseclipse at yahoo.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Space junk - marine life - shame on NASA



> why could they not have returned it to earth on a shuttle that was going 

> to be returning to earth anyway?

> No extra cost involved there.

>

> --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Del Waterbury <paseclipse at yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>> From: Del Waterbury <paseclipse at yahoo.com>

>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Space junk - marine life - shame on NASA

>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com, star_wars_collector at yahoo.com

>> Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 2:14 PM

>> I don't think the taxpayers would be to happy to hear

>> NASA spent millions of dollars to remove a piece of space

>> junk. Letting it enter back into the atmoshphere is the safe

>> and cheapest way to go. Of course we could just let it stay

>> up there and add to the many pieces of space junk already

>> floating around putting astronauts lives in danger.

>>

>> Del

>>

>>

>> --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Greg Catterton

>> <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com> wrote:

>>

>> > From: Greg Catterton

>> <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>

>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Space junk - marine life

>> - shame on NASA

>> > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

>> > Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:06 AM

>> > If that is the case, why was such a big deal made

>> about not

>> > going anywhere near the debris if it had impacted on

>> land

>> > becouse of toxic hazards?

>> >

>> > I agree about the scuttled destroyer, but at the same

>> time,

>> > I dont think that is right to do also.

>> >

>> > Perhaps the toxic nature that has been reported has

>> mislead

>> > me to think that it was more of a big deal then it is,

>> but

>> > it is troubling to think that this was the best thing

>> they

>> > could come up with.

>> > Surely it could have been returned to earth on a

>> shuttle

>> > and disposed of properly.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Chris Peterson

>> > <clp at alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:

>> >

>> > > From: Chris Peterson

>> <clp at alumni.caltech.edu>

>> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Space junk - marine

>> life

>> > - shame on NASA

>> > > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

>> > > Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 1:57 PM

>> > > Hi Greg-

>> > >

>> > > It is inaccurate to say that this object

>> > "splashed

>> > > down". In fact, much of

>> > > it burned away during reentry, leaving much

>> smaller

>> > debris.

>> > > It would seem

>> > > extremely unlikely that any ammonia was left by

>> the

>> > time

>> > > pieces hit the

>> > > water. So there was only a bit of scrap metal,

>> > probably

>> > > nothing of

>> > > significant toxicity. The impact of this debris

>> on the

>> > > ocean ecology is

>> > > likely to be near zero.

>> > >

>> > > Returning junk from low earth orbit is not

>> currently

>> > > practical in most

>> > > cases. The only option is to allow it to reenter

>> and

>> > > (mostly) burn up. I

>> > > suspect that the sum total of all the debris from

>> > space

>> > > that has reached the

>> > > ground doesn't add up to one scuttled

>> destroyer

>> > (with

>> > > far more toxics in the

>> > > latter case as well). And ships are scuttled all

>> the

>> > time,

>> > > along with

>> > > thousands every year that are simply lost at sea.

>> > >

>> > > Chris

>> > >

>> > > *****************************************

>> > > Chris L Peterson

>> > > Cloudbait Observatory

>> > > http://www.cloudbait.com

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > ----- Original Message ----- 

>> > > From: "Greg Catterton"

>> > > <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>

>> > > To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

>> > > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:41 AM

>> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Space junk - marine

>> life -

>> > shame

>> > > on NASA

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > > ""The junk was a tank full of

>> ammonia

>> > > coolant on the international space

>> > > > station that was no longer needed. Astronaut

>> > Clayton

>> > > Anderson threw it

>> > > > overboard during a spacewalk in July 2007.

>> > > >

>> > > > Space station program manager Mike

>> Suffredini

>> > said

>> > > Monday that the debris

>> > > > splashed down somewhere between Australia

>> and New

>> > > Zealand Sunday night""

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > Am I alone in the idea that Nasa should be

>> held

>> > > criminaly liable for the

>> > > > polution of our waters?

>> > > > If an ordinary person was to dump toxic

>> material

>> > into

>> > > the ocean, surely we

>> > > > would be in alot of trouble... just becouse

>> they

>> > are

>> > > Nasa does not make

>> > > > them above the law. Ammonia is highly toxic

>> to

>> > marine

>> > > life!

>> > > > It is my opinion that this was an outright

>> > disrespect

>> > > to the enviorment

>> > > > and a potential hazard to the marine life in

>> the

>> > area

>> > > of impact.

>> > > > I am very upset about this and feel Nasa was

>> > totally

>> > > wrong for the actions

>> > > > they have done.

>> > > > This could have been handled in a much

>> better

>> > fashion,

>> > > and I for one would

>> > > > like to see Nasa held accountable for this.

>> > > > I am really upset about this whole

>> situtation.

>> > > > surely if it had fallen on someones propery

>> NASA

>> > would

>> > > be in alot of

>> > > > trouble...

>> > > > Shame on you NASA. Shame on you Clayton

>> Anderson.

>> > >

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