[meteorite-list] Meteorite Finding Dog of Bethlehem

Michael Blood mlblood at cox.net
Tue Feb 24 07:04:47 EST 2009


Anyone know of anyone selling any Bthlehem, NY?
Cotact off list please - thanks, Michael


On 2/24/09 12:15 AM, "Jeff Kuyken" <info at meteorites.com.au> wrote:


> To Rob? I think that's a pretty fitting home for the West Dog Meteortite to

>

go live with the Nakhla Dog! ;-)

Cheers,

Jeff


----- Original Message

> -----

From: "Ruben Garcia" <meteoritemall at yahoo.com>
To: "Frank Cressy"

> <fcressy at prodigy.net>;

<Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; "Walter Branch"

>

<waltbranch at bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject:

> Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Finding Dog in West Texas




> Hi all.

> I'm

> heading home in the morning with a bag full of meteorites. Ok, it's a

> small

> bag but I'm happy. I got 6 complete individuals and a fractured

> specimen.

> I interviewed some of the locals as well as hunters and should

> have at

> least a couple of good stories/videos!

>

> I'm not sure (nor is anyone else)

> why the dog decided to pick up the

> meteorite. However, the owners gladly

> wrote out a nice little story about

> how it happened and for everyone dying

> to know, the meteorite found by the

> dog was purchased by my friend Rob

> Wessel.

>

>

>

> Ruben Garcia

> Phoenix, Arizona

> Website:

> http://www.Mr-Meteorite.Net

> Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/

>

> Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfright&p=v

>

>

> ---

> On Sat, 2/21/09, Walter Branch <waltbranch at bellsouth.net> wrote:

>

>> From:

> Walter Branch <waltbranch at bellsouth.net>

>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]

> Meteorite Finding Dog in West Texas

>> To: "Frank Cressy"

> <fcressy at prodigy.net>,

>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

>> Date:

> Saturday, February 21, 2009, 5:53 PM

>> Hi Frank,

>>

>> Funny story. Thanks

> for sharing.

>>

>> BTW, I just re-read your article on in Meteorite on

>>

> Braunau. Interesting detective work.

>>

>> -Walter

>>

>> ----- Original

> Message ----- From: "Frank Cressy"

>> <fcressy at prodigy.net>

>> To:

> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>;

>> <mexicodoug at aim.com>;

> <meteorobs at meteorobs.org>;

>> <ensoramanda at ntlworld.com>;

>>

> <meteoritemall at yahoo.com>

>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:42 PM

>>

> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Finding Dog in West

>> Texas

>>

>>

>>

> > Hi Rubin and all,

>> >

>> > One hundred and fifty years ago, a stone fell

> in

>> Bethlehem, New York on August 11 that also involved a

>> meteorite

> finding dog, apparently not as well trained as the

>> West, Texas dog. C.U.

> Shepard wrote:

>> >

>> > ³Mr. Vanderpool was at work near his house,

> and

>> heard the explosion in common with other members of his

>> family.

> About two minutes after, as it appeared to him, a

>> stone, coming in an

> oblique course, struck the side

>> > of a wagon house, glanced off, hit a log

> upon the

>> ground, bounded again, and rolled into the grass. A dog

>> lying

> in the doorway of the wagon house sprang up, darted

>> out and seized it, but

> dropped it immediately, probably on

>> account of its warmth and sulphurous

> small.²

>> >

>> > And of course there's the story about the dog that

>> found

> the Lost City meteorite in January, 1970. Must have

>> been too heavy to

> carry so he just "marked it",

>> probably so he could find it again. ;-)

>>

> >

>> > Cheers,

>> >

>> > Frank

>> >

>> >

>> > --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Ruben

> Garcia

>> <meteoritemall at yahoo.com> wrote:

>> >

>> > From: Ruben Garcia

> <meteoritemall at yahoo.com>

>> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Finding Dog

> in

>> West Texas

>> > To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com,

>>

> mexicodoug at aim.com, meteorobs at meteorobs.org,

>> ensoramanda at ntlworld.com

>> >

> Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 5:08 PM

>> >

>> > There is indeed a

> meteorite finding dog!

>> >

>> > Here's the story. On Friday Sonny, Steve

> Arnold

>> and I drove into the strewn

>> > field bright and early and

> immediately started

>> knocking on doors to try to gain

>> > permission to

> hunt. Upon walking up to a particular

>> house Sonny spotted a

>> > meteorite

> on the porch (about 70-90 grams) he picked

>> it up, and laid it back

>> >

> down. "Ruben, did you see that fully crusted

>> meteorite on the porch?"

>> >

> He Said. I couldn't believe it. He was right!

>> Right there on the porch

> but

>> > no one was home...what to do? Since Sonny assured me

>> that he

> wasn't going to

>> > buy meteorites when he could find them I decided to

>>

> track down the owner and try

>> > to buy the specimen.

>> >

>> > I got the

> owners work phone number from a neighbor and

>> called. After

>> > introducing

> myself and explaining what I was in town

>> for, I told the owner that

>> >

> there was a meteorite on their porch. "What, you

>> mean that black rock

> that

>> > the dog brought up and dropped on the porch?"

>> "Yes, that one"

> I

>> > said.

>> >

>> > Needless to say, I drove down and did a nice video

>>

> interview with the owner

>> > holding the space rock and recalling the

> tale.

>> >

>> >

>> > Ruben Garcia

>> > Phoenix, Arizona

>> > Website:

> http://www.Mr-Meteorite.Net

>> > Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/

>> >

> Videos:

>> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfright&p=v

>> >

>>

> >

>> > --- On Sat, 2/21/09, ensoramanda at ntlworld.com

>>

> <ensoramanda at ntlworld.com>

>> > wrote:

>> >

>> >> From:

> ensoramanda at ntlworld.com

>> <ensoramanda at ntlworld.com>

>> >> Subject: Re:

> [meteorite-list] West, Texas

>> meteorite finds

>> >> To:

> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com,

>> mexicodoug at aim.com,

>> >

> meteorobs at meteorobs.org

>> >> Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 4:18 AM

>> >>

> Quick...make an offer for the dog!

>> >>

>> >> Thanks for the interesting

> update/report.

>> >>

>> >> Graham Ensor UK

>> >>

>> >> ---- mexicodoug at aim.com

> wrote:

>> >> > Hello from Sunny Texas, under clear and

>> starry-eyed

>> >>

> skies at the moment,

>> >> >

>> >> > A few stones were found right at the time

> of

>> the fall,

>> >> however, they

>> >> > were not definitively identified

> as

>> meteorites -

>> >> though that was the

>> >> > suspicion and they were

> saved.

>> >> >

>> >> > We (Doug Dawn, Dmitry Sadilenko, Sergey

>> Petukov)

> drove

>> >> across the

>> >> > country and estimated the location of the

>>

> strewn field

>> >> within 48 hours

>> >> > of the event. With a bit of

> tenacity,

>> scarcely four

>> >> hours after the

>> >> > second day, thanks to

> the help of some

>> Texas-sized

>> >> hospitality, we

>> >> > arrived in the

> strewn field and found our

>> first couple

>> >> of stones and I

>> >> > had

> the distinct pleasure of shaking the

>> finders hand

>> >> and removing any

>>

> >> > lingering doubts in his mind that he had

>> meteorites

>> >> fresh from

> Heaven's

>> >> > farm.

>> >> >

>> >> > After the initial success, my good

> friend and

>> >> asteroidhunter, Rob

>> >> > Matson of Los Angeles, joined up

> with the

>> team. We

>> >> have found some

>> >> > stones, but more are being

> found by others,

>> and we

>> >> really expect larger

>> >> > masses to be

> found, though hard work in the

>> field

>> >> definitely gets you

>> >> >

> wondering if just because such a meteoritical

>> >> spectacle drops one

>> >>

> > stone, should it drop the thousands we keep

>> expecting

>> >> to see? The

> TKW

>> >> > is rapidly evolving, but the area is being

>> hit quite

>> >> hard

> by hunters

>> >> > already. This doesn't seem to be a dense

>> fall, and

>> >>

> some areas are very

>> >> > easy to search, though bramble in other areas

>>

> >> effectively keeps those

>> >> > off limits. All land is private and most

>>

> families keep

>> >> their gun

>> >> > collections well oiled. In our case,

> the

>> big-hearts of

>> >> the landowners

>> >> > have humbled easily as much

> as the witness

>> reports of

>> >> the bolide's

>> >> > fragmenting itself.

> This is at odds with some

>> other

>> >> reports, only

>> >> > because

> residents of the area treasure their

>> privacy

>> >> and were

>> >> >

> completely overwhelmed by the wave of

>> treasure hunters

>> >> that

> descended.

>> >> > We almost lost our permission to hunt when

>> they

>> >>

> believed that we were

>> >> > somehow responsible for several meteorite

>>

> hunters

>> >> showing up with a

>> >> > news crews. Besides being quite busy,

> I

>> promised to

>> >> respect the

>> >> > anonymity of our hosts as a

> condition of our

>> search,

>> >> and this evening

>> >> > we reaped the

> benefits of a delicious

>> home-cooked

>> >> dinner prepared by

>> >> > the

> caring hands of our hosts at their dinner

>> table.

>> >> There is a great

>>

> >> > Texas steakhouse on I-35 which adds to the

>> flavor for

>> >> anyone

> wanting to

>> >> > experience Texas culture, cowboys and pretty

>> cowgirls

>>

> >> from West, TX.

>> >> >

>> >> > It has been an incredible last few days,

>>

> which started

>> >> by being the

>> >> > first to walk in a virgin strewn

> field,

>> though my

>> >> mother had some

>> >> > problems (she seems better

> now) that have

>> somewhat

>> >> muted what will

>> >> > undoubtedly be some

> of the most memorable

>> moments of

>> >> my life. It is way

>> >> > past

> bedtime and I will post more tomorrow.

>> The

>> >> meteorite itself is

>> >>

> > moderately to highly shocked and has a very

>> bright,

>> >> light, interior

> and

>> >> > veins of troilite and nodules of metal, and

>> the

>> >> majority

> of stones

>> >> > found are fully fusion crusted. More on the

>> >>

> classification on Saturday.

>> >> > We certainly were not in a mass-laden

> portion

>> of the

>> >> strewn field,

>> >> > other hunters please take note;

> more likely

>> just a

>> >> place where a minor

>> >> > fragmentation

> impacted. In any case, we are

>> committed

>> >> to getting the

>> >> >

> science done so everyone else can rest

>> assured that we

>> >> have

> already

>> >> > gladly provided the mass requirements

>> necessary for

>> >>

> this honor.

>> >> >

>> >> > All in all, a very humbling experience for

>>

> many

>> >> reasons. To pick up a

>> >> > piece of a falling star and I

> thought, detect

>> a faint

>> >> sulfurous odor.

>> >> > It seems a dog even

> caught the scent of a

>> meteorite

>> >> and laid it down on

>> >> > the

> owners porch!

>> >> >

>> >> > Best wishes and clear skies

>> >> > Doug

>> >>

> >

>> >> >

>> >> > -----Original Message-----

>> >> > From: Pat Branch

> <pat_branch at yahoo.com>

>> >> > To: drtanuki at yahoo.com; Global Meteor

>>

> Observing Forum

>> >> > <meteorobs at meteorobs.org>

>> >> > Sent: Fri, 20 Feb

> 2009 9:28 am

>> >> > Subject: Re: (meteorobs) West, Texas

>> meteorite

> finds

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > The University of North Texas Astronomers

>>

> have found 4

>> >> so far. I saw a

>> >> > video clip of them. The biggest is

> about 3

>> times the

>> >> others...just

>> >> > about palm sized.

>> >> >

>>

> >> > I think that is 4 for Farmer and 4 for UNT. I

>> have not

>> >> heard of

> other

>> >> > teams finding anything.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > --- In

> meteorobs at yahoogroups.com, drtanuki

>> >> <drtanuki at ...> wrote:

>> >> > >

>>

> >> > > Dear List,

>> >> > > Here are the latest reports from the

>> West,

> Texas

>> >> fall.

>> >> > >

>> >> > >

>>

> http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Best Regards,

> Dirk Ross...Tokyo

>> >> > >

>>

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