[meteorite-list] Question on Toluca Sample that I cameacrossonebay

[Francisco Ocaña]

Don´t think so! hehe. "Cer*n*uda" is a common surname:    
http://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Especial%3ABuscar&search=cernuda&fulltext=Buscar

And no idea about who "Ceruda" is.

Best,

Paco Ocaña


Martin Altmann escribió:

> Maybe Olalla Cernuda ?

>

> http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2007/06/27/ciencia/1182931659.html

>  

> http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2005/11/29/ciencia/1133258125.html

>

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>

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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com

> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Mark

> Grossman

> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. August 2009 03:51

> An: Jason Utas; Meteorite-list

> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Toluca Sample that I

> cameacrossonebay

>

> Hi Jason,

>

> No, I decided not to bid after all.  When it was 99 cents, that was on 

> thing.  But if my memory serves me correctly, last time I checked it was 

> about $22.

>

> But has anyone heard of a Spanish collector named "Ceruda"?  Sounds like the

>

> beginning of some suspense movie!

>

> Mark Grossman

>

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "Jason Utas" <meteoritekid at gmail.com>

> To: "Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:35 PM

> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Toluca Sample that I came 

> acrossonebay

>

>

> Hello Mark,

> I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the fellow already knew - I've

> sent such messages before, only to meet a stone wall of silence, or a

> vehement denial of the facts from a mineral dealer who knows less than

> they think they do about rocks from space. That said, it could well

> be an honest mistake. There's no telling.

> It's worth a shot I suppose, but if I'm not mistaken, the auction

> closes in about a minute, so it's a bit late for that.

> Another one bites the dust...

> Regards,

> Jason

>

> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Mark Grossman<markig at westnet.com> wrote:

>   

>> Hi Jason,

>>

>> Thanks for the info. Looks like you're right.

>>

>> I checked "Rocks from Space", and color plate IV has a picture of a Toluca

>> specimen with a closeup of ferric hydroxide and hydrochloric acid exuding

>> from between the Widmanstatten plates.

>>

>> And it looks like some of those brown "crossed lines" on the ebay sample.

>>

>> So what should I do - inform the ebay seller that he has a sick patient on

>> his hands that he is trying to unload? :)

>>

>> Thanks again.

>>

>> Mark Grossman

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Utas" <meteoritekid at gmail.com>

>> To: "Kashuba" <mary.kashuba at verizon.net>; "Meteorite-list"

>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:04 PM

>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Toluca Sample that I came 

>> acrosson

>> ebay

>>

>>

>> Hello Mark, All,

>> Those squiggly lines are what Nininger coined "lawrencite," a

>> corrosive "disease" that occurs primarily in the presence of

>> terrestrial salts. While the term is fairly well-recognized, it

>> generally applies to meteorites which experience accelerated oxidation

>> even years after having been found, having spent long periods of time

>> in unfavorable climates.

>> The slice does indeed look like Toluca, and it might be a fine

>> specimen if refinished, but good luck with preserving it - maybe Bill

>> Mason might have a word on this.

>> That said, there are no troilite inclusions visible in the slice.

>> Regards,

>> Jason

>>

>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Kashuba<mary.kashuba at verizon.net> wrote:

>>     

>>> Mark, List,

>>>

>>> It looks to me like an etched iron meteorite slice that has been clear

>>> coated and is rusting. Corrosion will boil up and worm its way around

>>> under

>>> coatings. Some Toluca have prominent troilite. None is obvious in this

>>> slice but it still could very well be a Toluca. Maybe someone read a

>>> description somewhere that mentioned troilite, saw the Widmanstätten

>>> pattern

>>> and figured that is what the "crossed lines" are. You might pick it up

>>> cheap, refinish it and pray.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>>

>>> - John

>>>

>>> John Kashuba

>>> Ontario, California

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com

>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mark

>>> Grossman

>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:37 PM

>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Question on Toluca Sample that I came across on

>>> ebay

>>>

>>> Would be interested on any comments on this Toluca sample that I came

>>> across

>>>

>>> on ebay. According to the seller, the sample was purchased from a

>>> collector

>>>

>>> in Spain named "Ceruda" and the troilite is "the crossed lines on the

>>> specimen."

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>       

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180387460024&ssPageName=S

>   

>>> TRK:MEWAX:IT

>>>

>>> Thanks.

>>>

>>> Mark Grossman

>>>

>>>

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