[meteorite-list] Neither Carbonado Nor Meteorite

Fries, Marc D marc.d.fries at jpl.nasa.gov
Thu Apr 9 12:14:20 EDT 2009


A carbonado with fusion crust? My skepticism meter is pegged. If true it
would be of extraordinary scientific interest, but the problem is that
diamond doesn¹t melt. It evaporates. Silicates are content to form what is
basically a liquid silicon oxide, but carbon oxides (CO, CO2) are gases, not
liquids. Diamond doesn¹t flow ­ it goes poof.

I looked at those pictures, and there are little spallation flakes on one
side that remind me an awful lot of a carbonate rock.

Caveat emptor.

Cheers,
MDF


On 4/9/09 8:32 AM, "Steve Schoner" <schoner at mybluelight.com> wrote:


> I can assure you and everyone that this is a real carbonado diamond. I have

> dealt this this ebay diamond distributor before and his items are exactly what

> he claims them to be.

>

> They are diamonds.

>

> I bought a nice one from this dealer some time ago. It is a specimen at 21

> carets and he had another which I pulled the bit at which was an extremely

> rare round one with fusion crust on the exterior.

>

> Yes, what looked like fusion crust ! With flow lines !

>

> I wish I had the $1,250 that he asked. He held it for a month or so for me,

> but I could not come up with the money due to medical bills. He re-listed it

> at $3,500. It sold. :-( to my loss, and his gain :-) And to the person

> that bought it ;->

>

> There are articles out now that deal with the possibility that these unique

> diamonds are the products of an asteroid impact 2.9 billion years ago right at

> the points in Africa and South America where the two land masses were joined

> 2.9 billion years ago. These black diamonds are found no where else.

>

> Dr. Haggarty has some articles on this:

>

> http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/pubaf/pr/PR_display.asp?prID=07-X2

>

> Research is continuing. But the story Dr. Haggarty has revealed is a very

> interesting one.

>

> So the possibility of this being meteoric is up in the air, and the certainty

> that this is in fact a diamond is real.

>

> A carbonado of this size is extremely rare. I think the largest ever found

> is over 1 kg.

>

> This carbonado must be the second largest, and if so the price asked is in the

> right ball park.

>

> Steve Schoner

> IMCA #4470

>

>

>

> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:59:57 -0400

> From: "JoshuaTreeMuseum" <joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com>

> Subject: [meteorite-list] Neither Carbonado Nor Meteorite

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> Yet another meteorwrong on eBay. I'm pretty sure it's not a diamond either.

> Carbonados are black for one thing.....A raw meteorite as opposed to a

> cooked one?

>

> http://cgi.ebay.com/731CT-1-RAW-METEORITE-NATURAL-UNCUT-ROUGH-DIAMONDS_W0QQite

> mZ3003056869

> 88QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item300305686988&_trksid=p3286.c0

> .m14&_trkpar

> ms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1309%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C29

> 4%3A50

>

> Phil Whitmer

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